Trying to FIX: 3D Printing Pen
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- Hi, in this video I attempt to fix a 3D pen sent in by a viewer called Lee. The nozzle part has become blocked and pulled out the wires feeding the element. Did the element fail causing the blockage, or did the blockage cause the element wires to break? Let's find out.
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Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince.
11:47 vince I was cringing when you were bending the plastic as I knew it was going to break... here is a tip, next time heat it up with hot air for a second or 2 not too long that it melts. just enough to get it warm then it's more pliable and won't snap
I was thinking the exact same thing, screaming at the screen, heat up first Vince, otherwise it will break..... too late...
When you went back to bend that side again, ik it was going to be snapping off lol
there was nothing wrong with the old heating nozzle. There should be a little white/opaque tube (PTFE tube) that needs to be pushed ALL the way down to the nozzle. What was happening was that tube had a gap between the nozzle and tube and the PLA balls up there and never stays hot enough to get down. I have fixed a few ;), also same principle as a 3d printer.
all the 3d printing ppl are screaming on the inside. lol i know i was.
I had the same issue but the nozzle has threads connecting to the black tube, the temperature has melted the thread grooves and tried to push it back but it keeps sipping through, thoughts on how to fix it?
11:57 wow, i was saying, "Vince you're gonna break it", and sure enough. 😀
11:56 "yeah, let me just pry hard plastic so hard that my hand shakes, sure it won't break under that much stress, right ?" -My Mate VINCE 2020.
11:57 Sorry Vince, but I totally saw that coming.
Who was screaming at their screen, “NOT SO HARD, YOUR KNUCKLES ARE WHITE!!!” Love your videos, makes me almost brave enough to try to repair my iPod - oh, that’s right I did try. It’s in the can now. But I had fun trying it.
Had the exact same problem, thanks mate. Gonna buy a whole new pen...
I love that you follow through til the very end. Thanks!
Vince is always giving something good during a hard time with this pandemic stuff, this is the type of content i love. It helps with my mental health which is pretty bad at the moment.
If I got a nickel every time I knew Vince was going to break a piece off of the plastic parts, I'd be rich.
Looking forward to the MMV Merch for Xmas, Vince! 😉
Haha, I just hope this 3d pen can keep up with the demand!!
At least it would be a unique piece Mr Shaw, no 2 ever the same ;-)
Haha yeah. I’d totally put an MMV sticker on my camera bag. 😉
Put Ben in the productionline! Remember as long as he not getting any pay check it is only good paranting otherwise it is child work and al tax problem!
lol as soon as he said I just need to bend this out a bit I knew what was about to happen. nice
I bought one of these when they first appeared for my daughter and she burnt it out making 3d sweary words and giant body parts giving the world her take on life and what she thought of some ppl...
How old is she?
hey Vince I'm from washington in the US always watch your videos z
woohoo, more sound effects 😀
The music at 6:30 will always remind me of the Alton Towers advert music from the 90s
I am so glad I found that sound effect. That is one that I often use in real life, it will most definitely be featured again :-)
In The Hall of The Mountain King by Edvard Grieg. It's the Alton Towers theme to this day (sorry, I got obsessed with the place when I was younger and I know too much).
PLA is a made using corn so that is why it is sweet smelling. Sometimes it smells like maple syrup when I print.
Those heating temps are low for PLA and ABS (mostly the latter).
Good info bro, 👍. Looks like a fancy hot glue gun.
Haha it is kinda
Last thing to try maybe is to swap out the thermostat sensor from the old nozzle. The thing you was pushing back in at 8:25 ? The new sensor might be set to a lower spec/temp so throws "error" once it the pen shoves more heat through it then it can handle?
Me: "you know that's plastic and if you keep.."
Vince: *SNAP!!*
Me: *facepalm*
Happy Halloween My Mate VINCE !
I like Vince's music intro
Still another great vid 👍
Mr. Mate Vince...when you snapped that clip; I had such a laugh :) Great success on the repair though!
I have the same ESD tweezer kit love it
This is exactly what I did when trying to fix my daughters 3d printer pen. In the end I ended up putting a small screw in the hot end. Because whenever you used it it would push the hot end out from the force of the stepper motor inside pushing the pla through
Good job vince!
at least you can make another tab with the 3D pen @ 11:47 hahaha
PLA is plant based, it's supposedly safe for home use without any specific ventilation needs, that's part of why it's so popular for 3D printing. Some others like ABS not only smell bad, but the fumes are potentially toxic, and the printer should be well ventilated and kept in a separate room from where people are. In an apartment that might be hard to do, so without PLA 3D printing would be a lot less approachable.
that was a great pull👍
There are two common sizes of filament for 3D printers. 3.0mm and 1.75mm. It kinda looks to me as if you have the wrong size filament.
7:36 Cut the blob off and you've just 3d Printed yourself a golf Tee lol 11:58 A little tip, Next time you have to bend plastic you should heat it with your gun first before you try to bend it.
At least you got your satisfying click. That could have been totally me , breaking it while trying to bending it.
When you were bending out that tab I was wincing, waiting for it to snap. Did not dissapoint. I've done that too many times with plastic parts.
Awesome video!
Loved it =D Even though its a cheap product, its about what we learn along the way! Your point on why the replacement nozzle doesn't work is spot on =D
Thank you Chris :-)
@25:50 yes the insulation is gone, so it's probably then melting the solder from trying to heat quickly. Or I have no idea lol... Cool that you sorted it out in some way though!
Hey Vince, may not work but as a 3d printer myself what you have to do is cut the PLA at an angle when you first feed it so theres a point on it that may help in future
EXCITING !!!! Im building another 3D printer as i watch this :)
Have fun Paul :-)
I have an Ender 3 and an older Hictop dp-12 I3 Prusa clone. Love the Ender best.
If you hit that temp probe with your heat gun you can measure the resistance. It should change. Cant remember if it increases or decreases. Ive checked them before on turbo prop engines years ago.
12:05... You got your nice firm click :) Great video !
Cheers mate! Cool video!
You set my Google home off 😂
Soldering the nozzle is the issue I believe. The nozzle melts the solder. It has to be connected in a different matter? Or maybe it's designed that way. Using the real thing at 600 degrees. Solder would never last.
I love that you epoxied the nozzle on... if only you had a tool to hand that could melt, print and repair plastic components...
11:50 he's going to break that. 11:52 he's definitely going to break that. 11:57 told you. 😏
Bit Late now, but you would be surprised how insulative Kapton Tape can be.. APU I dropped a like..
I've had that problem on my 3d printer, tried it multiple times, cleaned it and everything. The problem was just the end nozzle. For some reason even though it was clear it created some friction or similar which prohibited the filament from flowing through. You can see that the heating element is not the problem in this case since the filament gets melted in the nozzle
An interesting video, Vince even though it wasn't fixable. I have a faulty smart light bulb if you would like to try and fix it?
Depending on the plastic, maybe if heated it until pliable you would have more success in bending it back into shape?
Thanks for the offer Chaos, I think I will pass on that one as I could imagine they are glued very well together. I can feel uneasy messing and filming things with 240V that weren't meant to be taken apart. Cheers :-)
PLA is made from corn, so that’s probably why it smells sweet
It may have been worth trying the original thermostat, as it may have been better calibrated to the pen. But great video as usual thanks.
great video
Excellent🎃
The resistance is probably higher on the replacement heater and meant for a unit that supplies it higher voltage..
I was going to say that the plastic clip will break when it did
It’s in a bit of a mess ..but can it be fixed?
Vince, this video here was a bit hard to watch for us into 3D printing haha
The reasoning was okay, but I think the issue was different. You see, sometimes plastic can bunch up right before entering the nozzle, getting a wider diameter than the nozzle entrance. This typically happens when the teflon tube inside the hotend/heating element is not inserted properly, or when something called "heat creep" happens. 3D printing pens may be more subject to heat creep due to the fact they don't have active cooling, but they are built differently to compensate. I think what happened here is just the teflon tube got pushed out a bit, so it was bulging between the nozzle entrance and the extra space between it and the tube.
There are 2 versions of this printer that look exactly the same. One is 5v one is 12v looks like you have a 12v element.
the thermal coupler from the old one to the new one.
Some things are just not worth repairing
Things are not made to last these days
But great video either way 👍
is it the stock power adaptor ? maybe if thats too weak it wouldn't allow more power getting in it, just a idea because the older nozzle didn't really work also so maybe the power adaptor isn't the original one
You also have to swap temperature sensor (the element with thin wires that pop out when you clean the old heater) because the resistance is different. My second guess for that error is if it is a "K" sensor type, it has polarity and you just have to swap thin wires to fix the error. You'll thank me later ;)
Just subscribed your the best
Me:you're bending it a bit too much. He won't post this video if it snapped. 1 second later:noooooooo
Did you try to change or even compare the old and new thermal resistor? They could report different values on different temperatures
Temp sensor may be wrong so up it to max. Or, that's not a coil of PLA, which also needs more heat
You need to try to fix more Nintendo Switches or other hand held. Love those vids :) Joking LOVE ALL YOUR VIDS :)
As soon as I saw you flex the black lock tabs out, I thought "uh oh, I bet it breaks on Vince" and voila. I so wanted to be wrong...
Hi bud the element as you call it it is called a theomorist ( sorry for the spelling lol)
Was it just me or did every last one of you just know one of the legs would break?
I actually get off on the trying to fix things. It's not right that economics dictate whether something is fixed and you should always give it a go. You are very inspiring in that you will never give up trying and that is sadly not very common in this entitled World.
can you show what to do when the then faster and slower piece is missing because i lost the thing. maybe you can show a homemade on, I don't know.
At least the dishwasher is still working
You should cut the end of the filament you're feeding in to a sharp point with a pair of cutters, or it will probably not feed in easily.
I actually had a similar problem with my old one.
It clogged for some reason and the feeding tube came loose and all the molten plastic was being ejected inside
It seems to me the wire that you fit in before you applied solder to the two ends you didn't connect the one and you shoved in that is the one that goes to the inside heating element all you did was just shove it in for but you didn't click it in place
I'm more curious if you had to spend the next 2 hours fixing the plates your missus was clearly launching into or out of the dishwasher in the background 😂
Maybe its only the wrong thermosensor try switching the ptc/ntc resistor
This is a pen made by or cloned from the MyRiwell pens readily available in China on AliExpress. The nozzle parts are available for a few euro/pound/dollar as well. It’s not really worth attempting a repair in all fairness.
what do you do when you fix it do you keep it or give it away
How can I send something in to get fixed?
Did you try swapping the thermocouple/ temperature sensor?
can someone give me any idea how can I order the exact nozzle from this video because in my country is very hard to find
Pull one of those out of your ear... then you'll know the meaning of satisfying!
Yeah cheers for setting off my Google!
Next time vince try gently heating the area then slowly bend to possition
What should I do if my 3D pen was abit lime that?
Hey Vince, did you tried to replace the insulation?
Going to say it again.....You need to get a 3d printer :) One that you build. So many videos can be made printing parts to upgrade the machine.
Insulated not inshulated
sir, the filament stuck inside the pen and i ended up having to disassemble my 3d pen and taking off all the gears and i dont know the originals posicions and i cant figure it out, can you send me a picture of yours for me to assemble it again plss
Maybe that new nozzle is made for a different model of pen OR u got a fake one sent to u from a bad seller
What soldering station do you use, also what was the end credits song.
Thanks
replacement tips is like 2box
22:40
CZcams says this video was uploaded 18 minutes ago. It goes for 27 minutes. But some comments here are 6 days old and people are commenting on the outcome?
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most likely the issue with the new nozzle is that the new nozzle is for a pen that runs on 12v , the original ones come with a 12v wall adapter where the cheap Chinese knockoffs are usb powered
The ONLY guarantee Chinese gadgets have.... It's gonna break sooner than anticipated. 🤔😂
0:30 the "plastic whatever it is" is called "a filament", to use the correct terminology.
Wait what!!!!
This video was posted 16mins ago and it's already got comments from 6 days?
I'm confused
Patrons get early access?
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Ironic comment given your username 😉