The OA | Season 2 | Theories!! OA's Brother?
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- The OA | Season 2 | Theories!! OA's Brother?
Welcome to another theories video this one I mention two areas.
Who is OA's brother in other dimensions? Rahim and Karims connection? And summaries some theories around the final dimension. I hope you enjoy.
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Khatun speaks Arabic, Karim and Rahim are both Arabic names. it makes total sense that they're both the brother sent to protect the OA.
exactly...thats why the names are similar its cuz khatun sent both
So true
Karim means generous and Rahim means merciful... I thought that's interesting too
its not arabic..its a griphin language...the fucking koran tells or speaks about otro dimensions...zlatan ibrahim is also a jumper
Steve could maybe be the brother as well. He has been defending her since the start.
I don't think so, I think he has a connection to Homer though
No, because Steve is one of the boys in Hunter's pool. I mean, he coexists with Karim (the 'brother') in the second dimension.
I think it's Steve too. Steve never meets Happ yet somehow know s exactly who he is.
@@HeckmanBrad77 I mean OA has told the group all about hat not to mention hap did kill his alternate version I imagine that leaves an impression
Steve is her son
Britt and Zal really wrote up an excellent script!! This is a TRUE show!!! There is so much complexity!! IFLI!!!
Omar Quintanilla it’s also a new idea, as well as very thought provoking and seems to resonate within ur own spirit
When Steve ran with the ambulance and jumped in, it was literally the best tv moment in history, my mouth was open for minutes after the ending haha
Karim and Rahim are both Aranic names. Karim means Generous while Rahim means Merciful
Kathun speaks Arabic (!!!!) and she's the one who sent the brother
It all ties back to the Old Testament (Judaism/Christianity/Islam) lore of angels, or more specifically archangels. There's some pagan ties as well.
There seems to be a "Life Tree" which branches out into different universes, and there are particular souls/consciousness that are special and are metaphysical, and they are designed to help the tree like guardians. It's possible there are the usual corner-stones/4 archangels, or perhaps there are Seven Archangels.
OA seems to be the first, and potentially the highest angel.
Happ is OA's opposite, and would probably constitute the position of the devil/lucifer/azrael.
The next likely candidates are Steven, Karim, Rahim, Homer, and Buck.
I think Karim is her brother he could be the baby that her parents didn't adopt.
Agree
I think brother means protector and has bugger all to do with genetics or adoption. It's a role.
Yes I think it was Rahim in the first dimension, Karim in the second. Both sent by Khatun. We'll find out about the third next season.
@sawako lucia both names relate to allah as well - one means generous, one noble. It's all linked.
No because in part 2 they DID adopt the baby boy in Missouri so it doesnt make sense for it to be Karim. He would be in Missouri not San fransisco
kitty buckley so he was white and then got a really bad sun burnt ?
This show is insane. Best since Twin Peaks the return honestly
Energy Practice halfway through season 1...I thought the exact same thing. Season 2 is straight up TP The Return.
Me too!!! That scene of the well inside the house reminded me of the tea kettle scene in Twin Peaks
When you talk about the final episode after the OA falls, I think you forgot a key piece about Hap... Hap KNEW this dimension and purposely planned their jump there using the flower petals. He knew of the dimension because it was Scott's NDE... Scott the guy with dreads who was locked up with the OA underground by Hap. Scott TOLD Hap that in his NDE, it was weird because Hap was a British guy who was happily married to the OA, whose name was Brit. Hap planned that jump and knew that he was Brit's husband because of that info from torturing Scott (it was the night Scott died and was resurrected by the OA and Homer doing the movements all night for the first time).
Notice how there are some similar character trait overlap between the two tribes among the 4 people that were trapped with the OA and the boys / BBA . Aside from the fact that Buck and Rachel have some sort of connection with Buck being able to see Rachel in the mirror in season 2, they both have this ability to sing and then both get stuck in some other realm/dimension as Rachel is somewhere in the inbetween and Buck/ Michelle is missing in another dimension. Notice both characters aren't exactly leaders but they both never really have doubts or resist OA and her teachings. Scott and BBA are obviously connected since BBA is apparently who gave Scott the 3rd movement as revealed when Dr. Roberts is recording his response for Hap. But also notice how both BBA and Scott have this self doubt and are almost reluctant to sacrifice for the greater good without multiple parties convincing them to do so (for example convincing Scott to inhale the gas and convincing BBA to travel to another dimension). Renata might be similar to French, as they both get their own sex scenes (okay that's not that important), but they both seem to be a bit more selfish with French retracting his investment in this whole thing afraid he'll lose focus of his scholarship, exploring his sexuality, and skeptical after finding those books while Renata is retracted in season 2 as she's in denial of everything that happened in the 1st dimension but in the end both French and Renata come in clutch with French unintentionally calling Rahim revealing to the group he's been sent to protect OA and giving the confirmation to the group that this is all real and Renata acknowledging that her memories are real and freeing Homer from the elevator. Finally, Steve's character is very similar to Homer, other than the fact that Steve sees Homer in the mirror, they're both leaders in being the first to initiate the movements and they're always the first to run to OA's aid. My guess is similar to the trees saying that they are all interconnected what if by OA teaching these movements to the first 4 captives / Hap and then to the boys/BBA that it established this invisible connection linking each individual to the person responsible for each numbered movement?
Rewatching Part One and I was just thinking the same thing. Buck and Rachel have to be connected in some way and that is why she reaches out to him. This also makes me wonder about the time when French saw Homer in the mirror. Remember that?
I believe K’atun did make it in season 2. I think she is the traveler that Hap met and approached OA.
I think she incarnated into a human body to guide/help the OA when things started going off path.
That's what I was thinking, maybe in the end this will actually all help the OA.
Finally! I've been wondering why nobody has been talking about or asking about Khatun!
I think you hit the nail on the head with Karim and Rahim. Both very similar. And we don't know much of Rahims personal back story.
Katun sent Karim and the FBI agent from Part 1
exactly !
That's where I'm at. Khatun is 'she' and Karim and Rahim are the brothers so far. Old Night said whether she survives or not (after her 37 second nde) will be up to 'him' (her brother) - then Karim brings her back with cpr.
Brother isn't a literal brother, a sibling, he's a protector.
I don't think we've got instances of consciousnesses jumping into other people's bodies.
Ok, so what if, In the end when they break the 4th wall, they are in the “4th dimension” the 4th dimension is considered a place where we could see the end of time and beginning of time all at once. So they would now be in a place where they can see the “4th dimension” or a “God’s eye view” of their particular reality. Just something else to think about
This was the most insightful video so far on season 2. Thank you! I missed all of that.
I thought Hap claimed that he was the husband so that the EMT would let him in the ambulance - typically only immediate family are allowed. All through season 2 he was saying things (and indirectly through Homer) to manipulate the police and others who had the power to detain. "She is a danger to herself and others", etc. So, he uses his power as a doctor to get others to do what he wants.
I just thought HAP said that she was his wife to get into the Ambulance, so they stayed together
me too!
Brandon Cook same. That was my instant thought
Brandon Cook I think that since he saw a glimpse of this other reality he knew already they were married and it’s why he chose it. He said it because he know the context of that reality
Awesome theories man! You're so underrated
Agree with how you interpreted the brother or protector; spot on my man
Mesh Flicks I appreciate your thoughts and theories. This really helped me understand both seasons on The OA. I needed this.
Oh no. I didn't notice Netflix in the NDE. Please don't turn this show into Bandersnatch.
"he has a British accent because he is English" is all I took away from this rofl xD
Enjoy your videos keep up the good work
Hey Mesh!! Thank you for the Videos!!! they're great!!
About the Seven Sleppers and their new "faith".. that's ecxactly the same world The OA uses when she confronts HAP at the poolroom.. after leaving Steve's Body, she said "but we have faith"!! ;)
and there is another thing that blows my mind right now!! i just noticed.. so.. if you look at the Symbol from the Company from Pierre, Curi.. it seams to be the face of someone making the first move of the first movements.. AND i recognise it, the same Symbol from the 4. Picture of the seven sleepers of your Video here, at 5:58!!!!
how can it be that you choose ecxactly a pic with the same Symbol???
i just noticed it.. so.. sorry.. i'm Kinda freaking out!! XD XD XD XD
hey mesh! jason and brit ARE a couple... scott's nde dream confirms it AND rosalía's song at the end of it "DE AQUÍ NO SALES" is about an abusive marriage, (her whole album is)
kouka woah mind blown alert!
What was scotts nde?
@@mehrsakhalooghi Scott had an nde that Homer as Dr. Roberts recorded him sharing that he saw the OA and she was her but not her at the same time (actress Brit acting as the OA). They had British accents and seemed to be on a set and he saw her kiss Hap, indicating that they are very likely an actual couple in this new dimension.
Thanks a lot for refreshing my memory, the wait for season 2 was so long and truly it has been a while since i watched the OA part 1.
P.s i really ship OA and karim i hope the brother thing don’t mess up their chemistry! |(￣3￣)|
kouka I agree, Homer is her brother, Hap is her soul mate
I think also when they jumped at the end, that HAP was able to incorporate his other selves (for whatever reason) and that is why he says "Prairie" but then starts using his British accent. Of course, he could just be lying because he knows in Scott's NDE he had a British accent, but that is just my theory. It will be interesting to see next season if HAP knows who he is and who he was before, but the OA has no memory of other lives.
Remember HAP said his name is Jason Issacs so he has to know his past in that dimesnsion
I think Hap learnt toooo much from that woman traveller and hes learnt very bloody quickly mind, to share the body. Although i wonder what Jason (having been playing Hap) will think of his multidimensional behaviour. Is it possible for Jason to be more of a battle for Hap this time around than the OA? Split personas can do tremendous harm to eachother.
@@staceyogier6154 I believe it is HAP. He has not only seen this other dimension from eating "Scott's " petals but he also knew that The OA was his wife, he considers her his property. With dimension changing, although we have only seen it once in full, brings on confusion in the first few moments, so for him running to her when she when she falls and calling her Prairie is not something Jason Isaacs would have done. HAP has not learned about how to integrate, He saw OA fully integrated but unless I missed something he did not learn how to do so, nor do I believe he will, he wants to be in full control and does not want to share his body, another. Scott said it was "weird how they (The OA seemed in love with HAP)"If this is true love between Jason Isaacs and her, Then I get your point about Jason Isaacs possibly being a formidable opponent against HAP, but The OA has also been that she will forget the past and needs her tribe. I think they all jumped except maybe Steve's girlfriend, or maybe her tribe, is not only the BBA, Steve, ( the only ones that may have jumped), possibly Homer, who may think he is just an actor, but also her "brother" who is present in every universe. She will probably think Homer, Steve and the BBA have started to believe that these "actors" have because delusional. I would love to see Buck, But it looks as though Buck may stay in Dimension 2. Thanks for putting out Theories and I welcome more from all of you, as this one is just one of mine, they are all good.
@@drana8937 I think you had a lot of good ideas here, and I mostly agree.
*Hap is only Hap* He doesn't know about the integration, nor would I think his character would want to do that. He's too self centered and always *NEEDS* to be in control. Not only that, but the "Guide" told Hap some information and she told OA some information, very *specifically* giving them *different* bits. For Hap's egotistical mind, she gave him the tools to jump(this also helps OA because she may want/need to jump and she has to apparently have her "Shadow" stay with her, so him having this tool is good), but she specifically gave OA the knowledge of merging with her other selves. Hap not knowing all of this, or maybe not wanting to be anyone other than himself, will keep him from figuring out how to use these tools in a more powerful/meaningful way. Also, and I don't have the source on this so just go with me, apparently Jason Isaacs(the actor) specifically said he was trying to do an "American attempting a British accent", if he really merged... it would just be a natural, or his natural, British accent.(the same way OA can perfectly replicate Nina now, because they are one.)
*Remember what Hap was trying to do* all along, find a way to control OA and latch on to this new tool/power. By creating the "map" in the previous Dimension, and using Scott's NDE as a lead, he found the perfect Dimension in which he could hopefully control OA and had built in tools to make her doubt any other life. These tools are, the fact that she's an actor that has been through scenes of things that have happened in her real life, which will keep her from accurately separating fact from fiction, and her being married to Hap, which Hap hopes will keep her from doubting or being scared of him. Little did he know though... Karim threw him a wrench, the Bird. Now she could, given the right influences, sort out fact from fiction without her love for Jason Isaacs getting in her way.
*As far as Buck* goes, I think you made an assumption there. I think Michele returned to Dimension 2, Buck is still in Dimension 1, and Bucks Actor stays in Dimension 3. All Karim was ever trying to do, was to get Michelle back and I think he succeeded in that, while the OA brother inside him helped OA with the pigeon. I don't think this actually says anything about Bucks whereabouts per se, only Michelle's. That being said, who's to know if Buck traveled to Dimension 3, inside of Actor Buck, while Michelle stays in Dimension 2?
(On that same note, I question whether Nina jumped, or Dr. Roberts... and so on. This season tried to fill in some of the blanks on using the tools and seemingly will and intent are huge factors, if Homer wanted to jump, but Dr. Roberts didn't... who'd jump? If OA jumped without Nina, would some of Nina's medium abilities rub off?)
I think the sense of *will* and *intent* is very important in this series and we've only scratched the surface, in both using the tools to travel and also who's in control when travel has taken place. I think if the host is open and willing, and the traveler is as well, merger can take place automatically. Although, if a conflict emerges, the more willful spirit will take control. Lets look at some examples:
1) *OA* & *Nina* - OA jumped with absolute intent and pointed her compass at Homer, she landed in Nina who was on a journey of "enlightenment" after reading Dr. Percy's book, therefore she was willing. With a willing host, OA took over and there was no battle for power.
2) *Homer* & *Dr. Roberts* - Homer jumped, but only reluctantly so. He couldn't be reunited with OA if he was dead, so knowing this he was more of a passive and reluctant traveler. When he arrived in Dr. Roberts body, his will was too low to take over, and Dr. Roberts & Homer weren't in a compatible mindset to merge. This mixed with the fact that the host was an up and coming Doctor who was striving to establish himself in his profession, Homer was "boxed away" and Dr. Roberts persisted until his mind was in a more open place to accept some of the things he's been hearing.
3) *Renata#1* & *Renata#2* (I forget her second identity differences) - I think Renata#1 contained the will to jump, and Renata#2 was open to accept a different reality(possibly from her therapy). Although we don't get a lot of evidence of Renata#2's willingness state, I think we do get enough to assume they've merged. During Renata#2's therapy we figure out Dr. Percy has successfully gotten her to accept that she has 2 realities, and Renata#1's reality is a fabrication, but we can tell she's still struggling with this idea. The big part here though is when OA tries to push her and ask if she remembers Renata#1's past, we get a surprising answer. She says she can remember both Renata#1 and Renata#2's histories, and the doctors are basically trying to get her to believe that Renata#1's is false. Being able to know both so vividly that she has to struggle holding on to one is real makes it real that she's actually merged. We find out no one else has this type of recall, unless they are merged.
Karim and Rahim both are Muslim names. These names are used for GOD to show that he is merciful. The story of seven sleeper is also in Quran. Further the word 'Khatoon' is used for women in general but also as sign of respect.
Very cool! This is important in the theory of same soul, different vessel. The soul would choose a vessel that shared the same faith.
@@fullofstars977That is a very good point. Faith does play a key role in everybody's life so it make sens that soul is attracted the vessel with same faith.
Not "Muslim", Arabic.
The name Khatun is an Arabic title for a queen or an empress.
Daor Jemas
Never said 'khatun' is a muslim name. I only mention ed that about other two names.
The word Khatun can also be used as 'miss' or 'madam' . It shows respect when you speak to or mention a woman's name in a conversation.
@@tauseeftariq But you said the other two (Karim and Rahim) are Muslim names. There is no such thing as a Muslim name; they are Arabic names.
i hope haps just confused. i really want scott to have tricked him
I haven't seen anyone take note that the puzzle on the floor in the house makes up the same image as a closeup up the bullet hole through the glass at the end of season 1. Someone did mention it looks like the roots of a tree, but it is in fact an exact replica of the glass that cracked from the bullet hole through it at the end of season 1.
I really thought this about the FBI agent and Karim also!
Remember BBA was accused to lead a sect... Reminds me of the 7 sleepers theory..
Hap said he was her husband because Scott mentioned that in his NDE he saw OA kissing Hap, or married (something like that) and that she didn't remembered who she was, and that was the dimension Hap was thinking about when the robots made the moves. It is our dimension, the fact that the actor is not married with Brit in real life doesn't matter, they can't make that kind of perfection. In the serie, the actor who plays Hap is married with Brit (OA). That's it.
The best thing about Scott seeing that, he could have seen that happening in the future similar to Homer's NDE.
The thing is though... If it was Hap just pretending they married... You would think the billions of cast on set with them would be like... Wait what no you aren't...
But maybe that is part of it. Maybe he isn't really married to her and the Meta thing is, this is our dimension.. And Hap is controlling Jason's Isaac's life... And he is still married to his actual wife..
But I like the idea that I'm that dimension they are actually married and hap has fully merged with Jason Isaacs version
Yeah I think Hap is just saying it because Scott said it, and he wants to finally work with the OA instead of against her. And it looks like people lose their memory in the dimension of their NDE. We saw Homer lose his memory when they jumped into his NDE, and now this is Scott/OA’s NDE, and Old Night Octopops already told us she won’t remember herself. So it’s the perfect opportunity for Hap, except that Steve is there
@@Kewlausgirl I don't think HAP has fully merged with Isaacs. He's never merged before, he wants control. He was in control, calling her Prairie, at first, then suddenly switched in an unconvincing way into a British accent. That's impressive since he is British. It's not her loving (or abusive) husband she has there, it's nasty old HAP. Next season will be damn interesting that's for sure.
I thought it was obvious that her brother is Steve?
i think it's obviously Rahim, the former FBI agent, who is OA's brother in season 1 since he says to BBA, Angie, Buck and Alfonso in season 2 that he is meant to help her.
Lee Ara Karim literally saved her after Old Night mentioned the brother. so yeah he definitely is. they are both associated with FBI and if you watch syzygy again, you’ll see that OA treated them both coldly initially and somehow got closer. i wonder if there’s going to be another police officer in season 3. or maybe steve it is lol
Can't be Steven, since he is dead in the pool
Sandra Beardmore OH SHIT
@@carlosamgalaxy hmm technically he was still helping from the other dimension. So dead Steve doesn't count.
But Rahim seemed more like a messenger like the other lady (sorry forget her name) where she gives both Hap and OA the information OA needed.
I don't think it's Karim. The old one said that her brother follows her into every dimension. Unless Karim is like Homer inside Dr Robertson, which I doubt it because even seeing the next dimension didn't wake up his other self....
But one thing the octopus says to OA is that her brother follows her into every dimension. When it first said that I panicked and thought it meant Homer. Lol
But I think it's more likely Steve or Rahim. The only thing is Rahim and Steve both helped from one dimension to assist OA. And Steve literally follows her.
But the other thing we need to know. Is it a brother by birth or brother by connection/bond?
It could be Steve if it's her actual brother. Maybe her father had another child and sent the baby to the orphanage with her. There was that baby at the orphanage... Or maybe they meant that baby is connected to her like a brother... It seems to live the life she had in her original world. And who knows maybe Steve was adopted and they didn't tell him.
But I dunno if they actually mean literal brother or not.
Su yeah those are my thoughts xD
wow! amazing analysis. i wouldn't have been able to make the connection b/w rahim and karim myself
Great ideas!
Buck was doing the moves in the mirror which opened a portal
when did Buck do that? in season one?
@@liisaambur8330 Season one Episode 6 called forking paths.. the scene opens with Buck doing the moves in her mirror
That explains a lot
Really good point Shalonna Jones!
Shalonna Jones But Buck also is the only one who still leaves her door open which could explain it too
why are Steves blooms red roses like and the others are lotus flowers or lilies?
Great theory!
What’s with the horrible wig OA has at the end?
Mesh, thank you for your review. That effort of searching some relevance to the show, The Seven Sleepers. I think the show also got an idea from it. Now most of you have watched this already, I just finished it today. Let me put a date so i can visit this in the future. May 12, 2020 Tuesday. 9:26PM PST.
Old night says that whether she survives the 37 second NDE depends on her brother... and right after the NDE Karim is the one to bring her back to life using mouth to mouth. Meaning that he is her brother since he is the one who brought her back to life
Guys... Hap could see glimpses into other dimensions with the flowers. Therefore he chose that dimension specifically because he knew that it would be one where OA and him were together. He said he was her husband because he’d seen that scenario
also when scott explains his nde and says that the OA and Hap kissed like they were a couple, there's a small smile on Hap's face and then he says he has to test a theory. he knew which dimension he wanted to go to.
I also had that theory that rahim was the brother! I hope we see more if him in the seasons to follow!
The pigeon was sent on purpose to help OA bc in the new dimension they’re traveling to, her and hap are married. Now that she hit her head she won’t remember hap and the good moments they had together in the new dimension.
Cobra Fish but i think she was actually travelling to another dimension, not this one... bur yes the dove is suspicious
Besserradikal anders yea a white dove symbolizes something good right? Has to be a blessing in disguise
@@jasminb7317 suspicious but not random. It was meant to be there so OA falls and and dies in order for the jump to take place. In the Third dimension, Brit is an actor and Issac might be her husband because its not our dimension. It is a very similar dimension but not our dimension. Thats why Hap decided to to take them to that dimension in particular because he was certain that OA is not his enemy in it.
The story kind of reflects to the Archangels like Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Jophiel, Ariel, but more of a different aspects of mixed religion and stories around the world; I mean, if Azrael made an appearance . 🙂
Hey do you guys think that her "brother" IRL is Zal?
That's what I think! I think he'll show up as the Brother (equivalent of Rahim, Karim) in Season 3 in the "real world" dimension.
That would be awesome.
Loved every part of this video
t h a n k y o u
I think it's entirely possible that Steve, Karim, and Rahim are all her brothers. In the sense that as OA says herself, you can "build families out of strange pieces." Meaning even if they aren't technically related, they gravitate towards each other as "family," just like they do when they're caught in their interdemensional echo.
I think the term is used as in a spiritual family, a “constellation” of souls united in the higher realm, that will gravitate towards eachother in this realm of life.
I agree completely, wanted to say how strongly I feel towards this “genre”, these types of Movies and/or shows just make me feel some type of mind binding comfort 😆 also Definitely sound smart when trying to understand the story line and for our scientific knowledge plays apart in all this
so glad so many people agree on this brother theory because this makes more sense than it being steven no matter how badly i wish he was too
very interesting though that they both exist in both dimensions without one being dead??
If anyone from the OA is reading this. It would be awesome if in the third season we see some youtuber commentator videos like this on your show. Or maybe have some actual fans "meeting" brit and such on the show. you guys could even hold a competition to be an extra meeting the cast for the show. I would totally enter in to a competition to be on the OA.
I think that the reason Hap/Isaac said that he was Brit's husband was so that he could go in the ambulance with her. The EMT didn't know and he wouldn't have let a random person go with her, but because he claimed he was her husband, that way he was allowed to go with her.
Laura Harwood yh
I think 'Hap' told paramedics he was 'Brit's' husband based off the information he heard from 'Dr. Robert's' recording of Scott's NDE - claiming they looked like a couple. Whether they were acting as a couple during filming, or during a break from filming, is another question...
Amy Davis yes! They are just acting as spouses, that's what going on. I hadn't even thought of that. I hope there's no reality where they are married.
Agreed. Oh man that would be weird if they were really married! @@racellivie
Best show ever ! Reminds me of Fringe...Need more shows like this !!!
Interesting analysis. Thanks and thumbs up. I ended up with more theories on Season 1 of this show than I did on Season 2, alas. And none of the Season 1 theories were played out, except as you note we did find out definitively that the books were not planted under the bed by the FBI therapist, as I suspected then. I still want to know what happened to Rachel, what was the "blue goo" in the morgue and bathtub, why all the Braille references in Season 1? But I enjoyed Season 2.
Ken Davis I believe the blue goo was actually like a sterilizing goo that Hap and the other scientist both used to remove fingerprints/any evidence of their involvement with their death? The Braille references were important, being the “first” Prairie after her NDE was blind, and it was very powerful for her. On Khatun’s body, the Braille is in German and reads “Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen? ("Who, if I cried out, would hear me among the hierarchies of angels?")
@@pandoraliz2928 Just one of those "Windows momemts" (that's not a bug, that's a FEATURE!!) so hopefully you are only seeing this once.
My wife and soulmate of nearly 40 years is a teacher for the children who are unfortunately visually handicapped, and thus she knows Braille. That said, can you reference the German (I am a huge follower of the show) on the German on Khartun? I've seen some speculation that the Braille on the father's face outside the door on the shack is also in some foreign language (some seem to think Persion, some Farsi.)
But if you have any translations, this old fart would be very interested. And thanks for the reply.
@@kendavis8046 From what people can deduce, the braille on Khartun's face is the first line of a collection of poems called "The Duino Elegies" by German poet Rainer Maria Rilke. ""Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?" = "Who, if I cried out, would hear me among the Angelic Orders".
The braille on OA's father's left cheek says "5 as leere jene", which translates to "5 as empty ones". The braille on his right cheek is too difficult to to see. (How's that for irony?)
There is also braille on the wall of the FBI building lobby in Part 1, episode 7 which reads, "R1C85L". Re[lacing the numbers relative to their letter position in the alphabet; 1=A, 8=H, 5=E... RACHEL.
@@funkynurse7368 I hadn't heard the analysis of the Braille on Khartun's face and the fathers face, just noticed it. But my kids (heck, they're actually both grown) over the holiday break and we were watching it for (me anyway) the third time. That was the first time I noticed the Braille on the FBI office wall. My wife teaches kids with visual issues, and as part of that certification had to learn Braille. We paused, called her in on the FBI wall, and she said immediately "that says Rachel". She could sort of interpret some of the letters in other scenes, but doesn't speak the languages, so we were left with a mystery. BTW - my wife was not interested in watching the first nor second season, but it's always good to have a pro at times to consult when you need one! :-)
Thank you for the translations, interesting stuff. (And I was enthralled with Season 1, somewhat less so with Season 2, but I watched it all in a typical binge.)
@@kendavis8046 No problem! Definitely nice to have a professional handy. Glad you got your kids in on it - hope you can get your wife to see what she's missing! :-) Brit Marling is an amazing storyteller; I'm in awe of her imagination. I'm SO excited to see what's in store over the next 3 seasons!!
the first mention of a brother I immediately thought of Steve to be honest
Al Rahim and Al Karim are 2/99 names of God in Islam :) names/attributes. Would make sense considering khatun speaks arabic; played by a Palestinian woman
Does anyone knows the significance of her speaking Arabic in the show ? what does it resemble?
@@aroobbela11294 yeah I'm also wondering why they chose this language ..
@@aroobbela11294 levantine arabic is one of the oldest languages on earth, so it makes sense a crone-like keeper of death speaks it. Could have something to do with Zal being iranian/having some loose ties with islam possibly? and then growing fond of arabic... (even though persian is completely different to arabic)- but boiling it down the real question is : why not?
I just need to watch season 2 all over again
I know it's an old video, but I am just watching the series. The beginning of season 2 really reminded me to the Shutter Island as DiCaprio's character get (back) to the island to the madhouse. Any opinion on that?
steve in the 3rd dimension is actually homer integrating into steve's body.
Francis Cruz no it was steve, homer was transported but they’re not together because OA transported them there. But OA will not remember Homer thats why before they travel she asked homer to find her.
Just one point - it's not a rose *tinted* window, it's just a *rose window*, referring to the shape and pattern of the stained glass. I feel like this is important, as round windows in doors pop up a few times in the series (and the house itself is a door)
I so wish they'd make a season 3. Best series ever!!!!
7 years......... 7 captured and also the relationship with mo
Oa said she has two soulmates, one is Homer, but the other doesn’t know her yet. Maybe Hap? I already hate that idea but it can be.
Hope its steve
@Integral S2X07 When shes talking to the doorman at the begginig of the episode. She said "boyfriend" not soulmate, but compares him with Homer at least in some way for me. "I have another boyfriend but I haven't met him yet"
@@dariodize I hope it's anyone but Hap
@Integral In the scene the doorman it's discribing one by one the men who have been looking for her, one of them is Ruskin. Watch the scene again ;)
paulinngen she’s referring to Pierre Ruskin because she has not met him yet as prairie
Every little detail is there for a reason, and how the injuries on the head are not continuities errors.
Karim might be the one her parents/adopters adopted in this dimension and in some other dimension Karim and The OA were adopted together and grew op together to be brother and sister.
I don’t think Homer made it to the right dimension (current dimension
where OA and Hap are actors in a show). This theory stems from the fact
that we see Homer lost in the dimension where he licks OA’s back. Season
3 will likely focus on Homers journey to OA’s, Steve’s and Hap’s
dimension (3rd). Also, Steve may have arrived in the current dimension
prior to OA and Hap, since he apparently knew exactly when/where to find
the ambulance carrying them. It's unclear what role Buck/Michelle plays
in this new dimension; why did she climb towards the house/Karim? Is
she a consciousness integration of Buck (1st dimension), Michelle (2nd
dimension), and Buck (3rd dimension)? SO MANY QUESTIONS!
I think Homer jumped into Steve's body at the end of S2 because how else would Steve k ow who Hap was/how to recognize him? Also, when he says, "hello Hap," it sounded exactly like Homer. That's my insane theory!
It's simple: her brother is a different person in every dimension, just like the other characters were as well (Hap and Homer & OA had different names, different roles in the second dimension). Old Knight said she sends OA's brother as a protector (yes you were right: it is obviously the FBI trauma consoler in the first, and the investigator guy she teamed up with in the second dimension). BTW: 1. Her parents told the kids THEY got her the books as suggested by the traum consoler. 2. IF he planted the books there, it was an obvious test to see if the kids would still believe and stay committed).
I would love to know what you think about the vision OA had in that bar, the kids in swimming suits singing... When I saw that, I thought it was another group of travelers, more specifically a group of kids who traveled without knowing, and I thought it could be the fbi shrink, the opera singer (I think Elody even mentioned the singer had a NDE, but I'm not sure, need to check it) and the other 2 I don't really know (it was 3 boys and 1 girl).
A bit of a counter theory - OA's brother is different in each dimension because he is following that dimension's/season's/theme's rules. OA says that Nina saw the whole world, but Prairie/OA saw under it. So it makes sense that Rahim would know his mission, where areas Karim would not. Nina never became the OA, so she didn't need Karim.
I think it's Steve! He's still there for her in both deminsions and who's in the ambulance with her Steve' 😀
I think your on to something there are 7...the AO, Hap,, the 4 other characters that are locked up with her or 7 years (there’s that number again) and Katun or if she’s a far stretch; what about the brother/ protector
Torch Snow 7 has been a big factor in the first season and so has the number 5 we don't know but it's somethin
Iamdavid 23 for sure, when you plan a show our like the creators have, you pick up so many pieces everytime you watch it...i have to admit i never expected, nor was ready for a sentient octopus to be part of this season, let alone give our main protagonist some exposition
Oh and i was curious what was your opinion on the meaning/significance of his dream sequence at the very start of the OA where the skateboarder gets distracted by the AO along the tree line which causes the skate boarder to I assume fall to his death
i had a weird thought... do you think katun and the french traveller are related somehow? i just get this weird feeling that the french woman was sent by katun to inform oa and her “shadow” aka hap
I was thinking the same thing!!! Now that we all know theres some sort of correlation, within all these characters.
OMG I always thought they were same person???
These vids are not too long!!!!!
When you pause as the person turns around in the plane, you clearly see it is Rahim. The nose is much longer than Brit's and the eye area much darker. And the only male person who has such a delicate jaw line is the actor of Rahim.
In the ending, I would say is not our demension, she has short hair there XD
She has short hair, but she is wearing a wig. In the show she has long hair but that does not mean she actually has long hair. It could be a wig aswell. It does male sence that it is our dimension. She wears a wig to film
Ok but why does nobody realise that we're being told that the parents "bought those books to understand her story" EVEN THO the OA hasn't told them her story at all until they left at the end of season one and only when they've been in the hotel THAT'S NOWHERE NEAR THEIR HOUSE?
That's just dumb.
Oh shit
Rahim knew the story and suggested it to the parents though right? Or am I remembering wrong?
It’s NOT a plot hole. So the therapist recommended to her parents to buy those books after hearing OA’s story. This was already after the fact she had been sharing her story to the kids. OA then tells her parents later in the story. When French mentions the books to the dad after she had already died, the dad clarified that the books came after she had already been telling her story, and now understands how those books relate to her story and why they were given to her in the first place. So in some sense, the dad finally believes her daughter at the very end
I thought about this so much
I think they jumped to our dimension. The only reason he mention that he was the husband is because thats the only way he can ride the Ambulance. And the man with the ambulance was shocked because he knew they were not married. ( other theory of mine is Hap and OA character in the 3rd dimension are actors who are portraying a couple)
Or he could her husband as he says..that dimension is not necessarily ours! It could be a very similar dimension but not exactly ours. Also, in the third dimension he was wearing headphones..he could be the director of the show!
one thing worth mentioning is that Katun, Karim and Rahim are all arabic names. Common in Egypt and other arabic and islamic countries
Although more intricate in the OA, the device of jumping dimensions resembles the device of zombies suddenly appearing in The Walking Dead. Interesting for a while, but eventually becomes a cliche and if there's no coherent thread, just silly.
In Arabic Kareem and Raheem are names of Allah ... Allah have 99 names ... and Arab people named their kids using it ... like Abdu raheem or just raheem..and abdu kreem or just kream ... oh and their meaning are raheem means merciful and kreem means generous....and the name of dog in the cave men is Qameer which is totally different in means and writting....
7h 46 minutes later...746 symbolizing angel number?
How about Steve? Which dimension did he come from?
My theory is that this will be a story of Hap's redemption. My clue is that it was Hap that took down the school shooter. You can clearly see his face in the shooting scene. The over all theme that many real NDE'ers relate is that we are here to experience the universe from the perspective of a human and to grow spiritually. I'm thinking that Hap may actually start to lose his evil ways through several dimensions and will end up being redeemed by saving the kids from the school shooter.
I'm sorry OA brother? Never understood that. This became so impossible to understand I had no idea what was happening at all on the finale. Growing bodies in a pool with plants? Robots dancing with her friends but there was no purpose. The house with puzzle was never explained as to who created it, what purpose of solving puzzle was, or why the brother was in the house at the end. Why did Peter the rich dude have drawings of Rahim?? and what did he have to do with death, the house? The dudes character had one scene in the entire show for 5 minutes and was never devloped or explained except he was her rich boyfriend. WHAT? Why was asian girl an old lady, then in a hospital bed, then it was said she didn't exist? No body? Why did OA fall from the window in the house? Why was Dr. her husband with British accent? Why was the buffed dude in the ambulance at the end and where were the other characters? Seriously WORST TV SHOW IN HISTORY when it came to the Finale.
Are you trolling?
I would like to know why Michelle was kept in a bed while the others were sent to Hap. And all the others in the garden were the same kids (dimension 2 versions of the kids we know) - except the purple haired guy. So all the others were there becuse their paths crossed with the OA in the first dimension, except for that one strange boy? so is he really just a random dude, or ...? could he have been the shooter? idk
Kaszás Csilla dont u think that maybe Michelle was chosen so that her Grandmother can knock on Karim door and ask him to be her PI for her “missing” granddaughter ? Since they need Karim to solve the house
@@avrilavignexxo actually, I think it was unneccessery to share everything with the grandma. they could have found another way to make her hire Karim without letting her in on the whole house-riddle-situation. if someone tells you that `your granddaughter is in a coma because she solved a riddle and looked through a window and her spirit is now trapped there, and the only person who can free her is this one guy` is it more convincing that `sorry, we heard that your granddaughter is missing, but here is this guy who is really good at finding people`
Grandma was involved because it was shocking to find out that she was involved
Michelle was the only one who made it to the stained glass window, all the rest went insane before they reached it.
Interestingly there are a bunch of promo interviews with Jason Issacs talking about the OA where he's wearing the same clothes as he was wearing at the end of Season 2 when he jumped into the actor Jason Issacs.....who could be promoting his show on talk shows in this dimension. There is one, (GMA I think) that I can't find now, where he actually slips up and refers to himself as Hap and goes on and on about how he's not a villain. Coincidence?
Brother here means the guardian
Remember in season one when she hears the name OA and can’t quite figure out what it was but guess the voice is saying OA. I think the real name was Theo A, what I’m saying is I think the OA is BBA’s dead brother. There’s a shot in season one where BBA preforms a movement involuntary and there’s a moment where BBA says “I wish you could have met him” and OA replies something along the lines of “me too” but you get the sense that it could Theo A responding to his sister in a way. I think this whole show will be one big cycle and the last season will lead directly into the first in a never ending cycle
EXACTLY! And he might be Steve.
Hap says, "She's my wife" so he can get into the ambulance. They are not married.
but in scotts NDE he explains to hap that hap and OA are together and kissing
I thought Rahim was the brother. He even says to BBA and the others "he was sent to protect her", but maybe they are the same person in a different dimension.
One point you missed that I think ties in nicely with your theory about the guardian Al Rakim and the Seven Sleepers, is that like Al Rakim, the more abstract idea of "the brother" wasn't introduced into the story until later (season 2).
You're Spot On About Her Brother... 🙌
Homer #SoulMate
Hap #LifePartner
Steve #TwinFlame
Something you never spoke about or maybe not aware of is the aspect ratio we watch the show in changes when we change dimension
At the end of the last episode it flicks between 2 ratios, Karim views a different dimension through the rose window (I counted 3 through the series)
I don't believe HAP is at the controls at the end as he wouldn't know his name is Jason Isaacs
Maybe as he traveled to the third dimension maybe he mixed with Isaac's version, or maybe acessed his memory ( maybe that unknow expert lady explained how to do so without the traumatic experience)
They didn’t recognize Steve when he jumped into the vehicle so it’s not our dimension
I don't know I really thought it was Steve, I mean I thought the jumping for her and running after both ambulances was a sign of that. It's a shame there's no definite answer. I mean the other two are played by different actors but maybe because he was sent he doesn't need to be the same. If Karem was her brother though who protected her in every dimension why did he abandon her at the end?
Also Steve leads the movements for her... is that a clue
Can we talk about how Hap knows his name is Jason Isaacs in the other dimension?
@H N I just thought that was peculiar because he was unable to do that in the previous dimension
@@lalitak1418 he learned that from when he met the other traveler
I think he could have known and learn it from the flower petal he ate when he was in the room with Nina.
@@rosieone6519 yes I didn't realise this the first time I watched but it makes the most sense, thank you!
the OA usually uses 5 as a number, that’s a key number. 3, 5, 7 are all magical numbers
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I thought Harim and the doorman was the same person in different age and dimension... i mean. The doorman always helped the OA
I'd go with Steve. And speaking about the husband thing, why do you think he might not be her actual husband in that dimension? Isn't that why Hap wanted to go there in the first place?
Not our "real" dimension because Jason says he's married to Brit (which they are not) and Brits short hair which she doesn't have in real life. It's a very similar dimension. Also why is there no Karim in season 1 but it was said hes always sent there to save her?