Origin of the word Chamorro

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    Timestamp
    0:00 - Intro
    0:51 - ‘Chamorro’ comes from the Spanish word Chamorro Theory
    1:33 - First problem
    2:10 - Second problem
    2:56 - Third problem
    3:35 - ‘Chamorro’ comes from the indigenous word Chamorri Theory
    6:51 - Last appearance of Chamorri
    7:39 - Speculation of why Chamorri evolved into Chamorro
    8:36 - Origin and alternative meaning of the word Chamorri
    12:30 - Conclusion
    References
    Freycinet, L. C., & de Freycinet, L. (2003). An account of the corvette L’Uranie’s sojourn at the Mariana Islands, 1819 (G. Barratt, Trans.). Saipan, Northern Mariana Islands: Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas Division of Historic Preservation.
    Levesque, R. (1992). (ed), History of Micronesia. Vol. 1, European discovery, 1521-1650. Quebec, Canada: Levesque Publications.
    Levesque, R. (1992). (ed), History of Micronesia. Vol. 2, Prelude to conquest, 1561-1595. Quebec, Canada: Levesque Publications.
    Levesque, R. (1993). (ed), History of Micronesia. Vol. 3, First real contact, 1596-1637. Quebec, Canada: Levesque Publications.
    Levesque, R. (1995). (ed), History of Micronesia. Vol. 4, Religious conquest, 1638-1670. Quebec, Canada: Levesque Publications.
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Komentáře • 34

  • @pulanspeaks
    @pulanspeaks  Před rokem +1

    This a reupload of the previous video due to an attribution error, where I had Pedro de Casanova as the sole author to a quote, when the authorship is more accurately attributed to Jesuit Missionaries. Note this does not at all affect any of the arguments, evidence, and conclusion of the video. While I could have left the original video up with a disclaimer as this error can be viewed as insignificant, I decided to reupload the video as I do not wish for anyone in the future to perpetuate the attribution error. Despensa yu'
    -Pulan

  • @youtwoacc
    @youtwoacc Před 23 dny

    Good research, keep it up. I like this channel.

  • @Intittledkitty
    @Intittledkitty Před rokem +3

    Samurai were part of chamorrai . They ledgends of theses places help to clear it up and historical text book

    • @daneironfoot2696
      @daneironfoot2696 Před rokem

      What? Samurai is Japanese 😂ur stupid. Just because they occupied the Pacific doesn’t make the islanders Samurai. Clown

  • @ArchaeologyStudio
    @ArchaeologyStudio Před rokem +1

    Oh, worry about the issue with the re-upload ... your dedication is admirable with ensuring the accuracy and the attributions of the sources!

  • @Me2Lancer
    @Me2Lancer Před rokem

    Tsshank you for your post. In the mid-1960s my ship's homeport was Apra Harbor, Guam. From Guam we routinely patrolled the Marianas and Bonin Islands to the north and the Caroline Islands to the south, as well as Palau.
    The residents of Guam referred to themselves as Chamorros. As you mentioned in another video, most of the residents of Guam today speak English almost exclusively.

  • @David-ee1pi
    @David-ee1pi Před 9 měsíci +2

    Neither 'ch' nor 'ts', as you pronounce it, sounds like an Austronesian consonant, to my ear anyway. Proto-malayo-polynesian, from which Chamorro supposedly derives, doesn't have this sound, right?
    Did this consonant therefore come from Spanish (along with the shaving 'blades')?
    Seems unlikely that the pre-contact indigenous people used a word with a 'ch' in it to describe themselves, their chiefs or the word 'friend'.
    If so, however the word 'chamorro' came about, ultimately its origin is Spanish.

  • @richardfalig6176
    @richardfalig6176 Před rokem +1

    The early encounter or the first encounter has no record about how the latte stone was made and moved. Why? Because sailors were only interested in Pussykatu.

  • @gatekeeper3660
    @gatekeeper3660 Před rokem +2

    Guahu si TåtåMooooo! Thanks for all you do Chelu!

  • @noahjcastro5642
    @noahjcastro5642 Před rokem +2

    If you say “mauri” meant “good” back then, over time and loss of translation, it does sound like our word now “Måolek”

  • @richardfalig6176
    @richardfalig6176 Před rokem +2

    Chamorros came
    From the old place called garden of Eden. They traveled to the Mariana’s after their mom ate the mango.

    • @Intittledkitty
      @Intittledkitty Před rokem

      Wrong our mother is Lilith the serpent queen

    • @EsaieOjeleye
      @EsaieOjeleye Před rokem

      ou have chosen the way of religions and holy books to go to hell, but I move forward with the children of God. In 2004, an imam came to see me. That is the only time I saw him. He claimed to have seen a great prophet in a dream and that prophet was called Fitilah and when that prophet turned around, it was me. This imam had come to see me dressed in white with his rosary and the whole appearance of a pious imam. But before he followed me, he wanted me to become a Muslim. Oh, really?! Does a doctor have to become a leper before he treats lepers? When God sends a prophet on the earth, should this prophet become a Buddhist before Buddhists believe in him? Does this prophet have to become a Christian before Christians follow him? Does this prophet have to become a Hindu before all Hindus follow him? And everything this prophet does must be in conformity with the Torah, the Bible, the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita and with all the holy books of the religions of the earth? Shouldn’t this prophet stand on behalf of God and condemn all the systems of the earth for the Salvation of the children of God? Are your religions superior to the Word of God? And you Muslim, so if heaven doesn't look like Mecca, you won't enter it? So, the words of a prophet must be in conformity with the Torah, the Bible, the Quran and the Veda, otherwise he is a false prophet? You are demons and you will all go to hell with your religions and holy books. I am speaking by a divine mandate transmitted by an angel on April 24, 1993. Reject me and be pious, be good and kind, be in the truth, be full of love and peace, help the poor but you will all go to hell with that but those who are destined for eternal life among you will come to me.
      Extract from Kacou 149: Preaching on Islam (Read also Kacou 131, Kacou 136, Kacou 144, Kacou 145)
      Download the official Prophet Kacou Philippe application on Play Store and App Store

    • @kamakazi8152
      @kamakazi8152 Před rokem

      @@Intittledkitty what you talking about?
      Chamorros are the half breed of the Spaniards that invade Guam..thigh in Spanish is Chamorros..

    • @JohnDoe-kb9jr
      @JohnDoe-kb9jr Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@kamakazi8152Chamorros are people that settled on the Marianas Islands from Southeast Asia around 3,500 years ago, centuries later the Spaniards colonize them. They are not just half breeds of Spaniards.

  • @morgasm26
    @morgasm26 Před 10 měsíci

    I found this very interesting.. even though I look like a white boy my 3rd great grandfather was from Spanish guam.. he was supposedly a hot mix of afro-mexican chamorran and spanish.. he moved to Hawaii where he married into the hawaiian side of my family via my 3rd great grandmother ululani kololina hipa of koloa kauai.. the thing I fond interesting is you mention nobility and they only marry other nobility.. my hawaiian grandmother was not a commoner.. neither was the dasilva side of my family that married in in the following generation.. my 2nd great grandfather Joaquin gomes dasilva came to Hawaii and married my 2nd great grandmother Mary kauihanohano luahiwa Nicholas.. anywho.. my grandpa from guam had many names.. from hank to frank to henriques.. and a last name of nichols or Nicholas and even nicholson. I don't think he could spell too well.. I mean his wife my hawaiian grandmother was the first in that side of my family to be able to write her name.. being hawaiian had just became a written language.. and her name was shortened just to fit on records.. and as for my 3rd great grandpa henriques he was born in Spanish guam where Spanish was dominant at the time and moved to Hawaii where English was taking over... anywho my family tree dead ends there.. but it's in my dna and that's as far back as the records go for all I know.. I mean even my great grandpa born in honolulu Benjamin dasilva was of noble blood and married noble blood essentially.. he married into the tafft/tefft family.. you know like president tafft.? As well as the hamiltons and other historic American family lines.. I have a pic of my great grandpa Benjamin dasilva with bette rose hamilton on his knee.. my half great grandaunt.. anywho.. maybe there's something to that nobility thing..

  • @tumpoktae5627
    @tumpoktae5627 Před 10 měsíci

    I thought Magellan called the Island Isla de Ladrones

  • @Intittledkitty
    @Intittledkitty Před rokem

    The Japanese named Guam the great shrine and the imperial court . When Japan was a super force they used to own all of the pacific realm and 25% of the the lands in austronesian realm

  • @rhodium1096
    @rhodium1096 Před rokem

    Chamorro is a common surname here in Spain

  • @Scp716creativecommons

    Here's a thought for you. You say Mexican Spanish 'chamorro' means thicc calfs, well, when i was in the usa armed service there is a disproportionate number of oceanic islanders amongst the ranks, and they all had the thickest soccer legs i have ever seen.
    Don't get me wrong, i think your research here is first rate, but if they call themselves Chamorri, have meaty lower legs, and the word, which describes that feature amongst the people bequeathing a nom de terra, is chamorro... i mean who could help but start using the words rather fluidly

  • @Intittledkitty
    @Intittledkitty Před rokem

    By etymology chamorro language meanings mimics Japanese and Philippines

    • @EsaieOjeleye
      @EsaieOjeleye Před rokem

      ou have chosen the way of religions and holy books to go to hell, but I move forward with the children of God. In 2004, an imam came to see me. That is the only time I saw him. He claimed to have seen a great prophet in a dream and that prophet was called Fitilah and when that prophet turned around, it was me. This imam had come to see me dressed in white with his rosary and the whole appearance of a pious imam. But before he followed me, he wanted me to become a Muslim. Oh, really?! Does a doctor have to become a leper before he treats lepers? When God sends a prophet on the earth, should this prophet become a Buddhist before Buddhists believe in him? Does this prophet have to become a Christian before Christians follow him? Does this prophet have to become a Hindu before all Hindus follow him? And everything this prophet does must be in conformity with the Torah, the Bible, the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita and with all the holy books of the religions of the earth? Shouldn’t this prophet stand on behalf of God and condemn all the systems of the earth for the Salvation of the children of God? Are your religions superior to the Word of God? And you Muslim, so if heaven doesn't look like Mecca, you won't enter it? So, the words of a prophet must be in conformity with the Torah, the Bible, the Quran and the Veda, otherwise he is a false prophet? You are demons and you will all go to hell with your religions and holy books. I am speaking by a divine mandate transmitted by an angel on April 24, 1993. Reject me and be pious, be good and kind, be in the truth, be full of love and peace, help the poor but you will all go to hell with that but those who are destined for eternal life among you will come to me.
      Extract from Kacou 149: Preaching on Islam (Read also Kacou 131, Kacou 136, Kacou 144, Kacou 145)
      Download the official Prophet Kacou Philippe application on Play Store and App Store

  • @Intittledkitty
    @Intittledkitty Před rokem

    Chamorro woman are the holy mothers and the holy man was from Australia

  • @vantatilfly
    @vantatilfly Před rokem

    I could say that the Filipino word for Muslims "Moro" came from the word chamoro. Not Moro from the word Morocco. So we're the southern Filipinos fat? Or were they royalty or nobles. Spanish people use chamorri chamoro chamora depending on genders or something else. Like kusinero or kusinera kusinerito kusinerito you know things like that they could also change for like collective things

  • @Intittledkitty
    @Intittledkitty Před rokem

    The Spanish claim them selves to mean moors. Apparently blacks and whites only have claim to lands because their kings and queens are moors. They also think Egyptians were the moors and the crusaders who were protecting the ark of the covanant. The Mary mother or the blood line of "god"

    • @EsaieOjeleye
      @EsaieOjeleye Před rokem

      ou have chosen the way of religions and holy books to go to hell, but I move forward with the children of God. In 2004, an imam came to see me. That is the only time I saw him. He claimed to have seen a great prophet in a dream and that prophet was called Fitilah and when that prophet turned around, it was me. This imam had come to see me dressed in white with his rosary and the whole appearance of a pious imam. But before he followed me, he wanted me to become a Muslim. Oh, really?! Does a doctor have to become a leper before he treats lepers? When God sends a prophet on the earth, should this prophet become a Buddhist before Buddhists believe in him? Does this prophet have to become a Christian before Christians follow him? Does this prophet have to become a Hindu before all Hindus follow him? And everything this prophet does must be in conformity with the Torah, the Bible, the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita and with all the holy books of the religions of the earth? Shouldn’t this prophet stand on behalf of God and condemn all the systems of the earth for the Salvation of the children of God? Are your religions superior to the Word of God? And you Muslim, so if heaven doesn't look like Mecca, you won't enter it? So, the words of a prophet must be in conformity with the Torah, the Bible, the Quran and the Veda, otherwise he is a false prophet? You are demons and you will all go to hell with your religions and holy books. I am speaking by a divine mandate transmitted by an angel on April 24, 1993. Reject me and be pious, be good and kind, be in the truth, be full of love and peace, help the poor but you will all go to hell with that but those who are destined for eternal life among you will come to me.
      Extract from Kacou 149: Preaching on Islam (Read also Kacou 131, Kacou 136, Kacou 144, Kacou 145)
      Download the official Prophet Kacou Philippe application on Play Store and App Store

  • @youtwoacc
    @youtwoacc Před 23 dny

    That word means water buffalo. Its Spanish.

  • @fishonado
    @fishonado Před 9 měsíci

    terrible how the Europeans disregarded the history and culture of our fellow Austronesians..much of the Philippines culture and language remained is because the Spanish never conquered half of the archipelago.

  • @kamakazi8152
    @kamakazi8152 Před rokem

    What I wanna know is who we’re the people on Guam before the Spaniard invaded Guam?
    What were they called..
    I didn’t know that Chamorro in Spanish is “means thigh”

  • @manuel3hernandez
    @manuel3hernandez Před rokem +1

    Mexico and the Philippines need to build a better relationship

  • @vgrg7841
    @vgrg7841 Před rokem

    I love Spain! Viva Filipnas