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I still have no clue why they kept the name Triangle Strategy when "Salt-Iron Wars" was probably the most repeated phrase in the entire game script.
Either because the name stands out more due to being so weird, or because it sounds better from the perspective of a japanese audience.
Well if they ever intend to make a new game, with a new story and characters, the name would have been too specific for the series to evolve
To have a vague name related to the concept or gameplay is not that bad, it allows some more freedom for next entries
It may be as simple as Triangle Strategy sounding better, atleast in my opinion.
One of the reasons why every Japanese dev team needs an English speaking consultant for global releases, so they can shut down their names for sounding stupid as hell.
I don't know what's up with Team Asano title's names... Triangle Strategy, Octopath Traveler, Bravely Default, Various Daylife...
Okaaay, so the first song _is_ the opening title theme for the game, but it only plays _after_ you beat the game. Before that, it played a more instrumental version of the same theme. And I have to say, I have never heard the second half of the song with all the crazy guitars and everything else, as it was the title screen music and I wanted to get on with the game, but I'm just awestruck that I have missed _that_ for so long on a game I've put more than 200 hours into. You find the weirdest places to learn new things. But anyway, the second theme is my personal favorite battle theme in the game (and I imagine that's the case for a lot of TS players). It's a special boss theme that only plays in what are probably the most emotionally climactic fights in the game, and you can kind of hear that with the more somber mood. It made the bosses feel that much more impactful, especially since the theme (with the piano intro) only starts playing once you attack the boss and the opposing sides give their big speeches about their convictions. Not to mention that it's dark out in the game when this plays, so that cool, drifting feeling you mentioned accompanies the rush of a grand raid in the biting winds of night. It's a slight departure from the game's more bombastic battle themes, but it really works for capturing the high stakes. Speaking of bombastic, the composer, Akira Senju, is probably most famous for his work on a certain anime called Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. You can definitely hear his very dramatic, heavy musical style in the show's soundtrack in the second half, and there are certain battle themes in this game that made me go "oh yeah, this screams Fullmetal Alchemist so freaking much."
Triangle Strategy's story really hit me in a way not many games do. You basically control a small somewhat independent territory that is caught in the middle of several warring powers, and the heroes are frequently forced to choose between making the moral choices and choices that allow their territory to survive. It's a central mechanic of the game aside from the tactical fights, as everyone votes on a course of action and you actually have to convince your allies to support your decision through pragmatic/ethical arguments. And even after you've committed to a decision and the consequences play out, you're still left with lingering doubts on whether you made a good choice several chapters later. It's definitely a game that puts your values to the test, which is why it left such a profound impression on me, even years later.
Good read.
Plus, Octopath PFP for culture points.
My love of Octopath, Final Fantasy Tactics, and Fire Emblem guaranteed me loving this game. The music is such a treat! Thank you so much for the reaction. You're right! Lots of people wouldn't have heard this music if not for your videos. So thank you again!
Triangle Strategy is the best turn based strategy game i've played in YEARS, the last one i thoroughly enjoyed in all aspects was Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn, nothing has come close since then. Triangle Strategy was such a welcome title to me for that reason. everything about it was excellent and after completing the story and getting the new main theme, even after all those hours it still managed to blow me away again, such a fantastic song.
Triangle Strategy, Octopath, Bravely Default...
These Square Enix gems hold a large part in my heart.
If you have time, I urge you play it! I wish more people knew more about this game, truly.
Such an amazing hidden gem from Square. Same artstyle as Octopath, from essentially half the team behind Octopath, recreating a tactical RPG in the style of Final Fantasy Tactics and Tactics Ogre
The composer was really well known for his work on the anime Fullmetal Alchemist and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood (FMA being a manga published by... Square Enix I think?)
Also, great choice of intro music, Colony 9 gets in your mind and never leaves 😎
Edit : Funny enough, you mentioned the similarities with Bravely Default artstyle, the character designer for this game, Naoki Ikushima, worked on both Bravely and Octopath series (these three are all from Team Asano, a dev team from SQEX)
What makes Song of Triangle Strategy so cool is that it is an arrangement of the main theme, not the actual main theme. The actual theme is purely orchestral, in a style akin to the other track in this video. It's actually a really nice track and I wish Jesse had heard it before this one for the full reaction.
You go through the entire game hearing the main theme and it's only after the true/secret ending that you get to hear this amazing vocal/rock remix of it. I was watching the credits mouth agape as this was playing. Song of Triangle Strategy then replaces the regular main theme in the title screen. Best reward ever for getting a true ending.
Bro no way, so glad people are acknowledging this game and how good it is.
''Song of Triangle Strategy'' was used as promo music for the game, a single you could buy on most platforms. In the game, it replaces the main title theme, ''Our Path'', when you complete all the game's endings. The main title theme is already great, but having an anime opening-esque song for being dedicated to the game is an amazing reward.
Combat Destiny is one of the best songs on the OST and the only song to feature electric guitars as instruments. It is used for, not neccessarily climax moments for the story but rather for some of the main characters's climax moments. I always remember these 2 pieces of dialogue because they play right as the music starts or it's already going
''Frederica... Your existence sullies the Aesfrosti bloodline! But it will be pure again--as soon as I have killed you!''
''Say what you will. I am proud of the blood that runs through my veins! I have found people who love me for who I am. No longer will I let you or anyone else make me afraid!''
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''I struck you down with my own hand... So tell me, who are you, behind that mask?''
''I am Aesfrost's bane. My mask stays on until the last handful of dirt falls on your grave.
Idk if you take request on CZcams, but I'd love if you'd check out more Triangle Strategy music. I would like ''Frederica's Path/Theme'' and ''Until That Day - Frederica's Battle'', they go together. If you can't find the OST on youtube, there's a playlist on Soundcloud that has all the songs individually.
how the hell did i miss this??? been waiting for you to react to this for months!
Now for the Benedict battle theme In triangle strategy.
Brother, don't forget Frederica's aswell, "Until That Day".
It was hearing the Song of Triangle Strategy in a trailer for it that made me buy the game. Those guitar solos in the second half give me life. 🥰🤩🤘
Without spoiling anything, but hearing "Combat - Destiny" while playing this game on Hard mode was one of my most intense gaming experiences ever. Everything about that particular battle was so well done and winning was so satisfying.
Great game, it's my favorite from Team Asano (the team behind Bravely Default, both Octopath Traveler games and Triangle Strategy), but I'm a bit biased since I love Strategy RPGs (Final Fantasy Tactics is my favorite game ever).
"Carrying us into the promised land"... Well, Destiny plays in one of the endings of the game when (beware, spoilers) the main character stays behind to fight the evil guy and sacrifices himself to buy time to his companions so that they can flee and guide a bunch of people to the continent of their legends. The cool thing about the song it's that you can tell in that opening section that the main character is saying "goodbye", a goodbye filled with sadness but also hope for the future.
Super underrated game with an incredible OST
I fell in love for that game, I think it's my number 1 for now. Glad you made a video for that gem ♥
Oh man, when this song (of Triangle Strategy) hit in-game it hit hard because it's right after you finish your first playthrough and what was normally a instrumental version of the song playing in the title screen, suddenly gets changed along with the title screen backdrop.
You instantly notices the change in music because of the unusually deep intro to the song and your attention is immediately captivated while you fixate on the slow scrolling new title screen, then the vocals come in and it's the best surprise/reward ever. (+ Triangle = 3 singers?! Genius)
They certainly saved the best for last.
Triangle Strategy indeed had a lot of the same people working on it as Octopath Traveler, with one of the bigger differences being the composer. Akira Senju is known more for anime and movie OSTs, probably best known for Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.
NO WAY SOMEBODY REQUESTED TRIANGLE STRATEGY??! I love this game so much and I'm so depressed that nobody else seemed to play it. The name might have confused people or put them off it? Idk. It's an incredible game, if you liked Final Fantasy Tactics or Fire Emblem I highly recommend it
The name is really terrible hahahhah
I was really hoping because the demo said it was only a working title that they would change it lol but alas
I think it was the title that put people off on it. Unfortunately in the same vein as judging a book by its cover, or in the sense of video games, judging a game by it's box art (looking at you Mega Man II). I loved this game after downloading the demo thereafter.
I played through Triangle Strategy. It just didn't leave a good impression on me. I'm actually surprised seeing so much praise for it here since up until now I've never heard from anyone with a particularly high opinion of the game.
@@wesnohathas1993 Final Fantasy Tactics has been one of my favourite RPG games since childhood and nothing has really satisfied the itch to play another game in that vein until Triangle Strategy. The gameplay, the political intrigue focused story, the music, it hit all the right notes for me. It's not perfect, I definitely have critiques (I'm a voice actor and I found the performances to be a mixed bag, some characters were fantastic and others fell flat which speaks to me of a bad director, also while I liked the idea of branching story trees choices obviously didn't matter as much as it claimed to) but ultimately I got exactly what I was looking for and then some!
I will say triangle strategy is one of the hardest games I've ever played, at least on hard difficulty. But its such a satisfying experience to figure out how to beat the entirely unfair boss units on each map.
TS is the first game I've actually ruined for myself by playing on Hard. That's how unfair it is.
Its funny ive played this game yet haven't actually heard either of these songs in game, didn't even know song of triangle strategy played in game. Definitely upped my motivation to play the other routes in the story
I hear colony 9 on the background such a vibe
I love this game so much and this is probably one of the best battle themes I have heard in a very long time. So happy to see this reviewed!
This just might be my favourite Switch game, everything really clicked for me. The track that stood out to me the most was Unwavering Spear/Roland’s Battle, hearing it on Benedict’s route was heartbreaking.
edit: if you’re interested in the game at all, it would be a fun one to watch you play, since player choice is a huge deal in the plot
Love this game even tho it's a bit cheesy lol also i love that the opening song has three great songstresses to reflect the three path theme of the game
Hey jesse i just saw the video where you react to ducktales on nes, i'd love you to react to one of my fav soundtrack of nes which is "world cup vs battle theme". The song is very special for a soccer game, especially when you remove the referee and you listen to this song while kicking other player's butts x].
Finished the game last month, it was an extraordinary journey, I’ve never played a game that much in one time, finished it 3 times, a true gem
Triange Strategy was my first experience with this type of game. I was arrogant enough to think I could handle hard mode as easily as hard mode of other games and struggled quite a bit. It was a very fun challenge; definitely took me longer than 34 hours.
Music is great and the art style is beautiful. I enjoyed my time with it greatly.
Also i'd really like you to listen to a song from my fav ps1 game :
Koudelka - waterfall (this is the battle theme of this survival horror rpg game and you wouldn't guess it while listening to the track) very special song for me so it'd make me very happy.
I can recommend A Witch's Wail from the Paper Lily OST, it's a really nice song, takes some elements of flamenco for it's rythm and instruments but with some very nice liberties
A Tactics game is basically like any regular RPG, but with an added movement and positioning strategy added to the combat system. For example, you have team mates and enemies who can either focus on long ranged attacks or close ranges attacks, or are weak against either of them. You make use of the environment to play into your team's strength and off-set their weaknesses, while creating a team that has an advantageous match-up against the enemy you are facing. As you can guess, the combat in Tactics games is very layered and strategic.
Because of this type of type of gameplay where you require a large amount of characters, your team usually consists of expendable NPC's who usually don't have much story to them, and the story instead focuses on the party leaders. Due to the nature of the gameplay, the battles can be quite extensive and take up quite a while to finish compared to your regular RPG.
Final Fantasy Tactics popularized this sub-genre of the RPG genre, and gave the Tactics sub-genre its name, though Nintendo's Fire Emblem is probably the biggest Tactics RPG franchise right now.
Yeah, I would absolutely recommend this game. The biggest criticism this game gets is that it's about 80 % story and 20 % gameplay, treading very closely to a Visual Novel in that way. If you are not bothered by that, I can not recommend this game enough. The worldbuilding is intricate, the characters complex, the themes fascinating and all of it immerses you so well with the choices you make. The music is also amazing, as you can tell.
I would also be down for Fire Emblem Three Houses, which is of the same Strategy RPG genre, but I do remember how you weren't particularly impressed by what you heard from that game. All I can say is that Three Houses is my favorite game of all time, and is yet another masterpiece.
So happy to see TS on yoyr channel. I hope you do Combat-Mines and Unwavering Spear sometime!
One last comment, triangle strategy has an absolutely gripping story if you're looking for something different from the typical rpg band of heroes. Its a messy web of politics where you can only really trust your closest allies, and yet, you'll have to make uneasy alliances and hard decisions all along the way, hoping to find a way out of all the turmoil
Triangle Strategy is a top 10 game for me, I fell in love the moment I hit play. It’s both a love letter to strategy RPGs while also containing one of the most compelling political drama in any video game I’ve ever played, I remember playing Fire Emblem: Three Houses sometime after and the entire time I was just thinking about how much of an improvement on the genre Triangle Strategy is in comparison (which granted, Triangle Strategy is pretty much just Square-does-Fire-Emblem but I still far prefer it over Fire Emblem). Mileage will definitely vary though as it’s a very text-heavy game, I read a lot of visual novels so I didn’t mind one bit but I know there’s plenty of players out there that are allergic to text in games so Triangle Strategy is probably not for them.
The only instance I can remember right now where I hated the games naming convention so much, that I refused to play it on release, despite really liking the demo.
Just because it's a Square Tactics game, they shouldn't have called it Triangle Strategy^^'
That said, in all other metrics than naming it's a fantastic gem of a game. Great OST, beautiful HD-2D artstyle, interesting choices and dilemmas and tight gameplay.
If you like your political drama in a relatively grounded setting, with big choices to make that determine the outcome of the story and you like tactics gameplay, check it out.
It's on the more difficult side of games, but there are difficulty settings to breeze through too :D
Out of Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler and Triangle Strategy, I would always choose Octopath, because for my taste, out of the 3, it has the best OSTs, gameplay, designs, characters and it brought HD-2D to the scene^-^
If interested, my recommandation would be to start with Octopath 2 :)
Square is a company that almost only does RPGs and was built on the success of the Final Fantasy franchise for which the music is one of the big selling point and continued to set the trend and standard of the JRPG culture. They fathered in some of the best composers, in my opinion, like Nobuo Uematsu, Yoko Shinomura, Yasunori Mitsuda, Yasunori Nishiki, etc. When you play a square game, it is normally expected to have good music at least for those who have been playing their games since the 90s when Square was in its prime.
Personally, having played a lot of tactical RPGs and with Square's background in the genre, I was expecting more from this game which felt pretty basic and short which is why the reviews are pretty mid.
Tactical RPGs are RPGs where the battles are done on stages like a castle/forest/mountain/Road/etc with different obstacles/elevations and the floor is divided in a grid, like a chess board, and instead of chess pieces you have characters with different abilities/movement/attacks and you and the enemies take turns to act until you defeat the enemies or complete the objectives. The fights are normally longer and you have to use strategy and be tactical which is why the tracks for these kinda games are normally made for longer loops and normally less intense than the usual JRPGs battle themes.
Hell... It's 'bout damn time. I've been looking forward to this reaction for SO LONG! The two years were worth it though. 😂😊
Are you à platinum member ?
I'd love to recommend anything, it would be remakes of the whole Chrono Trigger OST by the channel Time Rock Orchestra
Love the game and the soundtrack
If you liked combat - destiny, I really think you should listen to Benedict's battle from this game!
Oh, funny that you say that the art, font, etc. reminds you of Bravely Default! Well, they are all games from Team Asano!
Triangle Strategy is for me the best game on the Switch after the Xenoblade games. You really should play it.
LETS
FUCKING GO
I played the demo of Triangle Strategy and enjoyed it. Reminded me of Final Fantasy Tactics Advance a little bit (but heavier). However, I didn't buy it because I knew I wouldn't have the time to invest. I recall the battles taking a while with lots of story in between. I think I would have enjoyed it though. I didn't get a good listen to the music from the demo. This was cool!
From my experience, it's an agonizingly slow-paced game. Everything from the cutscenes, to the voting segments, to the battles themselves take ages. Especially on Hard where every chapter is an unrelenting war of attrition with the odds stacked against you from every angle and one false move can doom you to start over from the beginning.
Jesse, since you mentioned games you should check out now that you own a Switch, I highly encourage you to play Fire Emblem: Three Houses, which came out before this game, so you can see where the inspiration comes from.
The gameplay style is like Chess but an epic RPG. Imagine Chess but with RNG stats and health points and level up your pawns into murder weapons of destruction.
And everyone has tragic backstories.
If you have to play one of em. Do pick Octopath Traveler 2
Strategy RPGs are games where, you have a grid-like system (think chess board) and move your characters depending on their turn to attack the enemy. Depending on the game, you either have your turns determined by character speed, each team taking a turn, or moving in real time in response to actions.
Triangle Strategy's review scores are because, it is a good turn-based strategy game, but the more you play it the more shallow the mechanics/story get, so a lot of people in the Strategy RPG community of video games don't have fond feelings for it. It's a game that, really feels like it should be a lot better, so its perceived worse. Music's great because Square though.
Right now, the real gold stars for Strategy RPGs are Final Fantasy Tactics, Tactic Ogre, and Unicorn Overlord, with Fire Emblem being a long-running series of games where they're popular but the community's divided on why they like it, as there are parts that some people in the community love while others hate it.
This was a pretty fun game to play through. Also fairly flawed though. Some battles were kinda poorly balanced and could quickly turn into very tedious and long battles. The writing simply wasn't good enough. Could've used more complexity, but it remained rather shallow because they wanted to offer multiple paths. I think it would've been better if they had just removed that choosing part altogether so they could've gone much crazier in terms of story.
Overal I did enjoy it, but I did feel it was a little lacking in a few aspects and it really dragged towards the end for me.
Out of all of that, if there's one thing I truly can't forgive, it's the lackluster soundtrack. The songs featured in this video are really good, but sadly they are the exception rather than the norm and it has very little else noteworthy to offer.
"Triangle Strategy" is the latest in a series of games put out by Square Enix where they clearly just used their internal name for the project as the official title because they couldn't come up with anything that sounded better.
I mean, the music is great and all, and I hear the game is fine, but they seriously need to find someone better at naming the actual games.
Amazing game for one of the worst game naming in history. Seriously....TRIANGLE STRATEGY. It sounded so cool they were like " TRAYANGURU SUTURATETJIII......ooooooo kaaaa ko yyyiiiiii namaaaee desuu !!!!!!"
I love team Asano but Square Enix should really forbid them the naming of their games: octopath traveler, bravely default and the best one.................VARIOUS daylife ....😅
Oh man, I played Various Daylife to 100% completion, and I can't stress enough that I do *not* recommend it.