The REAL History of St Patrick's Day
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- What if I told you that St. Patrick wasn't Irish, the colour associated with him wasn't green and he wasn't even a saint? And that's not the half of it! ☕️
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OMG OMG NATIVES! Gealic folk
I’m so glad that I found your channel! I’ve decided that I’m going to support your work. Not just because of the wonderful content, either.
This sealed the deal. You provide your sources! Very conscientious of you. Thank you! 👍🏾❤️👍🏾
I can’t do much, but I’ll do what I can!😊
Another great video Clare, thank you. I though I knew enough about our St Patrick's Day tradition, but I was surprised to learn that (a) USA started celebrating St Patrick before us and also (b) it did not start in Dublin until 1931. AND indeed, whomever is calling it St Patty's Day, stop it! 🤣WOW! ❤
The true history of Ireland and the UK is hidden and you did not include any of this history.
My ancestors immigrated to America from Cobh, County Cork during the Hunger. Two of them never survived the journey.
I was born on St. Patrick's Day in Chicago. My personal St. Patrick's Day tradition is to light a candle for my ancestors, have a glass of two of Tully in their honor, and to read up on Irish history. It's a quiet day of appreciation and gratitude.
For me I go to church and have bacon and cabbage
My brother was born on March 17 and the parents named him Patrick.
He is old now and when I wish him "Happy Birthday", he tells me to "Fuck Off".
The Confession of Saint Patrick was a life changing read for me.
That was very interesting and informative. I had no idea about most of what you shared here. Thank you!
I live in Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada where we have a very large Finnish population. They make a big thing about St. Urho's day, which apparently was created just to piss off the Irish. 🤣
In certain communities they play St Anthony's festival and inevitably a comparison to Saint Patrick's Day comes up
I've NEVER done the corned beef and cabbage thing for the holiday tbh. My mom just likes it so she makes it often XD The more I learn about St. Patrick the more I feel validated in saying...the church ruins everything.
My biggest pet peeves as an Irish (and Pagan) person around this time of year are the "snakes were pagans" things - it's really bizarre how St Patrick became this whole thing considering the actually history of it!
I love getting the day off, even better this year with the extra bank holiday :D
I heard about the bank holiday! Wish the US had 4 day weekends!!!
There's still a few snaakes left in Ireland most of them have two legs .
As a pagan I feel the same
well , if ireland was pagan you would definitely get much more holidays.
agreed. it's especially hard to see our pagan beliefs of the FEA Folk celebrated hand-in-hand with this saint who persecuted our Druid ancestors. like.... it's astonishing how uneducated secular society is.
It's a shame that so much of Ireland's myths, legends, and ancient history were lost because of Christianity...now this is not meant to be a slight against Christianity or religion...no I'm just upset that throughout history, cultures who deemed themselves superior showed no respect to anyone else. Everyone should have been left alone and allowed to keep their own customs and traditions alive. DAMN YOU IMPERIALISM!!!!
Actually, the myths, legends, and history were mostly lost because the druids refused to let anyone write them down. The Christians had no prohibition on writing them down, so the only reason they were preserved at all is because of the Christians. But the Christians modified them when they were recording them, so the more authentic versions were lost.
@@ersulhith was just about to comment this.
Thank you so much for this education. As an Irish American, much of this history has been lost in our family. Thank you Clare!☘❤
I've been enlightened thank you. I'm originally from New York and the 1st time that I can remember wearing green for St. Patrick's Day was when I was still in elementary school probably around 1969. New Yorkers take that day seriously but we as a family did not eat Corned Beef and cabbage for which I am grateful. Great video as always!
CHICAGO SHOUT OUT!!! Thanks Clisare!
In all reality, that river stays greenish all year! 🤣💚🤦🏻♀️
I can honestly and proudly say that I have never once had corned beef and cabbage on St. Paddy’s day. Had lots of sausages and cabbage, Irish stew or Colcannon. And thankfully my Grandma would cook her cabbage in a cast iron skillet and it would get this delicious char on it 😋
Interesting life moment for me:
In junior high, one of my (Black American) best friends (Chinese American) and I ate corned beef from a pot on the stove in her kitchen with chopsticks.
Not on any holiday. It was just what was made for dinner that night by her grandmother.
And we were hungry but it wasn’t time for dinner yet.
So what else were we to do?!? We clearly would have died without nourishment right then and there! 😉😆😉
I absolutely loved that moment! Then and now. ❤
Happy St. Patrick's Day, Clisare! You already taught me some of this history in previous videos, but I did learn some new facts (or I forgot them and you reminded me). Thank you
Claire dropping some truth bombs on St Patrick’s Day 🤯 Next you are gonna tell me there is no Easter Bunny 😱 I am in such a state of shock I am going to have to go wear green and drink beer. 🍺☘️🇮🇪
I love the history!!!! Thank you so much for researching these topics and sharing them with us. Happy St Patrick’s Day to you and yours…..
I waited till today to watch ☘️💚 I love when we get storytime with Clare 💚☘️ Really loved watching the parade with you today 💚💚
Yeah the parade was great fun!!☘️☘️☘️
Okay. So. Brilliant video! Love your storytelling and you sharing your research and just being amazing!
I watched the Corned Beef and Cabbage episode of Tasting History with Max Miller right after this video and Tl:dw - apparently one reason that Irish in the US started eating corned beef has to do with people living in neighborhoods with kosher butchers who wouldn't have had pork, but who did have corned beef brisket. History! Who knew? Probably you, but you know. Anyway, this was wonderful and I hope that you are well.
Haha thank you. As a long time religion teacher, it's always so funny to see or hear the latest watered down version or hyped up version of a saint when you teach the historical details. All saints in the early church were "canonized by popularity", for instance. It was quite a while before we systemized and rationalized the whole process.
Saint Patrick was Welsh captured by Irish raiders ,from what I've heard.
Yeah welsh or some lost celtic nationality which is probably very similar
Just found ur channel from ur response to an H3 hater lol, subbed. And this was so interesting! Makes sense that America celebrated first cuz my Irish ancestors missed home lol, much love :)
I'm 2nd generation Irish American, tá Gaeilge agam, and my mother *always* gave us HAM and cabbage on St. Patrick's Day growing up, never corned beef. She would also play traditional Irish music all day long. 🥰 🇮🇪 ☘️
Your ma is a ledge ☘️
@@Clisare She certainly is. 🥰 Thanks! ❤️
@@Clisare Btw, I don't know where in Mayo you're from, but her ma was from Mayo, too - Barroe / An Barr Rua (near Charlestown & the border to Sligo & Roscommon). I haven't been to Ireland yet, but I def want to go & seek out this ity bity village!
Happy Paddy's Day Clisare! Love these history vids, the Halloween one is equally awesome.
G'Day Clisare ,thanks so much for that ,most enjoyable , my family came from Limerick many years ago!
I corrected a Twitter post from Patty to Paddy today in your honor.... because you and the Try channel folks are my favorite Irish people....
As an Irish American who has withstood many corned beef and cabbage St. Paddy's Day celebrations, I am shocked...literally had no idea why I had to eat corned beef until now, lol. But, you cant hate on those who took the pilgrimage and tried to make something out of nothing... I love every bit of my Irish/Scottish roots... And I enjoy watching your videos! Happy St. Paddy's Day to you, Alex + Millie!
I lived in Dublin from 07 to 08 and a lot of this was told to me by coworkers and classmates, haha.
I was also warned not to go downtown for the parade. I did it anyway. Regret. Haha. Grabbed the LUAS home the second the parade was done.
I used to work for a cleaning company called Shamrock Maintenance. Green is my FAVORITE COLOR
Definitely agreed re: we need to celebrate the various pre-Christian traditions in Ireland - the Magdalene laundries were atrocities (and so were their racist imitators in Canada and the USA, residential schools and industrial schools for Indigenous children). Clearly, we don't need the church or Christian belief to be decent people. I'm looking forward to one day when we don't celebrate St. Patrick's Day but instead each part of the country celebrates their own local and traditional deities/systems.
Many of those cultures are dead. Why bother?
Absolutely true. I am Canadian and so ashamed of our government trying not to pay the settlement to the victims and their families. I wrote to my Member of Parliament and told him to tell Ottawa to smarten up and pay up. Respect and tolerance are what the world needs now.
@@aussiegod4269 Many of the cultures are very much alive. Look around you.
St Brigid's day would be nice
@@dianethompson2458 thank you for writing to your MP. Pushing politicians to do better is essential, whether it's about restitution for residential schools or Magdalene laundries.
So, no matter what you say he also became a leprechaun granted some early risers wishes and made the statement 'All the World is Green'.
Italian pagans being convinced to worship Christ: “We’ll only do it if we can keep drinking the blood of the party god!”
Irish pagan polytheist after St Patty explains to them they need to drink the blood of Christ: “So what’s one more god eh?”
Actually, the corned beef comes from NY City's Jewish butchers that were in the "Five Points" and lower parts of Manhattan. The newly arrived Irish had a hard time finding back bacon aka "Irish Bacon" and since most of the Butchers in the area were Jewish , there were no pork products to be had in that part of NYC where the Irish, lived. The beef, which was "corned" aka preserved with salt, it was done to prevent the meat from spoiling. The particular cut was beef brisket. Beef Brisket was a very cheap. fatty, and tough cut of meat that was generally considered to be lower quality and was usually bought by the poorer people. So, in summary, the Irish couldn't get pork and couldn't afford decent cuts of beef, hence the tradition of "Corned Beef and Cabbage" was born. It was necessity more than it ever was, tradition.
Oh if it was the Jews then we all know to avoid it at all costs.
As a proud Pagan I am delighted with this video. I am looking forward to the other ones as well. Thanks for such a balanced and interesting episode.
Thank you. 😊 I'm loving storytime. ❤
Thank you for this! Actual footage of me with shifty eyes looking at my dad cooking corned beef tomorrow
I wear green, make corned beef, cabbage, ambrosia salad and enjoy a day to be silly. Many years ago I might have also drank, but with a toddler, drinking does not play a big part in my life.... lol. Learning the history , it is a wonder it took off. Thank you for the history.
Dear gods, people actually make ambrosia salad?!? After the 1970s era of food abominations?
Eye makeup completely on point. Good times.
So, yeah, I always knew the Corned Beef and Cabbage thing was an American Irish thing and not "Native Irish." I'm not usually a fan of corned beef, but most places make it like a brisket which is MUCH better than any other way that I've had it. Thanks for another fun lesson on the origins of a holiday associated with your nation and its people. Sláinte! ~Be Blessed
The fact that you said Irish used to eat bacon, instead of corned beef, on St Patrick's Day is something I didn't know. My Irish grandmother who immigrated here sometime in the twenties, never told me that. I am half tempted to do that again, making bacon on St Patrick's day. The tiny symbolic corned beef I buy at the store here in the states, is not big enough to feed my family and it's too damn expensive for the little piece of meat that will boil up and Shrink to the size of my shoe. I have seven people to feed on St Patrick's Day. I can't even find a large size corned beef . Bacon almost sounds doable,and I'll skip the cabbage. I'm the only person that eats it anyway😂😂
My husband would be very happy if I made just bacon😂!
Saint patrick was a welsh priest who got captured by Neil of nine hostages and then while in Ireland he converted the locals. I think
I said that in the video… or didn’t I?! 😅😅
@@Clisare lol
Gen X here, we were having Saint Patrick's Day parades well before 1995. Saint Patrick's Day as we know it did indeed exist before 1995.
As an American, I LOVE corned beef and cabbage regardless of St. Paddy's day. That's some tasty grub.
Thank you!!!! I never understood the corned beef and cabbage thing hahahaha
Irish pubs used to be closed on St. Paddy's?!? Talk about the savagery of our ancestors! Enjoy your cottage pie & Guinness... probably a more fitting menu than corned beef & cabbage. All good things to you, Alex and Millie!
Corned beef and cabbage is amazing, I always say it’s an American adapted tradition not actual an Irish tradition I love my Irish heritage and my family is from county cork and Kerry
What did Saint Patrick say as he drove the snakes out of Ireland? "Are yiz all right back there, lads?"
Oh Clare, it's worse than just the corned beef and cabbage in America, the stores here also sell little super-sweet rounds of bread overloaded with raisins and claim it's "Irish soda bread." They also display huge stacks of Guinness - and I don't know what happens to it after the holiday, because hardly anyone here really drinks it!
I don't think Patrick was that bad a lad. Sure, there was paganism before but theres zero evidence he forcefully converted the native Irish. The future churches role in oppression is a big deal though for sure. Also have no interest in claiming my "pagan roots" as there's a huge disconnect between modern and ancient paganism anyways. Nice video.
St Patrick was believed to been born in South wales in a village in the neath valley which is now called banwen.
Growing up in the south, we ate corned beef and cabbage on New Year's Day, not Paddy's day.
St. Patrick was a spirit filled believer who performed many miracles even raising the dead. He chose to love and serve those who enslaved him. It's a truly powerful story and calling from the lord
With peace and love he didn’t raise anyone from the dead, friend
Now that you have completely ruined St. Patrick's day for me, I have to say that it was very informative and depressing. Just kidding! I remember back in the early sixties my mother took me to the St. Patrick's Day parade in Boston where riding in an open car was Robert Kennedy. Love the info and All the best!
The whole calling Pagan's snakes lines up with the way Christianity dehumanized people before waltzing in and saying how the good book was the only way for them to regain that humanity.
Oh ffs. Cry harder.
As a lover of Celtic culture, and as one who survived 3 St Patrick’s Parades in South Boston, I found your video delightful. Slan, Jon
I love stories like this!!
Claire thank you for the education! Green is your color
Cheers ☘️
I'm American and I've never known corned beef and cabbage to be a thing. I've never had that as a meal in my entire life, let alone for St. Patrick's Day. Also, not all Americans take St. Patrick's Day that seriously. I'm from NC and it's not a big deal there. But now I live in Georgia and it's just as big as Valentine's Day. Actually, I think St. Patrick's Day might be bigger than Valentine's Day in Georgia!
Just found your channel. Very informative video. As an American with Scottish Irish and English ancestry I found this very informative. Love the accent and love the look. I hope to visit the UK one day. Greetings from across the pond.
Corned beef actually became popular because Irish immigrants had Jewish neighbors who sold the stuff.
Well, St Patrick's Day at this point is pretty much a yearly Boston apocalypse... and when you spill the tea here... it's because you tossed the whole crate into the harbor.
This is a great video thank you!
It is important to note that Saint Patrick was British, but not English. The Britons were another Celtic group not very different from the Irish, and had nothing to do with the Angles and Saxons that were starting to invade their island around the time of Saint Patrick. And the Irish people did not become Catholic until several hundred years after Patrick died. The influence of the Roman church was held back until the viking invasions threw Ireland into too much chaos to continue resisting. Early Irish Christianity was different from Catholicism in several significant ways. The Irish people viewed many of the Roman church's teachings as unacceptably barbaric and cruel and had no interest in converting to Catholicism at the time of Saint Patrick. The early Irish Christians were also perfectly happy to live side by side with the traditional Irish pagans and both religions coexisted in a mostly peaceful manner for several hundred years until they were both pushed out by the rise of Catholicism in Ireland (and the Viking invasions). Many of the stories about the early Irish saints were invented, sometimes hundreds of years later, by Abbots and Bishops who were trying to claim that the Saint who founded their monastery or church was more important than they really were. The story of Patrick driving all the snakes or pagans out of Ireland is clearly not true, as the Irish pagans continued to thrive for hundreds of years after he died and there were never any snakes in Ireland.
There are a lot of saints and martyrs in the church who are not canonized. Even the apostles weren't. He was not canonized, same as many early martyrs of the church, because the formal process of canonization was not established until the12th century.
@3:55 as a soldier we paraded the colours and marched them down to the church to be blessed during mass, we'd go every year as kids, then to the parade. I guess it happens less now, then again I probably have a good few years on ya. Living in France now, I managed to find some shamrocks, my kid will have some on her lapel for playschool. Just for the hell of it, showed her how
to make st brigid's crosses also.
I saw the episode of TMNT where they go to Ireland:
SPLINTER: St Patrick drove all the snakes and reptiles out of Ireland.
MICHELANGELO: Bummer.
Wow! - - Here in Las Vegas is the #1 day of Drinking even more than New Yrs & Halloween - St Patrick is at Peace now or better yet Mr Patrick - Green is the color of Gaia - they are In for a Big Awakening - and so it is - Blessings.
Well that was depressing an awesome at the same time..lol...keep up the awesome content clizzair...big hugs still need my weekly Alex vloggs...lol
Many American city police and fire departments now have pipe bands. However they follow the Scots model, not the Irish. So we see bearskin hats, kilts and Scottish bagpipes.
Interesting video. I had heard there were Christians in Ireland before St Patrick (for instance, it appears that Palladius was a bishop serving in Ireland before St Patrick is said to have started his missionary work).
The only thing I'm aware of in your video that could use some more context is that there wasn't an official canionization process early on in Christianity. Even a local bishop could authorize the veneration of a deceased individual as a saint (though I think you're right that laypeople would have venerated Patrick before a bishop even gave permission)
But thanks for the information that's really interesting Even though I've been joking the whole time I enjoy learning about my history
This is fascinating! 🇮🇪
The " snakes " were the original inhabitants of the land. In all African/Aboriginal/Native American cultures the snake is a sign of fertility and rejuvenation positive, in order for catholic church to consildate power on the island.
Good video thank you so very much for explaining Saint Patrick's Day I've never quite gotten the whole history of it and the way you explained it I understand it more again thank you you and your husband have a great day
I can't wait for the video about how Ireland would have turned out without catholic conversion!
Just found ya, and I love ya already.
I have Irish heritage on my mother's side. Much appreciated information!
holy shite I grow up as an American thinking that the Irish have always eaten cornbreef and garbage .
not all American call it Patty just some who don't know the difference between a man and woman's name.
Oh I we never had corned beef and cabbage. Mom came from Mayo and said it was cause they really couldn't get bacon here so corned beef supposedly was close enough LOL. NO thanks! Most St. Patrick's day I will do an Irish breakfast for dinner. Missed out this year but we will have one soon.
St. Patrick was actually Welsh, which, to we Americans, is a distinction without a difference. But corned beef is delicious, albeit anachronistic.
awesome video. very informative.
American here whose folks all came over from Donegal and Leitrim around 1920 - I can actually confirm the corned beef and cabbage thing... hahaha. I was told about that as a kid, my mom did it, said it was because when my great grandparents got here they were a bit too poor to afford most other meats, so corned beef it was, and sort of just became the tradition. I already knew most of what you said here in this video besides him never actually being a saint thing, the rest I believe my mother told me as well as some of it just in my online reading as a youngster.
I already knew all of this and none of it makes the man a fraud
Although Corned beef is a US immigrant tradition, the Irish still have Crepe Tuesday!
Before Ireland started exporting all of its beef, standard practice was to eat corned beef and cabbage on st. Patrick's Day. Bacon and cabbage was what people started eating when beef became too expensive.
So that's a neat little coincidence of history.
Other way around. Americans eat corned beef because it was cheaper than bacon, which is what we ate (and what we still eat) with cabbage.
@@Clisare iirc, both things happened.
So (in Ireland) the transition was from beef to bacon, and then (in the USA, much later) it went *back* to beef.
Iirc, the first one happened because the English aristocracy started exporting almost all Irish beef, leading to an increase in the popularity of swine products in Ireland, due to the inevitable spike in beef prices. However, the cost of beef elsewhere dropped somewhat. So, when Irish immigrants arrived in the New World, they went back to the medieval tradition by sheer Coincidence of economics.
My source is online though, so take it with salt.
In Columbus Ohio from a very Irish family and can confirm.. wearing nothing but green and eating corned beef, cabbage, and potatoes tomorrow 😅💚
“In Patrick's time the island
of Britain was peopled by
Romanized Celts, whom we call
Britons, and, in its northern
reaches, by the un-Romanized
and ferocious Picts, who painted
pictures all over their bodies,
horrifying the Romans, who
called them Picti (Painted
People). Patrick was a
Romanized Celtic Briton--not
an Englishman. The German
Angles, who in Patrick's day
were--with their Germanic
cousins the Saxons and Jutes-
harrying the southern and
eastern coasts of Britain, soon
settled in Britain, pushing the
Romanized Celts into Wales and
Cornwall.”
How The Irish Saved Civilization
The Jewish immigrant butcher shops, there was no pork in shops. So the Irish took what was most convenient and cheaper, which was corned beef. It kind a look like bacon and since it was corned salty and cheap and tasty. So I guess it’s kind of an Irish Jewish thing.
Great video very informative.. never ate corn beef and cabbage love bacon and cabbage..🍀🍀💚💚🍺🍺 Happy Saint Patrick's Day 🍀🍀💚
Jamie Dornan showed how to make a Tayto sandwich on Jimmy Kimmel.
… cool? 😂
St. Augustine! I live a little north of there!!
Respectfully, He also exercised genocide on a people called Twa. An African people who traveled there centuries before the arrival of St. Patrick. Look into this history. It's not hard to find. The word Leprechaun, the clover, snakes, etc all associated with these forgotten people.
It's like you saying his sister was not a saint and her 17 of her children that are Saints
I've been studying the ancient Irish and European stonework for a few years now and even though there were no snakes in Ireland , there was a group of seafaring people, probably from Egypt that worshipped serpents. And they were in Ireland at one time. Not sure when, but they apparently did leave Europe and traveled down to Central and south America. some of them even settled in New England for a while. Snakes were a symbol of paganism, and Patrick was supposedly drove the pagans out of Ireland according to some of the research materials that I have read,
And yes it is true that Patrick was never canonized was because in the early Church there was no formal canonization process.
Happy Paddys Day!🇨🇮🍀☘
So March 25 is basically just another accused to call you mother or grandmother if her name happens to be Patricia.
Growing up I remember having boiled boil dinner with kielbasa, cabbage, potatoes and carrots. Didn't realize corned beef and cabbage was a "Thing to" on Saint Patrick's day for dinner. Until I moved from Virginia to Massachusetts when I was 16. Boiled dinner is ok but personally I'd rather have a good Guinness beef stew. Or a corned beef sandwich with cole slaw made with a mayonnaise, wasabi sauce, rice wine vinegar dressing, a slice of Irish smoked cheddar cheese and on potato bread.
Thank you I never Knew about St Patrick day and not a ST wow
I no idea first Saint Patrick’s Day parade was in Florida.
He's is accepted as a saint by the Church. That's my confirmation name. And him being a Britain is more like saying he was a British Celt/Welshman. Not a "Brit" as one may look at it through the lense of British colonialism.
A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep or taste not the Pierian spring.
Strap the "fook" in. I love it :)
“Shocked and appalled” - LOL
Also, all that, which was great yet not one word about the hat in your hair
Lol
Yeah corned beef and cabbage. When I was a kid I asked why, and I was told that's just what you do. So I didn't think anyone knew why.