Is Wet Shimming Easy? Laticrete Hydro Ban Board Wet Shim How To!
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Great video! One tip we recommend is using a bead of HYDRO BAN® Adhesive Sealant on the edge of the HYDRO BAN Board before the board is installed, and then flattenning it out with a putty knife or trowel.
I'm not sure how you keep your sanity reading some of these negative comments, thank god there's not many. Keep up the good work, your videos are awesome
Thanks
This is great for the foam board. I often times screed the thinset on the studs with hot thinset. Then attach my drywall/non foam board the same day. But the easiest method is to use drywall shims and a staple gun. Work the corners first then flush-out the rest of the studs after putting a straight edge horizontally on the wall. Install board the same day.
Lastly, instead of using a wood planer, I use a 4" cup wheel grinder, it removes wood from the stud quickly and can get to areas a planer can't.
Excellent work!
perfect now for going to 5/8ths dry wall lots of good tips thumbs up
Brilliant stuff 👍👍👍
Thank you, I will start shimming my walls today and apply go boards tonight
Brilliant video
Did some wet shimming today with GoBoard and it works great
I hope I get to see the remainder of the build. Thanks again for sharing.
2-3 videos on this build coming soon!
Excellent knowledge! Now if I could just convince my boss to buy more thinset ]:
could use a few screws on the studs as to form a stop so not to squeeze out to much of the bedding material
Fantastic work as usual. I have one question, when you put the rest of the screws in the next day does it Crack the thinset between the backer board and the stud? lmk thanks!
No, screws go in without problems
Jus a thought could you use a grout motor bag full of thinset🤔
Why not put a very thick bead of construction adhesive on all studs?
Will wet shimming work on say Durock cement board? Love the videos I've learned alot. Also I use a lot of the tools you suggest on a daily basis!
Yes it work it’s just a bit harder since the actual board it self is much heavier but still works.
Yes!
This method does work. I prefer to use ripped down pieces of plywood and construction adhesive though. But, whatever gets the job done.
Wet shimming is much faster than ripping and installing shims of any kind. The only downside is you have to wait for it to dry, so if you have no other tile work on the project you're going home early for the day. Planing is another good option. I use all three, sometimes on the same walls.
Beautiful work as always, and every time you finish a tile job your niche is perfectly aligned with the tile. How do you measure your niche so it meets your tile lines?
Hard to explain, this video may help czcams.com/video/q5lM6s4pJDg/video.html
With a tape measure.
That only works if the client doesn't specify taller niches. Mine have asked for 14 inches inside finish.
@@BZ1340 Yep, 12" is too small, looks too small imo. Most shampoo bottles are about that size, some even bigger. I make mine large, 16" tall. I make them focal points and I never buy premade niches.....
Do you often use prefabricated niches or make your own? And why, thank you. Great video showing all steps.
We do both brother, depends on the tile. Mostly prefab niches
What would happen if you tried to wet shim with hardibacker?
What is your recipe for mixing up a "small portion of thinset"? I can't use a whole 50 lb. bag of All Set in one go- Thanks!
I reviewed this 5 years ago and we use it all the time for grout and thinset! The link is in the video description if you want to check pricing.
czcams.com/video/uYe2YL9nwrU/video.html
If you get the back wall plumb and flat, does that guarantee the side walls (plumbing, other wall) will be square to it after you make them plumb and flat?
No, who knows how square the framers made the walls
Can I do this with hardie backer ?
I've been told no, concrete board absorbs all the moisture in the thinset.
can i set tile the same day if i wet shim or would i need to use something that rapid sets
We let the thinset set up for at least 2-3 hours
Excellent video as always. Can't find Hydroban board here (near Seattle) and it's really hard to find Kerdi board too, or All Set - highly annoying trying to source materials from all over and online.
Go to the website laticrete dot com and they have a "where to buy" Also, if you get ahold of a rep, they can ship the boards. Lastly, contractors direct dot com sells hydro ban boards.
You can also try KBRS board, which I believe can be ordered online and shipped in the contiguous US.
Go Board at Lowes. Same thing, great stuff.
@@JH-lb3kc - Does GoBoard have a cementitious coating?
@@PlucharC Not sure, sort of feels like it. It's 100% waterproof, lightweight, cut with knife, and tile ready. Just caulk the seems and holes just like Hydroban. No extra waterproofing needed.
Can you wet shim cement boards?
You shouldn't wet shim anything, other than tile itself. Stop being lazy and learn the rite way. Go buy yourself a 2x and spend a couple hours and do it the rite way
@@amariza21 i been doing it the right way who are you telling wet shimming new to me calm your tits down
Im not a stranger to wet shimming, or using furing strips, draywall shims or even built with foam wall shims, but i do like wet shimming, it would be sweet if we can figure a way to put this thinset in a sausage gun or something to squeeze on the studs..... just a thought
Great video by the way
Put thinset into a grout bag. But it likely wont work well as the thinset wants to be mashed against the stud to make it stick and stay put. Plus it can't be too loose or it will sag off the studs.
How come you waited until the next day before placing all the screws into the board?
You need to wait for the thinset to cure/set up. If you screw it off the same day, it will suck the board in and it will not be flat/plumb.
@@LandbergTileTV cool thanks
Interesting what money does.LOL You were a huge Schluter user.
Still use Schluter, but can't get board. Laticrete is faster waterproofing walls and made in the USA brother. I like to represent that.
@@LandbergTileTV faster waterproofing?
@@j.w.r.i2910 for the boards yes, no troweling thinny, cutting band and sticking. Only sealant between seams.
@@j.w.r.i2910 And flatter. No banding buildup. I wish my supplier up in Northern BC would stock the Laticrete, especially now that Kerdi has become extinct.
Schluter boards have been hard to get for months! Talk to you Laticrete reps and they will help you understand how to best use their products (i.e. waterproofing with adhesive/sealant). One thing my rep told me is that Laticrete does not recommend more than a 3/8" wet shim behind the boards.
Like the videos.
I would like to know something. Maybe someone can chime in. I poured some self leveler in a shower floor area surrounded by curb and walls and the next day the shit was not level. Flat but 1/8” out of level. Wtf?
Haha
I can see that Rubber bucket insert thing for faster mortar cleanup didn't last long.
Still have it, I need to clean it out and put it back on site.
@@LandbergTileTV I thought the purpose of it was that it didn’t need cleaning because mortar would not stick to the rubber?
@@mattcraztex9940 I'm using Multi Max Lite and that thinset sticks to everything like glue!
Stabila 80 series. No man rbeam baby.
It's all cleaned up and back on site brother!
Everyone from drywallers to the GC have said, ‘ why do the studs need to be flat, doesn’t your thin set do that’ 😑
Every damned day
lol right!? Let's float each and every tile regardless of big or small
Why didnt you make your mortar bed the first day? Or wet shim and cut out the niche next day? Seems like a lot of time is being wasted here
We put board up prior to mortar bed. Install mixing valve, wet shim and install board, install mortar bed in one day. We needed to pull measurements off/from the mortar bed to obtain proper niche framing/placement in order to have full subway tiles start from the pan and a full tile end at the bottom of the niche. Day one was massive demo of shower/soffits, backsplash, removal of debris and obtaining all materials for the multiple projects in the property. We did not get to mortar bed day one.
I'd rather just back butter all the tiles an extra inch
its called thinset for a reason
He's using small subway tile, don't think you want to back butter small tiles that would be a nightmare.
Sarcasm?
I think he's being a funny guy
@@LandbergTileTV Lets hope so but if not I would not want him working for me.
If I would ever do that so called “wet shim”, I wouldn’t say it to anyone. Definitely not go public with that.
lol, we've done it dozens of times and works great!
Gosh....next guy to work on this in a decade is going to not enjoy this.
Im a carpenter and also very experienced with installing tile. This way is the most lazy and unprofessional way to level . Everything wring with this method.
I don't care how many years of experience you have, you can't call yourself a professional if you use this method.
Because something is acceptable, it doesn't mean it's the rite way
This is a professional way of making your walls "plumb" Everything is correct with this method and yes, I'm a professional.
@@LandbergTileTV lol, im sorry to disagree with you, but this is not thr correct way. This is the lazy and easy way. Because all yo do it and it's acceptable, it doesn't mean is the correct way
@@amariza21 Yes, correct way and not a lazy easy way. Please show me a video of how you do it.
I have had both Schluter and Laticrete reps show and explain this method to ensure that your wall is flat and plumb. The TCNA has nothing on this method, however, they defer to the manufacturers' recommendations. So, it may not be your preferred method, but it is approved by manufacturers and would therefore be considered one of multiple correct ways to install their boards.
@@chrisriddle538 once again, acceptable doesn't mean is the correct way. There is a understanding between a tile installer and a carpenter and this situation you have to understand both. I have over 20 years of experience as a finish carpenter, and tile installer . I have seen people do so many things because is acceptable, but doesn't mean is the correct way.
I can give a 100 difference reasons from a carpener's perspective why u shouldn't wet shim.
There is a couple of tile installer very famous on CZcams that i never seen wet shim walls.
Everyone has different way of doing things the correct way, but this isn't one of them. No matter what the book says