UFC 5 Free Fight: Royce Gracie vs Ken Shamrock 2 (1995)

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  • UFC 5: Return of the Beast introduced a Superfight by setting up a rematch between Ken Shamrock and Royce Gracie after their historic meeting at UFC 1 in 1993.
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  • @timg2655
    @timg2655 Před 4 lety +23159

    The most impressive thing about this fight is how the commentators keep finding something to say.

    • @BarisYener
      @BarisYener Před 4 lety +224

      HAHAHAHHAHA

    • @EmperorsNewWardrobe
      @EmperorsNewWardrobe Před 4 lety +91

      Tim L, hahaha great point

    • @megaseis7849
      @megaseis7849 Před 4 lety +163

      It was most discerning of the commentator to point out the subtlety of the sleeve grasp.

    • @mrpeabodythethird
      @mrpeabodythethird Před 4 lety +113

      You should get the trophie for that comment.

    • @logansneed2882
      @logansneed2882 Před 4 lety +26

      I thought it was just what you said, a fight im not mad about it, watched it from start to finish, good Fathers day watch

  • @bredenis5
    @bredenis5 Před 3 lety +2272

    The biggest injury here was my right thumb from double tapping the screen to fast forward this shit.

  • @user-NFL
    @user-NFL Před 11 měsíci +504

    People don’t realize how good Shamrock was in this fight, jujitsu wasn’t prime in the US yet so for him to go 35 minutes with Gracie without getting submitted is incredible

    • @tomnoyb3286
      @tomnoyb3286 Před 6 měsíci +23

      TOTALLY disagree - there was PLENTY that he could have done but he didn't do ANYTHING!!

    • @devriestown
      @devriestown Před 6 měsíci +12

      He didn't do JACK

    • @shizmoo5536
      @shizmoo5536 Před 6 měsíci +18

      not impressive at all. shamrock was 20 pounds heavier

    • @sfb1170
      @sfb1170 Před 5 měsíci

      @@DWVigilanteexplain. Gis we’re allowed in ufc then

    • @stillgotyourmom
      @stillgotyourmom Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@tomnoyb3286Gracies arent effective

  • @asmrweathermusicadfree8910
    @asmrweathermusicadfree8910 Před 2 měsíci +92

    The longest most aggressive hugging in UFC history!

  • @garyleavens885
    @garyleavens885 Před 2 lety +2352

    The best thing about this fight is that you can fast forward through it.

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 Před 2 lety +100

      And you won’t miss a fucking thang!

    • @kanewebley3156
      @kanewebley3156 Před 2 lety +18

      @@zacharyradford5552 one punch that looks like the winning blow....and draw 🤣 the UFC? Ok

    • @omicrondelta249
      @omicrondelta249 Před 2 lety +3

      nah, rewind to Severn vs Taktarov from prior. One of the bloodiest one sided fights ive ever seen.

    • @tstoj2334
      @tstoj2334 Před rokem +5

      hahaha worst wrestling

    • @collincornish1492
      @collincornish1492 Před rokem +8

      Shamrock lands a solid punch! And then he decided to go back into the full guard....

  • @DJLeroy3
    @DJLeroy3 Před 2 lety +1306

    I fast forwarded 20 minutes and they were still in the same position...

  • @MitchellBourisk
    @MitchellBourisk Před 7 měsíci +36

    I see why they have judges and 5 minute rounds lmao

  • @Jd110486
    @Jd110486 Před 10 měsíci +28

    35:10
    Shamrock’s corner: “Ken what are you doing??!!” 😂😂💀💀💀

  • @user-uv4gj6fh9t
    @user-uv4gj6fh9t Před 4 lety +789

    When an immovable object meets an immovable object

  • @MansterBear
    @MansterBear Před 2 lety +894

    25 lbs difference, bare knuckles, headbutts, full gi, WWF type opening, Ron Jeremy as the ring announcer... man these were wild days.

  • @filipemedeirosdantaspaiva1454
    @filipemedeirosdantaspaiva1454 Před 8 měsíci +61

    I just love how They immediatly hug after The fight is over.

  • @user-ws9om3lf6b
    @user-ws9om3lf6b Před měsícem +8

    I clicked to see a fight and found myself watching two men in the missionary position for nearly an hour

  • @marc-etiennemercier6584
    @marc-etiennemercier6584 Před 3 lety +759

    Shamrock looks like that 1st level boss in a 90s street fight cartoon game.

    • @bussyhaver
      @bussyhaver Před 3 lety +16

      Most of those Nintendo characters were based on him, they had a tv show and video game with him as the hero too

    • @DeepPocketsEnt
      @DeepPocketsEnt Před 2 lety +9

      Lmao, holy shit he does!! Like somebody out of Double Dragon or Final Fight LMAO!!!

    • @samasoni8810
      @samasoni8810 Před 2 lety

      @@DeepPocketsEnt yessss lmao

    • @mangoshake9435
      @mangoshake9435 Před 2 lety

      @@DeepPocketsEnt read my mind. Double Dragon!!

    • @outdoorloser4340
      @outdoorloser4340 Před 2 lety

      RIP Billy Conforto

  • @joshuaperez1531
    @joshuaperez1531 Před 4 lety +3414

    Im watching this for free and i still want to get my money back

  • @ReNeDesCartes782
    @ReNeDesCartes782 Před 4 měsíci +21

    Such a thrilling fight, i was literally on the edge of shutting CZcams off for the day.

    • @7scrib
      @7scrib Před 2 měsíci +3

      Casual viewers usually say something like this. It's okay your brain is too small to understand the high level of athleticism and skill required here.

    • @ReNeDesCartes782
      @ReNeDesCartes782 Před 2 měsíci

      @@7scrib high level of athleticism 🤣😂
      Wake up braindead, it's not 1980s anymore.

  • @MrVikking74
    @MrVikking74 Před 8 měsíci +22

    Ken learned a lot from the first fight ..by being humble he was able to learn and nullify gracie

  • @lemmetellusum4884
    @lemmetellusum4884 Před 4 lety +1706

    That was the longest hug in history of hugging

  • @filosofodosgames8550
    @filosofodosgames8550 Před 4 lety +589

    I legitimately had more fun reading the comments than watching the fight.

    • @koothrapauleekoopaul2606
      @koothrapauleekoopaul2606 Před 4 lety +1

      here is another one the hugging contest was all about a boxer's punch to the face without a glove, imagine what would happen if a real boxer like Pacqiuao or Tyson has a piece of your cute face, the hugging contest is over in a second.

    • @divifilivs7656
      @divifilivs7656 Před 4 lety +3

      KOOTHRAPAULEE KOOPAUL No it’s not, mike Tyson or pacshit don’t know how to fight, they can box, but not fight. Get your head out of your arse.

    • @mastodonrock96
      @mastodonrock96 Před 4 lety +7

      @Immanuel Figueroa isn't that what everyone on this website does?

    • @aleksisuhonen5433
      @aleksisuhonen5433 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mastodonrock96 Fuck no! There are a lot of fucking stupid people in this comment section.

    • @inspiredbynature5044
      @inspiredbynature5044 Před 3 lety

      XD

  • @doggedoge7255
    @doggedoge7255 Před měsícem +6

    The most watched fight in the UFC due to falling asleep and watching again

  • @EMGge
    @EMGge Před 8 měsíci +5

    You think Ken would have won if Gracie didn't hold onto his Gi sleeve the entire match?

    • @pvshka
      @pvshka Před měsícem

      Absolutely.

  • @Aquateenmitch
    @Aquateenmitch Před 4 lety +1658

    Guinness World Record: Longest passionate, nonsexual embrace in an octagonal arena.

    • @dimitris7368
      @dimitris7368 Před 4 lety +39

      Now I understand why jiu jitsu is called bj(j)...

    • @McMxxCiV
      @McMxxCiV Před 3 lety +39

      What do you mean nonsexual?

    • @dx5242
      @dx5242 Před 3 lety +1

      tey were both fully torque'd

    • @markstephens9993
      @markstephens9993 Před 3 lety +1

      For the longest such dance, see Shamrock / Severn II!

    • @EspenX
      @EspenX Před 3 lety +13

      I love this fight! This is when people thought no rules fighting would be a complete blood fest and fists flying. But it turned out Brazilian jiu jitsu was so superior it would cancel out every other martial art. So many of the UFC rules today is to cancel out the superiority of the Gracie family technique so there are more knockouts. Even today so many world champions come from the wrestling world, they have to hold them back so the audience get their fist fights. If they didn't, graplers would rule most of the weight classes. Just as Connor about the one man who took his belt and he still does not want to try to win it back :)

  • @shoryukenpower
    @shoryukenpower Před 4 lety +820

    I laughed so hard when they started the 'overtime' and the crowd got all hyped thinking they were gonna see some action.. then literally 6 seconds later they were right back in a ball on the ground again lol

    • @Eagles2020
      @Eagles2020 Před 4 lety +4

      Bob Brock can you literally shut the fuck up

    • @HenryKeepsItReal
      @HenryKeepsItReal Před 4 lety +27

      Thats early ufc for ya

    • @amalapurana3090
      @amalapurana3090 Před 2 lety +8

      I know so anti climatic

    • @derikclose1421
      @derikclose1421 Před rokem +55

      Thats because the Gracies ran the show and made the rules. this fight shoulda been stood up so many times. and the 1 time it was Shhamrock rocked him. after the gracie family made up the ring side rule of OT. thinking it would benefit Royce. Luckily big John was smart enough to stand it up. which im sure the Gracies hated. the fact there was a time limit and no judges is ridiculous. Shamrock won the fight. Gracies are frauds. just like they told Shamrock in the 1st fight he couldn't wear his boots because the were weapons. yet Gracie and his Gi he uses to choke ppl is ok. Thank God Matt Hughes put Gracie in his place.

    • @couldyou4745
      @couldyou4745 Před rokem +14

      @@derikclose1421 lol youre coping hard. I bet you cried yourself to sleep over this.

  • @AC-jh3pn
    @AC-jh3pn Před 9 měsíci +27

    I like to come back to see how far this sport has evolved. It’s crazy that these two were top of the chain at the time. neither could get much done other than that one punch ken landed .

    • @MartinWasTaken
      @MartinWasTaken Před měsícem +2

      Imagine you put 2 of them in a ring with prime Jon Jones, he would massacre them.

  • @ALtheelectrician
    @ALtheelectrician Před 7 měsíci +4

    The art of combat sports has evolved so much. If this fight happened today, they would have been stood up after the first 3 minutes of the fight, Gracie without the gi wouldn't be able to hold on nearly as long as he did and this fight probably never even happens because Gracie is fighting above his weight class in this fight.

  • @Forenzikproductions
    @Forenzikproductions Před 3 lety +2602

    Damn UFC used to allow headbutts and would let you grapple for 30 minutes at a time, insane. Khabib would be having a ball just non stop mauling people.

    • @huraira448
      @huraira448 Před 3 lety +203

      dude he'd go 60-0 if it was like that, would love to see it

    • @francoischarbonneau9447
      @francoischarbonneau9447 Před 3 lety +97

      Some of the earliest UFC like 1-5 were some of the goriest fights you'd ever see. Saw this one guy get punched repeatedly in the nuts! Head butts, not sure if they allowed kicking while the guy was down, but whatever, crazy shit.

    • @devilbuster20xx37
      @devilbuster20xx37 Před 3 lety +22

      @@francoischarbonneau9447 That's why it is called Vale-tudo

    • @jonscot1202
      @jonscot1202 Před 3 lety +40

      Khabib hasn’t been challenged at all....

    • @leoengbino7691
      @leoengbino7691 Před 3 lety +1

      @@huraira448 !

  • @buttmonkey4743
    @buttmonkey4743 Před 3 lety +358

    0:45 "He has had some sex, success here in the UFC." - 1995 UFC Commentator

  • @snooscer
    @snooscer Před 9 měsíci +3

    24:20 “COME ON KEN! GET YOUR FUCKIN ASS IN GEAR!” i’m fuckin ded dood 😂💀

    • @area.man.
      @area.man. Před 5 dny

      Thank you for not fast forwarding 30 minutes ahead so you could capture the highlight of the fight for us

  • @RickyFebri-ch9ec
    @RickyFebri-ch9ec Před 7 měsíci +1

    no glove, allowing headbutt, allowing hitting back head/back body. it was so damn wild back there.

  • @adrianlouw2499
    @adrianlouw2499 Před 2 lety +2078

    An absolute master class in the art of missionary position...

  • @JPelus
    @JPelus Před 4 lety +322

    The boos started because they paid to see a fight, the boos continued because they got bored, the boos stopped because even booing got old.

  • @theguild42
    @theguild42 Před 11 měsíci +3

    RESPECT for both fights! Great RESPECT!

  • @chemicle
    @chemicle Před 7 měsíci +1

    I remember this fight when it happened, the people were so pissed.

  • @skedtm
    @skedtm Před 3 lety +817

    After hugging each other for 30 minutes they hug each other after. What great friends

  • @breakerytb3094
    @breakerytb3094 Před 3 lety +426

    Me : skip 1 minute, 5 minutes, 10 minute... 🙄 Always the same position

    • @johnkiss8804
      @johnkiss8804 Před 3 lety +5

      @breaker / yrb true true, just like the 1st 4 championships it's tailored to Gracie. Imagine the fight broke up in 5 5 minute rounds... Ken would lullibye his azz in the 1st 2 minutes. It'd be like paying $50 to watch Tyson KO that dude in 23 seconds. Remember that fight?

    • @isaacent
      @isaacent Před 3 lety +3

      If you had pay to see the fight will loose money

    • @0xigix0
      @0xigix0 Před 3 lety +1

      Same :D

    • @rohezie8194
      @rohezie8194 Před 3 lety +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 the same.

    • @mirza5324
      @mirza5324 Před 3 lety +1

      Same..skip skip
      Same hahaha

  • @ryanjansen8785
    @ryanjansen8785 Před 8 měsíci

    ken's power this time around was an impressive transition for this bout. royce may've gotten a little careless once they were stood up as it at least originally looked like he was gonna make more of being on his feet the second time around anyways.

  • @CertifiedHuSTLer
    @CertifiedHuSTLer Před 7 měsíci +1

    Loveeeee old school combat sports!

  • @Continus
    @Continus Před 3 lety +902

    The real legends are the commentators, I would have ran out of things to say the first 2 minutes.

    • @mdh6977
      @mdh6977 Před 3 lety +10

      True heroes

    • @BB-mv9wl
      @BB-mv9wl Před 3 lety +3

      🤣🤣

    • @syntax_error6882
      @syntax_error6882 Před 3 lety +1

      not the same area, you were probably never born in this time i guess ? ..if ufc had keep the same rule the dominant sport in mma not be the same
      its a business not a sport

    • @patrixmatrix7163
      @patrixmatrix7163 Před 3 lety

      😂😂👍

    • @saintchuck3132
      @saintchuck3132 Před 3 lety +1

      They were terrible....they said ken was in mount. Among many errors...terrible announcing....u called them legends...omg ur way off

  • @SeanLovesRosie0206
    @SeanLovesRosie0206 Před 3 lety +2310

    5 more minutes of “grappling” and Gracie would’ve ended up pregnant

    • @Adz1o
      @Adz1o Před 3 lety +12

      TWERKSUMN 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @assacastes1011
      @assacastes1011 Před 3 lety +9

      @@Adz1o 😂 good one

    • @User-54631
      @User-54631 Před 3 lety +23

      🤣 best comment ever

    • @Sam-ow3zo
      @Sam-ow3zo Před 3 lety +9

      let's see you hop in there

    • @nikbavaria1573
      @nikbavaria1573 Před 3 lety +5

      😅👌😂😂😂

  • @blipblop92
    @blipblop92 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Demeian Maia: your fight is too boring!
    Royce Gracie: hold my beer

  • @dombaker1924
    @dombaker1924 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Fair play to Gracie. Shamrock 25lbs heavier and juiced to the gills yet couldn't really do much in Gracies guard

  • @michellegault4122
    @michellegault4122 Před 2 lety +747

    Imagine if final fights of every martial arts film looked like this one.

    • @warriorof1298
      @warriorof1298 Před 2 lety +34

      It would be the entire film… lol

    • @anthonylimitless5178
      @anthonylimitless5178 Před 2 lety +1

      Epic Lol’z

    • @michaeldevall8497
      @michaeldevall8497 Před 2 lety +11

      Let’s be honest 1 dimensional fighters can only fight one way so this shit happened a lot more in the early times. Boring as hell you don’t learn from this shit. You get worst.

    • @jaychild78
      @jaychild78 Před 2 lety

      😂😂😂

    • @EvilVulthoom
      @EvilVulthoom Před 2 lety +3

      lol. Standard action scenes from now. Grappling ground

  • @spiritchild9101
    @spiritchild9101 Před 3 lety +568

    This fight is why we have the stand up rule.

    • @Jo-id9zm
      @Jo-id9zm Před 3 lety +34

      Precisely, and thank fuck we do!

    • @agenecrobiosis
      @agenecrobiosis Před 3 lety +10

      True but the gi also makes it way easier to hold people down in your guard.

    • @rackinfrackinvarmint
      @rackinfrackinvarmint Před 3 lety +9

      And rounds, and judges

    • @conorwellman8592
      @conorwellman8592 Před 3 lety +7

      and time limits and rounds and judges

    • @grandwonder5858
      @grandwonder5858 Před 3 lety +14

      Two grown-ass men hugging each other on the ground for 30+ minutes! If someone didn't know better they might think Shamrock is raping Gracie on the ground! The most boring fight I've ever seen! If I can call it a fight!

  • @davesdoorsandhomeimproveme5012

    It’s all changed now loved how the sport has evolved

  • @tophernolastname2378
    @tophernolastname2378 Před 4 lety +881

    A lot of people may not understand why this fight was such a big deal.
    It's not just the names, the "#1 vs. #2 title-fight" marketing, or the cool gi and wrestling spandex/shoes.
    Royce was considered the best submission grappler in the world at the time, nobody could out grapple him. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu stood out as a monolith no style could beat.
    Average fan pre-fight: "Shamrock can't beat Royce on the ground. The second he goes into Royce's guard it's over."
    Same fan watching fight: "HOLY SHIT, Ken's surviving Royce's guard! Royce can't do anything! This is so surreal!"
    Ken wasn't able to win the fight, but he basically gave the entire world the blueprint on how to defeat high-level Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu with wrestling, and that was a Significant leap that the reverberations of are still being felt today, and it led to the rise of Sakuraba.
    This fight really opened a lot of people's eyes up. It's awful lay 'n pray otherwise.

    • @TamacStillium
      @TamacStillium Před 4 lety +20

      Your absolutly right!!

    • @HarpoTheVillain
      @HarpoTheVillain Před 4 lety +24

      What did Shamrock do? I'm new to this, is it the fact that he was able to avoid actually being choked by Royce?

    • @pivgfm
      @pivgfm Před 4 lety +46

      roids helped too

    • @trackerfiend
      @trackerfiend Před 4 lety +135

      @@HarpoTheVillain
      (This is an very lengthy reply, so apologies in advance)
      Gracie had defeated every opponent he had faced, including Shamrock at UFC 1.
      Gracie was submitting people off his back from within his guard, every which way, that it was seen as a guaranteed victory for Gracie, the moment Shamrock ended up in Gracie's guard, plus Gracie had beaten Shamrock relatively quickly at UFC 1.
      Fast foward to UFC 5, Shamrock ended up in Gracie's guard from the beginning, a guaranteed victory for Gracie at the time, when people realized Shamrock has been in Gracie's guard longer than anyone previously and hadn't tapped out yet, they knew maybe Gracie could be beaten , once Shamrock landed the punch in the stand up, the mystique of Gracie and GJJ, had been somewhat diminished.
      Before UFC 5- "No one can beat Royce... Gracie Jiu Jitsu is unbeatable...Gracie beat Shamrock already..."
      During UFC 5-(Shamrock takes Royce down and ends up in Gracie's Guard)
      (Fans)-"Uh-oh, Ken is in Gracie's Guard, it's all over now..."
      (15 mins in)
      (Fan's)-"Wait, Gracie hasn't submitted Shamrock yet..."
      "Shamrock's still in this fight"
      (20-25 mins in)
      (Fan's)-" Times running out, Shamrock needs to do something...Royce hasn't submitted Shamrock...Stand them up..."
      (31 mins and 6 seconds in, Fight restarted from the standing position-(Fight was scheduled for 30 mins, the promoters, Art Davie and Bob Meyrowitz, had so much money invested they wanted to give the fighters a chance and give the fans a clear winner)
      (Gracie)- " He's still standing and I don't have enough time ..."
      (Shamrock)-" Alright Royce, I've been in your guard, in your world, you've tried all your gi chokes, armbars, triangle chokes, sweeps and I'm still here"
      Royce throws a kick, in an attempt to bait Shamrock setting up a takedown, Shamrock counters with a straight right hand and hits Gracie flush on the eye, Gracie desperately reaches out in an attempt to clinch with Shamrock,
      Shamrock obliges, by securing an an over-under and turns Gracie to the canvas, Shamrock headbutts Gracie and proceeds to throw punches to Gracie's face, Gracie goes from any sort of offense to full defense.
      (Fans-) "Shamrock hit Gracie..."
      "Gracie's in trouble..."
      " Royce can still submit him..."
      " Ken's still going..."
      Overtime expires-
      Shamrock looks fresh and like he can go another 30 mins or longer.
      Gracie looks completely gassed, his gi is covered in his own blood, his nose is bloodied, right eye is busted open and nearly swollen shut, left eye is blackened as well and he is literally carried out of the arena by his brothers.
      Shamrock, looks over at Helio Gracie, whom was protesting for..." three more minutes", holds up 3 fingers, "you want three more minutes?"
      No clear cut winner and no judge's at this time, officially declared a draw.
      Fans reactions a justifiably mixed.
      Shamrock used a lot of dirty wrestling techniques within the guard(grinding the knuckles into Royce's sternum,headbutts, dropping an occasional elbow into Gracie's ribs, abdominal region) effectively neutralized Gracie's submission attempts from within the guard and proved that Gracie Jiu Jitsu wasn't the only effective submission grappling style and was far from unbeatable.
      Shamrock also proved that Royce wasn't in better condition than he was.
      Gracie demonstrated just how offensive he can be off his back( dozens of heel kicks to the lowerback of Shamrock, slaps and punches the back of Shamrock's head and neck, eziekel choke attempt)
      My own opinion is that at this stage in Shamrock's career, and how tired Gracie looked and his physical appearance afterwards, that had they continued for another 10-15 mins, Gracie would've have been so gassed, that Shamrock would've continued the onslaught on Gracie's face and would've sunk in a submission, but I don't believe Royce would've tapped. I think Referee John McCarthy, would've needed to intervene and stop the fight.
      UFC 6 Shamrock defeats Severn to become the first Superfight(openweight)Champion.
      Royce effectively retired after his fight with Shamrock and didn't compete for nearly three years until his return to BJJ competition and was choked unconscious by Wallid Ismail.
      Gracie Fans-Shamrock hid behind the safety of a time limit, and Gracie was moments away from submitting Shamrock.
      Shamrock Fans- Gracie was bloody mess and had to be carried out the octagon....Gracie hasn't fought in the UFC since( keep in mind this was looong before Zuffa)
      Unless you have grappled before, you really can't have an appreciation for this fight.

    • @veomax1937
      @veomax1937 Před 2 lety +6

      Bro this shit waxk 🤮

  • @drock91abr
    @drock91abr Před 3 lety +108

    "A japanese cartoon about Ken Shamrock. Also called a manga"
    I feel like the commentators knew how long this would run and prepared extra

  • @lupojacobo9892
    @lupojacobo9892 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Honestamente Samrock merecia la victoria

  • @ruslanyusublu4268
    @ruslanyusublu4268 Před 22 dny

    When I saw the video 45 minutes long, I said wow, what a long match, then watched it in under 5 minutes 😂

  • @mikebalazy8256
    @mikebalazy8256 Před 4 lety +236

    Most hugs get awkward after about 3 seconds, this was a 36 minute embrace

  • @eddobrzeniecki6568
    @eddobrzeniecki6568 Před 3 lety +490

    If Big John didnt stand them up and there was no time limit, they would still be laying on each other today.

  • @danielbernhardt469
    @danielbernhardt469 Před měsícem

    They hugged longer than I did with all my exes combined.

  • @davesdoorsandhomeimproveme5012

    Love it those were the days that created ufc

  • @bullfrogjay4383
    @bullfrogjay4383 Před 4 lety +124

    "We may have a looooong fight ahead of us"
    The commentator was not wrong.

  • @keithkirby7376
    @keithkirby7376 Před 2 lety +311

    I honestly forgot what shamrock looked like until they stood them up at 31 minutes.

  • @ScubaNut22
    @ScubaNut22 Před měsícem

    The U.S. was just getting exposed to Gracie Jui Jitsu and didn't understand what they were looking at. They had no idea how important it would become to mixed martial arts and fighting in general.

  • @cptpepper7731
    @cptpepper7731 Před rokem +850

    I know these guys are legends and all, but it's amazing how far mma has evolved from those days.

    • @sdqsdq6274
      @sdqsdq6274 Před rokem +16

      dont know man, pulling the sleeves , might as well tie a knot with it , lol

    • @Kyle-uz1rp
      @Kyle-uz1rp Před 11 měsíci +63

      Yea de-evolved you mean.
      When was the last 45 minute fight you have seen?

    • @cptpepper7731
      @cptpepper7731 Před 11 měsíci +38

      @@Kyle-uz1rp I think you’re looking for the word “devolve”.

    • @guitjolin
      @guitjolin Před 11 měsíci +34

      I miss the idea of "Bloodsport". All styles, coming from everywhere, and nowhere. I hope the kumite exists!!

    • @christopherjames9843
      @christopherjames9843 Před 11 měsíci +44

      TBH it was way more interesting in the early to mid 90's. People from different kinds of fighting arts competing against each other. Now everybody has the same skill sets.

  • @juntjoonunya9216
    @juntjoonunya9216 Před 2 lety +830

    I just came in to say I'm not gonna waste another 45 minutes of my life as I did back in 95.

    • @russellruffin368
      @russellruffin368 Před 2 lety

      FF. Lol.

    • @45tqk45
      @45tqk45 Před 2 lety +8

      i just did

    • @juntjoonunya9216
      @juntjoonunya9216 Před 2 lety +15

      @@45tqk45 haha so how was it? Was it the absolute worst fight you ever felt you had to watch? At least for me back then you HAD to watch it. The best part of it back then was imagining what you wanted them to do but never did.
      If you're doing a classics binge watch up to couture vs Belfort. That was the best of that age. It was the beginning of a new age

    • @45tqk45
      @45tqk45 Před 2 lety +21

      @@juntjoonunya9216 man, i'm going to be completely honest with you, i just watched the whole thing because of a comment that said this was a legendary moment on how to counter bjj, but yet the whole time i was waiting for "something" to happen,
      i had to laugh near the end tho and i could enjoy it, i do think that if i was younger and watching it for the 1st time i would consider it boring

    • @cleftboywonder
      @cleftboywonder Před 2 lety +1

      You saved me thanks

  • @user-ek4uk9yw4o
    @user-ek4uk9yw4o Před 2 měsíci +1

    Classic MMA Yesss Times Go Up

  • @bjw9529
    @bjw9529 Před 10 měsíci +5

    These are the UFC days that I love

  • @bryannguyen5579
    @bryannguyen5579 Před 4 lety +504

    We must really be missing sports if we just all watched 45 minutes of two guys hugging each other.

    • @666ofdoom
      @666ofdoom Před 4 lety +1

      Lmaooooo

    • @brilliantjustice2024
      @brilliantjustice2024 Před 4 lety +5

      I say what was coming, and skip to the end

    • @luismason190
      @luismason190 Před 4 lety +8

      Have you ever rolled??? If not then your comment is just disrespectful

    • @bryannguyen5579
      @bryannguyen5579 Před 4 lety +4

      @@luismason190 Yes I have and used to do wrestling as well. Sorry this was boring af.

    • @cardiocain2122
      @cardiocain2122 Před 4 lety +1

      @@luismason190 I pretty sure you will be pissed to watch 2 men just stay in the ground without action

  • @JWMCMLXXX
    @JWMCMLXXX Před 3 lety +255

    In retrospect, its kind of wild that this ever caught on.

    • @ashnadal5715
      @ashnadal5715 Před 3 lety +3

      Hahahahah

    • @NDUWUISI
      @NDUWUISI Před 3 lety +6

      It's what turned me off to UFC as a kid. It wasn't until adulthood that I gave it a chance again

    • @samme79
      @samme79 Před 3 lety +5

      ​@@NDUWUISI Same. First fight I saw was Tito Ortiz laying on someone for 5 rounds against Vladimir Matyushenko. Good thing I also gave it a chance after watching UFC 96 which was insane

    • @joshuabrant3487
      @joshuabrant3487 Před 3 lety +2

      There were many early fights with brutal knockouts it wasn't all crotch sniffing. You have to wonder why Shamrock even went to the ground perhaps his pride got the better of him.

    • @Augalv
      @Augalv Před 3 lety

      What in the hell do you mean?

  • @user-ld4bx4lw1p
    @user-ld4bx4lw1p Před 9 měsíci +1

    Shamrock learned how to defend/fight against Gracie Jujitsu. Gracie didn't learn anything outside his style of fighting. That's what hurt him.

  • @enriquelarodaescribano7586
    @enriquelarodaescribano7586 Před 9 měsíci

    Roygrecey sabe muy bien todo lo q hace y siempre esconcentrado esuna máquina y verlo lucharesextrudinario

  • @WardenOfTerra
    @WardenOfTerra Před 3 lety +586

    This fight is why we have all of the UFC rules lmao

    • @brionpriest1260
      @brionpriest1260 Před 2 lety +6

      Exactly

    • @davidritchie9344
      @davidritchie9344 Před 2 lety +27

      This was absurdly boring. I’d be so pissed if I paid to see this lol

    • @BizzyIzzy87
      @BizzyIzzy87 Před 2 lety +2

      what???

    • @remyhavoc4463
      @remyhavoc4463 Před 2 lety +9

      @@BizzyIzzy87 it was incredibly boring most of the time
      That's why we have 5 minute rounds now
      Wrestling can be entertaining unless it looks like two turtles

    • @JohnDoe-og2bt
      @JohnDoe-og2bt Před 2 lety +6

      @@davidritchie9344 Normally yes but the skill and pure resolve of these two fighters was intense. The fight could've went either way in any of those 1800 seconds

  • @QWERTY10680
    @QWERTY10680 Před 2 lety +394

    This was the first PPV I remember watching. We saw it at my uncle's house who had the magical black box. If you know, you know.

    • @Enycbx
      @Enycbx Před 2 lety +13

      That's how I saw Summer Slam when Hulk Hogan fought Papa Shango. 😁

    • @bigdee1216
      @bigdee1216 Před 2 lety +28

      I know because I had one too. Even had all the porn channels.

    • @MarvoloSalazar
      @MarvoloSalazar Před 2 lety +8

      Man you just brought back some happy memories. We used to watch wwf on that thing

    • @buckodonnghaile4309
      @buckodonnghaile4309 Před 2 lety +8

      I'm old and your comment brings back good memories. Cheers

    • @shaheedrobinson3369
      @shaheedrobinson3369 Před 2 lety +4

      I know

  • @prasannagunawardana5323
    @prasannagunawardana5323 Před 10 měsíci

    I have seen this fight many times . I havent words to say its.

  • @juan3zz
    @juan3zz Před 9 měsíci +3

    Gracie lost that fight. But, I gather because of the rules at that time, it was called a draw. Shamrock stayed in the dominate position throughout the entire fight, and he busted open Gracie's face. Shamrock won!

  • @kakalis2323
    @kakalis2323 Před 4 lety +536

    And this is where the standup rule comes from 😂

    • @deceiver123m
      @deceiver123m Před 4 lety +8

      Should allow headbutts and the groin grab. No tap out with the groin grab.

    • @ZakEames
      @ZakEames Před 4 lety

      @@deceiver123m lol

    • @jonathangonzalez9673
      @jonathangonzalez9673 Před 4 lety +8

      @@deceiver123m that's just straight pathetic if implement on a sport, seriously, maybe in a real life situation if you suck badly at grlundgame but still you would probably end up choked, people thinks scaping grappling is easy hahahhaha oh boy oh boy

    • @leoconchola3163
      @leoconchola3163 Před 4 lety +1

      They needed that for that fight

    • @areebali2245
      @areebali2245 Před 4 lety +1

      @@jonathangonzalez9673 in real life u mostly get slammed on the ground n end up getting knocked out.....theres a lotta videos

  • @donny2700
    @donny2700 Před 4 lety +110

    Dad: What's the lesson that we've learned from all of this, Son?
    Son: Well Dad, I've learned that we really don't need to fight people. We can just hug it out.

  • @LuizgonzagaBastos
    @LuizgonzagaBastos Před 8 měsíci

    Aí é uma prova viva que a técnica vence peso e altura...lll

  • @DrJuice1
    @DrJuice1 Před 6 měsíci

    In Pancrase you had a time limit when you went to the mat. If no one made progress, the ref would stand you back up and restart the fight. I guess UFC didn't adopt that bc it would've given strikers a huge advantage over the Gracies whereas in Pancrase there was usually more balance between opponents

  • @KULCAT79
    @KULCAT79 Před 3 lety +92

    "This changes everything.... anything can happen...both on their feet"
    Got back on the ground

  • @Roadstar1602
    @Roadstar1602 Před 2 lety +462

    Every once in a while I come back and watch these old fights. It's amusing listening to the announcers, who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.

    • @buckodonnghaile4309
      @buckodonnghaile4309 Před 2 lety +9

      In hindsight these early ones are funny but at the time as a teenager I thought this was the greatest show on earth.

    • @GALATIG313
      @GALATIG313 Před 2 lety +33

      Gracie with those kidney shots to the......................................................................................................................................................kidneys

    • @Jdoug305
      @Jdoug305 Před 2 lety +2

      @@GALATIG313 wait so what was Gracie hitting I thought it was actually kidney shots lol

    • @GALATIG313
      @GALATIG313 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Jdoug305 Announcer was so correct he had to state it twice LOL

    • @domxem5551
      @domxem5551 Před 2 lety +1

      You say that as if you had

  • @SpitefulAZ
    @SpitefulAZ Před 5 měsíci +2

    The true Pinnacle of MMA fighting. PERFECTION

  • @TenThumbsProductions
    @TenThumbsProductions Před 3 lety +1643

    They waited 31 minutes to stand them up... yeesh.

    • @Eotty30
      @Eotty30 Před 3 lety +76

      Only for them to go back down 😭

    • @BillStoppard
      @BillStoppard Před 3 lety +73

      Yeah, it's a fight; there is no choreography.

    • @Minsang1st
      @Minsang1st Před 3 lety +11

      Bill Stoppard Skating BSS lol you’re clueless

    • @jimtoboggan1290
      @jimtoboggan1290 Před 3 lety +20

      I mean, that’s what will happen when you’re trying to promote bjj

    • @zeroone3804
      @zeroone3804 Před 3 lety +24

      this was when anything goes with nut punching etc, no one is gunna stand you up in the streets

  • @johndavis3969
    @johndavis3969 Před 2 lety +438

    Crazy to see how much this sport has evolved. History right here folks.

  • @shanedowling7066
    @shanedowling7066 Před 4 měsíci

    If u spend 30 minutes grinding your balls against the opponents balls, then there has to be a high level of respect to the opposition

  • @publikenemi49
    @publikenemi49 Před 10 měsíci

    I don’t want to hear the technique/ art form argument. Both fighters essentially locked in neutral hold positions for that amount a time is an injustice to fight game. After a minute or two of being locked in neutrality, both fighters should be ordered back up to the standing start position. To allow this to go on and on , is to favor for one fighting style over another.

  • @mchase4
    @mchase4 Před 3 lety +3538

    Best sleep I’ve ever had

    • @Lewiinn
      @Lewiinn Před 3 lety +24

      Love it

    • @Hercolubus33
      @Hercolubus33 Před 3 lety +71

      These "fighters" might as well have been naked on the floor the whole time. Lame ass fight.

    • @happythepanda9954
      @happythepanda9954 Před 3 lety +16

      I used to watch your videos of bulletforece like years ago how u doing man look like u quit youtube now.

    • @HakmanTim
      @HakmanTim Před 3 lety +2

      why are you everywhere lol

    • @Hercolubus33
      @Hercolubus33 Před 3 lety +12

      @Caribbean Ín The House, LOL, you compelled me to watch it at 25:51 and you are right, full loin engagement between the two.

  • @stevepayne2795
    @stevepayne2795 Před rokem +779

    Pure sportsmanship, cuddling for 45 minutes after a tough fight, dose anyone have a copy of the actual fight though.

    • @MegaMaurizione
      @MegaMaurizione Před rokem +10

      aww

    • @edcharters5318
      @edcharters5318 Před rokem +2

      @@MegaMaurizione point yea

    • @davidhaddad9022
      @davidhaddad9022 Před rokem +15

      This was actually before the fight, they were trying to establish comradery and sportsmanship to demonstrate that the fight was going to be purely competitive. But yeah I'd also like a copy of the actual fight if someone has it.

    • @cq6705
      @cq6705 Před rokem +20

      Cuddling is still alive with Khabib and his crew

    • @benjio6046
      @benjio6046 Před rokem +3

      They tried to rear each other but got full frontal instead all match long. If they kissed that would really explain a lot about this match.

  • @CR-bc1zt
    @CR-bc1zt Před 2 měsíci

    The UFC was totally class back then but Gracie has advantages using his GI. Not only that, he was world class at Jiu-jitsu.

  • @Syfer92
    @Syfer92 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This real MMA SPIRIT ; vale tudo Original fight, i start MMA after that's ... today UFC is sport :-(
    at this time all men go inside octogone are "Real Man" = Brave ! and deserve the Respect !

  • @Jesse_Carreon
    @Jesse_Carreon Před 4 lety +611

    I would recommend skipping from 6:23 to 45:37.
    Don’t worry you won’t miss a thing

    • @boredatwork1266
      @boredatwork1266 Před 4 lety +14

      well shamrock does tag gracie with a pretty good shot in between those times, but for all intents and purposes you are correct haha

    • @chaylahhannah5995
      @chaylahhannah5995 Před 4 lety +4

      Man I’m glad I found this comment

    • @TJuice1986
      @TJuice1986 Před 4 lety +6

      Are you serious? That was some of the best Gracie defense you will ever see!

    • @MrJintensive
      @MrJintensive Před 4 lety

      0:00-86:69

    • @oyvindmort8148
      @oyvindmort8148 Před 4 lety +1

      Lmfao TRUEEEE

  • @SurajSharmaFourKnob
    @SurajSharmaFourKnob Před 4 lety +998

    I like the part when they were lying on the ground

  • @Jrm__15
    @Jrm__15 Před měsícem

    Boring fight aside, it’s impressive how heavily Ken mitigated Royce’s BJJ. First man to really shut Royce down like that. Two legends.

    • @MyZ001
      @MyZ001 Před 26 dny

      So, it's funny but he only mitigated BJJ by not doing anything but staying in his guard. It's basically like all you have to do to mitigate boxing is stay in the clinch. Or even worse if one boxer just stands just out of striking range and not throwing any punches. Like, yea it'll work and you wont lose. But, then it's not a fight anymore. And, you wont win either.
      And, thats the equivalent of what Shamrock did. He just sat there. This is why there have been "stalling" rules implemented in grappling sports. if the only goal is too "survive'" the other person, then WTF are we doing here? This is is a spectator sport dammit😆

  • @jefferson270892
    @jefferson270892 Před 10 měsíci +74

    Atitude e respeito. Jiu Jitsu do Brasil. Família Gracie, respeito total.

    • @MrAlekzinho
      @MrAlekzinho Před 7 měsíci +1

      Tudu meu

    • @Robc210
      @Robc210 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Shamrock beat him silly ,
      And Sakuraba destroyed all Gracie’s haha had them crying like babies 👶🏻 ,

    • @GJrrrr
      @GJrrrr Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@Robc210 you need to learn something about respect

    • @SINdaBlock411
      @SINdaBlock411 Před 5 měsíci

      pendejo

  • @danielvermeer3619
    @danielvermeer3619 Před 3 lety +182

    I like how they took a pic of them standing to lure you in haha

    • @dblexcrss
      @dblexcrss Před 3 lety +1

      Good one

    • @sidogpmj
      @sidogpmj Před 3 lety

      I moved the cursor through the whole 45 min and just about didnt watch any of it

    • @350vidali2
      @350vidali2 Před 3 lety

      The whole fight just one pose so lame haha

    • @sidogpmj
      @sidogpmj Před 3 lety

      @@350vidali2 ya missionary position

    • @mattpires607
      @mattpires607 Před 3 lety

      This fight is so old and iconic who the hell didn’t know how this goes

  • @infoVn800
    @infoVn800 Před 4 lety +479

    i forwardrd this Video 7 times and Nothing changed ..

    • @masummitra7683
      @masummitra7683 Před 4 lety +1

      hihihihihi

    • @ardiansyahr2110
      @ardiansyahr2110 Před 4 lety +1

      Same with me..

    • @jackhasselhoff1021
      @jackhasselhoff1021 Před 4 lety +4

      I foward it hour and thirty minutes it's still the same true story

    • @sbo6477
      @sbo6477 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes nothing changed, u dont think thats weird? They dont have breaks inbetween like now, this a 30min braw

    • @beeman9845
      @beeman9845 Před 4 lety +4

      @@sbo6477 bra... you must have a whole deifferent definition of what the word brawl mean

  • @turgid4391
    @turgid4391 Před 8 měsíci

    one of the many reasons we have many rounds now and fighters get stood up if no action is occuring. this fight should have been a more entertaining and dynamic fight.

  • @joeb5578
    @joeb5578 Před 4 měsíci

    The audio/visual mouth sync is so far off, it makes old b & w videos look good.

  • @misterx6490
    @misterx6490 Před rokem +310

    Fights like this are why they decided to have five minute rounds.

    • @Jeffdachefz
      @Jeffdachefz Před rokem +40

      and the referee stand up rule for no activity.

    • @jturk0131
      @jturk0131 Před rokem +11

      Royce Gracie is a joke like Mayweather...ruined the sport

    • @samsonknight5610
      @samsonknight5610 Před rokem +16

      How did Mayweather ruin the sport? The point of boxing is to hit your opp and not get hit and he is the master at it.

    • @neallyons9515
      @neallyons9515 Před rokem +14

      @@jturk0131 Gracie showing that BJJ is the most effective martial art in an actual fight ruined the sport? How did that ruin the sport exactly? You realize Gracie was there at the very beginning, on the actual night the sport really started? So there was no sport to ruin, it didn't exist before him.

    • @typeosign5094
      @typeosign5094 Před rokem +4

      @@neallyons9515 If BJJ is the most effective martial art in an actual fight, why are the vast majority of mma champions trained in other disciplines as well? Clearly it's one of the most important skills, but you can't say that it is, by itself, the most effective. Anyone who is trained only in BJJ is usually not going to win against someone trained in BJJ who also has striking skills.

  • @bugz3349
    @bugz3349 Před 4 lety +689

    I respect the hell out of both of these legends. But god damn, this has to be one of the most boring fights in ufc history.

    • @BRedFilms
      @BRedFilms Před 4 lety +17

      Its like watching two glaciers arm wrestle

    • @lastpirateslife
      @lastpirateslife Před 4 lety +8

      my all time favorite bout.... chess match.

    • @bugz3349
      @bugz3349 Před 4 lety +44

      @@lastpirateslife Its like a chess match where nobody ever moves a piece on the board.

    • @catlike4456
      @catlike4456 Před 4 lety +46

      This is the moment when they decided to invent the blessed rule of "Stand them up if nothing's happening"

    • @truthteller5521
      @truthteller5521 Před 4 lety +2

      Trump's #1 fan 😂

  • @coelhoverde1692
    @coelhoverde1692 Před 10 měsíci +16

    Luta excelente, 40 minutos de abraço apertado e suspiros, vai entender esses "guerreiros".

    • @viniciustoaldogiumbelli7368
      @viniciustoaldogiumbelli7368 Před 4 měsíci

      Cada um se dá bem em uma certa arte marcial não é pq a luta é feia que eles não são guerreiros

    • @marcosgangemi7386
      @marcosgangemi7386 Před 4 měsíci

      Cara, da pra ver a superioridade do Americano, em peso, massa muscular e força! Nem o jiujitsu dos gracies nao segurou o Ken Shermock ! Por isso Roice abraçou ele laçando o seu pescoço e segurando no proprio pano do seu kimono pois se entrasse de sem kimono ia apanhar mais que ladrao quando é pego pelo povo ! A unica ferramenta que ele tinha a seu favor era seu proprio kimono para tentar travar o seu oponente bem mais forte, e conhecia a tecniva tambem!

  • @CLanzetta1970-
    @CLanzetta1970- Před 7 měsíci +1

    Shamrock won that fight…boring or not, he won that fight! He stayed on top and pounded Royce. I’m sorry…..he’s a legend, but Shamrock beat him! PERIOD!

  • @adamboagey
    @adamboagey Před 3 lety +143

    The fact I’ve watched this in its entirety leads me to question my sanity and sparks concern for my mental health

    • @heroblok6
      @heroblok6 Před 3 lety +3

      It took me about 8 mins to realize, wait let me skip ahead and see whats really going on🤦‍♂️

    • @popfeske3612
      @popfeske3612 Před 3 lety +2

      Imagine watching it when it happened. I can still remember most of it. I fell asleep and when I woke up it was still going.

    • @buffalowick8003
      @buffalowick8003 Před 3 lety +2

      @@popfeske3612 Usman fights somehow rival this.

    • @Sovereign_Citizen_LEO
      @Sovereign_Citizen_LEO Před 3 lety +1

      The fact that I've watched this probably 3 or 4 times over the years (maybe unintentionally) has me questioning my sexuality.

    • @d68st90
      @d68st90 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO WTF??? who in the hell does this? ahahahahhah

  • @user-nu1uh4cj7i
    @user-nu1uh4cj7i Před 4 lety +332

    40 mins of missionary position.
    ok dude

    • @koothrapauleekoopaul2606
      @koothrapauleekoopaul2606 Před 4 lety +3

      pornography is BJJ and BJJ is pornography, simple as that. BJJ punch like a woman in labor, legs spread wide like an express highway.

    • @PH_INFO_101
      @PH_INFO_101 Před 4 lety +7

      @@koothrapauleekoopaul2606 I was going to comment, however, history proves that you can tell a child not to touch a stove because they get burned, unfortunately, the wisdom falls on deaf ears as the majority of children must learn this lesson the hard way.

    • @anthonysanchez119
      @anthonysanchez119 Před 4 lety

      c mamo

    • @TheScience69
      @TheScience69 Před 4 lety +2

      40 mins of a cheating wanker hugging shamrock and desperately trying to use his gi as a weapon*

    • @MrLennybach
      @MrLennybach Před 4 lety +1

      only if you are fucking

  • @briandarga5443
    @briandarga5443 Před 4 měsíci

    Beautiful movie well choreographed bravo! To the cineast

  • @MichaelFowble-wx1hh
    @MichaelFowble-wx1hh Před 7 měsíci +2

    Gracie's face looked like he was hit by a truck.

  • @calripplebear1293
    @calripplebear1293 Před 2 lety +118

    if the UFC had continued on like this, there would not be a UFC...

  • @chosensonofgod8513
    @chosensonofgod8513 Před 4 lety +812

    My favorite part is 00:45 seconds in when the announcer feels the need to tell us Ken Shamrock has had sex.

    • @TT0ny_
      @TT0ny_ Před 4 lety +9

      Hahahaha 🤣

    • @reyes3579
      @reyes3579 Před 4 lety +4

      ChosenSonOfGod lmfao

    • @ibbeubbe1894
      @ibbeubbe1894 Před 4 lety +22

      He had some sex lmao 😂😂😂

    • @eyesauron
      @eyesauron Před 4 lety +3

      im dying lol

    • @LAKXx
      @LAKXx Před 4 lety +37

      At 37:10 he further emphasizes that it was ''Very Wild Sex''

  • @briancamp8002
    @briancamp8002 Před měsícem

    Who else has watched big John ref fights for years maybe even 20 years and wonder how would he match up against some of these guys