Zeroed In Episode 1 | Set Pieces | Sniper Elite 5
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- čas přidán 10. 02. 2023
- In this video I take a look back at the various set pieces of Sniper Elite.
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Even if they just add reinforcement segments I'd be happy. One thing that was great about Deathstorm 3 in SE4 was that even if you cleared the whole town out, more soldiers would pour in after the facility blew up. They didn't immediately come in guns blazing, they were there to just make the exfil harder. Same type of thing happened in Lorino Dockyard with the tanks and Magazzeno with the additional Jager when the radar exploded. The only time reinforcements show up in 5 is with the alarms and those things are super easy to destroy. Definitely think reinforcement segments would work well in Sniper Elite 5
Indeed, when my friend and I play co-op, we intentionally let the alarms sound just so we have more to do.
True... SE4 gave us end-game counter-attacks on Magazzeno & Lorino!
I also miss the bone chilling sound you hear when a sniper starts to see you in SE3 and you don’t know where he is.
Yeah that's the best in the series of all the sniper alerts. SE3 got a lot of things right.
i agree & in SE3 Ratte Factory ending with a bang with the Ratte Tank leaving the base
Also the dlc on se4 had an excellent end game. Obliteration. I saved all the collected explosives and set traps all over the level. Twas glorious and kept the enjoyment going
A very valid comment.
I like 4 & 5 a lot, but they do need a mission or two where there is an escalation at the end.
Hey man, great vid. This just makes me miss SE3! I think we are all suffering from console transition. When I played ZA4, I was so impressed with so many new mechanics on that game, I thought Se5 would be so far ahead of 4. But honestly, for a few things here and there, it's pretty much the same. The only really noticeable thing issue on Se5, is that the maps are really so big, really makes you wish you could get on those Nazi bikes and drive across the map a little faster. That said, I really hope SE6 is exclusive to next gen consoles, and that they really, really go out there with such a rich game, that we won't believe how awesome it is.
I agree 100% here, SE6 really needs to leave the old consoles behind. They are holding the game back.
I think they could perharps make a enhanced version for people who would like that kind of thing. But for people like me who are stuck with a ps4 for now they could do a lowered graphics etc to suit them
Nice one Brutal! The Villa at San Celini in SE4 would have been another great one to defend against a counter-attack at the end of the mission...
I think the fight with the partisans in Bitanti Village in SE4 was an example of a great (sort of) set-piece that could take place mid-mission - you didn't have to even stay and fight with the partisans in order to complete any particular objectives, but I'm betting that most players usually did!
The absence of Rangers in SE5 was definitely kinda lame, especially at the end of Liberation, when Karl is spearheading an attack on behalf of... no-one lol
It would have been great to have a mission fighting alongside the Rangers!
Yeah fully agree, the endings are pretty wet, only thing keeping me interested in SE5 now is Axis Invasion. A really good example of what you’re saying is the ending to Obliteration, Deathstorm 3. You think you’re there when you destroy the reactor, but no! Heaps of bad guys and armour descend upon you. Exfil is a hard task in itself!
Ah Deathstorm 3 **stares up lovingly into the sky** what a fantastic mission. I agree, I absolutely love Invasion mode. I love invading but I prefer to be invaded. It adds so much more to the campaign, so much so playing Sniper Elite 4 just feels a little empty now.
@@BrutalBarracuda It’s the planning for invasions that I love. Knowing that after a certain period the invader will turn up. What tactics will you use? Where will you go? I love setting up overwatch positions and luring them into my field of view, e.g. shooting an explosive. To get round the boredom of having to blow up AA guns, how about getting the invader to do it for you? I’ve made some epic trap lines with mines and TNT leading to satchel charges on AA guns… boom boom boom boom BOOOM! Hell that’s fun. Landing Force is good for that trick. But when you get an invader who’s wise to all this malarkey, that’s when it’s really tough and those long cat & mouse battles ensue where the outcome is very, very uncertain…
I fully agree BB. The missions all went out with a whimper not a bang.
Flipping the subject though. I do think some missions could begin with a stealthy insertion (no unconscious/ killed trips) by pass all guards/ personnel with a fake ID to (for instance) kill Hitler/ Goring/ Himmler/ extract a prisoner. And stealthily (or by bluff) get the prisoner out of the castle/ barracks/ facility without anyone knowing.
Or maybe doing an extraction mission like the Chris Hemsworth movie where Fairbourne can only do silent (hand to hand or knife kills) to complete the mission?
Any alert/ alarm that goes off (regardless of the level) means you go back to the start.
Yeah I'd like a mission where Karl maybe is captured and locked up, has no weapons, has to escape, and getting spotted ends the mission. Something really different.
Totally. I was well pissed to find they'd dropped the 'infiltrating in trucks' feature that we saw Karl do in the trailer!
What the game needs to do is give you high-risk / high-reward options. Really tough infiltration options... to get you to a point that gives you a really commanding view of the map, so that your stealthing really pays off! And then keep you on your toes with spotters and snipers, so you have to stay on top of things...
@@BrutalBarracuda Sounds good! Not sure about getting spotted ending it though..? I think the ideal SE should give you possible ways to get out of any sticky situation...
The lack of open map design and interesting new gameplay features are honestly baffling
Especially the stealth and enemy vehicles. But I’ve already gon in depth as to why I feel this way in another one of your videos comment section and i don’t have the patience to type aaaaaalllllll that again.
(His “up close and personal” dlc overview if you where wondering)
There are 77 comments on that video so I doubt it will be that hard to find it
You aren't wrong in the least about this. A greater sense of danger, higher stakes, gets your blood pumping, cold sweats, its time to hold off waves! In a sense, by incorporating such elements into specific missions (preferably the latter ones which just makes more sense), this in turn allows players to get comfortable with Invasion as an additional play option.
Still however, truly the one thing that NEEDS to be brought back that has been sorely missed throughout the entirety of SE5, are the tripwire trap mines. Those were a go to for me, I'd just set them up all over the place at random just to cause havoc & chaos.
Sniper Elite is the best in my opinion right from the beginning. I think SE6 will probably be war in the Pacific as SE5 was flooded with Rising Sun flags..but what I would like to see is a prequel to ww2 with ww1 starting in Belguim. You could pick being French, Scottish, or English assisting Irish, Canadian, Russian or German troops. I want to be going over the top in all weather doing night raids, digging tunnels, planting explosives etc, real accurate to the battles. Drive a tank, ride a horse and motorcycle, setup barb wire, maybe rescue wounded comrades,, etc.. Make it so it can be played offline, battles like Loos, Verdun, Somme, Ypre, Mons, Hill 70,etc..anyway in 1917 or 1918 a young Carl Fairburn shows up with the doughboys and makes his mark on the western front before its all over. Battlefield 1 did well, but I am one of many who hates playing online. Respawning only to be assassinated by someone repeatedly is a waste of time. Battlefield 1 missed the mark there, and someone needs to correct it.. If Sniper Elite did ww1 I know it would be epic and I know it's a worthy undertaking. Best wishes to all.
I think adding mid level reinforcements would be interesting. After 20 minutes or so guard shifts would change or Non specific enemies would respawn for specific areas to repopulate the map. Thus putting importance on hiding bodies and not making the map feel empty near the end.
Great Video!! I Hope the developers at Rebellion see this video. 🙌🏼🍺
i fully agree with this
Couldn't agree more.
Considering I only started playing this game series on SE4 and now SE5 I would not have known this about SE3. I do agree, they could have made the ending a little more exciting. Definitely something Rebellion should consider for Season 2 DLC or if there will be a SE6.
Yes I really enjoy the game, I've played all the sires and it dose seam to be getting easier. Authentic + please 🙏 And a Bang at the end.
SE5 is definitely the easiest Sniper Elite game yet. Bring on Authentic Plus!
Looking forward in the near future they come with Sniper Elite 3 remastered.
I don't think it needs a remaster, but imagine a remake. SE5 size maps set in Africa, I would de down for that!
@BrutalBarracuda i agree 👍🏻👍🏻
Great point. I hadn't really noticed it. But it's completely right that the SE5 missions end with a whimper.
Even on SE4 the only one I can think of that had a decent ending was Allegra Fortress (?) where you had to shoot the plane down before matey boy escaped.
Great video 👍
I’ve got a few things I think the game could do better in future dlc or change in updates.
I think se5 suffers from the lack of friendly ai, the second and second to last missions in se4 had small ai shootouts that added good verity.
I also think they should rework the way enemies can see you in the dark or in shadows, right now there’s no reason to shoot out lights or turn the power out with fuse box’s. In se4 if you walked from a well lit to a darker area the circle on the mini map that showed you how far enemies could see you would shrink significantly but in se5 shadows barely change the circle size at all.
I really like the fuse boxes as an idea but they just alert all the enemies and don’t really give you any advantage.
The lighting in SE5 seems weird as hell. Shoot out lights, and the areas remain somehow still lit up. Is light purely cosmetic? Makes no sense for a stealth game! And why oh why can't we snuff out candles ffs!
Yes, definitely more interacting with friendly Ai is needed! I'd gladly see every single 'cinematic' cut scene ditched in favour of this... Working with Ai allies adds motivation, and increases immersion IMO!
@@Nifter71 exactly this, sometimes you shoot a light and the room will still be well lit but then sometimes it will make the room pitch black but won’t affect how enemies can see you.
It’s kinda surprising because the lighting and shadow system in se4 worked fine.
Hi I think all sniper elite games should have more missions and dlc levels
i agree
even the last DLC mission of SE4 had that...destroy the underground base (not the hunting hilter one) and when u do, a ton of soldiers come flooding in and you gotta escape thru the whole city evading and killing the germans.
and they bring in tanks an stuff too
def would be more fun. AGree the endings of SE5 are kinda boring
I don't agree that the missions should end with a bang. Now the levels are so big, that, if you take time and try some different approaches, it can really be a big chunk of time spend in there. I wouldn't want to have a forced event at the end to try to squeeze in some more excitement, when I already did a good days work. I really enjoy playing the game the way I want and not the game dictating what I have to do when.
But here is a thought. I would really like to have optional objectives influence the game more. And even over multiple missions. Like if you kill all enemy snipers then later you would face less snipers. Or if you don't take out all tanks you'll face more of them later. And I would even argue to make some objectives closing others off (if you complete objective A you can't complete objective B). I want the game to react to the way I'm playing - like if you play all stealthy then later the enemies should be on higher allert - while if you always go loud, then they wouldn't need to be on guard as much. That could make the game more fun to replay in different styles or encourage to try different tactics.
All gr8 ideas. Some should end with a bang AND most should follow a plan like u say. Do this 1st and take out all snipers then think u got it easy but didn't take out the radios so enemy called in their major Master Sniper clan and now u go around thinking I got this crap now and bang, flesh wound now urr in trouble. This is what made 3 and 4 so good.
Couldn't agree more BB sir
I found SE 5 a little easy on Authentic so I always let them sound the alarm so reinforcements come into play and it gets more interesting for me.
Sniper elite 3 looks beautiful
Sniper Elite 3 is a fantastic looking game, even 9 years later! 👍
@@BrutalBarracuda I've played SE4 and SE5 but I liked SE4 a lot
SE3 is my next game and I hop I like it 🙏🏻
@@leonenero9929u will 😊
@@EliteFuller I played it recently and it's really good 👌🏻
There are some areas I feel SE5 is lacking. The fine movement is rigid and a bit of a pain. Like when you're trying to pick something up off of a table or search a downed enemy, I've had it only let me do those things with my back to the item/object or enemy. I'm just playing campaign mode on SE5 and while I like it, I do agree, the endings are a bit underwhelming.
Yeah picking things up can certainly be a little bit jank sometimes 👍
Just gone and played SE3 again. Speaking of which, could you do a thing on an explanation for the weapons parts please. I totally agree about the set pieces. Peace.
I completely agree on this. Despite this fact I still love the newest installment of the game due to the massive maps we are dropped in. And to be honest Spy academy, for me at least, wasn't a easy walk in the park.
I hated spy academy
Yeah Sniper Elite 5 is a fantastic game still.
I agree
It could be that the addition of Axis Invasion put pay to the big finales. Most of the big endings put you in a specific place, with limited room to manoeuvre, so any invaders could get easy pickings. Obviously they could get around this by dumping the invader if Karl gets to those points, but just putting it out there as a theory.
Yeah well at the moment we cant invade if Karl is on his final objective anyway so as long as these set pieces are at the end then it would be fine.
@@BrutalBarracuda I didn't actually know that, but then I should have as I've never invaded anyone near the end. Apart from Rubble & Ruin as you have to get to him before he makes it to the sewer.
Agree completely. I love the SE series, but it seems like each version gets simpler and easier, less re-playable, with very little end-game interest.
Hello Mr. Barracuda just got sniper elite 5 a few days ago and loaded up the first mission. And then got invaded and killed twice by you! I didn't have a clue what I was doing, there was a point where we were both at a stalemate. Honestly though it was incredibly fun being hunted, it was different for sure. We might meet again someday.
🤣🤣 Sorry about that. Theres no way to choose who to play against, it often puts me into games with new players. Maybe you'll get me next time! 👍 Remember, when you get invaded to use your focus mode, the border of the mini map will show you whatever direction the invader is. Unless the invader is close in which case the whole thing will flash.
@@BrutalBarracuda Ya I eventually figured it out 😂 not quick enough tho it was still fun despite getting my ass handed to me😂
I would also like to see a return of the scope kill.
Technically the scope kill is in SE5. Ive had it come up actually saying scope kill, but its looks rubbish, nothing like the SE4 scope kill.
I've spent more time trying to set up a perfect scope kill and all that happens in kill cam is bullet sparks off scope. Especially in 2nd mission. Where u gotta get into his office. I've tagged both snipers, killed enemy to set up shot and have been within 100 meters or 50 even and had the 1903 16 power zoom to make sure I got it and same thing, bullet sparks when hitting scope. I am glad that I was able to get a shotgun kill at 260m. That was great but some things just made 3, 4 a great game. I know we have to expand and sometimes things get cut out but it's a SNIPER GAME. We all know of the greatest Marine sniper that ever lived, Carlos Hathcock made thus shot in real life. He held longest record for over 40 years and he didn't use a modern sniper rifle, he mounted a unertil scope on a M2 50 cal and put on single shot and shot a vietkong at 2400 meters plus. Simon didn't use a scope at all, great sniper, ladies in USSR great snipers. Some things just can't be taken out of a game series. Scope kills and animations is 1 of them. Love this series and I know we was all effected by the scary 🤒 so things got messed up. I bet without that BS game would've been even better.
I dont know if this counts but i remeber completing the objectives on sniper elite 4 deathstorm 3 and then a ton of enemies turn up and you have to fight through them to escape. I just realised the person below me has written the same thing oops😅.
When will LMG get added (Bren, Lewis, Bar)
So many good ideas... would really improve the game. I loved 5 but ending the missions was boring. Please god Rebellion developer's see this and put it in the mix for 6 👍
Why is the axis invader so underpowered compared to the allied sniper he basically has legal wall hacks and armor piercing bullets a over powered combo I love being the invader but it is extremely hard to kill the allied sniper when they abuse their sniper sense I thought of a few ways to level the playing field ether add the armor piercing bullets or make it so you can have a friend be a invader with you that's just how I feel the invader is way to underpowered
I think rebellion should move away from Carl for the next game . I also think they can make a for playing co op game. Where u can pick one of for class
For me it doesnt make sense. If you want the stealth meter to go low, triggering enforcements, ruins things 🤔
All of the SE5 levels are just lazy. I really expected a lot more when it was released very later. They had extra time so what did they do with it?
I really feel that when the dlc out shiny the main mission there a problem. I really found sniper elite 5 was just lacking. Rebellion need start putting more effort into the campaign. It's what I buy the game for. I would say most people turn off invasion mode.
what we really need are golden skins for our weapons
No. :)
I 2nd a hard Oh HELL no.
What I don't understand is... we're snipers.
One shot, one kill.
Get in, get out undetected.
Being snipers, why are we stopped by a simple curb, log, branch, water??? We should be able to traverse dang near ANY terrain with ease.
There's too much run 'n' gun in the series.
I want to see more emphasis on stealth gameplay.
I'd like to see the ability to insert at 2 different points for co-op so my sniping partner and I can have a "Two Pronged" approach.
Finally, the ability to choose the time and weather for a mission.
Sniper Elite III is STILL my favorite!!!
Yes they were sad and easy the only way it made it fun if someone invaded when you were try to end the mission
The game mechanics and design have improved with each installment, but the mission objectives are pretty bad at this point. This game is more like Saboteur Elite; no, Saboteur Mundane/Tedious. San Celini had the right idea: kill the officers. There would be absolutely nothing wrong with having a couple of missions in each game be as simple as that one is.
Bitanti Village, too: I sneak through the entire level just to reach the church and provide support to the partisans from above, blow the gate, done. Sounds like a realistic sniper mission to me.
And Regilino Viaduct might be the best level in an SE game, ever. But every level that has been produced since those first three levels in SE4 has been a bit underwhelming, to me. I was THRILLED when I first booted up this game and saw the Kill List objective…and extremely disheartened when I discovered that most of those kills were best completed with a knife to the throat or a silly gimmick. The main objective in most of these levels should be eliminating a high-value target. Loose Ends could’ve been great: infiltrate undetected and race to the vantage point while the clock is ticking. But nah, just drop me off in front of the building and I’ll test my long-range Welrod skills. I haven’t tried completing the game without using a rifle, but I’m pretty sure it can be done and that’s kind of sad.
None of this will stop me from playing or from being pumped about SE6. But I’m not touching this game again until they give me my damn Mosin-Nagant already 🤬
Wish granted kind sir, here is your Mosin Nagant. Yw. Gotta pay for it though!!???!!??!??!??
@@kitjasabsgabs1830 Already purchased and put to very good use, separating Nazis from their reproductive organs 👍
The reason why SE 5 feels as missed opportunity is because the game is not made by the core development team of the franchise, but some rookies.
Of all the things to complain about in SE5, this seems pretty small
The subject here is "set pieces" not "all the things we dislike about SE5".
@@BrutalBarracuda Some have missed the point. That dam legal THC got ppl so high in the sky they can't see their feet. Lmao
and the glitch in multiplayer, no patchs, nothing, they can't make maps without glitch in MP, I report a loooooot, with screenshots, but nothing
I hate the devs who developed this game, isn't the same guys who make SE4
Love urr handle. We used snafu and fubar alot in USMC. Semper Fi
😝 Promo>SM
actually i have to disagree: why?
because openworld with an open mission design simply doesnt allow obcetives that block any way to "complete" a map. Like the mission would have to end on that exact high note 10/10 cases. And while many players did indeed enjoy killing those 2 snipers or that one tank if the map design begged for it i cannot remember even a single one of my peers who didnt complain about ALL of the provide cover msiions in v2 and 3. they were poorly animated, dull, redundant and the Ai was incomprehensibly stupid. Since the humble begiinings of the SE franchise these technical inadequacies will not occur again granted, but the biggest complaint remains: these "survive" objectives are uncomfortably long! S4 and 5 are epidemies of "let the player do what he likes best" and those oppressive "you have to do this every single playthrough" objectives are, generally speaking, either very short or extremely modular and extremely customizable/doable in many ways, if not even both.
To fix and improve on your demands S5 offers 1.) invasion mode, which COULD NOT FUNCTION if there were heavy AI respawn on the maps and 2.) survival mode which actually made it its premis to hold off an army of AI which constantly gets more & stronger. If your unreasonable demands were met both of these enjoyable modes would permanently suffer since they couldnt be en/disabled by those who have an opinion on them. doing what you want will lead to many players leaving the game as your demands are stupid. players loved S4 and 5 more than 2 and 3 so its not going to happen anyway. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. So please take the game for what its supposed to do.
You like it the way it is, thats also a valid opinion. No need to be calling anyone stupid though.
@@BrutalBarracuda my main consern is that the main dish in the entire franchise has always been the campaign. sure if you made some of the missions in S5 more "survival" the survival fans would enjoy that. everyone else would hate it though. plus the survival mode already exists. personally S5 is just an 8,5/10 game to me so its not super enjoyable or anything but i recognze that is constructed in a very smart manner. v2 and S3 however were not, they were just big Indies. More passion projects if you will but certainly no crowd pleasers.
Valid point also. That's why it should have both cakes and eats also. Finish a level by their design by completing set main or 2nd objectives ends all well, don't do it quietly, the way it's set out and there's hell to pay, not a truck with 5 bad guys that when u set a mine they all die anyhow. These ideas and mission designs is why we still talk about 3, and 4 today. We all love the game that's why we're here, but it is not perfection at all. Good yes, perfect NO. Alot of that is due why? Kung Flu. If they would've used designers from 3 and 4 with 5 we'd have some of these extras. But fellas we got duped. With all the granny's gonna die if u don't wear a face diaper, get jabs, boosts, more jabs and boosts ruined it all.