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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2017
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Includes all scenes when failing deadlines.
Persona 5 ALL BAD ENDINGS
Early game overs: Joker! What have you done?! You changed the future! You've created a time paradox!
Metal Gear x Persona:
Phantoms of the Shadow
I can imagine Futaba saying that after joker gets shot
Joker, you can't change the future like that! You have to understand the future better!
The revival pill
I think that it was more of the drugs affecting his memory where the game used as an excuse to be able to fail.
5:30 "HE'S KILLED HIMSELF!"
Bruh, do you SEE a gun anywhere next to his hands?
the same cop who yelled that will put a gun near him
He was in the plan the whole time, he didn't even check the interrogation room because he knew Akechi had killed him
That is pretty weird, because when the villain assassinates Joker, they are shown placing the gun in Joker's hand to make it look like a suicide, however, after the cutscenes, Joker is lying in a completely different position than he originally died in during the cutscenes, and the gun is nowhere to be seen, let alone in his hand.
NeoShadowWolf or the fact he has a bullet hole in his forehead the whole thing is pretty sketch like who shoots themself like that
@@Kamey2 Yukari
6:40, now THAT's a bad ending. You failed to give Sae your phone, you get shot by Akechi, but your death is PERMANENT and your stuck in the velvet room, FOREVER
And worst of all it "stuffy" in there. At least according to marie
Max1238 And other bad ending to made a deal with the god and you let everyone else die in that Velvet Room
I’m gonna regret watching that.
Max1238 without forgetting the end that your teammates are going to do as well because YOU sold them out
Then he comes back to life for his next games
Nobody:
Sojiro in the bad endings: Coffee good for you?
Nah curry is good
@@TheMasterPlayGame123 *Paradox avoided*
HEY! COFFEE GOOD FOR YOU???
@@adamraserovaquera the cops with the warrant are too enamoured by the curry to issue the arrest lmao
heck with the coffee just gave hin a lawyer .
I didnt meet the deadline bc i was too busy trying to get the stats to eat that burger so i can raise my guts lmao
Burgers are life
Big mood
Pathetic
Imagine :0
@@fosterthecat6625 bruh it so easy to get boldness up to!
Imagine being imprisioned for the rest of eternity with Igor and the Twins, they watch you shit on a toilet that has no privacy whatsoever every single day of existence.
The worst part is, there are probably people who want the wardens watching them shit
@@square-blimp Please don't say that.
@@square-blimp 😂
Who is he gonna shit
If there isn't a food
@@goroakechi2216 WHO?
The worst part is that coffee went to waste.
😩😩😫😫
One detail I love is that in later palace failures, Sojiro's attitude to the protagonist changes as the game progresses.
Kamoshida and Madarame: Doesn't give a damn and wants nothing to do with the protagonist.
Kaneshiro: Shocked at the protagonist's predicament.
Futaba: Protective towards the protagonist
Okumura and Sae Niijima: Let down by the protagonist as by this point, Sojiro knows about the Phantom Thieves leader.
And you can hear it in his tone when he asks “Coffee good for you?”. After Madarame’s palace it becomes more and more caring
Actually, he didn't know you were in the Phantom Thieves until after Okumura's Palace.
So does Futaba’s deadline mean she snitched on Joker for being a Phantom thief?
Okay, but why does Sojiro snitch on him in the last one he's involved in?
Can we talk about how Makoto DESPITE going along with the plan to change Kaneshiro’s heart, gets arrested for smuggling!
I like how as the charges get more dire, the police officers uniform changes from typical officer clothing to wearing a bulletproof jacket
You're right, I didn't even notice the first time around. Crazy
That ending where Futaba gives you up to the police, also gets Sojiro arrested... Meaning Futaba herself will have to go back to whichever fucked up relative is willing to take her this time around. God, she doomed herself... Truly an unjust game :/
It's implied Futaba rats you out, and then killed herself.
Tbh, she did it to herself. There's no sense in crying over shooting yourself in the foot.
Actually, the japanese version comfirms she actually committed suicide and whatever parents she used to be living with reported the protagonist and Sojiro to the police.... honestly just thinking about it makes me upset...
@@Blueadvent98 what the fuck 😟
If you remember, even though Futaba was Medjed, there was a phony Medjed and this is the one that causes the need for the deadline in Futaba's palace. It is the imposter that frames you.
Futaba mentions that the other Medjed is a fake after she hacks them and there is another mention of the second Medjed in Shido's palace; the IT company exec mentions to Futaba that Shido put his company up to using Medjed as a target, because the anonymous nature of the hacker would make infiltration impossible
I think the Kaneshiro one is the worst fail, since Kaneshiro implied that he forces girls into prostitution and the police found Makoto selling illegal services. I think you people can put together what I mean.
Yep
The good girl pushover but she didn't deserve that.
that was super dark, really wasn't expecting they'd go there
Yeah I wanted to see what would happen to Makoto:(
Yeah, the ending with the girl being forced into prostitution is obviously worse than the one where the dude gets his head blown up while everyone else is dammed to die as well
@@joseangelrobleto7370 well knowing the Shin Megami Tensei franchise they have done alot of darker stuff. This is Disneyland in comparison to some of the other stuff for sure :')
The absolute worst ending (even more than the ones where you get killed) is the one where Makoto is forced into drugs and prostitution. Like, holy crap, that's enough to ruin my week.
Not really. In the one where you get killed, Akechi literally goes out and kills the rest of the phantom thieves and your associates too.
The fact that the Mementos Depths theme plays for the bad credits make the bad endings hit harder
They did the same with p3 and p4
13:29 the fact they decided to play THIS MUSIC on the credits screen for this kind of ending is some of the most symbolistic shit ive ever seen in a work of fiction
This ending is after you fail to work up a deal with sae. Where you fail to give her the phone to put the grand plan of the phantom thieves in action. The P5 protag is now dead. No one is left to save the world from certain ruin, and the world will forever stay under the imprisonment of the god of control, Yaldabaoth.
I think the worst thing is that Makoto was taken and drugged and who knows what else they did to her
She was in an illegal services venue, *wink wink* *nudge nudge* prostitution. She was most likely forced into selling "the goods", and the game doesn't do much to hide that implication.
I really hate imagining that ending. It seriously makes me feel sick
I'd not mind Makoto getting such predicament if it didn't result in a bad ending.
@@Pe6De you what.
@@sans-was-taken-. That's the only thing she deserves in this game.
Yeesh, I dodged a lot
@@metalblade8986 how corious, i actually had no problem agaisnt Yaldabaoth using only one soma but i barely win against shido after 3 or 4 attempts yet i see a lot of people like you i dont understand why
Me too
Moral of the story: Take down bad guys and don't screw over your friends!
The criminal lesson: Don't have a favourite food or else you'll get caught. (Akechi and his Delicious Pancakes)
Palace Failures
Kamoshida - 0:00
Madarame - 0:52
Kaneshiro - 1:44
Futaba - 2:23
Okumura - 3:23
Ending for each - 4:24
Shido's Palace Failure
Deny to being the leader of PT - 5:39
Admit to being the leader of PT - 6:19
Sae's Interrogation Wrap-up - 6:42
Deny/Confess selling out teammates - 7:03
Futaba is worse since sojiro gets in trouble and futaba since she's always alone and no pursuit towards the one who killed her besides yusukes. But why drug induce?
5:39
And 6:19
Scare me the most
What's weird is that, even after Joker is rescued and returns to the Phantom Thieves, when you game over the screen still takes on that hazy, dreamlike effect. Every Palace prior to Tae's and the revelation that Akechi is a traitor has that same dreamlike filter, which makes sense seeing as it's Joker recounting the events of the game up until that point. The bad endings are basically Joker's false memories and him imagining what would've happened if he had failed those times. It's still game over though, because he failed to correctly remember and explain exactly what happened to Tae and convince her to show his phone to Akechi. Even after that though, if you fail Shido's Palace you still get a bad ending with that same filter implying it's just a dream/Joker's imagination. I'm not certain if this is just a convenient way of signaling to the player they got a bad ending, or if that effect is meant to imply that Shido's bad ending is a nightmare or a hallucination/delusion as a result of the drugs from the interrogation still messing with Joker's brain?
@@shadowx2652she backstab joker
I legitimately got the first bad ending for missing Kamoshida's dealine. The calling card messed up for me. Did everything last minute
Same
Just happened to me right now, all those hours...
Literally the same thing. Once Morgana mentioned the calling card I got SO pissed off!
@@taccoo It fucking sucks.. especially all the bullshit back tracking in the first palace
Why do people play the game like this?
Fanon Akechi: uwu gay pancake prince, joker’s tsundere rival-to-lover
Canon Akechi: Rootin’ Tootin’ Akira gets a shootin’
this is the funniest thing I’ve read in so long
Akechi in Persona 5 Royal: after we solve this situation i am going to literally kill you and your friends
Akechi in persona 5 Royal, according to the fandom: yay i can't wait to solve this problem with my gay boyfriend and eat some pancakes afterwards!
@@inaciobits682 that's. Not at all what happens in royal what are you on about
@@user-wv5ue7ny6u he literally says that, once in a cutscene and the other one in a mementos conversation
@@inaciobits682 he not once said that he wants to kill them. Even said that if he wanted to, he would've already. That, and the translation often fucked up and made his lines way more harsh then they were originally meant to be. I don't know what dialogue youre talking about, so I cannot say what the og line was, but I doubt those lines exist in the first place
The part that hurts more is when sochiro sad "god, what a dissapointment" I didn't grew up with a dad most of my life but hearing those words just gave me a wave of guilt
Akechi reminds me so much of Light Yagami...
Akechi was based on Light Yagami.
light yagami
A detective, hair style, eye color, and also all you need is a name in order to change someone’s heart but with other steps
That’s what I just thought of rn lmao!
I thought I was the only one 😂
I got the ending where Akechi killed me, I thought the game was tricking me like have faith in your friends/bonds and that Sae would connect with them and save Ren. The second I saw Akechi make the villain face and say foolish woman I knew that I for sure fucked up
You had to tell sae mostly everything but not sell out your friends and confidants .And get sae to take your phone which futaba uses her trick
Coffee good for you?
Is that your name?
You received allegations from Micah Bell, you know him right?
@@GrandeDubstep nah dude my name is Akira kurusu , also known as joker.
No Sojiro, coffee isn’t good for me
HEY! COFFEE GOOD FOR YOU?
These are all pretty bad and the way Sojiro says "you really screwed things up" in the later ones really hurts. Like goddammit Sojuro do you have to kick a man when he's down? The bit with Igor is a real kick in the balls, too. Especially when you consider "Igor" is the one responsible for the impending ruin. That's how you know he's fake, the real Igor wouldn't be such a dick to you if you failed... er, I hope. I mean I've never played any other Persona game so I don't really know but he doesn't seem like that type of person. I think the most disturbing one though is if you fail Kaneshiro's palace. Like holy shit, Makoto gets kidnapped, probably sold as a prostitute, and drugged and the police eventually find her but not before they've broken her both physically and mentally. Jesus fucking christ.
If u realize, his voice lmao
These are called “bad” endings, after all lol.
The persona 4 Igor is canonically the one who sent you back in time to prevent the bad ending from happening, the only game with an evil Igor is 5
Well, there IS a mod for P3 and P4 where Igor roasts you for sucking at the combat.
Damn, I actually wonder what Futaba's reaction is when she incidentally turned Sojiro in too when she turn Joker in. Likely not good.
forgive my necroposting but in the japanese version its confirmed she killed herself
Otacon: Joker? Are you there? Joker? JOOOOOOKEEER!!!!!!!!
futabacon
@@Sage_the_Turt "futa bacon" just sounds wrong 😵
I don't think coffee is good for me
2:02
That part broke me...
I kinda wanna see Sae during Makoto’s trial in that ending.
@@TheBrutalSax None of those endings actually happened. You're so drugged up, you start imagining the worst case scenario and Sae can't get the actual turn of events from you so she gives up.
she didnt have a choice, AND it's our problem that this happened because we ignored the timeline
5:15 Dammit, I know this is a terribly dire situation, but for whatever reason I just burst out laughing
It's the pew sound
Love how it's not an actual gunshot sound and just **pew**
@@Hummingb1rd The gun has a silencer so I think that'd be the appropriate noise
Joker's falling animation does it for me tho
@@SubconsciousDeviant no silencers just slightly quiet the shot
Man, I love it when my presumed friend blows my brains out.
Oh im sureeeeee you dooo
right? it’s cute~
I just love how akechi looks EVIL
Also the Igor one looks like a joke lmao
mans is gru with an even bigger god complex
Akechi: This game is over!
The Gaming Mole: Brad_Ry Major Zero, Akechi, You would create a Time Paradox for saying that!
You forgot the Igor Bad Ending.
Considered ''Good''
That's technically the good ending, with the actual good ending being the true ending
Well is that a "BAD" ending starblade?
@@KordintheHusky Weird how the ending where you betray all of your friends is considered the "Good" ending.
@@BuffMaister How is betraying your friends and siding with the villain considered a "good" ending?!
2:07
Damnit Makoto. Just _HAD_ to drag me under the bus with you huh, *_TRAITOR?_*
im so sorry for her...
good that im a good leader!
she didnt have a choice
with what we know about persona 5 police, they could kill her if she didnt say anything. AND it's our problem that this happened because we ignored the timeline
Why does the bad ending slap harder than the true ending?!
Because its sadder, thank god its a fake ending.
@Febmar sescon stop lmao
What happened to Morgana in the bad endings is he taken to the shelter or is he staying with sojiro?
Sojiro really likes Morgana, so I'm definitely sure he'd keep him.
In most endings Morgana provablly gets taken care of by Sojiro or goes stray, but in the Shido bad ending he's provablly killed.
It's probably just slipped from the protagonist's mind, as these "Bad endings" are apparently just him recalling the events of the past incorrectly because of the drugs
Doesn’t shido say to akechi 'make sure you kill that weird cat too'
Pretty sure somewhere before bad end happens when you fail to complete palace, morgana says that he’s going to find answers in the metaverse by his own
Bruh i dont even care about the charges. Im sad that Papa Sojiro is disappointed in me.
joker doesn't even get to die. he just stays in that cell forever
Akira Kurusu
That is your name, yes?
Actually my name is Ren Amamamiya.
Oh , sorry to bother you sir, have a good day~
and bad ending avoided.
Underrated comment.
You are a f*cking genius.
We did it boys... bad endings are no more.
This stresses me out to watch. Yeesh.
Same, considering that 95% of us never failed
Hell, i would normally complete the palaces in 2-5 in game days, I'm focusing on leveling up my Charm and Guts most of the time and i stock a ton of SP items
0:00 to 4:13 if you miss the deadline from Kamoshida to Sae
5:34 to 6:38 the Shido deadline miss
9:01 selling out the team
Akechi... Adachi...
hmmmm...
I’m glad I’m not the only one who found this out
Galactic Potato people with names starting with "a" and ending with "chi" cannot be trusted
Persona 6 villain Imichi confirmed
Asochi
Amichi
So was anyone really surprised Akechi was a traitor? He hated the Phantom Thieves from the beginning
I'm almost certain 95% of people know Akechi is up to no good on a first playthrough, the genius is how they deal with it and how they trick him without telling you.
I caught onto the pancake reaction way before it was revealed so I was positive he was up to something when he suddenly wanted to team up with us
Hell even the Phantom Thieves saw it comming
I caught on to pancakes right away on my first run so I kinda knew. I wasn’t a 100% sure if it was on purpose until he was revealed.
I never trusted the dude but I couldn't exactly put my finger on why I didn't. Then when Mona mentioned pancakes on the reveal I was like that gif of Leonardo DiCaprio pointing his finger vigorously.
2:02 My god, in this timeline it wouldn’t surprise me if Sae killed you herself that is dark
REALLY needed some timestamps to identify it all.
Just recognize the dates
Hey! Coffee good for you?
This is why I do all the palace stuff right away so I don't have to worry about the deadline. I get it done in like two or three days (depending on if you're forced to go out of the other dimension for some reason). I ALWAYS get it done early cuz I know I'd lose it if I got one of these endings.
These are so brutal, you fail to give sae the phone and akechi shoots you in the head to spend the rest of eternity in the velvet room
I’d love to see a Persona:What If, game where you play as a new trickster (or maybe one of the various other Phantom Thieves) and see a imprisoned man suspected to be Joker in one of the cells.
It's funny how even if akechi died in shidos palace he comes back to deal with you in the bad ending
To me, the creepiest one is still the one with Maruki in P5R
*I did not realize that endings where that burtal damn*
I like how sojiro has a different reaction on the 4th bad ending after hearing you being suspected of being a phantom thief
Being stuck in a timeline forever terrifies me.
However, no matter the ending, it's not always gonna end up going that way.
When it comes to games, players have....well, two things for examples you could compare it to.
Determination. And Killer Queen: Bites The Dust.
Igor: “You failed your rehabilitation, ruin is coming.... wait what’s that???”
Joker: “KILLAR QUEEN, DAISEN NO BOKUDEN, BITE ZA DUSTO!!!”
Igor: “Ah fuck, not another Jojo fa- *[Explodes]*”
Austin Robertson man I’d love to see the Velvet Room explode and then Joker screaming: “YATTAZO! HATSUGEN SHITAZO!”
@@TheBrutalSax this fucking killed md
5:15 the animation is so pathetic compared to the fake ending, it’s funny.
Yeah, just "pew" and ragdolls
can we just appreciate that this guy played over and over to get all those bad scenes and even when through all that for me it was derpressing enough for me to stop playing overall
Goro: A little wisdom from a criminal myself you heroes. If you seek to do justice really tearing corruption up, you do wise not to make reckless novice moves, and force your teammates to shut their mouth out of fear. Here's the Phantom Thieves screw ups. Meeting in a public place, no perfect hideout, leaving behind fingerprints.
Also openly chatting in a public place where ears all around
My dumbass did the 6ix9ine ending on the first run of the game.
When I reached the depths of mementos I recognized the song there, but had no idea at what point I heard it. Played through it again on Royal and didn’t hear Freedom & Security until the depths and kinda got confused... and now I remember this is where I heard it first.
I did the same by accident because I thought Sae would help since it was her sister. Also some jackass told me to trust her way beforehand.
Remember kids Snitches get bad endings
lmao i did the same because i thought that was what the velvet room guys meant when they said to remember your bonds
I trusted her since I was on confidant level 6 with her and I thought she would sneak me out only for Akechi to come in and blow my brains out.
4:21 this reminds of super mario galaxy when you die of your last lives.
I just want to point out that Makoto snitched on you
Yes she was being drugged and tortured, but so was Joker and he stood his ground
(I know Joker knew, in the back of his mind, that they had a plan, but still interesting to think about)
Well, less snitched, more begging for the help of the one competent guy she knew
Since one bad ending in persona 4 I take the time limit more seriously, in P5 I did it well, but for someone I felt curious about bad endings in this game and... uff... It's feels nice to say that I don't see one of those bad endings in my run
1: kamoshida deadline
2: madarame deadline
3: kaneshiro deadline
4: futaba deadline
5: sea deadline
6: shido deadline
7: selling out your friends(after sae palace)- credits run instead of being asked to repeat a week or so.
I wanna see the "holy grail" ending imma play some p5 to find out
“Holy grail”?
@@smartie2261 Yaldaboath
wait what would happen if you get a bad ending on shido’s dungeon after akechi dies
Crap
Exactly
Perhaps it is a foreshadowing of P5R from which we know Akechi is still alive. This, or an overlook
@FuckOuttaHere no he was alive because it was Marukies perfect reality and in there he did not get shot by his shadow self
5:38 Hilariously, this scene still plays even if you already saw Akechi's death
Igor: This is how the Trickster dies? Fallen victim to the deadly sin of Sloth, even my chosen trickster can not escape, mankind’s distortion is truly endless, and ruin… unavoidable. The game is over.
Whats the moral of this video?
When Sojiro offers you coffee, GET THE FUCK OUT AND R U N
What if Akechi dies because you do Shidos palace, but don't retrieve the treasure?
If you still don't know: Akechi momentarily forgets that he's very much dead and appears in the attic to accuse Ren
I never knew what kind of charges Madarame could file against the MC. They barely interacted. All I know is that Ann and Yusuke entered a room he didn't want.
A huge lesson can be learned here, manage your time correctly
Moral of the story: don't be a snitch
With the Futaba one in the Japanese va they basically say she committed suicide and the relative reported the mc for assault
Wait, if Akechi shows up and gets you arrested, does Sae actually offer an opportunity to convince her to do what you want her to?
my five year old brother and I hated Akechi from the start. I KNEW it.
6:40 hey what's that white particle?
Holy shit...the kaneshiro ending is uncharacteristically dark for this game
Maybe I just don’t remember, but what did you do wrong for the Futaba palace part? Coercion and blackmail during that part of the story makes no sense, as the consequence was Medjed destroying the economy. They didn’t even know who you are.
I think that futaba was also threatening to expose them to the police if they didn't change her heart soon enough, so if she did expose them, they'd be arrested for being phantom thief's, since the police don't know about the metaverse they'd just assume they made kamoshida, madarame n kaneshiro confess through blackmail
@@user-bv5kx3jb5n Good points. It still feels a bit wrong that was the consequence though. They hype up a cleansing from Medjed for a whole month, just for it to be irrelevant.
@@Keep701 The Medjed thing was kind of a fakeout, anyway, and an intended one
Akira kurusu isn't that the name Johne typed when he played P5 ?
Yes, it's the name attributed to the protag in the P5 manga
It’s the canon manga name
Holy shit Sae butchering all of their names hurts me
That’s how everyone else pronounces them though-
@@amirgarcia547 Ah, I see. I played the game in Japanese so I didn't know.
Akechi rly thought he would pull a persona 3 with a different person
the true bad ending: having to sit for over 5 minutes in the credits without any illustrations whatsoever
Sadly this is the ending I just got now on my first playthrough of the game where Akechi came and blew my brains there. Not only did I have to get the worst ending of Akechi blowing my brains out while I sat there screaming and complaining to my brother about how Akechi betrayed me but I had to sit through the whole credits scene.
Of all of the bad endings, Kaneshiro disgusted me the most. Even if it was just a police interaction, just hearing what they did to Makoto is unsettling and makes my blood boil
*Hey...CoFfEe GoOd FoR yOu?*
He's taking Sojiro down with him as well, I really like Sojiro but that was hilarous.
Right time I played the game I msde the deal with Yaldaboth cause I thought it was a good deal, only to immediately realize how foolish I was
Yes random guard, this guy that you had clearly searched beforehand somehow had a gun on himself, and he used it to kill himself by shooting his own forehead, with no trace of the gun or powder on his fingers to be found.
The guard was in on it. The Thieves inform Sae of this ahead of time
In fact the game had a whole convoluted explanation for how the corrupt police were able to hide the fact that it clearly was not a suicide, which backfired when they didn't notice that the body never actually made it to the morgue. Sae says that they weren't keeping track of the body/death records/autopsy report
People always made the failed palace endings sound a lot worse than they were. The way these were talked about, I thought it actually showed scenes of the bad consequences of actions happening (e.g. Kamoshida going after Ann, Futaba committing suicide), rather than just having a rather tame police scene where you get arrested. The Makoto one's the only one with adult content in it, and even that's delivered only as a single line. Everything else that people talk about is just people coming up with the implications on their own.
“Coffee good for you?”
-Sojiro Sakura
NO SIR COFFEE IS NOT GOOD
Wait i know you
Wait what you do?
@@Ren-tv6og your that one guy who survived the snap
oh shit that’s why i didn’t see anyone for a while
@@Ren-tv6og yea that was a universal mistake i thought it was your universe
How do you get these endings?
randomguy6679 usually by failing to change a heart by the deadline
The Akechi ending is when you sell out your friends in the interrogation room after sae san's palace. Their also two other bad endings at the end of the game and Okumara's palace.
Acting like a shithead
Missing the Palace Deadlines
The ones where Sojiro offers you coffee are the ones where you miss the deadline and the one where Akechi blows your head off is where you you sell out your accomplices to Sae in the interogattion scene.
Honestly, when the game ends and you get shot and it gets dramatic… that’s scary af..
Damn, the subtitles are giant in this game.
It's funny cuz I read all these comments from start to finish cuz I trying to find that one interesting comment that says what would happen if they didn't change anyone's heart
Why does Akechi give Light Yagami vibe (not to insult Light, he was a badass character.)
I cried
The Shido deadline failure doesn’t make much sense if you already beat Akechi in the Palace
I have a question, so how does madarame know who Joker is if you failed the deadline? Jokers name was never given to madarame so how would he know it and then sue joker?
This comment was a year ago so you've probably got an answer already but like I've seen others say it's probably due to the drugs causing Joker to misremember things
Now if these did actually happen I think because Madarame's connections would allow him to see who is at Shujin and would be able to figure out who you were but that's just my opinion
@@SubconsciousDeviant 1 month but might still be able to answer:
Yusuke probably told madarame who he is, taking that his castle also gets more security after the second argument with yusuke (same happend when kamoshida knew joker and his friends were behind the calling card and went 100%)
@@acegravvy3969 I can see your point but (i think) Yusuke didn't know Ren's name, only Ann's name
But I can definitly see where you're coming from and your theory does make sense
Named my MC Night Yagami, liked to think this existed in the same universe as Light Yagami
Akira Kurusu. That is your name, correct?
No, I’m Ren Amamiya. What kind of stupid-ass name is Akira?