The myth of Loki’s monstrous children - Iseult Gillespie

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    Odin, the king of Asgard, was plagued by nightmares. Three fearsome figures haunted his dreams: a massive, writhing shadow; a shambling, rotting corpse; and worst of all, a monstrous beast with a deadly bite. Though their true forms were unknown to him, he could tell they were related to Asgard’s most persistent problem: Loki. Iseult Gillespie details the myth of Loki's secret children.
    Lesson by Iseult Gillespie, directed by Layron DeJarnette, Gumboyo.
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  • @TEDEd
    @TEDEd  Před 2 lety +1094

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  • @calico_queen8976
    @calico_queen8976 Před 2 lety +9533

    I love how when people in Mythology gets prophecies that someone's gonna kill them, they do something that makes that someone have every reason to kill them.

    • @JoSan3
      @JoSan3 Před 2 lety +362

      it kinda serves to tell people that fate is fixed

    • @bensoncheung2801
      @bensoncheung2801 Před 2 lety +27

      Pfp sauce?

    • @jsc1jake512
      @jsc1jake512 Před 2 lety +388

      "One often meets his fate on the path he takes to avoid it"

    • @tanmaygusain1316
      @tanmaygusain1316 Před 2 lety +20

      It makes the story interesting ig

    • @sixjhontongalamar979
      @sixjhontongalamar979 Před 2 lety +51

      Mythos are usually told with morals to teach in mind. So if something did not go wrong on a myth, then something is wrong.
      also... nice pfp.

  • @chinesecabbagefarmer
    @chinesecabbagefarmer Před 2 lety +7433

    “A child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.”

  • @jamaelwilliams8677
    @jamaelwilliams8677 Před 2 lety +6891

    In a way this story serves as a reminder not to let fear and paranoia guide your actions

    • @loki2240
      @loki2240 Před 2 lety +80

      In another way, it suggests that our fates are sealed and free will is an illusion. 😂

    • @xwithoutxanyxwarningx5191
      @xwithoutxanyxwarningx5191 Před 2 lety +67

      @@loki2240 only if you let fear take over you, which is what happened with Odin. He could've gotten away scot free but he chose to try and stop his supposed fate when he went into it willingly. But fate isn't something someone has already written in stone, it's what you define it as. And he was so set to thinking those children are the death of him when they're not, but he turned them into his demise. Definition of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Live by the sword, die by the sword, kinda deal.

    • @loki2240
      @loki2240 Před 2 lety +13

      @@xwithoutxanyxwarningx5191 - I'm not an expert on Norse mythology. But a lot of mythology (and religion) has an end of the world story. I don't think that it makes sense to think of those stories with our conceptions of free will and alternate outcomes if the the intent of the story is to explain an end of the world scenario (much like mythology and religion have creation of the world stories). They're just stories with a predetermined goal and a predetermined outcome.
      I think the self-fulfilling prophecy was just an interesting twist. I don't think having Odin take a different approach would've made it so that there was no Norse end of the world story, or even no end of the world story involving some or all of those children.

    • @loki2240
      @loki2240 Před 2 lety +5

      @@ghostderazgriz - Right. I know that Ragnarok is the end of Asgard and Midgard is supposed to be reborn. Ragnarok is an end of the world story, even if it's not the end of Midgard or humanity. It's the end of Asgard.
      My point is that, if the intent is to make up a story about the end of Asgard, that's going to be the end result of the story, no matter what the characters do.

    • @loki2240
      @loki2240 Před 2 lety +5

      @@ghostderazgriz - No, it isn't a matter for believers but rather the characters themselves. Their fate was predetermined to result in their end, regardless of what they did. I don't think it makes sense to say that Odin should've taken a different approach, as if he had free will, because he didn't have free will and his end was predetermined by the intent of the story.

  • @JaqenHghar.
    @JaqenHghar. Před 2 lety +4807

    In the version I read it was a little more tragic for Tyr. He knew he was betraying his friend which is why he volunteered. He was punishing himself and when Fenrir knew he had been tricked he looked at Tyr with a sad expression and then Try gave him a nod as to let him know to bite his arm off so Fenrir did so reluctantly

    • @kevinteschner5839
      @kevinteschner5839 Před 2 lety +457

      That was Neil Geiman’s Norse Mythology, I read the same passage. It was quite heartbreaking, especially because Odin didn’t have to do this

    • @JaqenHghar.
      @JaqenHghar. Před 2 lety +74

      @@kevinteschner5839 yes sir it was. Great book

    • @alstroemeria2466
      @alstroemeria2466 Před 2 lety +54

      @@JaqenHghar. Every book by Neil Gaiman is a good read

    • @blue_lobsterr
      @blue_lobsterr Před 2 lety +6

      @@alstroemeria2466 Yes

    • @JaqenHghar.
      @JaqenHghar. Před 2 lety +20

      @@alstroemeria2466 he did some comics for both DC and Marvel. I've never read any but I've heard good things. So yeah, dudes legit

  • @overcookedcooki5285
    @overcookedcooki5285 Před 2 lety +8244

    he let his fear create his own enemies, he won against the snake, who he could've used, Hel willing went, meaning there was no stopping him from helping/using her too, and the wolf had a deep relationship with the warrior, something that could be used as well.
    Thanks for all the likes, didn't think it'd get this far.

    • @ClassyKermit69420
      @ClassyKermit69420 Před 2 lety +325

      I click the 'replies' button thinking I'm gonna see some deep insight on this or even a 'yea lol' and I'm only even more disappointed in humanity

    • @lonelystranger7114
      @lonelystranger7114 Před 2 lety +161

      Yea lol

    • @othamneil8958
      @othamneil8958 Před 2 lety +238

      This feels out of character for someone like Odin. You'd think Odin would be wise enough to not challenge fate. I'd like to think that he knew he was digging his own grave, and his actions were to serve a different purpose.

    • @gamecokben
      @gamecokben Před 2 lety +124

      @@othamneil8958 it's almost like...and forgive me, I'm just speculating...but it's almost like Odin isn't real

    • @ineslazaro3870
      @ineslazaro3870 Před 2 lety +73

      @@gamecokben (Gasp) Whaaaat? Nooooo

  • @redsparks2025
    @redsparks2025 Před 2 lety +3668

    Three personifications of the unknown (and possibly the unknowable; the true nightmare).
    1. Jörmungandr: the unknown of the unobservable world beyond one's field of sight.
    2. Fenrir: the unknown of the natural world beyond one's ability to tame or control.
    3. Hel: the unknown beyond one's death, the cessation of one's existence.

  • @Sia-kg2ux
    @Sia-kg2ux Před 2 lety +3249

    Odin had a rare case of self-fulfilling prophecy. None these would have happen if he didn’t act based on a dream.

    • @dfmunoz2422
      @dfmunoz2422 Před 2 lety +26

      Exactly

    • @kurtlindner
      @kurtlindner Před 2 lety +89

      It would have happened, it is made clear in the actual story that Loki's children will bring ruin to Asgard. You could say it's about not being able to deny fate, with some allegory thrown in on the side, in the specific forms of Loki's children.
      This retelling barely skims the surface of the entire story.

    • @alessandrodelogu7931
      @alessandrodelogu7931 Před 2 lety +58

      Oedipus' story is another case. He would have never killed his own father and married his own mother if they hadn't abandoned him first.

    • @gary7846
      @gary7846 Před 2 lety +13

      this just proves you can't escape fate, even for the gods

    • @loki2240
      @loki2240 Před 2 lety +14

      Someone has never seen a Final Destination movie... 😜
      But seriously, just because his actions contributed to those results - that doesn't mean that roughly the same results wouldn't have come about despite Odin taking other actions (including fundamentally different approaches). In such mythology, the world has to end somehow.

  • @piriyaj1347
    @piriyaj1347 Před 2 lety +2557

    I find Fenrir’s myth quite heart-breaking. He wouldn’t have agreed to play these ‘power tests’ at all if Tyr wasn’t there. And then Tyr is the only one who volunteered to offer his arm, paying the price of betrayal to his wolf friend himself.

    • @bensoncheung2801
      @bensoncheung2801 Před 2 lety +3

      442 👍

    • @phousefilms
      @phousefilms Před 2 lety +122

      In at least one version of the story, he says that if the gods had NOT bound him, he would have been their friend and companion and fought beside them, but now he was their enemy for all time.

    • @Rox123ify
      @Rox123ify Před 2 lety +49

      If I'm not mistaken, when Ragnarok happens Fenrir breaks his constraints, eats Midgard (earth) whole, runs off to Asgard and kills Odin before being killed.

    • @captainblue5096
      @captainblue5096 Před 2 lety +31

      According to another comment, another version of the story says that Tyr realized what Odin had done, and volunteered himself as punishment.

    • @dragonova279
      @dragonova279 Před rokem

      Honestly he should have asked for prins head to be in his mouth

  • @KurtDaronPRivo
    @KurtDaronPRivo Před 2 lety +1608

    The fact that atleast Fenrir's fate could've been easily avoided by a bit more trust is quite sad, especially with the wolf's friendship with Tyr.

    • @jamaelwilliams8677
      @jamaelwilliams8677 Před 2 lety +68

      Yeah if it wasn't for his paranoia and fear all this could have been avoided

    • @loki2240
      @loki2240 Před 2 lety +53

      @@jamaelwilliams8677 - That's a common theme in Greek mythology, too.

    • @jamaelwilliams8677
      @jamaelwilliams8677 Před 2 lety +10

      @@loki2240 oh yeah the stories and myths with them or too many to count

    • @kurtlindner
      @kurtlindner Před 2 lety +29

      No, that can only be said at the most superficial level. Like many old epics, the events that occur basically have to occur. The story illustrates, among other things, how choice can sometimes be an illusion. This retelling is so-so, but not wholly accurate taken by simply what the video showed.

    • @anthyavila9726
      @anthyavila9726 Před 2 lety +20

      @@jamaelwilliams8677 That's not how Norse mythology operates. As a kid, I used to find all the mistakes regrettable and frustrating, but the Norse put a lot of emphasis on the preordained. All of this wasn't just bound to happen, it had to happen. Ragnarok was a fate they couldn't avoid. That concept is one of the very foundations of Norse belief itself.

  • @l.n.3372
    @l.n.3372 Před 2 lety +2903

    As an observer who isn't as familiar with Norse culture or mythology, I find it interesting how Odin immediately takes action against what are essentially 3 innocent "children" whose only mistake was being born to the wrong parent (Loki). Does this imply that it's ok to take preventive action before a "criminal" has even committed their supposed crime? Would it have been the same situation if they had been children of Thor? Or would Odin have given a chance to any child of Thor, but not with Loki? Fascinating topic and great animation!

    • @matiassu5604
      @matiassu5604 Před 2 lety +205

      Knowing Thor's mythology, I'd inmediately take Thor's children into custody, seeing that he is a violent drunkard, not that different from the average vikings, though considered upright by their standards (no wrong oaths and stuff).

    • @jkshorts4520
      @jkshorts4520 Před 2 lety +100

      Odin is a seer with ravens for eye balls I think he takes his visions seriously

    • @katarinajanoskova
      @katarinajanoskova Před 2 lety +71

      Fate, predestination and preventative action is a theme of many myths, stories and philosophical enquiries. Whether it's Oedipus and his strange tale or the Euthyphro dilemma.
      Looks like everyone pondered these things for millennia.

    • @ghostderazgriz
      @ghostderazgriz Před 2 lety +87

      Not sure how you got "does that mean it's ok"
      Preventative measures literally backfired and each of these siblings are foretold to fight the gods during Ragnorock.

    • @l.n.3372
      @l.n.3372 Před 2 lety +14

      @@ghostderazgriz
      That's only because Odin had a vision - if he didn't, who is to say his plan backfires at all? It's the case of a self fulfilling prophecy. Without the prophecy, are the same situations still true or not.

  • @michaelweiske702
    @michaelweiske702 Před 2 lety +1830

    Hel should not be full of fire. A burning underworld is from Greco-Roman mythology, later adopted into Christian and Muslim imagery, but the Norse underworld is exceedingly cold.

    • @DD-kc6hg
      @DD-kc6hg Před 2 lety +223

      That is a pretty interesting concept.
      A cold underworld.

    • @acookie7548
      @acookie7548 Před 2 lety +184

      that’s interesting, considering the climates that the myths came from

    • @mrcat6433
      @mrcat6433 Před 2 lety +323

      Makes sense that a culture that existed in Norway should be more afraid of the cold than of the heat.

    • @overcookedcooki5285
      @overcookedcooki5285 Před 2 lety +11

      interesting

    • @z0mbabe
      @z0mbabe Před 2 lety +148

      Greek Mythology's Underworld wasn't on fire either. Heaven was also down there, after all

  • @zur137
    @zur137 Před 2 lety +1149

    I love how his actions created the monsters.

    • @mildndr
      @mildndr Před 2 lety +14

      The wolves of norse mythology:
      Fenrir
      Garmr
      Skoll
      Hati

    • @calmnarrative
      @calmnarrative Před 2 lety +5

      Villain origin stories are pretty similar.

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 Před 2 lety +17

      Yes and no. Ragnarok was preordained. Norse belief is firm on this point. Prophecy, once made, is set in stone.
      It was always going to turn out badly for the Aesir. All Odin did was make it a personal Tragedy.

    • @agnibeena8069
      @agnibeena8069 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Bluecho4 If the prophecy was set in stone, why did they try to stop it? A genuine question as I'm not too familiar with it

    • @IDontReallyWantAYoutubeHandle
      @IDontReallyWantAYoutubeHandle Před 2 lety +5

      @@agnibeena8069 I think the main one is that Ragnarok basically means that all of the old gods (so Thor, Loki, Odin, etc) will die. Norse Gods are a bit different from your traditional god in which they're extremely flawed, they're selfish, break their oaths, lie, cheat and are extremely human. Odin knows the prophecies and especially here it's important, since Fenrir kills Odin at the time of Ragnarok. Since he doesn't want to die, he restrains them in order to try and escape his fate, and we know how that turns out.

  • @fardiorin9133
    @fardiorin9133 Před 2 lety +746

    One small minor correction about Hel's dwelling of Helheim, it is not fiery so much that it is only a place of darkness and misery.

    • @chickentikka4383
      @chickentikka4383 Před 2 lety +52

      Is it not supposed to be extremely cold aswell?

    • @brunocorrea2854
      @brunocorrea2854 Před 2 lety +18

      @@chickentikka4383 yep yep!

    • @fardiorin9133
      @fardiorin9133 Před 2 lety +40

      @@chickentikka4383 Yes, but there's other world called Niflheim which is supposed to be the land of ice. Helheim was more like the neutral underworld, akin to Hades in Greek mythology.

    • @chickentikka4383
      @chickentikka4383 Před 2 lety +7

      @@fardiorin9133 I'll assume you're talking about Tartarus, but yeah, I get you.

    • @JoSan3
      @JoSan3 Před 2 lety +6

      @@chickentikka4383 tartarus is an even deeper realm beyond hades/erebus reserved for the damned. The neutral underworld where the dead resides is hades/erebus

  • @rzl-ci1jj
    @rzl-ci1jj Před 2 lety +829

    for those who were wondering:
    -jormungandr continued to circle the earth, and when it let go, Ragnarök would start. In one encounter, Thor fishes for Jormungand, and fails to pull him up only when the giant Hymir, terrified that this will bring about Ragnarök, severs the line, sending the snake back down to the depths.
    -fenrir, in another version of the myth, devours the sun and fights Odin head on during Ragnarök, which he won by swallowing Odin whole. He was later killed by Odin's son Vidar, the god of vengeance
    -hel. i wasnt able to find much relating to hel, but we can assume she either died in the battle of Ragnarök or stayed in hel

    • @richardkurniawan6066
      @richardkurniawan6066 Před 2 lety +15

      he double hockey sticks

    • @willemvandebeek
      @willemvandebeek Před 2 lety +81

      Fenrir's sons Sköll & Hati will swallow the Sun & Moon respectively.....

    • @gamecokben
      @gamecokben Před 2 lety +18

      And then the cycle restarts

    • @mildndr
      @mildndr Před 2 lety +48

      Fun fact: many norse people believe that Fenrir is the father of another two giant wolves from norse mythology: skoll and hati

    • @ManSeekingMeaning
      @ManSeekingMeaning Před 2 lety +9

      Vidar, or Vitharr, doesn’t get enough love.

  • @ravensthatflywiththenightm7319

    I've always felt sorry for Fenrir. He only wanted to be accepted and respected by the Aesir, which was why he kept accepting chains just to show off how strong he was before the Gods. But of course that's the tragedy of his story. Had Odin not been such a paranoid wreck, Fenrir would not have had any reason to resent the Gods.

  • @WolfDragon-iz7wq
    @WolfDragon-iz7wq Před 2 lety +332

    One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it. -Master Oogway

  • @thewingedhussar4188
    @thewingedhussar4188 Před 2 lety +282

    The only inaccurate thing in this video IS the fact Norse Hel was actually cold/mild.
    Depending on your role in life.
    If you were just a normal person who died.
    Hel was just a regular place, similar to our world.
    Mild, temperate, etc.
    The cold parts of Hel was Hel's home/hall and where the really bad people were sent.
    The really cold and dark places.

    • @citra1885
      @citra1885 Před 2 lety +1

      I don't really know anything about Hel, but she hasn't done anything wrong right? So why was she even sent into the coldest place?
      Or maybe she had done something awful

    • @freezaaaa
      @freezaaaa Před 2 lety +5

      @@citra1885 i think it was becuse she is daughter of loki and half skelaton

    • @Ullish1989
      @Ullish1989 Před 2 lety +5

      And Odin has two eyes in this

    • @scrungozeclown836
      @scrungozeclown836 Před rokem +2

      @@citra1885 to be fair, the coldest place would be Niflheim, literally the home of the primordial cold

  • @leeks1408
    @leeks1408 Před 2 lety +321

    Really makes you feel for the characters you thought were bad guys but were really the victims. Like the live action Maleficent film. I was always fascinated by Jormangandr

  • @alphabetboy8569
    @alphabetboy8569 Před 2 lety +153

    In other tales, Hel was promoted to become the Queen of the Dead, she was described as Cold but Just, in Baldr's Death, when Baldr's Mother, Frigg, asked Hel to return her late Son's soul to the living world, Hel agreed but only if every living thing weep and mourn over his death, something that didn't happen because Loki, her father, sabotaged Friggs plan by not mourning the late god, because it was a closed deal, Hel kept Baldr's soul safe until the End of Ragnarok as he'll be resurrected.

  • @DD-kc6hg
    @DD-kc6hg Před 2 lety +294

    Gods: *Aren't able to do something*
    Dwarves : Hold our Beer.

    • @macmacbrazze3234
      @macmacbrazze3234 Před 2 lety +23

      I can almost imagine their site filled with testimonials by various gods LOL

    • @that1cat999
      @that1cat999 Před 2 lety +8

      All twelve trillion casks of it.

  • @IonsonMars
    @IonsonMars Před 2 lety +631

    The animation and narration quality just gets better Ted-Ed! Good job

    • @ojeshk.c.6744
      @ojeshk.c.6744 Před 2 lety

      Stop. It was uploaded 3 minutes ago, and the video is 6 minutes long

    • @IonsonMars
      @IonsonMars Před 2 lety +6

      @@ojeshk.c.6744 it was a first glance Bruh

    • @theautisticintrovertedluca3634
      @theautisticintrovertedluca3634 Před 2 lety

      Thoses who try to prevent profocies often seal their own doom

    • @elTacoManiac
      @elTacoManiac Před rokem

      Right? I really liked translating it to Portuguese

  • @Mailliweer
    @Mailliweer Před 2 lety +31

    I am immediately reminded of an Oogway quote, "One often meets their fate after taking the path to avoid it".
    Odin, through his paranoia created the enemies from his nightmares.

  • @ZOCCOK
    @ZOCCOK Před 2 lety +164

    I respect that Loki was able to satisfy a Giantess despite being average sized.
    Truly a person to get inspired from 🙏

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 Před 2 lety +1

      Well he's a shape-shifter. I mean, he got f-ed by a stallion.

    • @flossbrunn
      @flossbrunn Před 2 lety +15

      The jötnar are not necessarily very huge

    • @spiderham5514
      @spiderham5514 Před rokem +9

      @@flossbrunn they can be though

    • @spaghettimaghetti5042
      @spaghettimaghetti5042 Před rokem

      Actually giants aren’t what you think it is half of the giants are the size of an average human

    • @Minetendo_Fan
      @Minetendo_Fan Před 10 měsíci

      Proof that size doesn't matter

  • @krishnakumarverma4115
    @krishnakumarverma4115 Před 2 lety +185

    'The dwarfs' always got something extraordinary! 😇

  • @Akash-cy2xv
    @Akash-cy2xv Před 2 lety +31

    1:51
    Its actually funny how cute that is

  • @ouchandgamesandmoreouch9662
    @ouchandgamesandmoreouch9662 Před 2 lety +129

    The message of the story: If you see a prophecy of troubles, don't do anything about it.
    You'll just end up fulfilling it.

    • @someguy7723
      @someguy7723 Před 2 lety +6

      Its about fear and not giving in to unrational fear and paranioa.
      Alot of these norse storys were children storys for when everyone sat inside during the long winter. They always has some sorth of lesson to them.

    • @SirThopas3
      @SirThopas3 Před 2 lety +5

      @@someguy7723 What lesson were the Norse trying to teach when they talked about Loki tying one end of a rope around his balls and the other end around a goat?

    • @IlNamelessKinglI
      @IlNamelessKinglI Před 2 lety +1

      @@SirThopas3 Is that a story? For real? Lmao

    • @someguy7723
      @someguy7723 Před 2 lety +2

      @@SirThopas3 that reading to much about CBT on wikipedia can lead to dangures things

    • @SirThopas3
      @SirThopas3 Před 2 lety

      @@IlNamelessKinglI Oh yeah, lol, Loki is trying to make someone laugh and this is what he does.

  • @f.santyabudi
    @f.santyabudi Před 2 lety +178

    MY GOD, that ending makes me goosebumps! What a masterpiece ❤️
    Edit: what makes me goosebumps, when the narrator could pass the feeling of hatred and something worse will be happened is the best part of this video

  • @hycamtro1aegirsson128
    @hycamtro1aegirsson128 Před 2 lety +70

    wasn't Hela asked to rule Helheim, because she had a strong affiliation with death and also she knew better than the other gods?

    •  Před 2 lety +20

      Some says that is the kind of excuse they used to send her there. Either way, Hel is willing to go with it.

  • @00corin00
    @00corin00 Před 2 lety +120

    Odin should be missing an eye. I love these videos! Keep the Norse mythology coming! Please!!!!!!

    • @lukemitchell5470
      @lukemitchell5470 Před 2 lety +34

      Odin lost his eye when he sacrificed it to drink from Mimir's well (The Well of Urd), so that he could gain cosmic wisdom. Given that his actions in this tale are very unwise, this could have happened before that.

    • @TalonInTx
      @TalonInTx Před 2 lety +8

      @@lukemitchell5470 given that losing his eye didn't reveal to him that these three would bring about Ragnarok and how to stop them, he clearly got ripped off for the "cosmic wisdom".

    • @nathangraham2952
      @nathangraham2952 Před rokem

      This seemed to have occurred before Odin became wise

  • @tmmny
    @tmmny Před 2 lety +78

    I know you guys kept some stuff out of the story to keep it short but there are some key things left out. Odin challenged Fenrir with the promise that if he couldn't free himself from the chain he would be freed. to make sure this would happen he asked that one of the gods put his arm in his mouth and no god would because they knew what would happen and they didn't want to loose an arm. so finally tyr did and lost his arm in the process. I know it's small but the promise of Odin that he would let him free is the crucial point of Fenrirs story.
    edit: there are a lot of variations of hel ( in the Poetic Edda it's more of a place and in the Prose Edda it's Loki's daughter ) but they all say that odin tasked hel to guide the souls and rule over the underworld. the main thing is hel's story is that she can't leave.. well until Ragnarök. there is no mention as far as I know in any Edda that she conquered the underworld.

  • @blacktiger2154
    @blacktiger2154 Před rokem +8

    Baby Fenrir is literally the cutest little thing ever!

  • @quark1243
    @quark1243 Před 2 lety +18

    "👹...inching ever closer to his bloody revenge👹👹👹👹👹👹.
    For more stories about children being underestimated....😊😊"
    Dam that made me laugh (5:30)

  • @jarvis6253
    @jarvis6253 Před 2 lety +16

    1:44 little did he know this wolf was bound to cause the end of the world

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena Před 2 lety +39

    Despite having gained knowledge and wisdom, Odin unwittingly created his own nightmares.

  • @pinutelbs8644
    @pinutelbs8644 Před 2 lety +71

    Fun Fact: Fenrir is actually In the movie of thor Ragnarok. he's Hella's dog, Bit is actually referred to as "Fenris" in the movie

    • @szymonpinkowski256
      @szymonpinkowski256 Před 2 lety

      Its diffrenet dog

    • @enlongjones2394
      @enlongjones2394 Před 2 lety +9

      @@szymonpinkowski256 actually no. “Fenrisúlfr” (Fenris Wolf) is another name by which Fenrir is known.

    • @pinutelbs8644
      @pinutelbs8644 Před 2 lety +3

      @@szymonpinkowski256 its the same

    • @matze9201
      @matze9201 Před 2 lety +3

      In the movie Fenrir is Hella's dog. But in mythology Garm is Hella's dog and the guardian of the gates of Helheim.

    • @pinutelbs8644
      @pinutelbs8644 Před 2 lety

      @@matze9201 true

  • @DiracComb.7585
    @DiracComb.7585 Před 2 lety +51

    “One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.” - Master Oogway

  • @cramerfloro5936
    @cramerfloro5936 Před 2 lety +13

    4:37 top 10 anime betrayals

  • @theseusswore
    @theseusswore Před 2 lety +142

    what if Fenrir was just, trying to live? what if he wasnt going to turn into the beast he became unless he was provoked by Tyr to do so?

    • @Ay0godd
      @Ay0godd Před 2 lety +43

      That's the whole point of the story I feel like, the girl and the wolf could have just been nurtured into somewhat harmless creatures you have to be careful around, of course the snake had to be killed (but for some reason wasn't), but the way they handled everything just made their existing problem 10x worse.

    • @theseusswore
      @theseusswore Před 2 lety +2

      @@Ay0goddyeah lmao

    • @kurtlindner
      @kurtlindner Před 2 lety +23

      ​@@Ay0godd No, this version barely skims the surface of the actual story. It is made clear that Loki's children will bring ruin to Asgard, there is no salvation for Hel or Jormungandr, and Fenrir's loyalty was primarily to Tyr alone.
      It's better viewed as an allegory for, "What if you tried to keep a wild wolf as a pet," "What if you've got someone with leperosy hanging around," "what if you've got someone you know is going to stab you in the back."
      Also, Loki's children are all loyal to their Father, and there is basically no redemption for Loki by his own deeds.

    • @for_kl.5574
      @for_kl.5574 Před 2 lety +12

      @@kurtlindner But isn't that like it was fate they would ruin Asgard because the deeds Odin had done and it was also fate that Odin dreamt about them and thought they would destroy Asgard so he did all that which truly turned the children into real dangers? At the end it was all thanks to him. It could have gone other ways.

    • @kurtlindner
      @kurtlindner Před 2 lety +3

      ​@@for_kl.5574 No, it didn't matter what happened, the result had nothing to do with how it came to pass; the result is the prophecy. TED screwed up the story in their presentation, Odin's dreams weren't the cause of Ragnarok, Ragnarok was always going to ordained. Had Odin done nothing, the same end would come to pass.
      You should look into the actual story.
      Also, the perspective you're asserting, while it sounds perfectly reasonable to you or me, or most people of this era, that same is not necessarily true for people of other times in history, essentially it's viewing history through a histrocentric perspective. Interpreting ancient stories by our own worldview yields many problems in the same way as if one reads a story written in French from an English speaking perspective -everything is gibberish. You must at the very least translate the text or better yet, read the text in French; and the same is true of ancient stories. To properly interpret ancient stories like we must start from the perspective of the people and culture from whence the work comes if we want to truly understand it.

  • @kevinobill4818
    @kevinobill4818 Před 2 lety +20

    In Norse, Jormungandr is my favorite mythical figure. Seeing Tyr played with Fenrir in a friendly way makes me warm my heart

  • @austin8991
    @austin8991 Před 2 lety +12

    1:36 what an anticlimax😂 I enjoyed the video, thank you👍

  • @kyleoliver5783
    @kyleoliver5783 Před 2 lety +20

    These myths are my favourite type of TED-ED videos. The quality of the animation and narration for them are just fantastic! Please make more myth and lore videos!

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY Před 2 lety +43

    “Someday you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again.”
    ― C.S. Lewis

  • @michaelnelson2976
    @michaelnelson2976 Před 2 lety +7

    I really love and appreciate that the video wrapped all the way around to show how Odin just hurt himself so much over this. Poor All-Father and his unwilling victims...

  • @DD-kc6hg
    @DD-kc6hg Před 2 lety +74

    Release Fenrir he didn't do anything wrong.

  • @kathanprajapati8956
    @kathanprajapati8956 Před 2 lety +56

    Stan lee on reading Norse mythology be like:
    'No, this is too disturbing for the audience.'

  • @LordOmnissiah
    @LordOmnissiah Před 2 lety +16

    And now we have the motivation for Loki playing the trick that killed Baldr. He wanted revenge for what the gods did to his kids.

    • @jessicadecuir5622
      @jessicadecuir5622 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Loki: You take my pride and joy? I’ll return the favor…

  • @lamontthomas3972
    @lamontthomas3972 Před 2 lety +8

    5:37 "For more tales of children being ignored and underestimated..." 😂🥴

  • @aidanrogers4438
    @aidanrogers4438 Před 2 lety +9

    The animation is on point for this episode! And I never thought Fenrir the Wolf could be made to look so cute.

  • @autumngalix4616
    @autumngalix4616 Před 2 lety +5

    These weren't monsters, they were children.

  • @yeshaswiniparvatham5474
    @yeshaswiniparvatham5474 Před 2 lety +57

    Is there a part 2 to this myth? Would love to watch the next one!!

    • @fictionfan0
      @fictionfan0 Před 2 lety +35

      Only if you consider Ragnarok to be the long-awaited sequel.

    • @1995pieter
      @1995pieter Před 2 lety +9

      sure, the end of the world

    • @B00Radl33
      @B00Radl33 Před 2 lety +3

      Neil Gaiman wrote a book on the whole subject. Best version I ever found. A lot happens next.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Před 2 lety +2

      As a revenge for what Odin did to Loki's children, Loki plays a (maybe accidentally) deadly prank on one of Odin's children.
      Odin kill's Loki's 2 human/Aesir looking sons, and binds Loki to a rock, in a cave, using THE ENTRAILS OF LOKI'S SON.
      Odin puts a serpent over Loki, that drips painful poison on Loki. Loki's wife is left with him. With a bowl to collect the poison, but at times she has to take the bowl away to empty it. When Loki's wife takes the bowl away, Loki's screams and struggles against the entrails of their son, causing earthquakes.
      The day Loki is freed/ gets free, is the day his "monster" children are freed, and together they will get vengeance by attacking Odin and the Aesir, for treating them horribly. All will die in the process except young children of some Aesir. Those children will restart the cycle of creation.

    • @michaeliv284
      @michaeliv284 Před 5 měsíci

      Aside from Ragnarok, the only things that can be part two are bit parts; Thor went fishing with Tyr's dad and pulled up Jormungandr early. And when Baldr died, Hel would only give him back if everything in the realms wept for him.

  • @cottykerridge1082
    @cottykerridge1082 Před 2 lety +11

    Love this! One thing to make it even better would be for Odin to be depicted as one eyed, especially as he is foreseeing his doom!

  • @shafinnahian75
    @shafinnahian75 Před 2 lety +25

    Man Loki's family has issues

    • @VoidKing666
      @VoidKing666 Před 2 lety +6

      They’re gods. What do you expect?

  • @NikhilSingh-ei2ft
    @NikhilSingh-ei2ft Před rokem +7

    The voice over of this episode was just phenomenal

  • @beizanten1
    @beizanten1 Před rokem +7

    i feel sorry for loki children. great story

  • @TheRealDominikVinko
    @TheRealDominikVinko Před 2 lety +13

    Love the norse mythology videos! They are my favorites on this channel by far! Hope you continue making more! Keep up the good work ❤️

  • @kurtlindner
    @kurtlindner Před 2 lety +16

    Tyr looks more like Thor than Thor.

  • @SayStats
    @SayStats Před 2 lety +7

    We already saw Hela (as Thor’s elder sister) and Fenris (as Hela’s pet?) in “Thor Ragnarok”. So we are yet to see the serpent Jormungandr in the MCU (Maybe in “Thor: Love and Thunder”?). Can’t wait!

  • @klaystels6559
    @klaystels6559 Před rokem +2

    this story is the embodiment of the quote, “one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it”

  • @ThePilot631
    @ThePilot631 Před 11 měsíci +2

    First time I hear this, wow; they should turn this into a movie

  • @CinderellaSequeira
    @CinderellaSequeira Před 2 lety +25

    The narrator and animation are extraordinary!!!!

  • @ladyfire44
    @ladyfire44 Před 2 lety +7

    Fenrir, I felt bad for. Tyr and him had a good friendship. Odin should've seen this instead of living with his paranoia. Maybe he would've know that Fenrir wasn't a threat and kept him around

  • @jamaelwilliams8677
    @jamaelwilliams8677 Před 2 lety +26

    Honestly I feel as though all of this could have been avoided if Odin wasn't so fearful and paranoid fenrir in the others🤷🏾

    • @HalgaDoy
      @HalgaDoy Před 2 lety +1

      It seems to be a recurrent theme in nordic mythology. Afaik, Ragnarok begins with Friggs (Odins wife) paranoia from a dream.

    • @noodleexpanding3407
      @noodleexpanding3407 Před 2 lety

      @@HalgaDoy This is just not true

  • @theashapeshift
    @theashapeshift Před 2 lety +1

    3:44 I like the little noise added to fish breath

  • @Human_traain
    @Human_traain Před 2 lety +12

    Loki is such a interesting god

    • @DD-kc6hg
      @DD-kc6hg Před 2 lety +3

      He is responsible for birthing Odin's horse Sleipnir.

    • @avaneeshjadhav255
      @avaneeshjadhav255 Před 2 lety +9

      Loki carrying the entire norse mythology

  • @darkner2390
    @darkner2390 Před rokem +10

    So, are we not going to question how Loki and a female giant managed to get a wolf, a serpent and a half-corpse as children?

  • @carolgaysanchez8287
    @carolgaysanchez8287 Před 2 lety +2

    Fenrir :
    Trying to act scary
    Tyr :
    Lol let me put you on pocket

  • @sensennsen
    @sensennsen Před rokem +3

    Odin was obsessed with the prophecy of Ragnarok. Not only was he consumed by paranoia but also by obsession.

  • @veronicapiccinini7956
    @veronicapiccinini7956 Před 2 lety +6

    Talk about Self Fulfilling Prophecy. His attempts to avert his fate by mistreating Loki’s spawn led to the destruction of the world and the deaths of many gods, known as Ragnarok.
    In their defense, Loki’ children have very good reasons to hate them,
    1) The snake (I can’t write his name, sorry) was acting in self defense and they throw him into the sea
    2) They give Hela a thankless job and people were afraid of her because of her appearance;
    3) Fenrir was betrayed by the gods, even by his best friend

  • @heyheyheye7256
    @heyheyheye7256 Před 2 lety +3

    Amazingly explained with a bit of lore,suspense and well written setting.I’m sure that anyone would want to watch or read the end of this entire journey

  • @1weck1
    @1weck1 Před rokem +1

    Glad I saw this video. Recently in life, I’ve found that a lot of my anxieties and worries are self fulfilling to a point. The anxiety and worry makes me act poorly in a otherwise normal situation, and I’m glad I saw this video as a relatable message to worry less and avoid paranoia.

  • @vladtheimpaler9577
    @vladtheimpaler9577 Před 2 lety +4

    Fenrir had an inherent cruelty to him but deep down he wanted to be accepted by the gods as part of their family. But Odin and the others out of fear treated him like a monster and so he became one. A self fulfilling prophecy.

  • @maryati6088
    @maryati6088 Před 2 lety +6

    Ted-Ed never fail to entertain with good narration,animation and music

  • @rowanrooks
    @rowanrooks Před 2 lety +7

    This was so cool. I only wish that the animations used the mythological appearances of the gods instead of the traits from MCU.

  • @darcyjeresano1198
    @darcyjeresano1198 Před 2 lety +19

    A man who let his prophecy came true by a single dream

    • @B00Radl33
      @B00Radl33 Před 2 lety +1

      A single dream he had over and over and over again.
      Probably the one dream he had more than any other in his immortal life.

  • @bernardsoul5186
    @bernardsoul5186 Před 2 lety +14

    I wanted to hear more about the children's conception. How did Loki get it on with the giantess?

    • @macmacbrazze3234
      @macmacbrazze3234 Před 2 lety +1

      Same way he got f'ed by a stallion and gave birth to Odin's horse.

    • @B00Radl33
      @B00Radl33 Před 2 lety +10

      Loki is at least part giant himself, and an experienced shape shifter. Not really a problem for him.

  • @ayaehab
    @ayaehab Před 2 lety +10

    I love this bit in Gaiman's Norse Mythology, his voice rings in my ears as I hear it here too. There are bits that are different also (hel was merely a child in Gaiman's version) , maybe due to the videos length or else, it's gorgeous nevertheless

  • @zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998
    @zawsrdtygbhjimokpl6998 Před 2 lety +5

    excellent voice acting, moreso than I'm used to. I've seen many retellings of these 3, but this one is one of the best
    you'd make a good DM for a tabletop game

  • @7ANKOUCH
    @7ANKOUCH Před 2 lety +21

    a really cool story . i love ted's way of story telling

  • @tirthankarmishra1420
    @tirthankarmishra1420 Před 2 lety +27

    This Thor almost looks like mcu's Thor. Loki has the resemblance too

    • @VoidKing666
      @VoidKing666 Před 2 lety +2

      Exactly! I feel like someone just finished the first few marvel movies.

    • @fr0styboy
      @fr0styboy Před 2 lety +7

      @@VoidKing666 no, the animator chose this art style because a good chunk of people will be able to relate to it.

    • @VoidKing666
      @VoidKing666 Před 2 lety +1

      @@fr0styboy I agrée! I was trying to make a joke, and I’m sorry it didn’t come through.

    • @HalgaDoy
      @HalgaDoy Před 2 lety +2

      I'm getting a bit tired of this version of Thor. He's supposed to be fierce eyed with red beard and hair.

  • @Hmmmmmmmmm....
    @Hmmmmmmmmm.... Před 2 lety +4

    I loved mythologies and how they are so eager to prevent the prophecies by dealing with them which is the first step on how the prophecy can come true...is this some sort of an ancient paradox

  • @unlinedphoton7965
    @unlinedphoton7965 Před 2 lety +6

    amazing animation but one key detail you missed is that odin should have only 1 eye at this point in time

  • @StarBoundFables
    @StarBoundFables Před 2 lety +2

    The art in this myth video was astounding 😃 Thanks for sharing this with us all 🙏🏽

  • @_Dr_Fate
    @_Dr_Fate Před 2 lety +11

    For the people wondering about the rope, the rope is an explanation to why certain things don't exist, because they used it to make the impossible rope, a few ingredients i remember are: a womans beard, the roots of a mountain, the breath of a fish, the milk of a bird

  • @Gaga682
    @Gaga682 Před 2 lety +3

    What Odin feared became a reality trough his own actions. He created his own enemies for Ragnarok. Like Zeus in videogame created Kratos, his own doom. Pretty very strange actions coming from a wisest Nordic God that let it fear guide him.

  • @ximec.r.2643
    @ximec.r.2643 Před 2 lety +4

    It's basically what you'd call a self made prophecy

  • @lodestone8736
    @lodestone8736 Před 2 lety +5

    Little did Odin know that his fear and his action turn into self fulfilling prophecy!

  • @ericpachuau2038
    @ericpachuau2038 Před 2 lety +5

    Part 2 highly recommended.. I don't usually coment but this animation and the story line is perfect highly recommemd part 2 🙏

  • @aeydra
    @aeydra Před 2 lety +4

    This was an amazing lesson, fantastic animation and great narration 👏💕

  • @TheRevanchrist
    @TheRevanchrist Před 2 lety +4

    as one wise turtle once said, "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it."

  • @itsDhiran
    @itsDhiran Před rokem +2

    This is the perfect example of " One often meets his destiny on the way he takes to avoid it"

  • @subhangimaity904
    @subhangimaity904 Před 2 lety +6

    As always , let's just appreciate the animation for a moment...

  • @video-warehouse-s8973
    @video-warehouse-s8973 Před 2 lety +4

    Fun fact, 0:47 is the first animated portrayal of Loki's wife Sigyn, and the only I've ever seen of their sons.

  • @starlightoverlordofninjago6172

    I love myths so much I listen to them everyday, THEY ARE SO FASCINATING!!

  • @SF-li9kh
    @SF-li9kh Před 2 lety +1

    Such wonderful narration. Loved it.

  • @rarafarara
    @rarafarara Před 2 lety +6

    Odin really did that to himself huh

    • @jamaelwilliams8677
      @jamaelwilliams8677 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah if he wasn't so fearful and paranoid none of this would have happened

  • @rowlands_
    @rowlands_ Před 2 lety +3

    0:40 this reminds me of a quote in Neil Gaiman’s “Norse Mythology” book. In the books retelling of the time Loki cut off Sif’s hair Thor says “When something’s wrong I always assume it’s Loki. It saves a lot of time” lmao

  • @youknowho4439
    @youknowho4439 Před 2 lety +24

    "Oh, I love Loki. He's such a good character." His daughter's name is literally Hel. "So?" Okay, that's it.

    • @1995pieter
      @1995pieter Před 2 lety +9

      christains stole or "appropiated" Hel for their own. same with easter, daemons etc.

    • @youknowho4439
      @youknowho4439 Před 2 lety

      @@1995pieter Really? How?

  • @DaneInTheUS
    @DaneInTheUS Před 2 lety +9

    Great video! But I'm puzzled why your Odin still had both eyes?
    Fenrirs story has always made me sad. It's the ultimate betrayal from the only aesir that trusted Fenrir (and vice versa)

  • @whoamI-tl3fv
    @whoamI-tl3fv Před 2 lety +3

    I wanted to make a request, I would love to hear about writer and journalist Clarice Lispector. She really writes with love, attention, affection and her works are simply beautiful.