‘They ruled through fear’: Richard Engel on Hamas' rule in Gaza
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- The Israeli military intensified its attacks on northern Gaza on Monday, battling a regrouped Hamas in areas it said it had cleared and renewing questions over Israeli strategy in the war as the United States issued some of its harshest public criticism yet. Also, a secret Hamas police force in Gaza conducted surveillance on everyday Palestinians and built files on young people, journalists and those who questioned the government, according to NYT reporting. NBC News Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel joins Morning Joe to discuss.
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‘They ruled through fear’: Richard Engel on Hamas' rule in Gaza
#Israel #Hamas #Gaza
Hamas don't care about the people of Palestine, why people can't see this is mind-boggling
Explain how they dont
And under Israel's Hannibal Directive, they are taking care of Israelis or anyone else. There are non so blind as they who WILL NOT SEE. Who murdered more civilians on Oct 7th? Hamas or the IOF?
I think most people object to Hamas, as they object to the mass killings of civilians in Gaza.
@@stickmen7117 its hamas business, they sell palestestinian lives and conspiracy theories.
So Hamas who is the only ruling government voted for by the Palestinian people, and the only organization fighting the nation committing genocide, and is now risking their lives to defend their people, are doing it because? Israel on the other hand, who has killed nearly 40,000 Palestinian people (2/3 babies and women), and wants to continue with the killing of the innocent is better for Palestinians than Hamas? How is Israel better? Everything they had is gone, that includes: Homes, family members, schools, hospitals, jobs, etc. How is Israel the better choice. Who else is doing the defending of Palestinians other than Hamas? Will you allow anyone to come and bomb you and sit there and do nothing? Think before you make such a statement.
I wonder why all the protestors for Gaza are not demonstrating to support the freedom of the Iranian people? Why do you suppose that is?
Because Jewish people are not involved.
A lot of people do, it's just not a big media hit piece like this is
@@boasmiedema8069 There have been videos online of supporters defending Iran and the their right to attack Israel with over 300 rockets
"If Hamas wanted to start a war, they should have secured people first, secured a place of refuge for them, not thrown them into suffering that no one can bear. Palestinians want leaders, who won’t drag people into a war like this. Almost everyone around me shares the same thoughts: We want this waterfall of blood to stop. 17 years of destruction and wars are enough.” Salma El-Qadomi, 33, a freelance journalist, who has been displaced 11xs since the conflict started. WaPo, 29. April 2024
And Egypt is not opening its border! Gosh , that shows how much they love their Muslim brothers..
Egypt not so stupid. It knows Israel won’t allow them back to their homeland in Gaza
@nyerineu3388
That would have telegraphed to Israel something was brewing and ruined it’s Oct 7 surprise.
Besides Hamas doesn’t care about the people of Gaza
@@phillipaclemons7261 that's pure nonsense. Those gazans won't wanna go back to Gaza once the war is over. You probably don't know that the Palestines are considered the lowest cast in the Muslim world.
Hamas, ISIS, Al-Quaeda, etc. They're all the same
Thank you for talking about Hamas and Sinwar for a change. 400+ miles of tunnels that have to be dismantled. The world wants Israel to care more for Gazans than Hamas their supposed leaders do.
I hold Israel and the Israeli people to a higher standard of ethics than Hamas.
You showed part of the list but what about all the efforts of Hamas, or Hezbolluh to terrorize any attempts at peacemaking?
And that’s why you shouldn’t start wars Gazans . You cheered on october 7 right ?
The dominant issue in Palestinian politics is the Palestinian right of return, which is a fake promise made to Arab refugees in 1948, that the Jews would be defeated and everything in Israel would be given to them. The current conflict is still exactly the same, with Hamas promising to fight the Jews until they are defeated. The only road to peace must abandon this Palestinian right of return (which isn't a right at all). All political choices available to Palestinians must include recognition of Israel and must abandon right of return.
What??? No more dancing in the streets...
I guess don't vote or support HAMAS
In the Palestinian legislative election of January 2006, Hamas gained a large majority of seats in the Palestinian Parliament, defeating the ruling Fatah party.
There hasn't been an election since then.
That was 17 years ago. Well over 70% of the population living in the Gaza Strip today were not old enough to vote in that election.
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"MAHA NASSAR: So about half, as you said, is under the age of 18. And 70% of the population living in the Gaza Strip are under the age of 30. So it is an overwhelmingly young population." - NPR Oct 18, 2023
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A 30 year old now, would have been 13 years old when the vote for Hamas was held.
There is no Parliament in Gaza and no opposition party. Hamas has governed as Dictator, with enthusiastic support from Netanyahu
@@jamesbarnes3832 And every poll taken since Oct 7th in Gaza and the West Bank indicate that the Palestinians there support what Hamas did on Oct 7th. So your point is what exactly?
Thou shalt not murder
Thou shalt not covet
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness
Thou shall treat thy neighbor as thyself.
Why didn't you all ten of the Commandments? And read the whole Old Testament, they fought just wars in the Old Testament.
Rules to ignore, unfortunately
@@jamesswain2465
No they didn’t. They genocided all of Canaan too. I guess you haven’t read the Bible.
@@jamesswain2465
Genocide is NEVER just!
@@CowboyConan Was the bombing of German and Japanese cities in WW2 genocide?
If the Palestinians were free to choose their own leadership, would they choose Hamas again?
I don't honestly know. Oct. 7th was incredibly popular in gaza, so I hear. & that's the thing. It's all hearsay from my perspetive.
We don't & can't really have proper insight into the situation. So this line of speculation is, unhelpful.
Yes; they would 100% vote Hamass. Last elections Hamass hot 76% vote. Now they will get 100% vote.
Yes; they would 100% vote Hamass. Last elections Hamass hot 76% vote. Now they will get 100% vote.
@@bluesmody The last election. From 17 years ago. In a country where half the population is under the age of 18.
@bluesmody
In 2006 Hamas won the vote 47% to Fatah 43%. History books say Israel “supported and backed” Hamas to win
Palestinians playing the victim card 🤣
If the show has any credibility; they would invite John Aziz or Ahmed Alkhatib to explain how Hamas has treated their people. Engel is 100% right on them. I loathe Hamas for this reason.
I wish they would have Mosab Hassan Yousef-son of the Hamas founder who defected to Israel and worked in Israeli intelligence. His childhood was horrific.
If you want credibility, you won't find it on MSNBC. Seek other news sources and trust your eyes, not MSM select words.
@@arcticgoddess no Mosab doesn't care about his own people. He needs to have someone there who generally cares for Palestinian people. And at times that means calling Israel out. Mosab been getting plenty of press time.
@arcticgoddess
One problem, he’s a crazy eyes used by Piers Morgan and Jordan Peterson
@@arcticgoddess Lying Loud Mouth Traitor who someday will have to defend his outlandish verbal diarrhea
Why strategy of giving power to a "less HAMAS" always fails ?
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas." -- Ne.tanyahu, 2019
This is the truth. Its been Israels plan all along.
What's your point? Everyone complaining Israel isn't negotiating enough with Palestinian government. They were governing in Gaza. The international community was complaining that Israel is not cooperating enough. It was seen as a way to stop the routine engagements. Mr hindsight here pretends like he knew back than? Further you want to NOW allow Hamas to rule, after knowing. Pathetic.
Yes it was a mistake. How does that change anything now?
It counters the stupid claim that population of Gaza knew and supported Hamas terror on Oct 7. Even little kids apparently
That was Netanyahu's policy. It worked.
"cleared" lol the stupidity and arrogance
I can’t imagine what these citizens are going through. There is nowhere to go that is safe. Hamas has to be overcome and removed. Have no idea how to accomplish that but these poor people 🙏🙏🙏
Blame Egypt, not BB
@@wsbs520 Egypt isnt bombing the Palestinians, Netanyahu is.
@wsbs520 egypt jas working hard diplomatically. Also if you are saying egypt should take one palestinian, please remember palestinian are indigenous to the land and israel can't keep getting away with stealing land. Blame israel for the mistreatment of the Palestinians.
@linguesta no they aren't they are from Egypt and Jordan there has never been a Palestine nation ever show me a map from the last 1000 years that has a country called Palestine you cant
@@raspberryripple88you can blame Israel for bombing Gaza, but you should also blame Hamas for prioritizing attacking Israel rather than administering a functioning government for its people, including distributing aid and social services. It’s not mutually exclusive.
Is this msnbc? Have they found their morals all of a sudden.
Where has this story been since oct 7
They consider him as a GOD but rather as a DEMON
Israel not trying to to learn American war games
The whole world screamed that moving civilians to safe zones was impossible. Look at how easy it is
The de ba'athification that occurred in Iraq was a mistake in a way that the United States dismantled the Military structure when it was supposed to be crucial for its role in peacekeeping during the post-war. For Gaza, it should be a good suggestion that a post-war rule should be led by Saudi Arabia and Jordan.
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas." -- Netanyahu, 2019
Hahahah😂
We have to remember that years ago PLO chairman Yasser Arafat walked away from an attempt at that time to make Palestine a country. Former President Bill Clinton brought together the Israeli Prime Minister at the time along with PLO chairman Yasser Arafat in order to work out a piece agreement. Put great pressure on Israel to agree to the demand of the PLO. A deal was at hand, but the PLO chairman Yasser Arafat walked away because he could not agree to the stipulation that, ‘ Israel had the right to exist.’ Arafat would not agree with this statement, and he walked away from a peace deal.
he should know after all he was the original sponsor of Hanna's
Move to Gaza and post your remarks and bring a sign that says You are a hostage for Hamas has a no return policy and remember to bring your Burka 😅
Sinwar don't surf 😅
Dump Bibi!
Islamism:
- "a political ideology which seeks to enforce Islamic norms as general rules for people's conduct; seek to create a state (ISIS) based on Islamic values and laws (sharia) and rejecting Western guiding principles, such as freedom of opinion, freedom of the press, artistic freedom and freedom of religion"
Lol ..weak
where are you quoting from?
"...Islam (/ˈɪzlɑːm, ˈɪzlæm/ IZ-la(h)m;[7] Arabic: ٱلْإِسْلَام, romanized: al-Islām, IPA: [alʔɪsˈlaːm], lit. 'submission [to the will of God]') is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion centered on the Quran and the teachings of Muhammad, the religion's founder. Adherents of Islam are called Muslims, who are estimated to number approximately 1.9 billion worldwide and are the world's second-largest religious population after Christians.[8]..." - wiki
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"...Islamism (also often called political Islam) is a religio-political ideology. The advocates of Islamism, also known as "al-Islamiyyun", are dedicated to realizing their ideological interpretation of Islam within the context of the state or society. The majority of them are affiliated with Islamic institutions or social mobilization movements, often designated as "al-harakat al-Islamiyyah."[1] Islamists emphasize the implementation of sharia,[2] pan-Islamic political unity,[2] the creation of Islamic states,[3] (eventually unified), and rejection of non-Muslim influences-particularly Western or universal economic, military, political, social, or cultural...." - wiki
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perhaps you should look into Zionism?
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"...Zionism... is a nationalist movement that emerged in the 19th century to enable the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine, a region roughly corresponding to the Land of Israel in Jewish tradition. Following the establishment of the modern state of Israel, Zionism became an ideology that supports the development and protection of the State of Israel as a Jewish state..." - wiki
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Yes. Zionists are Jewish Supremacists. They are racist that believed - and still believe - that they are racially superior to Palestinians. They continue to steal land from the Palestinians ... including for decades land that is part of the State of Palestine and have the protection of Israeli soldiers while stealing and occupying that land illegally.
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"Israel’s systematic dispossession of Palestinians is ongoing today, both in the occupied territories and inside Israel’s internationally recognized pre-1967 borders, where Palestinian citizens of the state and those living under occupation continue to be pushed out of their homes and off their lands - including entire towns - to make way for Jewish citizens and settlers. Today, there are approximately 650,000 Jewish settlers living illegally on occupied Palestinian land in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Israel’s settlement enterprise covers approximately 42% of the West Bank." - imeu website 10/2015
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"The Security Council reaffirmed this afternoon that Israel’s establishment of settlements in Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, had no legal validity, constituting a flagrant violation under international law and a major obstacle to the vision of two States living side-by-side in peace and security, within internationally recognized borders.
Adopting resolution 2334 (2016) by 14 votes, with the United States abstaining, the Council reiterated its demand that Israel immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem. It underlined that it would not recognize any changes to the 4 June 1967 lines, including with regard to Jerusalem, other than those agreed by the two sides through negotiations." - un website 12/2016
Coffee talk with Joey Mossad
Wow that one lady spoke great English…hmm UNWRA worker? Plant?
FYI! Unlike the Vietkong or afghan insurgencies, Hamas have no way to re-equip since Israel has removed Hamas's oxygen pipe - the Rafah crossing and tunnels into Egypt
Just killing the opposite?
Not treaders ?
I like how you guys flip the words
It becomes just like that because no one informs them with the right message about the war and their future.
Watch any interview former president Jimmy Carter ever gave on Palistine Israeli conflict, then go back and watch this segment.
Will take a look
Why? He was biased against Israel. It wouldn’t be balanced and only telling half of the truth.
All Jimmah ever cared about was winning popularity contests with Norwegian prize committees and rehabilitating his image after losing American hostages in the Iranian takeover of our embassy. Then he crashed some American helicopters in the Iranian desert in a botched rescue attempt. He's a nice man, but look to him for leadership and intelligent political opinion at your own peril.
Jimmy had to apologize to israel for his lies 😂 .
I mean anyone who comes here on MSNBS for news has my condolences. Oof.
What does loosing the war stands for?
The US did its job militarily, it did its job Diplomatically. I guess didn't do much job economically. But if we have to base this analysis on past event we can point to a society like Germany after the First World War, who were indeed a democratic, thriving Society, who in a short period of time lived through an expensive devastating war, were imposed choking war reparation, lived through the Great Depression, and a global pandemic like the Spanish Flu.
And no offense, but the US didn't loose the war in Afghanistan, it just withdrew and Abandoned everything they did, when IT WASN'T the people that they worked with who became radicalized, it was the RADICALS who INVADED.
The Taliban governed Afghanistan before the US invasion. They govern again now.
Ok analysis, but no ideas were presented on what to do if the US plan was unacceptable. It seems to me the US plan is still the best option.
It is easy for the US administration to tell Israel to learn from their mistakes. After all, the war they fought were not next door…you need to be, ie live in the Middle East to understand the Middle East. Instead of telling Israel what to do, they need to learn from Israel and focus on the cancer that is now well established at home.
Israeli president said in the beginning that there's no uninvolved civilians in Gaza
Israel finance minister said that returning the hostages is not a priority
It was never about the hostages it's just meaningless revenge
the reality is in Israel the main topic remains the hostages, Israel could have reached the same amount of devastation in Gaza in a couple of days - instead of using some 30 planes using some half of their stock, not moving population or providing aid.. your claim is based on feelings not reality
Mohmed, I realize we all want to believe our religion is correct because it's our religion and we have "Feelings" that make us believe it's correct. I was also raised in a religion that claimed to be the one and only True Religion to which every person needed to adhere and obey. Too many shocking things happened in my life and I had to accept that my religion could not possibly be correct. I encourage you to explore the evidence regarding, for example, The Exodus. Did it ever happen? We all know the evidence shows there was no institutional slavery in Egypt. The evidence also shows there was no "The Exodus."
All the evidence also shows there was no Noah's Ark nor Noah's Flood. None of it happened. You can find videos here on YT that will discuss this and present the evidence. There are also plenty of websites that will guide you to a wealth of evidence proving both The Exodus, and the Noah's Flood never happened.
Please don't hamstring yourself by continuing to believe in a religion. Look up Apostate Aladdin channel and he has a great deal of info
Sure. Israel doesn’t care about hostages. That is why they have agreed to hostage deals and in the past have exchanged many prisoners for each hostage, including sinwar. There are 2 million Arab citizens in Israel who have full rights. Hamas killed Arabs also on Oct 7. Why is it so difficult for you to stop hating Israel and understand that Iran is the problem.
Let us remember that Israel has taken THOUSANDS of Palestinians hostage since OCT 7th!
THOUSANDS of them, but, of course, the Zionist Israeli regime calls them detainees - these are people that have not been charged with any crimes that have been abducted from the State of Palestine and taken to the State of Israel against their will. Many have been humiliated while in captivity. An unknown number have been tortured ...we know this because it is documented that the Israelis have been torturing Palestinians in custody for decades.
Israel has taken THOUSANDS of Palestinians hostage.
Yeah cuz fighting terrorists who hold your people is just “ revenge Z” dang your propaganda is broken
I find it mind boggling when Pro-palestine cries about the suffering when they showed less empathy about the victims Oct.7 and than ignore the fact that they voted in Hamas that also sic their Hezbolla and Houthis friends on israel right after IDF responded to that.I feel they honestly dont care about civillian deaths and just want to serve the agenda of Hamas and Iran.
NO VIEWS FOR REALITY
I love the way Joe asks questions - basically answering his own question while leaving the interviewee only one way to answer. Unless he wants an argument.
DON'T FORGET
In 2019 netenyahu told his Likud colleagues that funding hamas is his strategy
Source "Israeli newspaper Haaretz "
Netanyahu and Putin need to be brought up on ICC Human Rights Violations. Back in 2014 Putin was the first to arm Hamas with Russian stockpiles. He is just as responsible for the deaths of Palestinians and Israelis as Netanyahu!
How does that affect what hamas does today? What is your point?
The idea was to give them political legitimacy so they would behave like a political entity rather than a terror group. It didn't work
Israelis thought that by giving Gazans money and improving their lives it would make them less hostile towards Israel … how naive.. they’ve learned their lesson now…
Net has used Humas as it's asset for years!
Duh!
See who gets censored on the subject and then you will know who's right and who's a liar.
Mordecai Kedar is the only one with the answer on who can lead Gaza.
Proud and noble resistance fighters, as they are known among the college tik tok kids.
Unfortunately
So in other words, what changed, what got the Gazans excited about their leaders, is the heady intoxication of fighting/killing/exterminating Jews from the land.
Israelis learned a lot from the Germans of 1940's. What have they learned you ask? Just ask a Palestinian.
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas." -- Neta.nyahu, 2019
@dbmuir8683 Do you have tourettes?
The * u n and unrwa * are responsible for creating people to terrorize israel and erasing the hopes and dreams of the arab muslim people who have been taken hostage and imprisoned under the disguise of palestinian ! The people who can change that, Must !
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas." -- N.etanyahu, 2019
Hamas started this war, let’s not forget this!
SO KEEL EVERYONE we see the truth FROG
i choose to align with Rose of Sharon and High Priestess (TORAH Scroll) in support of Israel (Original "Song of Songs" found in TORA / TORAH).
Do i have to lean right for you too? --your "my sweetest friend"
What’s the matter China is all your water drying up
Ahh yes, the white western journalist seating comfortably in tel aviv talking about Gaza. How brave 🙄
Showing your own biases. 🙄
His name is Engels What do you expect?
No white, pale-stanian
Western journalists aren’t allowed into Gaza Actually no journalists are allowed. Hmmm wonder why?
@B_tez, the same thing can be said about Palestinian reporters or journalists who aligned their views with pro Hamas.
Many Palestinians still support hamas. Many are hamas. Everyone who is supportive of them should know that.
Beautiful reporting Richard Engel. The best. Thank you.
Cleared of Hamas and massacring women and children are two different things 🤬
But you weren't mad Oct 7th just say you hate jews it's obvious
efore the horrendous attack on Israel by gaza there was a very secret anonymous woman's movement in gaza, there were hundreds of anonymous interviews condemning the brutal treatment of girls and women in gaza, I hope that those interviews will be released to the public particularly to palestinian protestors who are not helping the women and girls in gaza At All by marching for hamass, its like a nightmare for these women in gaza that the western world is contributing to, you have let so many people in gaza down !
who would protect them
The UN.
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"States' obligations under the Genocide Convention
Obligation not to commit genocide (Article I as interpreted by the ICJ)
Obligation to prevent genocide (Article I) which, according to the ICJ, has an extraterritorial scope;
Obligation to punish genocide (Article I);
…" - UN website
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"The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court provides that intentionally starving civilians by “depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including willfully impeding relief supplies” is a war crime." - Human Rights Watch 12/18/2023
"...In 1947 the United Nations accepted the responsibility of finding a just solution for the Palestine issue, and still grapples with this task today." - UN website - situation-in-occupied-palestine-and-israel/history
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The UN moved Peacekeepers into South Korea June 27, 1950, and they are still there today.
Why weren't UN Peacekeepers moved into Palestine decades ago and what is stopping it from happening now that a genocide is happening!?
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The US and small handful of nations at the UN are stopping the UN from taking the actions that are long overdue.
Over 70% of the countries in the UN recognize the State of Palestine as a country.
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"The UN Security Council has begun reconsidering the Palestinian request to become a full member of the global body after a hiatus of 13 years.
The request was initially submitted in September 2011 but talks stalled as the United States, which holds veto power and backs Israel, protested.
..Malta's UN Ambassador Vanessa Frazier, who is the Security Council president for April, told reporters after a closed-door meeting on Monday that talks will be held this month.
US Ambassador to the UN Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Washington's position remains unchanged.
To acquire full membership, the five permanent members of the Security Council must refrain from using their veto and at least nine members must vote in favor. If the application passes, two-thirds or more of the general assembly must then vote to approve the move.
The differences between the United States and Arab countries are expected to deepen over this debate." - NHK 4/9/2024
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More than 2/3rds of the countries in the UN have already recognized the State of Palestine as a country.
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America, Germany, Australia, Canada, Japan, Italy, Mexico, France, the United Kingdom, and South Korea (and others) must officially recognize the State of Palestine as a country through the UN.
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It still is the UN's responsibility to restore peace in the region.
The UN needs to more actively intervene.
The UN needs to send in peacekeeping troops to calm the issue.
The Israeli settlers need to be driven out of their illegal settlements in the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem.
The Israeli military needs to be off the streets of Gaza, the West Bank, and Jerusalem.
This mess was caused by the UN. The UN should clean it up.
I would imagine those people are regretting that vote because Hamas was elected
*18 years ago, before half their population was even born.
@BuildinWings most of our population voted for Obama, that was 17 years ago, no excuse
@@wsbs520 Your diaper is leaking from your mouth.
@@wsbs520and older idiots put Trump in Office, and Obama handed him a booming economy that he eventually destroyed.
@@wsbs520 Do you even understand what I said, or are you struggling with words and their meanings?
Per the reporting here, Hamas has fled underground, yet Israel is still bombing civilians. Think about that.
Majority of Civilians if not all Are HAMAS!!!!
@@ladystrange45 Kids, too? Keep cheering as Israel becomes a pariah state.
Hamas shoots off a few rockets and flees, but 20 minutes later IDF levels the entire neighborhood.
logic is anti semitic
Even worse is Palestinians want more of it in the future.
They do not seek to stop fighting to establish a lasting peace.
They promise more invasions like the October 7 attack that started the war.
They want more.
Quit stumping for AIPAC and start telling the truth about Israel's true goals in Gaza. For starters, let's talk about the Gaza Marine Natural Gas Field. Do a web search and learn the truth.
Conspiracy theorist. Israel wants peace. Imagine being surrounded by Iran and its proxies including a terror group on multiple borders who want to annihilate you.
The * u n and unrwa * are responsible for creating people to terrorize israel and erasing the hopes and dreams of the arab muslim people who have been taken hostage and imprisoned under the disguise of palestinian ! The people who can change that, Must !
Would we have a Hamas if Netanyahu didn’t support them to thwart a two state solution.
Hamas is yet another Iranian terrorist franchise, just like Hezbollah, the Houthis, and various groups in Syria and Iraq. The Middle East has a high birth rate and that creates large numbers of young men without jobs or prospects: easy material for forming terrorist groups if you have money to spend.
Yes, unfortunately
Ironically, there are two states.
The State of Palestine has been around for decades.
Over 70% of the countries in the UN acknowledge it as a country.
It is a non-member observer state in the United Nations.
The only reason it isn't a full member of the UN is because the US has been vetoing the vote for its acceptance to the UN for decades.
The * u n and unrwa * are responsible for creating people to terrorize israel and erasing the hopes and dreams of the arab muslim people who have been taken hostage and imprisoned under the disguise of palestinian ! The people who can change that, Must !
@@jamesbarnes3832 No. Mainly it's not a real state because it wont stop practicing terrorism against innocent Israeli civilians.
An insurgence for years to come can only happen if the insurgents have a supply of weapons. So if the Egyptians were really serious about ending this conflict how difficult can it be to completely seal of a 5 mile border with the Gaza Strip?
"insurgence"?
The State of Palestine is its own country.
"...Palestine, officially the State of Palestine, is a state in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. Founded on 15 November 1988 and officially governed by the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), it claims the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip as its territory, all of which have been Israeli-occupied territories since the 1967 Six-Day War....
...On 15 November 1988 in Algiers, Yasser Arafat, as Chairman of the PLO, issued the Palestinian Declaration of Independence, which established the State of Palestine. A year after the signing of the Oslo Accords in 1993, the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) was formed to govern (in varying degrees) areas A and B in the West Bank, comprising 165 enclaves, and the Gaza Strip...
...The State of Palestine has been recognized by 139 of the 193 UN members and since 2012 has had a status of a non-member observer state in the United Nations..." - wiki
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"Israel’s systematic dispossession of Palestinians is ongoing today, both in the occupied territories and inside Israel’s internationally recognized pre-1967 borders, where Palestinian citizens of the state and those living under occupation continue to be pushed out of their homes and off their lands - including entire towns - to make way for Jewish citizens and settlers. Today, there are approximately 650,000 Jewish settlers living illegally on occupied Palestinian land in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Israel’s settlement enterprise covers approximately 42% of the West Bank." - imeu website 10/2015
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"The Security Council reaffirmed this afternoon that Israel’s establishment of settlements in Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, had no legal validity, constituting a flagrant violation under international law and a major obstacle to the vision of two States living side-by-side in peace and security, within internationally recognized borders.
Adopting resolution 2334 (2016) by 14 votes, with the United States abstaining, the Council reiterated its demand that Israel immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem. It underlined that it would not recognize any changes to the 4 June 1967 lines, including with regard to Jerusalem, other than those agreed by the two sides through negotiations." - un website 12/2016
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"The UN Security Council has begun reconsidering the Palestinian request to become a full member of the global body after a hiatus of 13 years.
The request was initially submitted in September 2011 but talks stalled as the United States, which holds veto power and backs Israel, protested.
..Malta's UN Ambassador Vanessa Frazier, who is the Security Council president for April, told reporters after a closed-door meeting on Monday that talks will be held this month.
US Ambassador to the UN Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Washington's position remains unchanged.
To acquire full membership, the five permanent members of the Security Council must refrain from using their veto and at least nine members must vote in favor. If the application passes, two-thirds or more of the general assembly must then vote to approve the move.
The differences between the United States and Arab countries are expected to deepen over this debate." - NHK 4/9/2024
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America, Germany, Australia, Canada, Japan, Italy, Mexico, France, the United Kingdom, and South Korea (and others) must officially recognize the State of Palestine as a country through the UN.
How does she speak English so well🧐
They have.... had.... universities and schools.
Education. America might want to look into teaching their young as well maybe we wouldn't all support genocide just coz Morning Joe is into it
You think it’s Palewood? Using that excuse to waive off the humanitarian disaster is ethically reprehensible.
1. Haifa Massacre 1937
2. Jerusalem Massacre 1937
3. Haifa Massacre 1938.
4. Balad al-Sheikh Massacre 1939
5. Haifa Massacre 1939
6. Haifa Massacre 1947
7. Abbasiya Massacre 1947
8. Al-Khisas Massacre 1947
9. Bab al-Amud Massacre 1947
10. Jerusalem Massacre 1947
11. Sheikh Bureik Massacre 1947
12. Tantura Massacre 1948
13. Jaffa Massacre 1948
14. Khan Yunis Massacre 1956
15. Jerusalem Massacre 1967
16. Sabra and Shatila Massacre 1982
17. Al-Aqsa Massacre 1990
18. Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre 1994
19. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
20. Gaza Massacre 2008-09
21. Gaza Massacre 2012
22. Gaza Massacre 2014
23. Gaza Massacre 2018-19
24. Gaza Massacre 2021
25. Gaza Genocide 2023 is still ongoing
DONT LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU THAT IT STARTED ON OCTOBER 7th
PLEASE REPOST
True
Don't forget the brutal and genocidal apartheid stealing and occupation of Palestinian lands and people for more than 7 decades 🙄 Don't be fooled bc it never started on October 7th😏
I'm glad you posted this, but can you provide more info about each event. It's difficult to know who massacred who, given Oct 7 in itself was a genocide against Israelis by hamas.
Every single one of your list was a response to an attack by Arab and Palestinian groups against Israel.
Shame on Israel and Washington
FAFO
80% supported hummus... dancing in the streets on 10/7. Don't boohoo now
Nice Disney skull.
jews dancing on rooftops 9/11
@@CabalNewsNetwork👈 when deflection is all you've got 💤💤
And Trump is guilty.
@@sircasm6578 So do you go to rainbow days at the park, or are you more of a Moana guy?
This is the most rational news I've seen on MSNBS since 2016. I may resubscribe.
The comments here suggest that Israel may have lost the support of the internet. Doesn't real fit with the very vanilla piece playing out above😅
80% of Americans support Israel in its war against Hamas, new poll shows. A recent Harvard CAPS-Harris poll, surveying over 2,300 American voters, has illuminated strong backing for Israel in its ongoing conflict with Hamas, particularly in the aftermath of the October 7 attack.24 Jan 2024
Actually the comments suggest exactly the opposite
Does Engel work for Israel’s propaganda machine?
I would advise any pro-Palestinian protester to watch this.
The State of Palestine is a country.
Israel is been messing with the politics of the State of Palestine for decades.
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"...Palestine, officially the State of Palestine, is a state in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. Founded on 15 November 1988 and officially governed by the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), it claims the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip as its territory, all of which have been Israeli-occupied territories since the 1967 Six-Day War....
...On 15 November 1988 in Algiers, Yasser Arafat, as Chairman of the PLO, issued the Palestinian Declaration of Independence, which established the State of Palestine. A year after the signing of the Oslo Accords in 1993, the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) was formed to govern (in varying degrees) areas A and B in the West Bank, comprising 165 enclaves, and the Gaza Strip...
...The State of Palestine has been recognized by 139 of the 193 UN members and since 2012 has had a status of a non-member observer state in the United Nations..." - wiki
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That's 70% of the countries at the UN that have acknowledged the State of Palestine for decades.
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"...In 1947 the United Nations accepted the responsibility of finding a just solution for the Palestine issue, and still grapples with this task today." - UN website - situation-in-occupied-palestine-and-israel/history
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The UN moved Peacekeepers into South Korea June 27, 1950, and they are still there today.
Why weren't UN Peacekeepers moved into Palestine decades ago and what is stopping it from happening now that a genocide is happening!?
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The US and small handful of nations at the UN are stopping the UN from taking the actions that are long overdue.
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"The UN Security Council has begun reconsidering the Palestinian request to become a full member of the global body after a hiatus of 13 years.
The request was initially submitted in September 2011 but talks stalled as the United States, which holds veto power and backs Israel, protested.
..Malta's UN Ambassador Vanessa Frazier, who is the Security Council president for April, told reporters after a closed-door meeting on Monday that talks will be held this month.
US Ambassador to the UN Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Washington's position remains unchanged.
To acquire full membership, the five permanent members of the Security Council must refrain from using their veto and at least nine members must vote in favor. If the application passes, two-thirds or more of the general assembly must then vote to approve the move.
The differences between the United States and Arab countries are expected to deepen over this debate." - NHK 4/9/2024
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More than 2/3rds of the countries in the UN have already recognized the State of Palestine as a country.
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America, Germany, Australia, Canada, Japan, Italy, Mexico, France, the United Kingdom, and South Korea (and others) must officially recognize the State of Palestine as a country through the UN.
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It still is the UN's responsibility to restore peace in the region.
The UN needs to more actively intervene.
The UN needs to send in peacekeeping troops to calm the issue.
The Israeli settlers need to be driven out of their illegal settlements in the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem.
The Israeli military needs to be off the streets of Gaza, the West Bank, and Jerusalem.
This mess was caused by the UN. The UN should clean it up.
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Once the Israeli Zionists aren't able to terrorize the citizens of the State of Palestine, then the UN can help getting free and fair elections going on in the State of Palestine.
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In case you forgot, ...
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"Israel’s systematic dispossession of Palestinians is ongoing today, both in the occupied territories and inside Israel’s internationally recognized pre-1967 borders, where Palestinian citizens of the state and those living under occupation continue to be pushed out of their homes and off their lands - including entire towns - to make way for Jewish citizens and settlers. Today, there are approximately 650,000 Jewish settlers living illegally on occupied Palestinian land in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Israel’s settlement enterprise covers approximately 42% of the West Bank." - imeu website 10/2015
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"The Security Council reaffirmed this afternoon that Israel’s establishment of settlements in Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, had no legal validity, constituting a flagrant violation under international law and a major obstacle to the vision of two States living side-by-side in peace and security, within internationally recognized borders.
Adopting resolution 2334 (2016) by 14 votes, with the United States abstaining, the Council reiterated its demand that Israel immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem. It underlined that it would not recognize any changes to the 4 June 1967 lines, including with regard to Jerusalem, other than those agreed by the two sides through negotiations." - un website 12/2016
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"Hamas said the attack was retribution for what it described as attacks on women, the desecration of the al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem and the ongoing siege of Gaza." - CNN 10/11/23
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"Hamas has said it was motivated to launch the attack essentially as the culmination of long-building anger over Israeli policy, including recent outbreaks of violence at the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, but more generally over the treatment of Palestinians and the expansion of Israeli settlements." - CBS News 10/25/2023
IDF is YT supremacy
Gaza was self-ruled since 2005 and look what happened.
Self ruled? Ur mental
It was occupied by Israel from 2005
"...Palestine, officially the State of Palestine, is a state in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. Founded on 15 November 1988 and officially governed by the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), it claims the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip as its territory, all of which have been Israeli-occupied territories since the 1967 Six-Day War....
...On 15 November 1988 in Algiers, Yasser Arafat, as Chairman of the PLO, issued the Palestinian Declaration of Independence, which established the State of Palestine. A year after the signing of the Oslo Accords in 1993, the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) was formed to govern (in varying degrees) areas A and B in the West Bank, comprising 165 enclaves, and the Gaza Strip...
...The State of Palestine has been recognized by 139 of the 193 UN members and since 2012 has had a status of a non-member observer state in the United Nations..." - wiki
@@phillipaclemons7261 No!
REMINDER: The Gaza people elected and re-elected the bloodthirsty terrorist Hamas as their leader several times since 2006.
Did you listen to the interview? Hamas is corrupt and killed the opposition. Palestinians' lives are miserable between hamas and Israeli government. Two extremist groups who are focused on land rather life quality.
Khamas on 7 oct:
"REMINDER: the israelis voted the bloodthirsty extremists as their goverment several times"
wrong.
REMINDER the last election in Gaza was 2006. Hamas won 47% to Fatah 43%
Israel supported and backed Hamas to win
@@jamesbarnes3832 Google it.
Circa 2028
i am happy someone actually mentions the fact the unwra is de-facto the civilian government - while Hamas is just a military militia - mostly - saying facts helps dispel misinformation
Israel looting Palestinian Shemfull Israel do to Syria
"We won every battle but we lost the war." What a bunch of horse $hit lies.
Richard Engel is a propagandist. He acts like he's doing god's work which makes him revolting.
What is his propaganda?
The far left won't like this 😂😂
Islamofascism
This could just as easily be about Joe Biden as it was about Jimmy Carter.
Carter left a legacy of frustration and fecklessness that has been difficult for Democrats to shake. He is remembered for the Iran hostage crisis that consumed the last year of his presidency. He is remembered for his hapless struggles against inflation, high gas prices and the threat of oncoming recession - not to mention an aggressive Russian war machine invading a neighboring country in defiance of the world community
All the more proof that these men,women and children are innocent victims of their Hamas and IDF occupiers. Shouldn't we be doing all we can to end this nightmare for these poor people?
"States' obligations under the Genocide Convention
Obligation not to commit genocide (Article I as interpreted by the ICJ)
Obligation to prevent genocide (Article I) which, according to the ICJ, has an extraterritorial scope;
Obligation to punish genocide (Article I);
…" - UN website
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"The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court provides that intentionally starving civilians by “depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including willfully impeding relief supplies” is a war crime." - Human Rights Watch 12/18/2023
"...In 1947 the United Nations accepted the responsibility of finding a just solution for the Palestine issue, and still grapples with this task today." - UN website - situation-in-occupied-palestine-and-israel/history
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The UN moved Peacekeepers into South Korea June 27, 1950, and they are still there today.
Why weren't UN Peacekeepers moved into Palestine decades ago and what is stopping it from happening now that a genocide is happening!?
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The US and small handful of nations at the UN are stopping the UN from taking the actions that are long overdue.
Over 70% of the countries in the UN recognize the State of Palestine as a country.
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"The UN Security Council has begun reconsidering the Palestinian request to become a full member of the global body after a hiatus of 13 years.
The request was initially submitted in September 2011 but talks stalled as the United States, which holds veto power and backs Israel, protested.
..Malta's UN Ambassador Vanessa Frazier, who is the Security Council president for April, told reporters after a closed-door meeting on Monday that talks will be held this month.
US Ambassador to the UN Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Washington's position remains unchanged.
To acquire full membership, the five permanent members of the Security Council must refrain from using their veto and at least nine members must vote in favor. If the application passes, two-thirds or more of the general assembly must then vote to approve the move.
The differences between the United States and Arab countries are expected to deepen over this debate." - NHK 4/9/2024
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More than 2/3rds of the countries in the UN have already recognized the State of Palestine as a country.
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America, Germany, Australia, Canada, Japan, Italy, Mexico, France, the United Kingdom, and South Korea (and others) must officially recognize the State of Palestine as a country through the UN.
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It still is the UN's responsibility to restore peace in the region.
The UN needs to more actively intervene.
The UN needs to send in peacekeeping troops to calm the issue.
The Israeli settlers need to be driven out of their illegal settlements in the West Bank and eastern Jerusalem.
The Israeli military needs to be off the streets of Gaza, the West Bank, and Jerusalem.
This mess was caused by the UN. The UN should clean it up.
This is a genocide.
""Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Approved and proposed for signature and ratification or accession by
General Assembly resolution 260 A (III) of 9 December 1948
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Article I
The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in
time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to
punish.
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
..." - UN website
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"States' obligations under the Genocide Convention
Obligation not to commit genocide (Article I as interpreted by the ICJ)
Obligation to prevent genocide (Article I) which, according to the ICJ, has an extraterritorial scope;
Obligation to punish genocide (Article I);
…" - UN website
Yes, hamas is genocidal and they attempted a genocide. Israel is trying to end the genocide
Oct 7th was genocide....let's not forget that....
@@user-gw7is2ux3t of course not. But we are at over 30,000 dead in Gaza in response, an overwhelming number made mostly of women and children. Israel's government refuses deals to get hostages back and are committing atrocities well more than 30x what Hamas did. P.S Hamas is not the same as Palestine, just as the KKK is not the USA.
Hamas is genocidal for sure
A very good movie to watch is The battle of Algiers.
Elections in gaza and pray they don't vote for hamas. Stuff gonna get awful uncomfortable if they elect hamas.
The elections would be for the State of Palestine.
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"...Palestine, officially the State of Palestine, is a state in the Southern Levant region of West Asia. Founded on 15 November 1988 and officially governed by the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), it claims the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip as its territory, all of which have been Israeli-occupied territories since the 1967 Six-Day War....
...On 15 November 1988 in Algiers, Yasser Arafat, as Chairman of the PLO, issued the Palestinian Declaration of Independence, which established the State of Palestine. A year after the signing of the Oslo Accords in 1993, the Palestinian National Authority (PNA) was formed to govern (in varying degrees) areas A and B in the West Bank, comprising 165 enclaves, and the Gaza Strip...
...The State of Palestine has been recognized by 139 of the 193 UN members and since 2012 has had a status of a non-member observer state in the United Nations..." - wiki
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Western media, Israel, and the few countries that support Israel against the State of Palestine keep wanting to try to ignore the fact that the State of Palestine is a country.
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"The UN Security Council has begun reconsidering the Palestinian request to become a full member of the global body after a hiatus of 13 years.
The request was initially submitted in September 2011 but talks stalled as the United States, which holds veto power and backs Israel, protested.
..Malta's UN Ambassador Vanessa Frazier, who is the Security Council president for April, told reporters after a closed-door meeting on Monday that talks will be held this month.
US Ambassador to the UN Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Washington's position remains unchanged.
To acquire full membership, the five permanent members of the Security Council must refrain from using their veto and at least nine members must vote in favor. If the application passes, two-thirds or more of the general assembly must then vote to approve the move.
The differences between the United States and Arab countries are expected to deepen over this debate." - NHK 4/9/2024
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America, Germany, Australia, Canada, Japan, Italy, Mexico, France, the United Kingdom, and South Korea (and others) must officially recognize the State of Palestine as a country through the UN.
Australia recognises Palestine and, along with 142 other countries, voted for it to be a full member of the UN
Nice of MSNBC to consult a westerner to know what Palestinians think.
Playing the race card
Finally a journalist who is speaking truth.
If all israelis are equal and democratic state, why are only jews given the right of self determination in the state law?🤔
In Israel, an Arab judge sent an Israeli president to jail.
In Israel, Arabs vote in elections, serve in the government, have mosques, businesses, newspapers and civic organizations.
Jews have none of those things in Gaza or the West Bank.
Arabs, Christians and Druze living in Israel proper are full citizens. There are Arab ministers and judges. Please stop being sooo ignorant.
Also what happened to the huge populations are Jews living in Arab countries? They were expelled with no right to return to their homes and lands. There are more Arabs living in Israel proper than Jews in all Arab countries combined.
@@user-xh8zp6ht2b actually once the state of israel was created most of them moved there. The ones expelled were after the 1948 war when there was tension between the countries.
@@user-xh8zp6ht2b That wasn't my question.
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Hamas. Isreal's creation and Isreal funded....
Sure keep believing that. Israel forced the Palestinians to vote for Hamas.
NOTTTTTTT started in the Muslim brotherhood in 1928!!! We know the truth now!!!!
Israel needs new leadership
Palestine needs to pick better leaders. Elections have consequences.
You support a prez that showered with his daughter (she now confirmed it)..so not sure you should be giving advice on leadership
@@markcosenza3274 then Israel should end the occupation, allow the Palestinians full autonomy and self-determination, let them elect the leaders that THEY want, not some corrupt puppet supported by the US. This conflict did not begin with Hamas, and since half the population of Gaza is under the age of 18, they didnt vote for Hamas at the last elections in 06 anyway. Hamas was a reaction to the occupation, not the cause of it. Therefore, end the occupation and give the Palestinians full autonomy and self-determination, and Hamas cease to have a purpose.
Yes they do
@@rebeccalaff853 Bibi is under indictment from his own people. Get Babbitt'd
Kind of like what Democrats did during COVID. 🤔🤔🤷♀🤷♀
You do realize that Trump was president when COVID hit us, right? 🤦♂
@@rahimmajid647 you do realize the President has no control over what Governors do in their states, right? 🤔🤔🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@rahimmajid647remember Sanctuary Cities Democrats started to keep Trump from deporting illegals.
Not really, Dems solved it.
@@rahimmajid647 how did he make it more difficult than the lock downs and curfews that destroyed small business. Vax passports, limits on how many people could be in a building, and forcing all the ridiculous measures like the clear plastic at checkout counters? 😆😆🤷♀️🤷♀️
Just like Bibi.
What’s the matter? Is your water flowing backwards and the fish are coming up
The same thing the Israeli people with with Netanyahu rule by fear and hate thy neighbor
Stop with your lies. 20 % of the people of Israel are Arab (and who are mostly Muslims), who hold seats in parliament, sit on the Supreme Court, are doctors and lawyers, etc. Tell us how many Jews live freely and peacefully in Gaza or the surrounding Arab states?
"Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.".
Engel's analogy is irrelevant. Iraq and Afghanistan were independent nations. Gaza was an open air prison camp that Israel allowed to be ruled by the inmates. And not one word on the surety that Israel has created thousands of recruits for Hamas. Killing a fellow's family tends to radicalize people somehow. Who would have guessed?
The State of Palestine is decades old and recognized by 70% of the countries in the UN.
The only reason it isn't a full member of the UN is because the US keeps vetoing the vote for it's acceptance as a full member of the UN.
The State of Palestine IS a country.
Notice how he says the “Gazan” people instead of the Palestinian people. Another way to erase their identity.
But technically they are Gazans. If someone says I'm Jamaican which i am, it doesn't erase my identity as a Black person.
Stupid point.
They are citizens of the State of Palestine.
The State of Palestine is acknowledged by over 70% of the countries in the UN.
The US has been vetoing the vote for the State of Palestine to become a full member of the UN for decades!
Palestinians can also be from the West Bank. To be Gazan is much more specific. Gaza Palestinians only.
Palestinian is not an ethnicity, their ethnicity is Arabs and they live in Gaza so Gazans is fine. People who line in Florida are referred to as Floridians, what’s your problem? Who is erasing what?