Minute Man Load Out: Practical and Tactical with an undeniable retro cool factor!
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- I put together a tactical load out for a Minute Man. I did it with an eye towards practicality and affordability. And because I really like surplus military gear. And bad puns. I really, really like bad puns.
Can never go wrong with ALICE gear, I still use it.
It’s simple, it works and it lasts. I love it.
British SAS say "You live out of your backpack, you fight out of your web gear, you survive out of your pockets." BTW, LED flashlights are superior. A fraction of the weight and size with far stronger beam and longer battery life. Most incandescent flashlights went in the trash long ago.
Any suggestions on one with a good red light without having to toggle through the before mentioned white light and strobe settings?
Oh yeah, you and I would get along.
Wow Pastor, I'm going to thank you in a video later but let me take a moment to say first that my whole channel is pretty much a rip off of you and the "Cue the intro" came straight from you. I hope you take it as the homage it was meant as. I don't want to come across as a stupid fan boy but I am an admirer and I hope I live up to those incredibly kind words. You have encouraged and inspired me through your videos for sometime now and it is very exciting and humbling to receive it directly too!
Thanks to Joe for putting me into the Revolting man and thanks to you TRM for the great content.
A lot of people criticize the ol' belt and suspenders. This is due to most modern warfighters operating out of vehicles, where those belt kits suck balls. However, we are not modern warfighters, we are militia. We don't have LAVs, Bradleys and MRAPs to ride around in. On long foot patrols, the belt kit is king. If you were expecting a fight, rather than just patrolling, it's easy enough to throw your armor over the suspenders.
Great comment! Pinning it.
To add to the discussion on another video about universal gear, here's some tips for using MOLLE pouches on your GI pistol belt (and why you might want to do so). take some paracord or bank line and weave it through the eyelets around the top and bottom of the belt. This acts as a belt keeper system.
If you are usign issue MOLLE pouches, they have a :strap and snap" system on the back to weave through PALS webbing and attach. Most after market pouches attach via MALICE clips. In either case, you put the strap or end of the MALICE clip through a loop of cord on the body side of the belt and then you have two choice. For straps/clips that take up 3 rows of PALS, just snap in place or lock the clip. This uses 3", and the belt is 2 1/4, but it holds it tight enough for vertical retention. For straps or clips that take up 5 rows, do the same as above, then take the tail or the strap or clip, run it under the 4th row of PALS, above the 5th row, then snap or lock it in place. This is more secure than the ALICE clips and more comfortable.
For gear/pouches, the M12/UM84 is designed to attach to a pistol belt (and the make the UM84R for large revolvers), giving you a flap holster.
Tactical tailor makes what they call the AK M16 pouch, which is like the ALICE pouches you use for magazine, but are made big enough to hold two AK47 magazines or 3 AR magazines, and lock with a side release buckle. www.tacticaltailor.com/akm16magpouch.aspx
To attach your suspenders, just attach the rear to the buttpack loops like now, and on the rifle mag pouches, I tie a loop of paracord through the tops of the MALICE clips before locking them in place and attaching the front of the yoke to the cord.
Their "Large Utility Pouch" will hold a Giu canteen, cup and stove nested, and provides a fully lidded cover for it. www.tacticaltailor.com/largeutilitypouch.aspx
For pistols, HSGI makes their "Modular Piustol Magazine Pouch", which I like because it has both a side release bluckle and velcro, but the velcro has a silencing strip, so you can use just the buckle and not have that velcro riiiiiiiipppppppp! in the field. www.highspeedgear.com/hsgi/modular-pistol-mag-pouch-single-12PM.html
You can get new made buttpacks that are cordura and more durable, but the old ones do what you need to well enough.
Great ideas!
You mean throw your suspenders over your armor.
Plate carriers should be used mostly from vehicles or if your in defencive posture ( guard duty , at a base camp). They are of limited value, if you need to retreat and manuever or move quickly and silently (raids etc) . Think guerrrrlaaa wa f re, milita loses in standup fights against well established troops. Think why sabot a dutch wooden shoe, became saboteege .( yeah, im paranionied words delibratly misspelled to upset computerized snooping) Ammo pouches can be upgraded with shock cord/bungee to make them quiet and improve retention. Old guys think in terms of 4 wheelers and quads to improve movement in the field and moving heavy loads. Fast atak vehicles now wear that armour.
that setup is tried and true , been used for over 40 years . moving through thick woods long range on foot it is the most practical . today guys are too over loaded with gear , quick and light and quiet is the only way . out in nature sound is amplified , especially things not natural . great setup . older troops go simple , the younger carry the kitchen sink . let them walk 12 miles in the bush , with full canteens and magazines , and perspective will be gained .
I agree.
Man you got that shit right!!!
What if u need full canteens to survive though....
Army here, 1971 to 74, FO in a M109 155mm FA unit. My TA-50 had the "H" web gear. Oh yea, I'll be 64 this September and I'm still in the fight!
Forward observer huh? We used to love having you guys around because it lowered the chance we would be calling arty in on our heads!
Gerry Washack AMEN BROTHER
The Revolting Man WHATS THE MATTER U GUYS DON'T KNOW HOW TO CALL IN 🔥. HAHAHA LOL
1980 to 1992 and July 1998 to January 2002 all Army Guard, but from 1980 to 1986 I was a 13-B FA Cannon Crewman in two different Firing Batteries equipped with M-110A1/A2 8 inch SP Howitzers. For a year and a half with C 1/ 161st FA and all three years with C 2/ 130th FA I was in the Special Weapons Section and we had a mix of M-56, M-67 and LC-1/ LC-2 ALICE gear.
The king of battle
When I was in Basic (1998) we called it the LBE (load bearing equipment). I would add (and would not consider going into the field without) a Leatherman multi-tool! Great post :)
As if I wasn’t feeling old enough already..... love it!!
I know right!
video made me smile. Was in Army Boot Camp in 1982... wore all that stuff, except the Glock knife. Lost my "moonbeam" in the woods of Ft Benning GA during the last training of the cycle... I still think about it, junk though it was. ;-)
The poncho liner...AKA, the woobie!
Best piece of gear in the infantry.
Brings back memories, first tour in Army, 1972 to 1975. A lot changed after my 23 year break in service. Came back in the Navy Reserve as a Corpsman in 1998 and finished my 17 years, 11 years with the Corps, to include a little R&R in beautiful Down tow Ramadi in the lush Anbar Provence 07 to 08. Many changes in gear and uniforms, from pea green to digital woodland and desert. I’d take am M60 any day over a 240 G. Love the moon beam. I remember helmet liners and steel pots, & LAWS. M-16 in boot was an A-Nothing, no windage, just Kentucky, no forward assist and full auto. M 151 and Gamma Goats. M 110’s real guns (8-inch, 200 lbs. rounds).
Gamma ugliest vehicle in the world..and loud..
I used that gear for many years while serving as a grunt. We wore the ammo pouches at about 45° from the front. This allowed us to still lay in a good prone position, and the placement of the ammo pouches provided good stability. We could still roll to either side comfortably.
There’s nothing wrong with it, having been issued both the LBV did have some advantages though.
I also rested my weapon on that pouch while humping since my unit SOP was no slings for anybody not carrying a SAW or larger weapon lol. I was India co. and STA plt 3/5 in another lifetime.
I'm an old school Corpsman, and I have almost the EXACT SAME RIG, sans the magazine pouches(got an AK chest rig, each pouch holds 2 M-16, 30 round mags, totaling 8+1). Talk about a MAJOR flashback!!!! OOHRAH!!!!! Semper Fi, brother!!! You just got a new subscriber!!!! 🇺🇸
P.S. I still have my old "Unit 1" that I liberated many years ago, heh heh!!!
That's a useful piece of gear! Glad to have a doc in the house! Semper Fi!
I remember when we transitioned to the LBV, I hated that thing......My buttpack held 1 MRE (spaghetti) 100mph tape, 550 cord, iodine tablets, booboo kit, rifle cleaning kit, extra compass, batteries, and toilet paper. oh man, now I'm craving ranger pudding......
You're craving ranger pudding!? You're hard core! Did you not use the buttpack with the LBV? I seem to remember we did.
The Revolting Man yep, I kept my buttpack, and went back to my lbe as long as I could.
went through the kitchen and made some pudding. my son was visiting at the time, and looked like he was going to be sick
I would also through in a watch cap. It doesn't weigh much and it can help keep you a little warmer.
Good idea.
There are plenty of super light weight synthetic watch caps that weigh practically nothing and take up almost no room. Great suggestion.
Late 80's - early 90's paratrooper (11B, recon) here. We were issued the Y harness, but we would search far and wide for an H harness and a butt pack. Pure gold.
I ended up replacing this with an LBV recently. The y harness went in to the spare bin for some future use.
Had the same set up ...US Army Infantry...1983-1988....works darn fine...excellent video. Thanks for being up front and real...everything you post is reasonable...logical...tactically sound...Excellent work
Very valid point about headlamps not needing to cycle through white to get to red.
Aske me how I learned this...
Only thing missing is an extra pair of socks...
Damn. I did forget socks. Good catch thank you.
Socks and compass w/pouch
And the grunt candy
@@walterwilliams9191 ahhh good old giant orange Motrin!
And one too many canteens! Never used that much water ever unless you're bathing in it! Not worth the added weight.
The H-harness is the predecessor to the Y-harness. The Y-harmed came out with the ALICE gear or the LC-1 gear. To get down to the nitty gritty, the H-harness that you used in basic, that was designed in 1956 with all the other M-56 gear.
Excellent video that brought back a lot of memories. I still have my Moonbeam. You went in the year I got out. Semper Fi!
Semper Fi!
Brings me back to Basic training in 1987, at Ft. McClellan, Alabama.
Retro is functional. Arrived in VN and we were issued no mag pouches; just 21+1 20 rd. mags in cotton bandoliers (7 mags per of 18 or 19 rds per mag), plus old web 782 gear (often dated 1943 or 1944) with poncho and a liner or wool blanket. I found the bandoliers with mags worked OK. You get used to pulling mags. Later, some pouches were found but I just rotated newer bandos. Belt carried 2 canteens, cup, jungle 1st aid pouch and bayonet (but never conducted bayonet charges). Wore one bando around waist, at least one like a pictured Mexican bandit in the westerns. Carried the extra mag in thigh jungle pocket or in M16A1. I recall a 1st MarDiv reg that we were to take out rifles anywhere with us and at least 4 mags. Funny how these topics drag up old memories. We had the open end flash hiders. Some Marines used them to twist the wires off C ration cases. I carried a pair of wire cutters for this and other reasons but later the military changed to the bird cage hider because too many troops got bushes in the open ends. I think that was BS. I still think the open end 3 prong flash hider is better at night. I have tested both later. Some new gear is really great but retro is also cool. If you shoot the M1, it's clip belt is great. Thanks.
Thank you for sharing this with us! I pinned it so others can see this invaluable snapshot of how it was done. Thank you for your service!
I like old school . I liked to spend a day walking around in the woods every now and then. You can get this gear wet, walk through brush. It is the most durable gear ever made. Lastly it’s cheap to buy and easy to clean.
Extra socks, toiletries-- toothbrush, TP (taken from MRE package), small hand towel, (in todays world I'd also pack an alcohol hand sanitizer). all go in the fanny pack. Blow-out kit goes on the left hip front/loin area. Egads, I can't recall all we carried on those belts 50 years ago! Dang memory.
I had a hand towel but I forgot my TP. What a maroon.
I still have one of those moonbeams! I have red, blue and clear . I never served but I am an army brat! I collect all kinds of military gear. If it’s good enough for the military people, it’s good enough for me! Thank you for your services sir and welcome home! Bear Independent recommended this channel on his channel so I sneaked over and joined, subscribed and rang that bell 🔔!
A source of the old Vietnam era gear is Moore Militaria. I've used them for my M-56 gear pieces and my M-61 Field Packs (Butt Packs.) I also shopped At The Front and World War Two Impressions when I did World War Two Reenactments. When I was in the Army Guard I also bought a set of LC-1/ LC-2/ ALICE LBE (belt, ammo pouches, Y-suspenders, canteen covers, canteens and cups) as well as a Medium ALICE Pack and frame from Fort Sill's Clothing Sales Store on Annual Training.
that brought back memories!! When I was in, we had to provide our own flashlight. Wrote our name on them with a sharpie. I think I still have mine laying around here, along with the LBE/LCE
Glad you liked it. I really enjoyed making this video. I'm going to try and focus more on a modern, respectable militia going forward.
The Revolting Man I just tell people to stick to whatever their budget is. It doesn't have to be overly complicated, it just needs to work. 😀. Many blessings to ya'll!
Thank you!
The Revolting Man right on brother!! Keep rockin' it!!
There was a saying among WWII US Army infantrymen that when going into battle, in addition to their rifle and basic load, they would carry all the extra water and grenades they could carry.
I used to have a moonbeam. My granddaddy got it off someone on a ship they were working on in the yard. I wore it out over twenty years of use. Great info and build on your MM rig. I don't even have something like this. I might have to build one myself. Take Care and Stay Safe.
Great video. I did my basic in 88/89. British Army! After my training when I arrived at my unit, I had to buy a right angle torch (as we call them) and I also got a chest rig. I was in Northern Ireland doing a tour at the time. And both my new torch and chest rig made life so much better in the province.
Just found you...Came over from Pastor Fox's channel! Ahhhh the moon beam! Former army infantry here, HOOAH! Blue lights - in 97 when I was going through basic, we were told to look to see if we saw any lenses that were any color other than red and clear...So bad I wanted to say "I didn't know clear was a color!" But since it was basic, I quickly decided otherwise.
Anyway, in 97 they said to get rid of them...typical infantry basic training, it was a do-it-cause-I-said-so approach, without an explanation. Only thing I can figure is there is just no added bonus to it. Nothing beats red for night vision retention, and nothing beats white for visibility...hope that helps, and I hope I have all my "facts" straight!
Thanks Adam! There's nothing more valuable to militiamen than veterans sharing their knowledge!
Minute men were the QRF of there time. Good Bless.
Great video Revolting Man, but the "Y" harness wasn't used in Vietnam, that came later with the LC-1/LC-2 gear in the mid to late 70s, in Vietnam we used primarily the canvas M-56 LBE harness which was an "H" style LBE suspender arrangement, later they realized canvas would slowly rot so they brought out the M-67 gear which was all nylon, it had an "H" suspender also but the M-67 stuff only got issued in Vietnam here and there in sprinkles, not on a big scale everywhere over there, except for the Tropical ruck which was part of the M-67 gear series, that got issued pretty heavily since it was bigger and could carry more than the "lightweight" ruck bag that had been used up till that time. Still, the M-56 gear was never usurped in Vietnam and while here stateside in 1972 for instance you might have been issued M-67 gear etc over there you would have still been given M-56 gear even at that late date. But you can examine lots of photos and see sprinkles of M-67 gear on US and ARVN troops from about 1968 onward.
Wow, amazing information! Thanks for setting me straight and sharing all of that. I'm pinning this comment so others can see the background history.
and that looks like a really good repro of an M-67 buttpack you feature in this video, those were not made in large numbers period in the M-67 gear so if that is an original it needs to be part of a collection not "out in the field", but most likely a really good repro so same difference. Bottom line, they finally realized that in Nam canvas stuff would rot, a book was written by a former Colonel named Cresson Kearny titled "Jungle Snafus and Remedies". He spent a lot of time in Nam analyzing the US field gear and made recommendations to General Abrams who was Commander of MACV by then on what improvements needed to be made, and surprisingly they listened. He recommended going to nylon over canvas/cotton web gear, the need for jungle flotation bladders/aka 5 qt jungle bladders :
www.vietnamgear.com/fullphoto.aspx?img=5qcant1.jpg
and other stuff, again it's amazing that they listened
M-56 Suspenders:
www.vietnamgear.com/fullphoto.aspx?img=M56spndrs.jpg
M-67 Suspenders:
www.vietnamgear.com/fullphoto.aspx?img=M67suspend.jpg
the neat thing about the M-67 suspenders was they had "meat hooks" attached up high on the back to allow the soldier to hook the buttpack up high like an assaullt pack if need be or to use the M-67 sleep system carrier to hook up there with the poncho and poncho liner rolled up in it.
M-67 sleep system carrier:
www.vietnamgear.com/fullphoto.aspx?img=M67sleepcarrier.jpg
all this M-67 gear is still easy to find on ebay and new in mint condition usually because we didn't issue much of it in Nam and before it could get issued totally here stateside they were already going to the LC-1 gear.
I got that butt pack from the widow of an old Vietnam era soldier who joined the National Guard after the war and ended up retiring as a Master Sergeant so there is a chance that it is the real deal. Is there a way to tell? It is in good shape and if it is reproduction it is superb and cost an arm and a leg. If it is collector's piece though I need to get it in the hands of a collector.
If it's an original you might look under the flap on the inside, or on the back, somewhere it'll have black stenciled letters with Army nomenclature on it talking something like ..."Field Pack, M-67, nylon, ..." something and it'll have a date like 1968-69-70 or something in black letters somewhere, that one looks like it's in good condition so the letters probably aren't worn off.
Get two canteen cups a canteen cup lid and the canteen cup cooker. All are very inexpensive, and the canteen cup cooker fits over the canteen cup and in the canteen pouch. The lid for the canteen cup will obviously go into your butt pack. add 1 more magazine pouch and three more mags, and a pistol with holster. Believe me it will fit on your belt.
Just another 0311. "Semper Fi!" Brother.
I turned 28 years old while I was in Basic back in 04. I was just as old as the Drill Sgt's. We had the old Alice packs and canteen belts, with the old moon bean flash lite. Had the same with the reg Army, I bought my MOLLE II ruck system & FLC all BDU style, while I was in before the switched over to the ACU's
I was in boot camp with a guy who had made it to E-6 in the Guard before he decided to be a Marine. You should have seen him a graduation, he had a huge stack. He had gotten mobilized for Desert Storm. We had a drill instructor who on hadly a national defense and a good cookie. It was pretty funny.
@@TheRevoltingMan lol im sure
Well done video. Add ttl of 3 days rations. u can break down those MRE's for less bulk. There's aftermarket meals now-a-days too. You said you were going to get the canteen cup, they now make lids for those. also, on the other canteen side you can get one of those "stoves" that's made for that system as well. For first aid, moleskin, band-aids, triple antibiotic, alcohol wipes, needle, tiny scissors, celox, issue pressure dressing is good. Aspirin, Tylenol, Motrin, sinus meds, diarrhea meds, constipation meds. Water purification tablets fit in the canteen outer Velcro pockets. you might could rig a camelbak on there. Leather work gloves.
The gloves are the biggest thing I need to add.
I still have all my old LBE Alice gear. I am a recent convert to all this new fangled MOLLE gear, though. It's just as combat proven as the old school stuff now and it's getting to be cheaper and cheaper on the surplus market. I think it's a bit more flexible in how you can configure it, too. Old school is awesome, but this new school stuff is just as good.
I got to carry the MOLLE gear just once at Bridgeport for mountain warfare training and the stupid straps kept breaking on the pack. It was a very early version though and hadn't even made it out to the fleet yet so I'm sure it got better. Thanks for the comment!
I learned during a winter ftx that it's best to use old steel ww2 canteens. If your canteen and bladder freezes you cannot toss a plastic canteen near a fire to thaw it back out. Keep a steel canteen handy. I use the SAW ammo pouches in the front rather than the standard ammo pouch as I use an ak47. I know nato made longer ammo pouches for ak's but they are hard to find.
Good idea about the steel canteens.
Excellent, both the loadout and the minuteman explanation. All my gears a mix and match on a budget. When I was in the reserve webbing was only issued on exercise. They've cut the reserve right back now to where its almost non existent. I was in in 96-98. Not long I know, wish I could have stayed in longer. Thanks for the tips
So I'm not sure I know you well enough to make this joke but all I can think of is the Monty Python sketch with the sergeant major marching up and down the square by himself.
I love Monty Python and I hope I didn't come off as condescending to your service. I didn't mean that at all. I will check out Balck Adder, thank you for the tip!
No problem at all, I'm no snowflake. I signed up when things were very dodgy in my country, and I believed large civil conflict was a real possibility. I was too young to sign up to the real deal and the reserve was a way of being on standby. Some of the guys weren't enamoured with the title "sandbagger" or "weekend warrior" but it didn't bother. I knew what we were and what we'd be used for if things went wrong. The job I'm in excludes me from the reserves now and that is something I amn't happy about. But I have huge respect for the armed services. Monthy Python is also my thing, an acquired taste for some but the Quest for the Holy Grail is my favourite. Thanks again.
Chicom 7 cell chest rig for ar mags (button the tops around the mags for tighter fit), cleaning gear and “self-aid buddy care” supplies. Assault pack for water, food, comms and snivel.
Sounds like a good rig.
Love your channel Thanks to Pastor Joe
Thank you Tim!
Shared this vid with a friend of mine who swears the .357 is Gods round. This was right up his alley, and surprisingly I too after spending tons on Gucci gear only to realize how effective simplicity is.
I can't afford Gucci gear (thank you for the new phrase) so I have to go this route and I'm glad I did. It's very functional, I'm very familiar with it and it's very affordable.
@@TheRevoltingMan comment made my night, and instills the point. Look forward to your content, and you got a friend here in Virginia on the east coast. God Bless.
Very cool! I'm going to set something up like that. Good motivation. Thanks.
Glad you like it. I've used it in the field now and it worked well.
I like your video, I have almost the same rig that lives in the tool box of my truck. BTW, I figured you had gloves, soc's, and foot powder, and a compass, and probably a watch cap too. Just the basic "don't leave home without", gear. This rig started out for me as a get home kit. As time has gone on, the addition of mag pouches and mags, has been a natural evolution. I'm going to add a dump pouch, as a place for empty mags, gloves, and such forth, that makes all these things easier to keep track of. Lastly, the user friendly pricing of these items makes them affordable to everyone, I think. Keep up the good work.
Thanks David. I'm very pleased with this set up.
Hey thanks for the video. I’m putting together a rig very similar for a quick reaction movement to other members of my family if rioting occurs and organizing it using some old prepper stuff I had from years gone by. You gave me a real good idea with the light and I am going to replicate it. Ditto for the mag pouches . Your video confirmed to me that I am on the right track, although admittedly I won’t winning any prepper fashion awards (but it works).
I stayed with mine, had it since 1988, used it through out my time in the Marine Corp's, early 1980s. By the way, in case no one told you, the H Harness is older than the Y harness, and I recieved from supply when getting to K-Bay to B. 1/3, a WW2 M-1945 X harness, I kept it and traded it for my newer Y harness from my JOB stuff. I still have that WW2 harness today. Oh, and you will want Two canteen cups, not one.
Ooh rah! 1997 to 05 0311 here! I started off with that old school set up! Great video! Subbed
Thank you! Our service overlapped. Where were you stationed?
1998 to 2001 i was with Charlie co. 1/8 camp Lejuene. After that i went to Quantico to a number of units mainly Range control and OCS as an instructor.
We were at Lejeune at the same time, I was at Tank Battalion in the TOW platoon. And we may have been at Quantico at the same time. I was recalled after 9/11 and spent a year with Security Battalion from November 2001 until November 2002.
Yep we were, i got to Quantico January of 2002.
Outstanding I love that old stuff, I have a ton of it. The M1967 "Y" harness had a second set of clips at the top. You could put the butt pack up on your shoulders. The CORP. had a larger butt pack never seen anyone who had one, but I guess they were out there. On my rig I have two butt packs. just for extra room. Thanks a lot for the video. Old DOC.
Looks like our rigs in the 80s Army, in Germany! I would (and have) definitely upgraded to a more moder rig. I go with a similar chest rig set up like our buddy Bear
Your content is some of the best/truest on yt at a time it's very much needed. thanks brother
Those are some very kinds words Colorado, thank you.
Old School is the only school I ever graduated from.
Lol, it was a great relief to me when I finally embraced my inner old man. The only surprise I had was when I realized he was the outer man now!
Old school and the school of hard knocks!!!
Oh talk about memory lane!!!!!!! Loved the video!!!! Just trying to find stuff that will fit me now that I'm older, out of shape have too many lbs on but not willing to pay down or surrender peacefully like sheep. I too have my oath and intend to fulfill until last breath.
In the early 80's, we were still using much of the things used in Vietnam .
We were still using shelter halves when I got to the fleet in '95.
We were still boiling C-Rats in trash cans, !! The dreaded ham and eggs, still gives me shivers, lol !!!
Our M-16's were left over from Vietnam. Aww, who am I kidding ? Everything was leftovers back then !!!
I have all old school, works well, sometimes old is better than new !
"In the old days." All those statutes are still in tact. The clauses of the Constitution that recognize Militia have never been changed to mean something other than what the State statutes detail.
Did you know that the militia statutes actually detail what equipment a member of the constitutional Militia is required to possess and maintain?
Unfortunately, about 99.9% of the population don't want to know the truth of the law in this matter. I have actually read some of the militia statutes, which are incredibly hard to find since neither the pro-2nd groups, nor the State want the People to know the truth.
However, the original statutes read something along these lines; a rifle, 1 lb of powder, 20 ball, and accoutrements.
Accoutrements would consist of patches, cleaning gear. Some units might have to have a tomahawk, sword, or pistol depending on what your unit was assigned. Of course, those requirements were changed in accordance with what the army would use. Heavy equipment such as cannon would be kept at the militia armory. That's where General Gage's troops were headed on April 19, 1775 when they were faced with Captain John Parker and his 70 militia men.
Militia was not voluntary. The statutes were made uniform, after the Constitution was ratified, by the Militia Act of 1792 in accordance with Article I, § 8, Cl. 16.
One more point, the National Guard is not Militia, nor can it be. The Constitution forbids this, and if you read U.S. v Miller carefully, Justice McReynolds points out that fact. National Guard are "Troops of War" that the States may keep "in time of Peace", by the consent of congress. However, like I said, no one wants the truth of the matter because it would actually require that the people of the community get up off their butts, and learn skills under the County Commander.
Great comment! Thank you for the boat load of information. Pinned it so others can see it.
@@TheRevoltingMan I'm glad you did. As the OP mentioned, the exact statutes can be elusive, but I'm aware that, since the National Guard becomes part of the Army during war ( some of the units that made the 1st wave assault troops at Normandy on June 6th, 1944, were National Guard units ) and militia are, by definition, a kind of "peoples' Army" and therefore comprised of civilian citizenry. I didn't know the Articles and sub-sections and the historical info the OP cited, but I like history, particularly military history, and those are interesting facts
Awesome history lesson my friend. Thank you!
@@JohnDavis-im1oy How would you perform the Duty commanded by the Constitution in this day and age with a musket, or unless designated as a sniper, how would you "repel Invasions" with a bolt action?
@@analyzeit6882 it says rifle... ar checks out... 1lb of powder (well carry enough ammo and you got that)... and 20 rounds of ball... well as long as you have 20 rounds of ball fmj your good right?
I've been given 3 LBVs over the years I like them except where the mag pouches are on my chest. I still keep one set up and ready though. Gave the other two to my brothers after I set them up.
My father built a setup near identical to yours right down to the glock knife, only difference was the mag pouches, he was a hardcore AK guy.
Lol, those AK guys are hardcore. I've run afoul of them on other videos. It's cool that someone has this set up though. I really like it. I love the Glock knife too.
I saw a updated version of that flashlight at tractor supply that has the new square light bulbs in it and has the lenses. Very cool
Thank you!
Army 11B here...82-06....wore this exact rig for years!!!!!
Add a ranger silva compass, ranger pace beads and a set signal pen flares you would have what I used for the SFQC course back in the day. Thx RM.
A compass seems like a must have as do the Ranger beads. Thanks for bringing them up.
Ooh Rah! Semper Fidelis!
I think this is a more realistic set up than most I've seen on CZcams. One thing that I'd highly recommend throwing in there, which maybe I missed but a good tourniquet
Great video. I never served but I do have all that stuff except the knife. It all works just fine. I got new stuff but keep that because I like it.
I'll probably upgrade too and keep this as a back up or for specific scenarios. I really like it though and it's a great starter rig.
I like old school stuff!👍
Duracell makes some great, bright lights, very budget-friendly. We switched all our maglights out for the duracells
I had one of those Duracell lights for years. The battery never went dead and it lasted until some kid lost it. Those are great, inexpensive little lights.
This old Nam vet still has his Alice gear and uses it. I gave a short class to my group on why I think the old style gear is superior to the modern day stuff, mostly because the canvas is much quieter then the newer nylon gear. Besides, it's much cheaper then trying to go full molle or LBV. So, like the Garand, it may be old, but that doesn't mean it still isn't a viable option for those on a budget or who likes retro.
The old ways are frequently the best.
The Garand packs a damn punch.
I still use the canvas mag pouches - butt packs and other canvas gear ...water proofed with wax and linseed oil .
you should check out tactical tailor they have nice upgrades to the alice gear...i use their stuff and it no joke tough....not over built just realy good quality gear...
I wish I could find a Garand that fits the "budget rifle" category hahah.
Just got turned on to your channel by Pastor Joe Fox. Am subscribing and binge watching. Thanks. By the way the Coast brand head lamps have a separate button so you are able to turn on your red light alone.
Good info thanks!
Durable, affordable, practical. Good setup. Thanks for posting!
Thank you for the nice comments Emanuel!
Love the vids. Keep them coming.
Thanks osu, we will.
wow! love it. I was in the Army in '82 when the Vietnam vets were my section chiefs and first sergeants. We called the "y" harness TA50. still have all of that gear in my duffle bag. You gave me an idea on how to repurpose the old stuff. Thanks for the memories.
Thanks for the info. I will forever call this my TA50 setup now.
Cool video and thank you for your service
I have the same set up because I had bits and pieces of kit already. Thanks Kenny
We were still issued a moonbeam in 2011. It came with a red, clear, and yes, a blue lens which was used for suicide watch and checking casualties for blood.
AWESOME!
Ya can't fool a fool
Corps still issued Moonbeans to us in '04. Tossed them for LED Mini Tomahawks w 4 Button (Off, Blue, Red & White) & the same setup for Rotatory Headlamps ie "Unofficial Mandatory Field List" & out of pocket, of course.
nothing wrong with the old deuce gear setup!
I like it. Thank you for commenting. I look forward to watching your videos!
Great video! I was in 80 to 84 and yes we had the blue lenses too. When I was in we had our H harness connect up front closer to the buckle and not back near your 3 o'clock where it looks like where you have yours
I had all that gear when I was enlisted. Used the it every day
We used it in boot camp but got some newer stuff in the fleet.
@@TheRevoltingMan Cool. I wouldn't mind a set now. The new stuff was after my time
I'm 60. Don't count me out!
Lol, I didn't expect guys to want in to this particular club.
I'm sure there would be many.
Sixty does seem like an arbitrary age to draw the line at. The Prepper Librarian is a little north of that and he is very capable.
North Georgia Viking here: Heck yeah TEXxos57, I say we raise it to 70. My dad is 66 and he's an Airborne Ranger and he's probably in better shape than me! He can and would still fight! Rangers lead the way.
Old timers have lots of knowledge too!!
that's post NAM. I run 2 of these plus running M1956 ( like the older shit) tip: cut off the metal attachments and run 550 cord. it cuts down any noise possibilities plus eliminates pressure points for rucks.
IIRC it was called 782 gear because it was what was listed on Form 782
I greatly appreciated this video and I myself have a Glock field knife(which is indestructible) and love it because its balanced for throwing. I would like a collaboration between you, Bear Independent and Paul Harrell. Again, thanks for the vid.
I would faint if I got to meet either of those guys.
moonbeam baby! Good video. Nice to see someone setup with practical gear that does not cost $3K. Semper Fi.
Very good, Thank you very much
Nice, you must be around same age as me, I was in Ft Jackson in 95. I miss the army navy stores we used to have up this way they closed down years ago.
I'm 41. It seems like the surplus stores are harder to find now doesn't it?
Yes, also the prices are higher shopping online. Kind of sucks for me as that is how I got my hunting gear now its hard on the wallet lol.
Yep.
Looks like mine I have the cup and stove the same knife, moonbeam but I did add a SOG Fasthawk to my load out as well. Woobie is life👍
We had moonbeams on MCRDPI in 2005. The blue lens was for recruits on suicide watch at night.
Really!? They were still using those things then huh? Thanks for the comments!
The blue lens is for checking for blood.
Huh, I had no idea. Thank you for this information.
I had the old moon beam flashlight , I went through Army boot camp in 1988. And in the Reserves.
Same here. Army basic in 1988 with the Y harness LBE and bulky right angle flashlight. Good times!
wow, never thought of using a harness, I use a shoulder bag like a banquet mobia ripoff or something like that that is compatible with MOLLE, sweet vid! The Revolting Man
Thanks Austin!
Went to boot camp AFTER you released this and they still issued moonbeams...
Lol, that’s awesome!
I was a scout in the late 90s and we used the old faithful LBE/LCE. Alls that matters is that it works!
We were in at the same time. I really liked the LBV.
Tractor supply sold/sells an angle headflashlight made of metal. They even come with lens filters. The Y harness is cool, but for more comfort I found the older M1956 H harness to be better. Maybe because it was canvas.
Hey, just found this channel. good information and entertainment here. thumbs way up!!
Thank you kriz I appreciate that.
Good to see it can be done on a budget.
We used the H harness in country...the M1956 canvas or M1967 nylon web gear...the Y harness like the alice pack,did not become standard issue untill the mid to late 70s.
I like your set up...i use a similar set of web gear to this day...like my gear i'm definitely old school...good stuff amigo!...woods
Thanks Woods! It is only with extreme caution that we should abandon what worked for those who came before us.
Good stuff! 👍
Super vidéo merci 👍🇨🇵🤙👍🇨🇵🤙
Thank you!
Great setup even today
minute man sounds like the Marines to me first to fight
Me too.
Love it man good stuff.
I heard old Maine Corps instant sub.
Man they still gave out the moon beam in boot camp in 2013
Lol, really?! I can't believe they haven't switched over some high speed, low drag tacti-cool unit yet. Thank you for the sub!
No problem.
They issue new ones that clamp on to the kevlar in the fleet but old school for boot camp