Joe Schoen closed the Saquon Barkley door to open the Brian Burns window
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- Hard Knocks Review - Episode 1:
The guys look at how Joe Schoen discussed the early days of negotiations with Saquon Barkley, a clear pivot in roster construction, and where Shane Bowen will change the Big Blue Defensive mentality.
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Barkley was way over rated never amounted to what we thought waiting for him to possibly make a big play was frustrating glad we got burns 👍
Clearly you don’t know football 🏈 smh
@@user-os3md9wo2qno clearly you don’t want to face how Barkley never lived up to his draft day expectations. DJ already outplayed his initial draft day disappointment. You need to take a reality check. The only way Barkley is getting a gold jacket is he buys his own or start selling real estate or renting cars. 25-48-1 when he can get on the field. Closing in on 30 & disappears when needed. What was your point again?
He’s a good back. But we never should’ve drafted him. He’s going to be a lot more effective on the Eagles with that O line and the other weapons they have. He’s a finishing piece in today’s NFL. Dave Gettleman drafted him thinking it was still the eighties where you build an offense around a running back.
@@95Ldunc Didn’t the Eagles suck & implode @ the end of the season last year? Did you forget about that?
@@95LduncHowie Rosemam got caught slipping. He tried to make Schoen bid against himself. High ankle sprain around week 6 & then nothing as usual.
Ralph Kiner led the league in home runs- after season he tells his GM, Branch Rickey, I want a big raise: Rickey says “I finished last with you , and I can finish last without you”.
(insert SB & JS?) )
THE JOE SCHOEN GROUPIES IS A REAL THING, DEFENDING 2 STEPS FWD & 3 STEPS BACK IS INDEFENSIBLE FOR ME, u CAN SPIN ANYTHING. Yea WE GOT BURNS BUT DJ IS STILL HOLDING THE QB SPOT FOR HOSTAGE FOR YET ANOTHER YEAR!!! THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION & IF HE DOESN'T EXCEED EXPECTATIONS THE BURNS ARGUMENT GOES UP IN FLAMES.
Great breakdown Just subbed. I'm 48 and a lifelong Giants fan. Only thing id say you wanna reconsider your opinions on, is that John Mara is not the puppy dog and Shoen is the Boss. Not even close. If Shoen doesn't get more wins he's gone. Mara still counts a Billion in the bank. Shoen so far is a failure as a Giant. Shoen seems verrrry cocky. Not sure its a good luck tbh. Winning will change my mind
The second round pick is close to a first round pick … so let’s say Carolina wanted a first round pick and a cherry on top perhaps a 1st and 6th …
So an almost 1st pick (ie very good 2nd) and a 5th makes sense for both
@@jmazzella1 yeah I think the early asset chatter is again “ask for the world and work back from there”
Depending on how rough the season goes, likely a top 35 pick.
Awesome show keep up the great content let's go GIANTS
@@thomasfrank1009 appreciate you Thomas 🤙
When you look at it , you can have 1 13M$ RB, or fill the entire RB room for just over half that money. Considering the holes on the roster, it's even more tempting to save $.
Singletary was one of the RBs I wanted to get if Saquon left. Once we signed him, I moved on.
@@Redd_Fawkes yep and none of them won’t even be close to saquon.
We had, and still have the cap space to have signed Barkley. Remember when you resign a can be a lot more creative with the signing bonus and void years. We also could've released Waller with a June 1st destination and / or reworked AT contract.
Go look up Johnathan Brooks Carolina selection. There's clip of Dan Morgan in the war room stated that we needed to move a head the Giants because they had Brooks in for a 30 visit, and they lost Barkley.
@mikaeloliver6698 Yeah, but I highly doubt Schoen would spend high draft capital on rb position. He had to talk Mara out of that thinking. I think Dallas was more of a concern given they hadn't brought in any free agent rbs.
The hiring of Shane by Daboll was typical …Shane reports to Daboll so it is Dabolls hire.
But just as in any business once Daboll vets who he would like to hire he runs it by his boss to get his input and see if there are any objections.
This is how 99.9 percent of hires happen… nothing strange with the exchange
@@jmazzella1 the “strange” is only in where the organization, GM, and Coach all stand.
Ownership has often guided staff hires.
Good stuff. We shall see if these moves by Joe S. are good for the team.... In September
@@Bjready2 yup plenty of hurry up and wait energy lol
Look for defenses to pin there ears back and go all in daniels y🎉ou could have let daniels test the market so if you if you have a terrible season coming then your stuck eating 40 mil,as opposed to eating 12 mil at least you could have took dak and still been a better upgrade than daniels,
I don’t know why anyone is even surprised. The Giants are a legacy organization. There was no way they would allow hard knocks to come in without the Giants having full control.
Head Coach and General Manager have great jobs but coming from Buffalo is completely overrated and they really have absolutely no credibility.
Buffalo really hasn't won anything
Go Big Blue
But wait a min, isn't that exactly what Philly is doing? Paying Jalen Hurts 50+ mil to hand off to 13.5 mil rb, and throw to two 25-30+ mil wrs.
Sure, but the Eagles ALREADY have 2 big-threat WRs to throw to. Barkley won't be getting 30 - 40 touches a game. In a passing league, a "star" RB is a luxury piece...and the Eagles could afford it with the other pieces in place.
Eagles are loaded everywhere and we have too many holes to tie 53 million on two players
Exactly. Thank you for sensibility. Not to mention they have a better team overall.
Go watch the episode. That’s not the spirit in which he said it. He said it in the spirit that it was a general rule.
What hurts is giants burned a #2 pick and eagles gave nothing
The only thing the first hard knock did is told me what I already know. Joe Schoen will be gone soon cause he clearly don’t what he’s doing. Paid Daniel jones $160M then give burns $160M when he only had 8 sacks and got paid. So that’s $320 M for two players with holes everywhere. Everyone in that room talking about saquon. was looking at Joe s like he was an idiot. Watching that last night made me feel like this was personal.
@@user-os3md9wo2q Brian Burns is tied for 14th in the NFL in total sacks last two seasons.
Brian Burns did that with no help. 8 sacks and somewhere around 30 pressures without another good pass rusher. So watch what he does this season with Dex and Kayvon. U pay for QB’s, pass rushers, and Oline. Then u fill out the rest of the roster
@@onegiantpodcast he did that by himself. So imagine what he can do with the help he has now! Thank u for that
@@4thqtrGoya i hope burns ball out, but $160M for 8sacks. and I bet in 2025 he won’t have more sacks then thibodeaux. Now if you want to talk about filling a roster. You keep saquon you Xavier McKinney. Those positions are filled already. Now look at another need. Between Daniel jones & burns contracts clueless Joe Schoen could’ve used over $200am. on wholes the giants have needs everywhere on both sides of the ball. This GM is not the guy and the first episode of hard knocks. Should’ve showed you just that. His whole staff looking at him like he’s a total idiot. I just hope Mara give dayboll more time. When GM Joe get dumped
In the end frat boy shay shay will be looked at as one of worst GMs the Giants have ever had. Worse than DG.
He didint close one window to open the next. He clearly was too cheap to pay for a top RB and dumb enough to overpay for a trashcan QB
Wink, was already gone before they started filming.
I wish you his stick to the facts of what happened on the show. I wish you CZcamsr’s had a call in show. You would get destroyed.
Thanks for watching!
How do you know that? The hard knocks official site says they began filming in January. Wink left in early/mid Jan. Just because they didn't show any footage on the show until early feb doesn't mean they didn't film those things. Maybe I'm missing something?
@@rjrjr1 Wink cussed out and walked out on January 10th. Everyone knows that they were not filming two days after the last game of the season. They may have came in to set up cameras in January. But they weren’t filming at the end of last season, but the start of the new season. What am I missing😆
@@fkyofellings5709 idk that everyone knows that lol. I have no clue when they set up their cameras. Either way, I wouldn’t have expected they’d show wink exploding when Brian fired Drew Wilkins. But to completely dismiss and barely discuss that situation just to talk about every FA RB was kinda lame. They made the wink situation a footnote when it was the biggest offseason story so far imo.
@@rjrjr1 well I’m certain that there was no cameras set up during last season. Also the Drew brother’s and Wink situation made news at the end of regular season. But was forgotten about with national media one the playoffs got rolling. The beginning of the 2024 season hadn’t started when they all got fired or quit. So why would anyone expect to have that footage. Like true NY fans, they rather hear about drama with the team. They want to hear how bad there QB is how we should’ve kept an aging RB that fans thought he shouldn’t have been picked when he was picked, how our coach and GM may get fired if we don’t have a winning season. Go Big Blue!