They definitely need to offer bare blocks and short block assemblies. There are countless of Fox guys with good heads on tired OE short blocks out there looking for an upgrade.
Too bad Bp won’t sell the block by itself. Probably a fraction of dart. If 500 ish is the limit for the old blocks, I’d say this is probably good for 650-750 all day.
@@angry408w7Blueprint said they won’t sell the block separate? That’s the first thing I did was went on there site to look for the bare block lol. Almost nobody wants that weak cam in there hot rod lol
This is a beautiful engine that block is a work of art. O wish i had the scratch to snap one up and toss it in my 95, i know theres people saying 361? Thats slack but 361hp with a "mild" cam means this thing would eould feel pretty stout on the street and be night and day, stripped down on the dyno gross HP from a factory 5.0HO is closer to 250hp so thats over 100hp more thats significant and with a bigger cam probably could get closer to 400hp. I would think with this engine you would want to either run gt40 or aftermarket intake bigger throttlebody and aftermarket headers the stock HO parts would choke this engine TQ would be killer but that 361hp would be a fantasy.
No mention of using this in a 94-95 mustang . I’m assuming the timing cover would need to be changed over at the least . Anything else that needs to be addressed ?
If they dyno each engine and provide a dyno sheet, does it still need to be 'broken in'? That 4 bolt HD block is much needed! Great package at a great price. I paid over $2K and waited forever to get a Dart SHP block in 2022.
@@chriswise1232 well, without forged pistons, forced induction, too much timing, or too many rpms will make for a bad day. Sure seems like a hell of a lot of money for a slightly improved block and heads with junk everything else.
Yeah I get the mindset that much money and cast pistons??? but This day n age a cast piston and cast cranks isn't the same cast parts from back in the day. Hell people are getting 1000hp from cast rotating assemblys all the time so why would you even want forged pistons unless you're using a power adder? They are trying to sell a rock solid engine that will last for years and years of trouble free operation and using a hypereutectic piston is a no brainier, they are quieter and cause way less cylinder wear than forged, besides it would just end up adding to the cost of the engine. Its a 360hp street engine using forged pistons would be pointless and a bad idea and if you plan on using a power adder this isn't the type of engine you should be looking at even tho I'm sure you could use one within reason. But also down the road if you want to build a fire breather this is one killer foundation having an aftermarket block and heads that could prob flow pretty killer with some porting. That block is beautiful imo and you are way ahead of the game with it over the factory block thats definitely has a limit they say 500hp but that's not true it's more of a TQ limit like failure from building insane TQ with boost.
This setup is more for low budget people and those who are less knowledgeable on building cars/engine. I doubt having forged pistons would be a selling point to those kinds of people, because they probably aren't turboing, or heavily modifying it anyways.
Hand in his pocket and knees out because of shorts , yeah this guy just built a fantastic engine and you can see the pride showing , the engine starts up then blows up and this guy in shorts can't understand why . Thumbs down Knees 😂
Will a stock world class T-5 hold up, or will you need to upgrade the T-5 and what size fuel injectors should you run, and can this block handle boost or any other force induction application
Blueprint website says the timing cover is for standard rotation water pumps only. Won't putting a reverse rotation, like the foxbody, cause cooling issues?
No. That's a confusing fitment note. The current reverse rotation water pumps that are available have a separator plate with circular holes instead of holes designed for a specific rotation. You can see what I'm talking about by clicking the link to the Motorcraft water pump below. We have one of these engines in one of our cars with a reverse rotation water pump. The cooling system is right on the money. -Landan lmr.com/item/LRS-38501B/mustang-ford-motorcraft-water-pump-pw291-79-93
That fitment note causes confusion. We have this engine in one of our shop cars with the reverse rotation water pump from our finishing kit. It works perfect! I'd go down the rabbit hole of explaining everything, but figured it's just easy to confirm that it works. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks. -Landan
I noticed that BluePrint doesn't list blocks on their website. I'm guessing there's a tremendous market for people who want a new block but don't need the expense or extra weight of a Ford Racing or Dart offering. How about it LMR? Can you convince BluePrint to sell bare blocks?
We have receieved other comments to see if BluePrint will offer bare blocks versus the full engine. We have passed these comments along to our product team to contact BluePrint about this. However, we cannot guarantee that this will happen. It is entirely up to BluePrint to make the descision to offer bare blocks.
We have recieved a lot of comments to offer other engine options from BluePrint. We have passed those comments along to the product team to consider other engines.
I apologize if this is a dumb question, my mechanical knowledge is limited to weekend warrior stuff. Vehicle fitment on your page is limited to mustangs and bronco. But just out of curiosity, could this work in a gen Tacoma? Hypothetically.
We don't work with Toyota/Lexus vehicles, so we wouldn't be able to answer that question accurately. We would recommend asking a Toyota-specific forum or Facebook Group for more info.
@@mikeivey3711 no reason really, just saw the video pop and like you said, it’s probably similar to the 4.7. Big tire garage did a nice 4.7 swap on his little single cab overlander. Those U2Z or whatever they are engines are really hard to find without 300k miles in a junkyard. For $5k this blueprint engine seems reasonable.
Do you need the specific timing cover that's on the BluePrint engine or do you need one that has a mechanical fuel pump provision? We have both options. Link below to the category. -Landan lmr.com/products/79-93-Mustang-Cam-Camshafts-Components
I hope they sell bare blocks soon. An affordable alternative to Dart would be nice.
They definitely need to offer bare blocks and short block assemblies. There are countless of Fox guys with good heads on tired OE short blocks out there looking for an upgrade.
I bought a SBC 350 from Blueprint years ago.
Makes great power, runs smooth, does great burnouts.
I recommend them very highly!
I may have just found a reason to pull my 54k orig mile 5.0/T5 out and stab THIS and a twin disc TKX in my '92 ! Talk about live forever.
Man, you guys are on it! Kuddos for putting this kit together for the motor to be ready to drop in and dressed! 👏🏻
Very nice, BluePrint makes a quality product!
Too bad Bp won’t sell the block by itself. Probably a fraction of dart. If 500 ish is the limit for the old blocks, I’d say this is probably good for 650-750 all day.
@@angry408w7 Richard Holdener gets over 650hp out of the Ford 302 block. czcams.com/video/P9O05u0JriY/video.html
@@angry408w7Blueprint said they won’t sell the block separate? That’s the first thing I did was went on there site to look for the bare block lol. Almost nobody wants that weak cam in there hot rod lol
Sweet, a awesome alternative to a overhaul, looks like a great motor.
I have a blueprint factory style 302 except its a 310 cubic inch! I love it
Cnc motorsports has the “good stuff” at reasonable prices when it comes to stroker engines for a real quality build at good prices
This is a beautiful engine that block is a work of art. O wish i had the scratch to snap one up and toss it in my 95, i know theres people saying 361? Thats slack but 361hp with a "mild" cam means this thing would eould feel pretty stout on the street and be night and day, stripped down on the dyno gross HP from a factory 5.0HO is closer to 250hp so thats over 100hp more thats significant and with a bigger cam probably could get closer to 400hp. I would think with this engine you would want to either run gt40 or aftermarket intake bigger throttlebody and aftermarket headers the stock HO parts would choke this engine TQ would be killer but that 361hp would be a fantasy.
THANK YOU, BLUEPRINT, ENGINES!!!!
Need one with Aussie 3V Cleveland heads.....
I’m digging the summit racing engine stand.
shhh we don't talk about that lol
GREAT VIDEO AND EDUCATION. THANKS FOR SHARING.
This is great. Lmr, please come up with a quality stock replacement clutch cable
I'll pass your comment along to our product team!
A point or more of compression and a solid roller and she would would rock.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. PERFECT FOR MY DAILY DRIVER.
Bare block, rest they can keep😂
Mine came in at 388hp.
That's awesome! -Landan
How is the engine holding up I’m gonna put one in my fox.
No mention of using this in a 94-95 mustang . I’m assuming the timing cover would need to be changed over at the least . Anything else that needs to be addressed ?
If you're using a factory 94/95 intake you'd probably need different valve covers, these look too tall to run with that intake.
If they dyno each engine and provide a dyno sheet, does it still need to be 'broken in'?
That 4 bolt HD block is much needed!
Great package at a great price.
I paid over $2K and waited forever to get a Dart SHP block in 2022.
The break-in period is mentioned in the welcome kit. I can't remember what it. -Landan
$5799
That's about what i expected. It would be nice to know what piston they used. A lot of folks would opt for a larger cam.
thats insane smh
Does it really matter what not forged piston they used? 😮
@@TheMajictech With a 2.02 intake valve? Yes.
@@chriswise1232 well, without forged pistons, forced induction, too much timing, or too many rpms will make for a bad day. Sure seems like a hell of a lot of money for a slightly improved block and heads with junk everything else.
@@TheMajictech That's the other big question. How much stronger is this block?
Very reasonably priced!!!!
no forged pistons?!? booooooooo
A cast crank does it matter?
Yeah I get the mindset that much money and cast pistons??? but This day n age a cast piston and cast cranks isn't the same cast parts from back in the day. Hell people are getting 1000hp from cast rotating assemblys all the time so why would you even want forged pistons unless you're using a power adder? They are trying to sell a rock solid engine that will last for years and years of trouble free operation and using a hypereutectic piston is a no brainier, they are quieter and cause way less cylinder wear than forged, besides it would just end up adding to the cost of the engine. Its a 360hp street engine using forged pistons would be pointless and a bad idea and if you plan on using a power adder this isn't the type of engine you should be looking at even tho I'm sure you could use one within reason. But also down the road if you want to build a fire breather this is one killer foundation having an aftermarket block and heads that could prob flow pretty killer with some porting. That block is beautiful imo and you are way ahead of the game with it over the factory block thats definitely has a limit they say 500hp but that's not true it's more of a TQ limit like failure from building insane TQ with boost.
This setup is more for low budget people and those who are less knowledgeable on building cars/engine. I doubt having forged pistons would be a selling point to those kinds of people, because they probably aren't turboing, or heavily modifying it anyways.
Hand in his pocket and knees out because of shorts , yeah this guy just built a fantastic engine and you can see the pride showing , the engine starts up then blows up and this guy in shorts can't understand why .
Thumbs down Knees 😂
Is the horsepower rating crank or wheel horsepower
Will a stock world class T-5 hold up, or will you need to upgrade the T-5 and what size fuel injectors should you run, and can this block handle boost or any other force induction application
24# minimum no power adder at all.
Sounds to me it would chop good with that amount of lift and lobe separation
Low duration numbers with wide lobe centers. That means a very smooth idle and lots of vacuum.
@@mchristrmy power brakes have never felt so good! This is a nice engine
odd question. can i just bolt the stock intake manifold onto this bad boy and pop it into the car? 89 efi car.
Cool! 😎
This is great and all. But is Blue Print ever going to make the LS3-4 cylinder. It made over 300 hp & lbs. And that’s just NA.
Blueprint website says the timing cover is for standard rotation water pumps only. Won't putting a reverse rotation, like the foxbody, cause cooling issues?
No. That's a confusing fitment note. The current reverse rotation water pumps that are available have a separator plate with circular holes instead of holes designed for a specific rotation. You can see what I'm talking about by clicking the link to the Motorcraft water pump below. We have one of these engines in one of our cars with a reverse rotation water pump. The cooling system is right on the money. -Landan
lmr.com/item/LRS-38501B/mustang-ford-motorcraft-water-pump-pw291-79-93
Thanks for the info. Had me a little concerned when I read that.
Blueprint web site says standard rotation water pump. Which is it standard or reverse rotation?
That fitment note causes confusion. We have this engine in one of our shop cars with the reverse rotation water pump from our finishing kit. It works perfect! I'd go down the rabbit hole of explaining everything, but figured it's just easy to confirm that it works. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks. -Landan
I noticed that BluePrint doesn't list blocks on their website. I'm guessing there's a tremendous market for people who want a new block but don't need the expense or extra weight of a Ford Racing or Dart offering. How about it LMR? Can you convince BluePrint to sell bare blocks?
We have receieved other comments to see if BluePrint will offer bare blocks versus the full engine. We have passed these comments along to our product team to contact BluePrint about this. However, we cannot guarantee that this will happen. It is entirely up to BluePrint to make the descision to offer bare blocks.
What headers are used with the round exhaust ports?
What type of distributor gear is required?
Steel. -Landan
Are you guys going to offer a short block Landan?
We have recieved a lot of comments to offer other engine options from BluePrint. We have passed those comments along to the product team to consider other engines.
@@latemodelrestoration add me to the list of folks that love a short-block option
I apologize if this is a dumb question, my mechanical knowledge is limited to weekend warrior stuff. Vehicle fitment on your page is limited to mustangs and bronco. But just out of curiosity, could this work in a gen Tacoma? Hypothetically.
We don't work with Toyota/Lexus vehicles, so we wouldn't be able to answer that question accurately. We would recommend asking a Toyota-specific forum or Facebook Group for more info.
Why a sbf? Toyota made a 4.7 v8 that has pretty similar overall dimensions
@@mikeivey3711 no reason really, just saw the video pop and like you said, it’s probably similar to the 4.7. Big tire garage did a nice 4.7 swap on his little single cab overlander. Those U2Z or whatever they are engines are really hard to find without 300k miles in a junkyard. For $5k this blueprint engine seems reasonable.
Landon, I have a question? Is th engine capable of adding boost (5lbs to 10lbs) mild? Vortech or maybe a kenne bell 2.1 flowzilla?
Without forged pistons? 😅
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As of 7/27/2024 it's $5,799.00.
For reference purposes.
Will the blueprint valve covers clear a factory fox EFI intake?
We haven't confirmed this, but judging the size of the valve cover, they should work. Sorry for not having a yes/no answer. Hope this helps. -Landan
No they won’t. Also they come with carb style covers. The stock should be just fine.
Would this happen to be smog legal for CA?
Only when installed in a pre emissions vehicle.
Check with BP... they have 50 state cert engines depending on year model.
How much for a bare block??
BluePrint does not offer a bare block. They only offer their engines as a whole.
where can one get that timing cover?
Do you need the specific timing cover that's on the BluePrint engine or do you need one that has a mechanical fuel pump provision? We have both options. Link below to the category. -Landan
lmr.com/products/79-93-Mustang-Cam-Camshafts-Components
@@latemodelrestoration im looking for the one the blueprint engine is using with the crank sensor provision
@@tufgriz8917 Unfortunately, we don't sell that particular timing cover. -Landan
Just go with a 4.6
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Crate doesn't mean great. I have seen many failures with ready to go engines as well as components. There is zero quality control . Good luck.
They include like a two year warranty maybe more. I’ve seen guys get rebuilt engines from machine shops and bam the engine is dead.