I think the performance was positive. Disappointed with the lack of cutting edge, but the system shows promise and you'd have to think the team can only get better from here.
We played for a result and failed. The system was a basic 4-2-3-1 mid block. Plain bread simple. Nothing similar to things we tried preseason, or even just last game against Inter (with 3-4-3 diamond midfield on ball). Everyone does playing out of back nowadays so it shouldn't even be counted. Positive personally for me is that we should just have been building on such base since preseason day one, with certain players who have played well in it included. Instead of 5d tiki tikka masala football. Perhaps this could be a start. But not holding my breath.
Imagine if you had a player that could just hound the midfield and give opponents no time on the ball and lead the charge as a true blue and captain. Wonder what it would cost us to get someone like that…
@@jameshaddow2107 Wouldn't have struggled more than Enzo did. KDH came on and did nothing. You're telling me Gallagher would've done worse than that? The problem isn't Gallagher, the problem is a manager that is so green he ought to worry the lawn guy doesn't mow him by accident.
Sterling instead of Mudryk is simply because of the huge wages he's on. If Sterling wasn't earning so much they'd keep him as a squad player. But over 300k a week for a non-starter is ridiculous. That's why the club want to move him on. It's that simple.
Fixing the midfield is easy enough. Just stop this inane forward pressure mania. It achieves a few goals across a season but it makes it so easy to find space behind the forward pressure, at which point that entire section of players are completely dropped from existence. Then move the ball forward and there's maybe two midfielders and some defenders, and they'll struggle to do zonal and man marking at the same time, so they'll get pulled out of position often enough. What we should have done is play compact. Do enough high pressure to slow down their progression but mainly get the eff back in a compact defensive shape with minimal space between the lines. Back four holding a line, two 6'es holding the space in front of the line, and the rest falling deep and closing down, crowding and throttling the passing game of the opposition. But we didn't do that and that has nothing to do with personnel. It's purely a tactical choice by Maresca. Edit: And I want to stress, as much as Maresca has shown some willingness to not have a stick up his backside, he still used Nkunku and Palmer in what were clearly not positions that really got them involved in the part of the pitch where they are the most dangerous. Meanwhile he wanted Jackson and Enzo to be the main finishers? I mean, what is that? How much crack must you be on for that to even begin to make sense?
Bit numb to result nowadays (perhaps about to accept the invitation letter into mediocrity). I thought the performance was a mixed bag. Enzo as 10 was poor, never want him there again. Lavia looked promising. Sanchez was Sanchez. And so and so. Personally get a feeling Maresca is currently aiming to strike a correct balance. Result wise the goal difference was no better than when we lost to City in preseason. But we conceded and scored lesser. The system was more basic with lesser fancy ingredients. Is this for long term? We'll have to see. Can't take too much from this game, result or performance wise. Everything up in air still. I also thought the stadium atmosphere reflected that.
Couldn't disagree more. We played a much stronger city team here. They also stopped playing when they went 4-0 up lol. The performance was very good. We created clear cut opportunities, and should have at least one pen.
I can take the loss and appreciate this will take time but the worst possible outcome of Maresca is if he dulls Palmer, who seemed out of sorts! (I do appreciate Palmer never had much of a pre-season, I talking over the longer term)
Palmer was ALWAYS going have his output decreased for the benefit of the overall team. I've been saying it all pre season. Poch's chaos suited palmer perfectly. The opportunities and goals will be spread more evenly around the team, and that's good. We don't want to be relying to heavily on one person.
@@Logicsupersedes Hi Mr Logic, apologies but this is the first time I've encountered you. So wasn't aware of what you have been saying. However, I think you seemed to have misunderstood what I have said, which is not about GA or Output as you have phrased it, but an overall dulling. An example of which, is like Pep has done to Grealish. Most managers find a way to get the most out of their more maverick type players such as Hazard by giving them a little freedom. I have no problem with goals being spread around but just don't want Palmer to be castrated at the same time.
@@Logicsupersedes looks like we are signing Felix too, Maresca has to adapt to these flair type players. He’s in his infancy as a manager, so needs to be able to adjust!
The matchday and twitter negativity is really disappointing. We were nowhere near bad enough to justify the reaction. I thought we were visibly better than early pre season games and that’s encouraging 👍🏻
I don't know. Midfield is still whack out of possession and leaves wide gaps. Where was the promoted high press that Maresca insisted in pre-season? Same problems again that Poch had before Enzo injury. The supposed message from the board that Gallagher, Chalobah or even freaking Sterling don't fit the "high possession system" is mind blowing to me but i guess that's the price to pay to be a fan of a financial institution rather than a normal football club. Unremarkable performance once again but nothing really to worry about, I'm just tired of another team building season of mediocrity to eventually finish mid table.
Started with most basic mid block 4-2-3-1. No inverted tiki tikka masala. Played for a result, didn't get it. While keeping players out that could have done it better.
Actually, although it's sad to say it, your assessment is pretty much spot on! Not really going out on a limb here, but Enzo Maresca, the new ex-Leicester City head coach, is pretty much starting as he means to go on. . . Not winning football matches . . . An anonymous Christopher Nkunku; Enzo Fernandez just doesn't belong in this team, based on 'on-the-park' performances; Romero Lavia not match fit, nor prepared; Pedro Neto flashy, but no real substance etc., etc; Cole Palmer a free role, 'to do the dirty work that Conor Gallagher (now sold to Atletico Madrid) used to do' but obviously without the same relish; and, the assisting, finishing touches that Raheem Sterling is better at doing; as ex- England manager Gareth Southgate found out, to his and the national side's cost. . . England failed to win a Euros Final second time, because their match winner wasn't even selected, who'd scored in the World Cup! Sterling has only been around Chelsea for a couple of years and one of the last survivors of previous Chelsea squads of '5 different head coaches' in that time: 1.Thomas Tuchel, 2.Magic-free Graham Potter, 3.Super Frankie Lampard, 4.Maurizio Pochettino and now 5.Enzo Maresca to stick in his tuppenyworth. Well, let it sink in, that with Sterling not playing yesterday, it is the first time The Blues lost to Manchester City recently; and Sterling not even on the bench and scoring against his old club as usual!! (And, probably because the Americans have destroyed in a couple of years, what it took USD $Multi-Billionaire Roman Abramovich 19 years to chock fill Stamford Bridge home stadium trophy rooms with multitudinous, quality silverware pots; (ie 2xUEFA European Champions League; 5×EPL, 2×Europa League, European Super Cup, FA Cups, World Club Championahip etc., etc.,) but not a single one added by new American owners, Todd Boehly and Behad Eghbali of Clearlake Consortium. . . It's about making money to the Yanks, not winning football matches, and they've ordained it so; in order to get £360k a week, 29 years of age Sterling, off the books; like tub-o-lard Romelu Lukaku, and before 2027. . . grabbing the pure profit from Conor Galkagher, Trevor Chalobah and residue of also ex- Chelsea Academy graduates Billy Gilmour, being sold on by Brighton to 'Antonio Conte's' Napoli, and Dominic Solanke, being sold on by Bournemouth to Tottenham Hotspur!!! or wherever), so you do the numbers . . . I'll be hog-tied and done from the rear, with the rough end of a pineapple, 'cos Chelsea are getting the sh*tty end of the stick here . . . If you'll pardon my mixed metaphors.
@@joshuamontijo4359 I'm no fan of Gallaghers game but at least his energy could cause disruption. Enzo is always the slowest and worst athlete on the pitch. Gallagher is leaving, let's forget about him.
We have certain laid out facts, the team is bloated, which is not the fault of the manager. It’s his job to decide pick out of the vast number of players those he feels will best get him success. Another fact is that certain players will be left out. It’s not something to dwell on much, it’s part of the occupation hazard of the game. We have millions of Chelsea fans who all have an opinion, unfortunately, it’s all down to one man to decide what happens. So Sterling need to chill and consider his options. He was dropped for the England squad and the world didn’t end.
Big mistake making Enzo captain. Now he's undroppable and in fact we are a better team without him and should be using his spot centrally for Nkunku or Palmer
Terrifies me that the cost of Fernandez and his captain/deputy captain armband means we're stuck with him starting every match. Poch only had success when Fernandez was injured. He's simply not good enough in a Chelsea shirt.
Just change his position and he'll be better. Very few complained about him under Potter (who apparently was the worst manager ever), so there's a player there.
@@hnaku8748that’s legitimately only because he was just signed, I was calling him out. We couldn’t win a game with him playing in a team that just won the CL. I have seen “just change his position” he’ll get better” since we spent 100million on him. We’ve tried and tried to fit this guy in and since he’s been here we have been awful. 100 million bro let’s get real, he’s not good, we do not win football matches with him playing it’s simple
I dont see how Enzo + Caicedo + Lavia works. One of the midfield 3 has to essentially be a 10 in possession. Nkunku, KDH, Carns, maybe Palmer, and possibly now Felix. I thought we were fitting players into a system now, not fudging a system to fit players... We have (hopefully) loads of games. 2 out of the 3 on the pitch at a time should be the norm. And maybe it was a specific plan for City.
The money spent on Caicedo and Enzo dictates that they have to play. Enzo is not good enough. There are far better options in an attacking sense (Nkunku, Felix) and just about everyone is better than him in a defensive role.
Enzo isn't a 10. We've tried it before and it fell flat. I'm not really sure where he's supposed to play but we paid a lot of money for him so I guess we have to try to make it work.
I won’t overreact to this loss. I wanna see what Maresca setups to the likes of Brighton. They wanna go forward and won’t really sit back much with us. If the likes of Fernandez and Caicedo can’t give solid performances against the likes of Brighton, Maresca is going to have a honest chat with himself
Was listening to Football T. yesterday and he came up with some very relevant points on his new heat map and XG etc and Chelsea came out with more plus points than City.
You cannot play Enzo, Caicedo and Lavia together. It won't work. Play two of them and shift Nkunku behind Jackson. Palmer on the right and Neto on the left.
Easy to do. You drop Enzo. The likes of Nkunku and Felix will be far better in the 10 role and Enzo is as useful as wet paper bag in a defensive role. Play Caicedo and Lavia behind Nkunku or Felix.
Just throwing money at things and hoping it will work with very little understanding is a recipe for disaster. The owners and SD’s are going nowhere so let’s hope they start to understand what they are doing sooner rather than later. I won’t hold my breath on that one. Who’s picking the team? I walked away glad we didn’t lose 6-0. It’s not good. Also it’s embarrassing when the coach says we have 30 players and the club says we have 42 somebody can’t count.
It’s very simple. The team is in flux. New manager new system and new players. City has been playing the same system for years and they are just a better side.
It's still bizarre to me that we still haven't replaced Matic. Between Caicedo, Enzo and Lavia, we still don't have a true #6, destroyer type that can protect the back line.
There is no agenda. We've seen where Nkunku shines and its not out wide. We've seen Caicedo start to shine the second half of last season. But Enzo hasn't even come close to his performances under Potter (let alone improving). Enzo is stuck in no-man's land - he's not truly a #10 and his best work is playing passes from deep. But he lacks the dynamic athleticism to be a #8 and is definitely not a #6.
@@J.D.416 I’m a fan of all of these players because they play for us to to say nkunku has shined for us is a lie he has barely played at all and fans have been calling for him to play LW all preseason. Caicedo was just as inconsistent as Enzo was all last season but he ended the season well so you’re giving him the pass? And to say Enzo doesn’t have a position is silly since he can play multiple positions. To say he’s definitely not a 6 is laughable when he played his best football for us under potter and with Benfica and Argentina. The point is all three of these players had poor games but the agenda is to attack Enzo as if it was only him that performed poorly.
@Lvd12393 you've misunderstood what I wrote. I said we do know where Nkunku shines (his time in Germany, preseason last year and this year). The pass for Caicedo is earned. Did you not see how good he was for the second half of last season, when coincidentally Poch didn't need to jam three midfielders in with Enzo's injury. I should clarify. I don't think Enzo is a 6 for us. We need someone to shield the back line, make interceptions and tackles. I don't see him as dynamic enough for that role in the PL. Especially, if we're playing on the front foot with a high press and are suspectible to counter attacks. One of the big money midfielders (Enzo or Caicedo) needs to be on the bench or be sold because they don't work together. We have the entire first half of last season and yesterday's match as proof. By the way, I'm also a fan of the club first and would love nothing more for Enzo to return to his form under Potter and prove that last season was a fluke due to injuries.
@@J.D.416 I didn’t misunderstand, you just didn’t say that the first time haha. Thank you for being more clear. I do still disagree with you tho I think Enzo’s position in this team is as the deep lying playmaker where he’ll get the most touches and be able to use his dynamic passing range. With his lack of athleticism you’d want him to have to move less up and down the field. I don’t think he should be playing every game tho. I don’t see a need for all three to start either. My original point was to combat this weird agenda fans are creating the ‘we are much better without Enzo’ agenda. The agenda starts with highlighting him as the reason we lost when there were multiple players who cost a lot of money as well also didn’t perform and performed worse in my eyes. It’s the first game of the season and I have a lot of hope for all of these players. We should be backing them
Based on our performance yesterday, I think we would have Won against most EPL opponents.
The progress is real.
We’ll be alright.
I mean top 4 is expected. So yeah we should be better than 16 at least.
Bull shit
Can Chelsea now win even against any mid table team 😮👎🏾🙄
I think the performance was positive. Disappointed with the lack of cutting edge, but the system shows promise and you'd have to think the team can only get better from here.
We played for a result and failed. The system was a basic 4-2-3-1 mid block. Plain bread simple. Nothing similar to things we tried preseason, or even just last game against Inter (with 3-4-3 diamond midfield on ball).
Everyone does playing out of back nowadays so it shouldn't even be counted.
Positive personally for me is that we should just have been building on such base since preseason day one, with certain players who have played well in it included. Instead of 5d tiki tikka masala football. Perhaps this could be a start. But not holding my breath.
Imagine if you had a player that could just hound the midfield and give opponents no time on the ball and lead the charge as a true blue and captain. Wonder what it would cost us to get someone like that…
We don't need Gallagher bro. Just keep Enzo off the pitch.
Gallagher would have struggled this game I believe especially when we had the ball
@@jameshaddow2107 He didnt struggle last year against them - or in most of our games.
@@jameshaddow2107 Wouldn't have struggled more than Enzo did. KDH came on and did nothing. You're telling me Gallagher would've done worse than that? The problem isn't Gallagher, the problem is a manager that is so green he ought to worry the lawn guy doesn't mow him by accident.
Luka mudryk 🙄 and he is retired 😢
Sterling instead of Mudryk is simply because of the huge wages he's on. If Sterling wasn't earning so much they'd keep him as a squad player. But over 300k a week for a non-starter is ridiculous. That's why the club want to move him on. It's that simple.
He’s also very inconsistent. If we have any chance signing Osimhen by moving Sterling on I think it’s a no brainer.
What so ever
Chelsea will have to pay him, like Anthony Conte, that's business and contract
Fixing the midfield is easy enough. Just stop this inane forward pressure mania. It achieves a few goals across a season but it makes it so easy to find space behind the forward pressure, at which point that entire section of players are completely dropped from existence. Then move the ball forward and there's maybe two midfielders and some defenders, and they'll struggle to do zonal and man marking at the same time, so they'll get pulled out of position often enough.
What we should have done is play compact. Do enough high pressure to slow down their progression but mainly get the eff back in a compact defensive shape with minimal space between the lines. Back four holding a line, two 6'es holding the space in front of the line, and the rest falling deep and closing down, crowding and throttling the passing game of the opposition. But we didn't do that and that has nothing to do with personnel. It's purely a tactical choice by Maresca.
Edit: And I want to stress, as much as Maresca has shown some willingness to not have a stick up his backside, he still used Nkunku and Palmer in what were clearly not positions that really got them involved in the part of the pitch where they are the most dangerous. Meanwhile he wanted Jackson and Enzo to be the main finishers? I mean, what is that? How much crack must you be on for that to even begin to make sense?
Bit numb to result nowadays (perhaps about to accept the invitation letter into mediocrity).
I thought the performance was a mixed bag. Enzo as 10 was poor, never want him there again. Lavia looked promising. Sanchez was Sanchez. And so and so.
Personally get a feeling Maresca is currently aiming to strike a correct balance. Result wise the goal difference was no better than when we lost to City in preseason. But we conceded and scored lesser. The system was more basic with lesser fancy ingredients. Is this for long term? We'll have to see.
Can't take too much from this game, result or performance wise. Everything up in air still. I also thought the stadium atmosphere reflected that.
Couldn't disagree more. We played a much stronger city team here. They also stopped playing when they went 4-0 up lol. The performance was very good. We created clear cut opportunities, and should have at least one pen.
I can take the loss and appreciate this will take time but the worst possible outcome of Maresca is if he dulls Palmer, who seemed out of sorts! (I do appreciate Palmer never had much of a pre-season, I talking over the longer term)
Palmer was ALWAYS going have his output decreased for the benefit of the overall team. I've been saying it all pre season. Poch's chaos suited palmer perfectly. The opportunities and goals will be spread more evenly around the team, and that's good. We don't want to be relying to heavily on one person.
@@Logicsupersedes Hi Mr Logic, apologies but this is the first time I've encountered you. So wasn't aware of what you have been saying. However, I think you seemed to have misunderstood what I have said, which is not about GA or Output as you have phrased it, but an overall dulling. An example of which, is like Pep has done to Grealish. Most managers find a way to get the most out of their more maverick type players such as Hazard by giving them a little freedom. I have no problem with goals being spread around but just don't want Palmer to be castrated at the same time.
@@Logicsupersedes looks like we are signing Felix too, Maresca has to adapt to these flair type players. He’s in his infancy as a manager, so needs to be able to adjust!
@@LDN_BOX I agree, he needs time. Thr players are there for the system. I saw many positives yesterday.
The matchday and twitter negativity is really disappointing. We were nowhere near bad enough to justify the reaction. I thought we were visibly better than early pre season games and that’s encouraging 👍🏻
I don't know. Midfield is still whack out of possession and leaves wide gaps. Where was the promoted high press that Maresca insisted in pre-season? Same problems again that Poch had before Enzo injury. The supposed message from the board that Gallagher, Chalobah or even freaking Sterling don't fit the "high possession system" is mind blowing to me but i guess that's the price to pay to be a fan of a financial institution rather than a normal football club. Unremarkable performance once again but nothing really to worry about, I'm just tired of another team building season of mediocrity to eventually finish mid table.
Started with most basic mid block 4-2-3-1. No inverted tiki tikka masala. Played for a result, didn't get it. While keeping players out that could have done it better.
Actually, although it's sad to say it, your assessment is pretty much spot on!
Not really going out on a limb here, but Enzo Maresca, the new ex-Leicester City head coach, is pretty much starting as he means to go on. . .
Not winning football matches . . .
An anonymous Christopher Nkunku; Enzo Fernandez just doesn't belong in this team, based on 'on-the-park' performances; Romero Lavia not match fit, nor prepared; Pedro Neto flashy, but no real substance etc., etc; Cole Palmer a free role, 'to do the dirty work that Conor Gallagher (now sold to Atletico Madrid) used to do' but obviously without the same relish; and, the assisting, finishing touches that Raheem Sterling is better at doing; as ex- England manager Gareth Southgate found out, to his and the national side's cost. . .
England failed to win a Euros Final second time, because their match winner wasn't even selected, who'd scored in the World Cup!
Sterling has only been around Chelsea for a couple of years and one of the last survivors of previous Chelsea squads of '5 different head coaches' in that time:
1.Thomas Tuchel, 2.Magic-free Graham Potter, 3.Super Frankie Lampard, 4.Maurizio Pochettino and now
5.Enzo Maresca to stick in his tuppenyworth.
Well, let it sink in, that with Sterling not playing yesterday, it is the first time The Blues lost to Manchester City recently; and Sterling not even on the bench and scoring against his old club as usual!!
(And, probably because the Americans have destroyed in a couple of years, what it took USD $Multi-Billionaire Roman Abramovich 19 years to chock fill Stamford Bridge home stadium trophy rooms with multitudinous, quality silverware pots; (ie 2xUEFA European Champions League; 5×EPL, 2×Europa League, European Super Cup, FA Cups, World Club Championahip etc., etc.,) but not a single one added by new American owners, Todd Boehly and Behad Eghbali of Clearlake Consortium. . .
It's about making money to the Yanks, not winning football matches, and they've ordained it so; in order to get £360k a week, 29 years of age Sterling, off the books; like tub-o-lard Romelu Lukaku, and before 2027. . . grabbing the pure profit from Conor Galkagher, Trevor Chalobah and residue of also ex- Chelsea Academy graduates Billy Gilmour, being sold on by Brighton to 'Antonio Conte's' Napoli, and Dominic Solanke, being sold on by Bournemouth to Tottenham Hotspur!!! or wherever), so you do the numbers . . .
I'll be hog-tied and done from the rear, with the rough end of a pineapple, 'cos Chelsea are getting the sh*tty end of the stick here . . . If you'll pardon my mixed metaphors.
How did Enzo get the captain's arm band???!
It doesn't make any sense. He's not good enough to start.
He’s our best passer of the ball
If it was Gallagher winning fouls, pressing CBs & playing long passes ppl would be loving his performance
@@paolo1chop even if that is the case, he sucks at everything else. That fact negates his so called best passer status.
@@joshuamontijo4359 I'm no fan of Gallaghers game but at least his energy could cause disruption. Enzo is always the slowest and worst athlete on the pitch. Gallagher is leaving, let's forget about him.
We have certain laid out facts, the team is bloated, which is not the fault of the manager. It’s his job to decide pick out of the vast number of players those he feels will best get him success. Another fact is that certain players will be left out. It’s not something to dwell on much, it’s part of the occupation hazard of the game. We have millions of Chelsea fans who all have an opinion, unfortunately, it’s all down to one man to decide what happens. So Sterling need to chill and consider his options. He was dropped for the England squad and the world didn’t end.
Big mistake making Enzo captain. Now he's undroppable and in fact we are a better team without him and should be using his spot centrally for Nkunku or Palmer
Terrifies me that the cost of Fernandez and his captain/deputy captain armband means we're stuck with him starting every match. Poch only had success when Fernandez was injured. He's simply not good enough in a Chelsea shirt.
Just change his position and he'll be better. Very few complained about him under Potter (who apparently was the worst manager ever), so there's a player there.
@@hnaku8748that’s legitimately only because he was just signed, I was calling him out. We couldn’t win a game with him playing in a team that just won the CL. I have seen “just change his position” he’ll get better” since we spent 100million on him. We’ve tried and tried to fit this guy in and since he’s been here we have been awful. 100 million bro let’s get real, he’s not good, we do not win football matches with him playing it’s simple
Comment deleted that’s hilarious enzo sexuals
What terrifies me is that one game can make people react this way
@Logicsupersedes not really one game though. Fernandez has been poor since we signed him. Certainly doesn't deserve to be captain..
I dont see how Enzo + Caicedo + Lavia works. One of the midfield 3 has to essentially be a 10 in possession. Nkunku, KDH, Carns, maybe Palmer, and possibly now Felix. I thought we were fitting players into a system now, not fudging a system to fit players... We have (hopefully) loads of games. 2 out of the 3 on the pitch at a time should be the norm. And maybe it was a specific plan for City.
The money spent on Caicedo and Enzo dictates that they have to play. Enzo is not good enough. There are far better options in an attacking sense (Nkunku, Felix) and just about everyone is better than him in a defensive role.
Enzo isn't a 10. We've tried it before and it fell flat. I'm not really sure where he's supposed to play but we paid a lot of money for him so I guess we have to try to make it work.
I won’t overreact to this loss. I wanna see what Maresca setups to the likes of Brighton. They wanna go forward and won’t really sit back much with us. If the likes of Fernandez and Caicedo can’t give solid performances against the likes of Brighton, Maresca is going to have a honest chat with himself
Was listening to Football T. yesterday and he came up with some very relevant points on his new heat map and XG etc and Chelsea came out with more plus points than City.
You cannot play Enzo, Caicedo and Lavia together. It won't work. Play two of them and shift Nkunku behind Jackson. Palmer on the right and Neto on the left.
Easy to do. You drop Enzo. The likes of Nkunku and Felix will be far better in the 10 role and Enzo is as useful as wet paper bag in a defensive role. Play Caicedo and Lavia behind Nkunku or Felix.
Badeshile could do with at least one more season with thiago Silva unfortunately he's going to have to learn the hard way.
This is a weird view !! You guys should be talking to each other and us in the video, so facing each other wouldn’t be more natural!!
Just throwing money at things and hoping it will work with very little understanding is a recipe for disaster. The owners and SD’s are going nowhere so let’s hope they start to understand what they are doing sooner rather than later. I won’t hold my breath on that one. Who’s picking the team? I walked away glad we didn’t lose 6-0. It’s not good. Also it’s embarrassing when the coach says we have 30 players and the club says we have 42 somebody can’t count.
It’s very simple. The team is in flux. New manager new system and new players. City has been playing the same system for years and they are just a better side.
F the city
Chelsea lost because man City is better team 😢
Chelsea now on crisis and nobody or nothing will get it back 😢in my opinion 🙂
Fernandez wrong position. Sanchez absolute rubbish. KDH out of his depth. Euro qualifier fail to qualify??
It's still bizarre to me that we still haven't replaced Matic. Between Caicedo, Enzo and Lavia, we still don't have a true #6, destroyer type that can protect the back line.
I think Caicedo is a destroyer as you said. Though, the elective is not to replace cover but to create a great 6 for the modern game..
Don't forget servette on Thursday, that could've played into his team selection if we lose to them then the fans will go nuts.
Sanchez and Enzo should probably be dropped for next game to try other things
All the Enzo hate these days without a mention of how bad caicedo and nkunku were too. Smells like an agenda🤔
There is no agenda. We've seen where Nkunku shines and its not out wide. We've seen Caicedo start to shine the second half of last season. But Enzo hasn't even come close to his performances under Potter (let alone improving). Enzo is stuck in no-man's land - he's not truly a #10 and his best work is playing passes from deep. But he lacks the dynamic athleticism to be a #8 and is definitely not a #6.
@@J.D.416 I’m a fan of all of these players because they play for us to to say nkunku has shined for us is a lie he has barely played at all and fans have been calling for him to play LW all preseason. Caicedo was just as inconsistent as Enzo was all last season but he ended the season well so you’re giving him the pass? And to say Enzo doesn’t have a position is silly since he can play multiple positions. To say he’s definitely not a 6 is laughable when he played his best football for us under potter and with Benfica and Argentina. The point is all three of these players had poor games but the agenda is to attack Enzo as if it was only him that performed poorly.
@Lvd12393 you've misunderstood what I wrote. I said we do know where Nkunku shines (his time in Germany, preseason last year and this year). The pass for Caicedo is earned. Did you not see how good he was for the second half of last season, when coincidentally Poch didn't need to jam three midfielders in with Enzo's injury. I should clarify. I don't think Enzo is a 6 for us. We need someone to shield the back line, make interceptions and tackles. I don't see him as dynamic enough for that role in the PL. Especially, if we're playing on the front foot with a high press and are suspectible to counter attacks. One of the big money midfielders (Enzo or Caicedo) needs to be on the bench or be sold because they don't work together. We have the entire first half of last season and yesterday's match as proof. By the way, I'm also a fan of the club first and would love nothing more for Enzo to return to his form under Potter and prove that last season was a fluke due to injuries.
@@J.D.416 I didn’t misunderstand, you just didn’t say that the first time haha. Thank you for being more clear. I do still disagree with you tho I think Enzo’s position in this team is as the deep lying playmaker where he’ll get the most touches and be able to use his dynamic passing range. With his lack of athleticism you’d want him to have to move less up and down the field. I don’t think he should be playing every game tho. I don’t see a need for all three to start either.
My original point was to combat this weird agenda fans are creating the ‘we are much better without Enzo’ agenda. The agenda starts with highlighting him as the reason we lost when there were multiple players who cost a lot of money as well also didn’t perform and performed worse in my eyes. It’s the first game of the season and I have a lot of hope for all of these players. We should be backing them