TroyBilt Horse Riding Lawn Tractor Drive Belt Replacement
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- čas přidán 17. 11. 2019
- @DanDoesDIY @TroyBilt
TroyBilt Horse Riding Lawn Tractor Drive Belt Replacement
Replace your own broken Lawn Tractor belt! In this video, we're replacing the main drive belt on a 2009 TroyBilt Horse. This video covers Models 13AX79KT/13WX79KT, as well as other Craftsman and Husqvarna lawn tractors.
Belt used in this repair:
954-04252 - www.amazon.com/dp/B0058PKRXW
Manual:
www.troybilt.com/equipment/tr...
Tools:
3/8", 5/8", 3/4" Sockets
3/8" & 7/16" Wrench
3/8" Ratchet and Extension
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Thanks for being one of several videos I viewed making this a shade tree DIY. Not the easiest task when you are mid-seventies, but got 'er done.
Glad to hear it helped!
Great job Dan. I feel more comfortable being able to DIY’ing this. Thanks!!
😎👍🏼
This video Helped me out a lot! Thank you for sharing! Let me see what other useful info you have on your channel☺️😊
Your video help me a lot thanks Man I have about 2 days trying to replace this belt. now I know how God bless you, I really apreciate this.
I’m very happy to hear that, helping people is the exact reason that I make these videos! Thanks for the feedback!
100% answered a couple questions I had about doing the drive belt on my Hydro horse. Thank you much!
Glad it helped!
AWESOME video! Thank You SOOOO VERY Much for making and posting this video! it REALY helped me to change the transmission drive belt on my 1987 troy-bilt yard tractor.
Excellent explanation!
Excellent cameraman excellent host.
Very explanatory
Thank you
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thank You!
Good job ,,nice tools ,,great mechanic
Thanks for this video.. saved me a lot of time/$$.. happy holidays!
Awesome vid!
Excellent explanation
Thank you! Hope it helps!
You don’t need to take off the fan nut, If you’re willing to take the deck off and stand the tractor on end. I was able to hand turn the pulley and push the belt in between the guards. Great video man!!! Big help!
Thank you
Very good explanation!!
Another good idea to do when the deck is off is to clean all the grass and debris from the top and bottom.. Deck fires do happen.. its not worth it to risk it.. I blow the whole tractor off after every mow.. sometimes in the middle of mowing.. it really helps a lot when doing jobs like this to have a clean working environment 😁👍🏼
Thanks MNpicker! Yea, people don’t realize that is what kills most mowers is a rotted deck. I usually combine the leaf blower and the air compressor to get them all good and clean.
Great video lot of info before I started thanks. 7-21-2022
I enjoy mowing 2 times a year. The first time and the last time.
On my TB Super-Bronco: I had to loosen up the 3 bolts to the variable speed pulley assembly where the upper & lower belts run to get enough room to get the belts on / off. Also, instead of trying to take the heavy duty spring off (and back on) of the idler pulley for the upper belt, I rigged up a binder strap around the back of the tractor and compressed the spring that way to finish up the upper belt install. There's also a belt retainer screw & bushing that had to come off to get the old belt off, new one back on. It's accessible through a hole strategically drilled on the bottom 'skid' plate. Putting the mower deck back on was painful too until I shimmed up the front about 2", then was able to get the rear pins installed. All in all, what a pain to replace these belts, but I'm appreciative of this video, thanks.
Thank you thank you thank you!
Good job demonstrating. Next time you record make sure to turn your mic volume up. I could barely hear you through most of it.
Thank you this was so helpful. My mower got stuck and spun the belt which got loose and stopped gripping the pulleys
I’m glad the video helped!
1 second ago
Just figured out an easy way to remove hydrostatic transmission fan so you can get the belt off much easier. Take out the four bolts that build the body to the axle, put long 5/16 or quarter inch bolts in their place. Put a bottle jack under the trailer hitch Lift the body up in about an inch to an inch and a half and the fan will slide right off of the shaft.
Hello, this is a very educational video. I just bought a Troy Built Bronco. 20 hp courage, 42" cut. Garage kept. Very nice mower. But it seems like it is going faster in reverse than in forward drive. I was thinking of starting with the drive belt. Would really appreciate any insight on this issue.
Need to turn your volume up
from watching you i put the belt on fan side first too.....and yeah the tangs there bend really easy probably on purpose?
Helpful video / world's crappiest audio
How do you keep the front pulley from spinning when you loosen the bolt?
Made mowing so much easier...
My riding mower would not go up hills. A guy fixed it but the problem is back. He put a new belt on. Is there an adjustment to make it work to get tighter tension? Or do I need a new tensor spring
Hey man is this the upper or lower belt drive im looking up the belt but it shows upper and lower? I need to replace the one that goes to the gas pedal
This was a very informative video. My only suggestion is to please clear the dead grass of the deck before recording. Thanks
Great info and video, but the audio was low and cutting out at times.
You did good on your first try
Glade i didn't buy one! he hee but i did get a lemon on the Craftsman T 140, The transmission belt kept jumping threw the belt guard on the pully! IDK HOW IN THE WORLD IT CAN DO IT? Its a mystery! i check the idler pullies out. tension spring all looks good. Its a new riding lawn mower that 6 months old. I can't take it back to them. 30 day warranty But it still keeps jumping out of the belt guard, and it close to the pully. 🤪 So i parked it and use my dependable Pony. I'll work on it a cooler day
great video, i was wondering on my tb, the lower transmission belt has a lot of slack, is this normal? it doesn’t matter whether i press brake pedal or not
The brake pedal won't affect the belt tension. Press the pedal that makes it go forward. That should take the slack out.
I was giving a 46in horse troy bilt i got ot running then i tried to remove the deck to put a belt back on but i removed the pins and springs but didnt see where thay removed from please help i have most replaced but i have a big spring im not sure of
How did you get the fan pulley nut off of it? I have tried and mine will not break lose.
If I could do it all again and if you’re just replacing the belt, I would just use a socket and an extension to turn that pulley while feeding the new belt into the guide. I don’t think removal of that fan was absolutely necessary. Let me know if that works for you?
Thank you Dan for the video, (my wife won't help me push the tractor, LOL). I have a question, maybe you can help me, Coincidentally, I recently changed the drive belt and I don't know if that will be the cause of my problem, I have a Troy bilt pony (2011), now I can only control the speed with the throttle lever, even when I put it in rabbit mode the motor goes at high rpm, but the ground speed is about half the normal speed; the (yellow on mine) speed control lever doesn’t work, it goes up and down without locking the notches, offers no resistance and does nothing. (however, the engaging of the parking brake action works fine). I opened up the mower and saw the yellow speed control lever attached to a connecting rod which is attached down there to the cupped metal piece in the correct position as the new Troy Bilt Pony I saw yesterday at Home Depot, but besides allowing to be put in in park position, I don’t see it attached to anything else, is it right? How does it regulate the speed if it is not connected to anything else? Thank you in advance.
Helpful video but the low volume is a real issue.
Yea... first video and it was iPad audio. Sorry about that...
Great video man. Really well done. My only suggestion would be to get a lapel mike for when you are talking and working so we can hear you better. Welcome aboard the CZcams train!
Salem Doyle thanks man! I actually did get a cheap lapel mic part way through filming. There are some parts that were VO’d with he new mic. I’m excited! Your videos were part of my inspiration to get started with this!
@@asysz that's awesome.
Great video! Is the horse and bronco the same?
I believe they are very similar, aside from deck, engine, and transmission type.
Someone help, I cannot get the front pulley loosened so that I can lower it and put the new belt on. I use device grips but those don't grip tight enough for how tight this thing is on there, how did he use an impact wrench, why didn't the pulley turn???
so i got the new belt on and tried it around the yard with no deck......works fine now and is quieter......i do have a few concerns though......its not completely quieter but that might be normal......it also smells like burning belt.....the question i have is i put the belt inside the 2 post on either side of the engine pulley and wondering if that is correct?....maybe the belt goes outside of those posts?
ok at 4:25 answered my question
Dan.. do i need to drain the oil before lifting the lawnmower up or on it's side?
As long as you don't lean it past like 90* of its normal orientation, you should be fine. Also leaning it rearward is typically fine. It's usually only an issue if you lean it too far towards the carburetor side of the engine.
Put some boots on !!!
Hi Dan, do you know how to put a new fan on without lowering the transmission?
Can't be done
@@dougchicknell1933 That's what I thought, but it's so insane I thought, maybe there is a trick I'm missing. Thanks so much for responding. I will make me feel better as I'm dropping the trans for the second time in two weeks.
Left or Right hand thread on the driveshaft? I have basically the same tractor....
Are you referring to the bolt holding the pulley into the engine? It’s right hand. I think everything was right hand on the is tractor. Good luck!
One question.... Befor u took of the front pulley, did u drain the oil in the engine? I have a 2017 troybilt bronco and I have seen videos where ppl take that front pulley off with no oil coming out. If I take it off of mine oil starts leaking as soon as I turn the bolt few times. Am I missing something?
Whoa, that’s strange. You shouldn’t get any oil come from the crank shaft. I’m not really sure where you’re getting oil from. I wonder if your lower crank seal is leaking oil into the top of the pulley and you’re getting some come out when you remove the bolt. What engine do you have? A Kohler courage?
@@asysz I have no idea where the oil comes from . I have no leaks as far as I know and yes I believe it is a kohler engine.
You sound like Kevin Sorbo
Great video . But I can not hear you.
y troy bilt horse has a upper drive bely that attaches to the to the fan under the battery compartment
Can’t remove the pulley crankshaft!
This is an outstanding video and all the work you have done. Is there anyway I can contact you and ask you a question. I will add the description of my problem and see if I get any feedback. I have a new version of that mower and I have had nothing but problems with it. The good part is it always starts and runs fine
And drive the mower very smooth at all speeds. No surging or vibrations anywhere.
However,..as soon as I engage the deck the vibrations rattle the entire mower, and worse at high speeds. When I engage the
Drive forward it will cut fine and pretty smooth except for the vibration of the deck. It seems the deck is not rigid from side
To side and floats. This allows for a lot of vibration.
When the mower is moving and the engine is running at medium speed the motor sounds fine. However the cutting deck
“Surges” up and down in speed. There is no change in the drive speed,..just the deck. The change is constantly going up
And down in speed. I took it to the warranty service center and they took a week to check it out and replaced the deck belt
But could not find anything else wrong with it. If I have your correct email address I could send you a video of the problem
And hopefully you could help.
Bud
Hey Buddy, my email is d_werling@live.com
Initially thinking about it, I would remove the deck belt and make sure that your blade spindles move freely and make no strange noises. Also check all of your other idler pullies.
The next thing I would check would be the physical condition of the blades. Make sure they don’t seem excessively worn, or most importantly, bent. See if you can remove the blades and balance them. The blades are heavy and something out of balance could easily cause your vibration issue.
Lastly, how does the tension in the deck belt look? Does the belt have a tensioner that you can see while the deck is engaged? See if it looks like the tensioner is moving back and forth a lot. The fact that the deck hangs like it does actually does a lot to reduce vibration. It’s like the motor mounts in your car. If you didn’t have the rubber motor mounts, you would feel a lot more vibration.
I hope some part of this helps, still feel free to reach out if you have any other questions!
When you loosened and removed the bolt from the fan in back, the bolt didn't move. Mine just keeps turning. Is yours a hydrostatic like mine? How do I stop the stud from turning?
If you’re just doing a replacement like me, I realized later that I don’t think I needed to mess with that fan. I was able to just spin the pulley while feeding on the belt to get it past the belt guides.
@@asysz I can hold the fan still, then turn the bolt which turns the shaft with it
I put the belt on while the fan was still on.. Had a fiasco with the 2 pulleys then had to pull the long belt with a washer 4 hours I think I got it, have a whinning noise in neutral. But everything is working I think.
its impossible to lower the pully enough or even access the bolt without first removing the cutting deck
the sound is bad ,can't hear
What length belt is this I used 83 and the brake wont go up again
I used the 83” belt as well. Are you able to get it around all of the pullies?
haha i found a circlip under the tractor when repairing it and knew it belonged but where was the question.....couldn't find out where it went until.......while cutting the lawn i lost all movement......no reverse no forward......the linkage for the transmission fell out of its hole.....lol......all fixed
Glad you got it all fixed up Maureen!
@@asysz ......thanks.....im thinking the squealing i was hearing is the idler pulleys? those 2 pulleys that are offset to each other? the noise has calmed down but doesnt mean things are right i presume, eh?
A decent Video, good pointers, but the mark of a good mechanic is one who keeps cleans his work area as he goes. Dan just slaps the dirty cutting deck with all the old grass and crud laying there right in front of him to pulled up into the works when starts it. I realze the deck will get dirty again when its used, but really - a mite of time to blow it clean before he reassembles it.
Can't hear .
I don't have an impact wrench. There is no way to hold the crappy plastic fan in place without breaking it.
@MeetMeUndertheMoon-ui7jf I ended up doing the same. I don't think this company had maintenance in mind. Mowers today, just like everything else, are made to be disposable.
Good work buddy. Sound is iffy, but that’s to be expected. You can get a better set up when those sweet, sweet CZcams bucks start flowing in.
Mr.G hey man! Thanks for the feedback! I’m definitely looking forward to upgrading my gear... right now it’s an iPad on a 3D printed base on a tripod meant for a laser level lol
did your new belt smell like it was burning when you first tried it?.......maybe a break-in period and it will eventually go away?
Can you verify that the belt isn’t rubbing on anything that isn’t a pulley? Mine didn’t smell at all. Sounds like yours might be rubbing in something.
@@asysz ......yeah i installed it correctly but i might of pushed a tang back too close.....it runs good now and the smell is gone......good little tractor ive had mine since 2008 or 9......steering is getting sloppy and i had to replace a muffler gasket but other than this belt it runs great......thanks for your help
Can't hear sound
Wrench will not get the pulley/hydro bolt off, keeps spinning
Do you mean the pulley over the rear axle? You may not actually need to remove it. Start the belt around the pulley and then turn it with the wrench. It should be able to make it all the way around.
Yes, the rear axle belt. I actually did get it off today. I'll use the pulley to get the new one back on
that seems easier than my XP Horse with the fan......that bar above the fan is located almost directly over the 3/4 nut on my model......makes it so i cant use a deep socket or any kind of socket for that matter......if i use a short socket the threads that the nut is screwed onto are protruding too far to use a short socket......will have to figure out how to bend out the tangs i guess then bend them back and you must know there is no room in that compartment to do anything.......maybe ill just rip the belt out without bending tangs and then jam the new belt in under that fan with a blunt chisel.....a simple job aint no simple job where im at.....
Maureen, if I were to do this again, I would not remove that nut holding the fan on. I realized during reassembly that the metal guard that helps hold the belt on has a little flex to it. I would turn the fan with your hand while pulling the fan out of the guard. It seemed to work for me. The reverse should work to get the new belt to slip into the pulley. I hope this helps!
@@asysz .....yes i just realized that myself good point....i used a chisel to bend them oh so slightly......now i have to figure out how to bend them back after i get my belt on.....the belt is in the mail
If they are only bent slightly, you may be able to just leave them the way they are. Otherwise maybe you can use a long punch from inside the wheel well areas to hammer them back up?
Good luck! Let us know how it goes!
@@asysz ......thanks
Great video but Audio is not good.
Good video ---- BUT there is ALOT more to this than what you showed. You much have had all that apart before - I almost never got the blot out of the front pulley ---- ON VERY TIGHT --- used pull handle and regular socket - no need for deep well - they slip off too easy - reg. socket better - ++++ a brushing ? came off of top of pulley as it came all the way out. ++++ taking the fan nut off was hard too as it turned - had to hold it with c-clamp ------ not back on yet -- DOES GIVE A GOOD OVERVIEW OF THE JOB whatever someone in town wants to charge to do this IT IS CHEAP AND WELL WORTH PAYING SOMEONE ELSE TO DO LOL
I think I covered mostly everything, but sometimes a good electric or air powered impact gun can make the difference.
bugman971 use electric impact on engine drive pulley and the fan/rear drive pulley. And make sure you set an LOC the parking brake. That way you can actually install the belt and take it off very easily. It’s a 15 minute job with the correct tools
Can't hardly hear him.
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Why in the world would you have a riding lawn mower for a lawn that tiny 🤣😂
The video may have helped folks that have had a riding mower for a while. However, this is my first riding mower and the video was way over my head. Way too much left un explained and nothing real helpful for the "newbie" Good Luck for the rest of the guys.
Speak up Dan, can't hear you!
Troy bilts are terrible. Nothing but a headache