How To Install Kerdi-Board and Niche
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People like you make the world a better place, Shannon. This channel along with the HouseImprovements forum is such a great source of information.
Thank you!
That's exactly what I needed to see to find out how to fill the gap. Thank you!
"That should work... actually I just thought of something that probably would be easier". Aaaaand subscribed!
You don't know it but we just bonded. Love your videos!
Oddly enough, I'm in the process of remodeling a bathroom with a shower. I'd never seen Kerdi board before, so I really appreciate the video. I do all the work myself, so it being lightweight, and easy to handle makes it an exceptionally interesting option for the shower. Thank you again for another great video!
Much love from south Louisiana. Ive done so much because of you
I have never heard of this product! I'm so happy I found you and your videos! Thank you for taking your time and showing so much detail.
Good video. Finally a good explanation of how the Kerdy board meets the tub and how to seal it with the band.
Shannon, you do such quality work. You always seem to take your time which is great since a lot of guys just want to crank out as many jobs as possible and rush through things. Take care, buddy.
Thank you
I like Shannon's videos. He always has little spills and materials not acting like expected, etc. Just like happens to me. If you watch the official Kerdi videos, everything goes perfectly. Not sure if that ever happens in real life.
Another terrific video Shannon. Answering all my questions before having to ask them. I recently made and installed several cedar overhead garage doors and found your detailed OH door installation videos a God send. Before that I did a metal roof and again found your videos the best around. Many Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
Glad it was helpful!
I love watching you work.
Yeah me too. Hard work doesn't bother me, I can watch it for hours.
I love watching him work as well. He's a very handsome man.
Great video Shannon, glad you didn't skip any steps since they critically save problems which you can encounter when using the combination of products. Just the weight of the product alone changes the game on doing the project with less strain not directly applied to use the product. For instance, getting the product from the store to the site, then moving the product around easily in the work area. Thanks for a great video.
Thanks for getting the brand new trowel... I would have been so embarrassed for you ...🤣🤣🤣 Thanks again Shannon, you're awesome. 😉👍🏾
You are so welcome!
Another quality video from you guys! I used the Kerdi membrane over cement board on one of my bathroom remodels, but will be using the board on my other one when I get to it. Thanks so much for sharing!
Hey Shannon! - This is a timely video as I've never worked with Kerdi-board and want to use it to build my shower stall.
Mike Holmes talks about Kerdi all the time but your video is a far more detailed 'how-to' & easy to follow along with.
Another thing: I have never seen the preformed 'shelf' / niche piece & that is a great idea. Would make the prep for tile go much faster!
I am very surprised that the Kerdi-board doesn't need to be put up over drywall given that it's styrofoam cored!
nice product to work with for sure. it is on the pricey side but easy to use
I agree with you. Pricey, very Pricey. I used it in a recently remodeled bath. I'm very happy with it ☺.
KF is a silane modified polymer. kwikset makes one that is just as good at about half the price but its grey. Filling the joint between the board and tub flange with thinset will cause problems cuz of deflection between to two. Not flexible enough. Great vid btw Shannon!
🥰 Thank you! Great job explaining why you were doing every step. I feel ready to give this a try.
Nice video. I would skip the tape on the flange as you’ve packed so much sealant there and more will be added to the tile edge.
Shannon, I live in north Florida. I’m in the process of shower make over in our master bedroom bathroom. I see that you have plastic in between the insulation and the Kerdi board. The old shower was a three piece prefabricated unit. I’m going with tiling. I purchased the shower kit. So the one side of the shower is on the exterior wall. So I used some pink foam for insulation. I was hesitant on using the fiberglass type insulation on top of the pink foam, sorry I don’t remember what is called, anyway the reason for the hesitation was I didn’t want to get the fiberglass insulation to get wet and make a huge mess down the road. So if I go with it, do I need to put some plastic barrier between the insulation and the Kerdi board? Thanks for your advice and videos. I have been enjoying them for a few years.
Thank you for providing good video on tile. I going to replace the shower with walk in shower and I am thinking using Tile Redi base and goboard. What do you think? and Do you have any suggestion for me.
I loved the one with circle holes...
I can't tell you how many times I've measured and transferred those measurements to a piece of sheetrock and got the holes in the wrong location. I can more accurately tell you how many times I've gotten it right: never. I switched to marking the x and y on the sheet from the marks where it's going to go (with blue tape transfers on the walls and ceiling locating the fixtures). I seem to get that right within an acceptable margin every time.
This video series has helped me tremendously with my bathroom remodel! Thank you for that! Have you run into any issues with the niche on the exterior wall?
Awesome instructional video! Thank you for posting this video! God bless.
Thanks for this video. Question I have is given it’s an exterior wall, what did you do for insulation behind the niche?
Hi Shannon, Do I need to add the fleece tape on the inside corners of the niche? Thank you for providing so much knowledge!
No the inside of the niche is complete from factory
Great video Shannon
Also the video is titled "How to Install Kerdi-Board and Niche" not " Choosing the best product for every scenario, skill level and budget and you must use this product because it's the best."
great video. Thanks for showing all the details. Really helpful as always.
Very nice video and well presented.
Your videos are so good! They're the first place I go to when I am about to tackle a project.
I am about to refinish my bathroom and had purchased cement board for the walls and floor, but would prefer to use this now that I know about it. Will the Kerdi-board be able to support 12" x 24" porcelain tiles that weigh about 8 1/2 pounds each? Thanks in advance for the help!
I’m tackling my first renovation project and find your videos VERY helpful. Detailed and easy to follow. On this video, how do you address the seam between the kerdi board and drywall?
What I do is keep that joint just inside of the tile area, you can cover the joint with mesh tape if you wnat when you apply mortar but its relaly not needed IMO. install your tiles so they lap onto the drywall.
Can you provide feedback on the structural integrity of these foam panel after tiling is complete?
Hey Shannon! Love all your videos keep up the great work. I wanted to ask can you do a video on how to install French Trench to help with drainage in your yard? Thanks if you can!
Thank you so much your videos are so detailed and helpful
Excellent presentation !!
Good video. Thank you
should you use a niche on an exterior wall?
Love this guys videos.
You really know your stuff, great presentation!
Tman NC no he doesnt
It looks like the most advanced sheeting material for wet areas! However the most of experts I told about are keen to use a Villaboard instead (as a kind of cement sheets) for bathrooms. Do you know the reason other that~ 4 times price difference? Are these panels really strong for heavy tiles up to the ceiling (~2400 high) or for a half wall only? Thank you
Thanks Shannon, excellent video.
Glad it was helpful!
So you have the tiling part if this shower niche ?
I love you videos...I built a shed after watching your shed video. Anyway, what do you call the plastic membrane you used under the kerdi board?
thank you
Would I need a paint membrane on top of boards? Like “aqua-defence or red guard”
Help!!!…..Question - if the Kerdi board is waterproof then why was it necessary to apply a vinyl vapor barrier? Won’t water get trapped between the vapor barrier and the Kerdi board?
The poly vapour barrier is only on exterior walls in my area. The Kerdi board does not qualify as a air/vapour barrier.
The only thing for me is cost and labor, I know it is the trend. Great vid.
Great video
Nice job Shannon.
Hi Shannon, great video. I've been watching and learning lots from your channe/video almost 10 years now. I just noticed that you didn't put insulation at the back of the niche. I am from central canada, and we get -45C temp here. Do you think that niche can protect the inside from our kind of weather? Is there a space on the back of that niche to put insulation? Thanks.
In this case these Niches take up the whole wall space (2x4 walls) In this case though I have 2" rigid foam on the exterior of my home so I have some R value there at least. You would be better off in an interior wall if you dont have foam outside.
What do you recommend for fastening the kerdi board to cement block wall with furring strips?
You could use blobs of mortar or shorter stainless steel screws with the kerdi washers.
@@HouseImprovements thanks! Im going to use shorter screws. Is every 12 inches still good, or should I use more screws since they are shorter?
Would you install cement board directly over a plastic vapour barrier?
It's a new shower installation, 1 wall is exterior, insulated+vapour barrier. I've heard that cement board over the plastic vapour barrier in Canada is a no, no.
Just got home from a local hardware store, where I got 2 different suggestions from 2 different experts there.
I have never heard of this.
@@HouseImprovements thanks for your reply. The theory is that, installing tiles over thin set, over roll on moisture membrane(redguard), over cement board, over the plastic vapour barrier, may cause condensation between the cement board and the plastic vapour barrier. The moisture may be trapped with no ability to dry, causing potential for mold or rot. Seems that many "experts" refer to this as a "moisture sandwich ". Is there some truth to this, from your perspective, or are we DIYers here in the Canadian prairies just being misinformed?
now do a video of kerdi board and glass tile (painted back)
Do you know how to fix half house that went without power? I changed all the wall fixtures and even circuit breaker and still nothing!
try asking your question in my forum. we can maybe help you track this down. it is likely a bad wire or connection.www.house-improvements.com/forums/
Question- if anyone knows: Is the Kerdi board backing necessary is there will be a fiberglass surround installed over it?
If you are installing a fibreglass shower stall you don't use anything on the studs , the shower installs right to the wood studs
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Thank you Shannon. What are the two best alternatives to Kerdi? Do you by any chance have videos on those?
I have a house in north eastern maine (basically canada) that I am remodelling. We found tremendous amounts of mold in the laundry/bathroom. The composition of the walls was wood paneling on drywall with plastic behind the drywall. Because of this I am really leary to put up a vapor barrier. I had to gut the whole room down to studs including willing out the entire subfloor and even some of the floor joists. I am about to start putting up the schluter system for the new tub alcove, any thoughts on the vapor barrier?
It is required and was likely not done properly before and /or you had a water leak or problem before in that room that was not properly dealt with. Our forum is a great place for help with things like this.www.house-improvements.com/forums/
@@HouseImprovements Thank you for the response! Yes there were leaks and I think the wood panelling on drywall w vapor barrier behind was the real culprit. I really want the house to breathe though and I am not putting it up on the walls. Might on the ceiling, still researching that. Cheers mate
Brilliant video
Great instruction.
Glad it was helpful!
great work thank you
Nice video. Next time, concrete board and redguard so much easier
Would there be any merit to sheathing the wall for smaller tile or use something else?
What do you do for the seam between the kerdi board and your drywall?
Kerdi band. Apply the thinset, then embed the Kerdi band
Thanks
Did you ever make a video on how to tie the walls into the dam using Schluter trim? I have looked everywhere and I can't find it on their website and no one has posted anything and there's no pictures of a finish shower showing Schluter trim on the dam both sides and tying into the vertical on the outside!?!?!
I have never done that.
I am concerned about not having insulation behind the niche? Exterior wall and no insulation, I am not an expert and want to know what Shannon thinks about the niche position in terms of not being able to insulate behind it?
scratch that I see you addressed that in another video. Awesome, you are amazing.
Outstanding!!!
What’s behind the Nich besides vapor barrier. Is there any insulation. My outside wall is 2x6.
My wall is 2x4 with 2" foam on the outside of the home so i can get away with the nice on the exterior. You could add 2" foam I believe behind the niche because I believe they are 3-1/2" deep
Great job thanks
No problem 👍
Can you use these products for the floor as well before tiling?
Kerdi board is not designed for use on the actual floor. Ditra is a better product for the floor as long as it is not in a shower. Check out Schluter's full line of tiling products on line.
@@HouseImprovements thank you
Thanks for the video. Really appreciate your series, really informative. I’m doing my master bath Reno and was planning on doing the niche you used. I’m concerned about the lack of insulation I would have on the exterior wall. I realize the niche itself is made of foam but when it’s -20 outside do you think that’s enough? Was the niche a full 2x4 deep. Not sure if your from a cold climate area or not. Thanks again.
I'm in the prairies of Canada...so ya its cold here. This home has 2" of styrofoam insulation on the outside or I would not have done that niche there. Some others have expressed concern on that as well and I should have mentioned it in the videos but did not think of it. I also have measured the temp of the wall inside ,at the niche and at the fully insulated wall. I think it was .5 Degree difference? cant remember.
HouseImprovements I actually didn’t realize my outside walls are 2x6 so I can probably still get some insulation behind there right and be ok. Thanks for your response. I’m sure it must keep you busy.
@@ianjones7526 Yes that is good . I would use 2' rigid foam behind and around it to get the most R value per inch that you can. If you come to the forum I can go into more detail if you need it. www.house-improvements.com/forums/
Thank You!
Is the plastic wrap necessary for the exterior wall? I’m using Hydro Ban foam board and was wondering if I needed the plastic wrap behind it
If you are required to have a vapour barrier in your area then you need the poly vapour barrier on exterior walls or ceilings.
@@HouseImprovements thanks, where do I find that kind of information about my area? My wall had a Thermo Ply sheet in the back but I wasn’t planning on replacing it cause I’m using an all water proof foam board.
@@HouseImprovements That is a bit confusing why would you need a vapor barrier when Kerdi board already serves as one ?? I know that it is a bad idea to have double barrier as the moisture will be trapped in between no ?
My house has steel studs so is there an option for getting screws that work on steel studs?
You need a fine thread screw and they do not offer them for this product. You could add wood blocking into studs? or use Schluter other product Kerdi water proofing membrane . It can be installed over other products like drywall.
@@HouseImprovements Why not buy self tapping screws and replace those originals?
You dont have the use kerdi brand screws.
Are the kerdi niche sloped at all to allow for water to drain and not sit
no ,slope your bottom tile slightly.
that boad is not sturdy....so its the tiles and thinset that will the wall sturdy?
Would i use penny tiles on this for the entire wall? No, but it is stronger once the tiles are on for sure.
How do you waterproof around the window, especially if its much lower than the one in the video???
silicone is really your best bet. Seal between the tile trim and the window jamb. If you have more questions please use my forum.www.house-improvements.com/forums/
Adam Pakula you really can’t, as a window is made to stop water from outside going inside.
In other videos they say that a vapour barrier isn’t needed when using the Kerri board.
If you live where a vapour barrier is required it is needed on the warm side of any exterior wall or ceiling that has a warm and a cold side. You may be confusing this with a plastic barrier that some people THINK they need to use behind shower walls to control moisture from the shower. In this video what you seen on the wall was a air/vapour barrier not a form of moisture control for the shower wall. We can discuss this more in the forum if you want to ask more about it.www.house-improvements.com/forums/
Thanks for answering me! I understand what you’re saying. Here is a link to a Sal Dilblasi video czcams.com/video/NyGjGepUVqo/video.html where he doesn’t install a vapour barrier behind the schluter. I asked him and he said that there was no need to install it behind Kerdi.
I have a feeling that these guys don't need vapour barriers where they are since there was not even insulation covering that concrete wall below the wood wall.?
do you have to buy kerdi band
Kerdi band goes on all joints and fasteners
👍thank you
Why do you need the Kerdi band on the caulk? Its sealed either way.
It is recommended and good practice to make sure that bottom seal is good.
Noticed overflow not connected ?
I left cover off to protect it from damage
While it is certainly a good product the amount of extra sealing with the strips is no different to what I did with cement board/durock on my shower and at less cost.
Andrew Carr kerdi is way better, lighter, and non permeable.
If you use cement board it really still should be water proofed before tiling with something like Red Guard . And this is so much easier to move and cut.
A 3x5 Kerdi board costs about $35. Same sized cement board $10. So... everyone is going to want to, and possibly should be using Kerdi, but the cost will determine what's used for a lot of people.
why not just use a cement backarboard?
It needs to be water proofed after install before adding tiles, this saves that step.
Kerdi acts as a vapor barrier, so you didn’t need to put up a standard drywall vapor barrier.
Kerdi is a nice product however, the level of attention and expertise required to install properly totally takes it out of production work this is custom only.
I could have tile that tub in thinset in the length of time that you have taken to prep it. No offense, just stating the obvious
Richard Harris you still have to use some type of hardie board which is even heavier to work with and stuff like that so wouldn’t it make it a similar install time ?
@@armychris9148 no, you're saving 45 lbs I can carry that in 1 trip, not much time saved
U still have to do all those steps with dura rock plus u have to red guard it before u tile. So I don’t see how u could do it faster.
Another video.
Can I ask your business inquiries address?
Your thumbnail looks like you're installing a glory hole... Good video by the way.
LOL
That's 'Dirti-Board'... " wholly " different product!
@@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin LOL
Kerdi is sooo expensive
Too expensive.