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- How to Fix Chipbreaker Clog on a Hand Plane. I often find when restoring hand planes the chipbreaker does not fit well with the Iron of the hand plane and this causes clogs and jams between the iron and chip breaker. in this video, I go over several of the fit issues and make it work well together.
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I've been having this exact problem. You've saved my neighbour's child from learning an inappropriate vocabulary.
LOL glad I could help!
Luckily my neighbors don’t have small children 😂
Just picked up a cheap hand plane. Sharpened the iron. Took one beautiful shaving then jammed up. I'm glad there are people like yourself sharing tips and making it easier for people like myself to get into using these tools.
Glad I could help.
Thank you for having one which was twisted too! You just saved this 100 year old plane from the trash!
I think this is something lots of channels overlook when they do plane setups or restorations. I have a plane that for the life of me I could not get to work, and the chips jamming was the problem. I started searching on cap iron clogging, and came on this older video of yours. The cap iron on my plane is actually flat on the front, it is rounded, but there is about a mm of flat on the face. I also learned from another channel, that the cap iron should be a bit bowed, so the screw actually pulls it slightly down when it's tightened. Keep up the good work,but also remember that sometimes you have to show starting with a new inexpensive tool, that may need more effort to get it working than a vintage tool, that isn't in good condition but has many things like the blunt edge on the chip breaker already removed, or the cap iron not bent slightly.
Oldie but goodie. It was my chip breaker which had a slight gap, bad angle. Couldn't believe what a difference it made. Thanks!
Sweet. I love it when a good tool starts working the way it should.
2 and a half years after you posted it and it's helped me too - thanks!
thanks Carl. glad i could help!
Very helpful. I've recently crossed a threshold with my journey with planing, producing thin shavings with a no. 5, type 20. Took me a lot of practice, sole flattening, sharpening, etc., it's been quite the learning the curve but very happy to be getting nice results now. I do have this one problem with clogging and only just the other day I noticed the gap between the chipbreaker and the iron, on one end but also along the edge. Then I came across this video. Pretty sure this is going to help me. Thank you for posting this!
Thanks for this. Tuned up a new Stanley no5 jack plane dumped in recycling. Nothing worked well. Came from factory like this. Causes huge frustration to unfortunate buyers who occasionally bin them out of sheer desperation! Tackling a plane like this is a joy to see it now cutting and operating how it should do on leaving the factory. Tip. I use a magnifier to check no gaps anywhere. Check particularly the extreme ends left and right.
Thank you for making this video! This is one of the MANY problems I have been having with my plane. As a beginner, I can never tell if it's me, the wood, or the plane. I'm starting to really hate the thing, but I don't want to give up yet.
that is so much fun to figure out. unfortunately experience is a tough teacher!
I am not a wood worker, nor have any plans to be one.
But this is a downright honest comment. Honesty is a million times above carpentry. The more mistakes we make , the more we learn.
Also Life teaches us what we were made for. Sometimes giving up one thing, takes us into another field which we may like more!
'To each his own.'
Thanks a lot. Now I know why I was struggling to get quality shavings with my #6 foreplane. I'll be correcting the chipbreaker this afternoon.
I have used a feeler gauge to check if there is any possible catch area between the iron and the chip breaker. I prefer not to used a finger nail (and the close proximity of finger skin to the sharp iron). I have also used Paul Sellers technique to really strop the outside front of the chip breaker to micro buff the front edge.
All my planes are older tools, bought from flea markets, second hand stores, etc., and most of them were pretty rough. Even as a novice, I have brought most of them back to usable condition, all of them look and perform “acceptably well”, but not a one to “perfection”. That’s is, none shave that nicely….and now, thanks to you sir, I think I now know why! Gotta love CZcams! BTW, where did all your tools go? Your wall behind you is naked! Anyway, Bravo-Zulu, we’ll done, on another exceptional tutorial! Thank you, brother!
Thanks. This is an old video from when I was moving the shop around and hadn't had it all set up yet.
Thank you for making this. I’m finally trying to learn to use my handplanes and I’m trying not to get discouraged and eliminate one issue at a time so that I can learn where it’s the tool and where the problem is me. Really helpful video in that process!
Nice! I like it. if you ever have questions feel free to ask any time.
So this last weekend I had the same bent chip breaker issue. I will use the hit it with a mallet process when I get back in the shop. I did the other steps and still had that slight line of light.
Wow how much the shop has changed in 5 years!
Exactly the problem I was having. Followed your procedure and now the problem, like my ex, went away. Thank you!
p. s. I also subscribed...
I've watched a few videos on fixing the chip breaker over the years, but yours was the only one that mentioned grinding a flat bevel on to the top/front of the chip breaker. Thanks for the tip!
Thanks. My pleasure?
Dude........THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now i have a better idea what’s going on with my planes.....
Glad I could help.
Thank you thank you James! Very helpful on where even to start. You are a valuable asset in the CZcams community. Your hard work is appreciated by many.
Interesting video! I did this to my Jackplane 40 YEARS AGO. Never repeated the operation since. You only need to do it once!
Right on. As long as you don't accidentally break something or been something it works great.
You are a lifesaver, James. Well not quite my life, but you have saved my sanity by demonstrating this. Thank you.
+Ryan thanks Ryan. My pleasure.
Timeless advice. Timely, too.
I ran into this problem with the cheap Footprint plane I bought at Home Depot. I decided it was the fault of the cheap plane and bought a top of the line Stanley which I love. But now I'm motivated to see if I can tweak up the cheap plane. Thanks for this.
you can fix it up, but that plane has other issues and will not stay tuned.
I've been thinking of turning it into a scrub plane, as per your video. Will that work? i have the good Stanley now so I don't need it for smoothing work.
That is what I did with mine! works well for that!
Thanks. Big fan here. Really enjoy your videos and I've learned a lot from you. I've decided to concentrate on hand tool work. The power tools are too noisy and create too much dust. So I've started my hand tool collection. You inspire me. Thanks again.
+David Scott thanks David. That means a lot.
My brand new Stanley #5, the transition of the chip breaker had a blunt lip about 3/32” tall….. took it out and it runs sooo much better! Thank you so much!
Thank you, sir. It was exactly what I was looking for! Well done.
My pleasure! glad I could help!
Greetings from the Great White North. Thank you very much for posting this solution. I have one large jointing plane which has this exact problem. The chip breaker is rounded, curved and has a large gap in the centre and I wasn't sure how to fix it, without making it worse. Now, thanks to you I have some specific steps I can follow to resolve this frustrating issue. I appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos. Take care and keep up the good work.
thanks! if you have further questions feel free to ask anytime.
Ive recently picked up a few planes and couldnt for the world of me figure out why it was getting jammed up. Thank you; havent been using them because i couldnt figure out how to fix it.
thanks glad I could be of service.
Thanks a lot from Italy!
THANK YOU!!!!!!
its my first ever plane i bought/used and i figured it's the chipbreaker .. but i needed to make sure that it is the chipbreaker because i saw the gap but didn't know how i'd fix it ..
now i need to sand it fine...
glad I could help!
@@WoodByWright you more than helped .. you saved me some cash as well because if i didn't know how to fix it, i would've given up .. i'm a little late to start woodworking .. i spent 5 or 6 years watching woodworking videos but never started anything because of the lack of tools and materials in where i live .. i just mustered the courage to purchase tools and some cheap wood but at first the hand plane didn't work.. so i watched a couple of videos, everyone said you should always sharpen it because the manufacturer never sells it sharp, so i did shapened it and it worked for about 4 passes and then it clogged.. no other youtuber/woodworker talked about the importance of fine tuning the chip breaker .. glad i found you ... SUBBED AND LIKED
@@WoodByWright i fixed it using this video !! it worked like a charm .. it planed well ... thanks again
Awesome. Glad I watched this. I have this problem and my inexperience has left me thinking this was just a bad plane. Can't wait to get home and try this out.
+gobblesmac it is amazing what a good fitting chipbreaker can do.
Having this exact problem right now so this video couldn't have been better timed.
thanks Glad I could help
Thanks for this video, James. For seemingly every problem I run into, you have a "fix-it" video. I can't thank you enough.
Thanks Chris. I aim to please!
This is helpful. I have had this problem with a couple of planes. Now I know how to correct the problem.ThanksFrank
Glad I could help Frank. thanks!
After buying a cheap hand plane from Harbor Freight, I have had a pivotal realization: I need to watch EVERY Wood By Wright tool video before doing ANYTHING else. Then refer back each individual as necessary. Thank you for this.
LOL thanks Mak. if you ever have a question just ask.
I was just wondering why this was happening the other day and I thought I need to write James Wright and ask him how to fix this! Great tip! Thanks!
+Billy McCord thanks Billy. Glad I could help.
I appreciate your attention to detail. I’ve got work to do.
I new it had to be something like this! I've been struggling to figure out exactly what I need to modify and this should set it right. Thanks
Really useful. I’ve been getting shavings caught under the chip breaker for years, I thought I wasn’t setting the position of the chip breaker correctly but this seems to have fixed it (on a cheap Faithful No 7 plane). Once I’d seen what you’re doing it seemed really obvious. Thanks
Thanks! This saved my plane.
There's always a time for brute force, that's why we have big hammers and mallets. Good video James, thanks for posting it.
LOL I love violent manipulation.
Had this exact problem with an antique Stanley No. 4, just wasn't able to cut at all. Spent some time really making sure that the chipbreaker lined up using this video and now I'm getting beautiful curls out of a 120 year old tool. Great tips!
Sweet. Love seeing a tool do what it was mentioned to do.
Thanks for the video James!! Very useful!!!! 🙂
Another good no nonsense video James! Next time you sharpen your smoothing plane iron, put an 80 degree bevel on the cap iron (instead of the hump). Set it close and enjoy. The shavings won't curl. They shoot straight up (this further fights tearout too)
yup I have a whole video on that too, but I only do it for my smoothing plane.
"That's all it took that little bit there" i just bought a jorgensen No4. it seems pretty well constructed and the blade and chip breaker are made of decent metals, that's the issue I am having with my chip breaker, it was highly not flat and I just spent 2 hours on 80 grit to get it flat 😅
Awesome information that you might not think of being a problem or even looking at the chip breaker causing a problem. Thank You so much for all your help and information.
thanks Thom! so true!
This helped a lot! Thanks for giving me the confidence to give my twisted chip breaker a whack. Between that, and a really good sharpening of my blade, I'm finally getting fine shavings and my plane is working as it's supposed to. I might tune up the chip breaker a little bit more using some of these techniques. Thanks!
Thanks. Glad I could help.
Really helpful video, I will check my planes immediately. I’ve been having this issue with my Stanley No 5, thank you for the information.
+Terry Whitworth thanks Terry. Good luck man. It is so nice when the plane is tuned up.
Very helpful. My plane has this exact problem. Should be able to fix it now. Thanks.
Exactly the information I needed. Clearly and effectively passed along. Grateful. Thank you.
Thanks Clif. That means a lot!
@@WoodByWright And one hour later my #5 is back to being awesome. Cheers.
Ah thanks so much. It was the mallet blow who was missing. I've managed to get shavings from my N°5. Thanks so much.
Fantastic, now I know where I was going wrong! I’ll be digging out the box of discarded old planes and hopefully getting some to work this afternoon.
Sweet! I love seeing planes come back to life!
really helpful lesson. thanks
FANTASTIC SUBJECT James....Thanks...richard from not so far north....
+Richard Rider thanks richard!
I needed this video! Like you I'm running into this with planes I've restored. I've been very careful about making any adjustment to the chip breaker but clearly it can be the best approach. Thanks for all of your content.
Thanks Jim. It is my pleasure.
Thanks! I was in the shop an hour ago trying to figure out why my plane was clogging up. Then this video appeared on the suggested list.
nice. here to help!
Wow! I was literally having this problem this morning. I have a little more work to do on my chip breaker, and this really helped a ton! Thanks for the timely video!
+Black Tooth Woodworking my pleasure. Glad I could help!
Fantastic tutorial, James. Never thought about twist in the chip breaker. Thanks!
thanks Johann. I never did either tell I found it one day. it was a head-scratcher for a few minutes. lol
This is super helpful. Thanks. My number 4 does this and now I know how to fix it!
Glad I could help Bill.
I hate clogging! Thank you for doing this it's a common problem. Btw I'm sorry to say, but it's 'all the way across' not 'acrossed'. Thanks for the videos
HeyPockyWay that's two sentences. ... for doing this. It's a ... lol
thanks man! LOL depends on where you are from.
Perfect, thanks. Excited to check out my plane this weekend. Never considered chips might be catching on the rounded over top side of the chip breaker.
That is not a common problem but it does happen. it is more comon that there is a gap and they go under it.
Thanks for this video👍👍just fixed my problem on my Stanley 4👌👌👌👌
you're a good man . always appreciate your uploads
Hello James, Thanks a ton!! you´ve made my day, great tip..I´m learning every day :) . Cheers from Uruguay. Alfredo
Thanks man! glad I could help!
Excellent piece of info and video.Thanks
thanks.
This was very helpful. It was frustrating that my freshly sharpened plane was jamming full of chips every time I started to get it set up.
Lol I have been in that boat. No fun.
great information i have the same problem so now i have a solution
+GE STANDARD glad I could help.
Thank you
I am having this problem. Now I know how to fix it . Thanks Tim
glad I could help Tim!
THANK.... YOU!!! now i know what i need to do out in the shed this weekend
+Claes Wikberg lol my pleasure. Glad I could help.
thank you for this video, now my issue solve.
Thanks!
Im just getting into woodworking and you have been a big help in many areas including this one.
Thanks. Bob. My pleasure.
This helped me so much! Thanks for this James. Keep up the good work.
My pleasure! thanks for being first today!
I had that problem with the old one I bought now I know how to fix it thanks James.
Sweet! glad I could help.
Great video James! You are such a great teacher!
+Ian Enderby thanks Ian my pleasure.
Thanks so much for this video. This is the only thing keeping my beloved #7 Stanley and one of my #4's from performing.
Sweet! glad I could help!
Thanks for this. I somehow chipped the heck out of my chip breaker. Total rookie mistake - not sure how I did it yet either. Pissed at myself. Not sure if I can fix the chip breaker or if I need to replace it.
Nice work. Thanks.
+Trevtao thanks.
Hi James. I made this comment on another video, but this one is much more appropriate. I couldn't get the edge of my chip breaker flat. The middle sat flat, but both edges were high. I tried flatting on the stone, but I couldn't get it flat. Now I think I've removed so much material that the entire edge of the chip breaker hovers over the back of the iron. I have no idea what to do.
oh sorry just mentioned this video on the other one. you can always bend the nose of the chip breaker down. it sounds like when sharpening it you are putting too much pressure on the outsides. the steel is really flexible and can easily deform with too much pressure in one spot or another.
@@WoodByWright thank you. I'm guessing I only have a few more shots at this, haha.
Great tip.
thanks Thomas!
Thank you. Great video. I'm off to the workshop to "sharpen" the chip breakers.
+Gary Knight lol don't have too mich fun!
Thank you for doing this video. I've been having this problem a lot.
Glad I could help Caleb!
Thanks you very much for this tip. I've this problem until I DIY a scrub plane ...
And by the way, thanks for your channel ! I like it, tons of useful infos for a good & efficient use of handtools ! It's scarse and precious :-D
Cheers, from Normandy.
thanks man!
Great tip!
thanks Jim!
Thank you for this lessen, I now see that I've only been going 1\2 with trying to fix mine.
How do you know so much? It's always a pleasure to see what New piece of wisdom you leave with us in your videos 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks man. it comes from messing up so much. it is a great way to learn.
Nice !!!!
I spy a French cleat system in the making.
yup. that will be out tomorrow!
I have noticed that comments are not present in recent woodworking videos, except for yours. Why was this done, if you know. Good video as always.
I don't know. I do know that when you scroll down to see comments you now have to wait a few seconds for them to come up. youtube does this so the video will load faster and it only loads the comments when you scroll down for them.
Exactly what I needed today, thank you for this video! Excellent as usual
Still not asmr….😂
Yep. LOL not on the old videos.
Thanks for the tips James appreciate it as always.
+Joe Dov any time Joe. Thanks.
Wish you'd taught my 8th grade industrial arts class. Thank you!
Hi there from Portugal,
Nice :D
Obrigado(Thanks)
thanks man!
I always have probs with all my chip breakers! Thanks for this video!
my pleasure man!
Thank you!
Good topic, many new woodworkers don't get its function. I'd like to see you make the totes from scrap wood. I'm gonna do this at some point and I want some good carpenter's input on it.
+Chris Cunicelli so true Chris.
That is on my list as I have a pile of tools to restore.
Had this exact problem... thank you
Glad I could help 6 nice to have a plane that works properly.
Thank you, this video solve my problem.
Sweet! that is what I like to hear!
Yeah. Thats it. It solved my problem with my plane ! Gracias ;)
+gryshie100 perfict. Glad I could help.
Hi James, hope you and your family are doing well and staying safe. So I decided to go the sandpaper on tempered glass route for sharpening my plane irons. I have 400 through 2000 grits. My question is can I do the chip breaker with sandpaper, and if so which grits should I use, all that apply?
Thanks brother, love your videos and keep up the good work.
Bobby
Yes you can do the chip breaker the exact same way. I would use the same grits just realize the chip breaker is much softer so it will remove material a lot faster. So you may want to start out at something around 6 or 800. but it all depends on how bad the chip breaker is if it needs a lot of work then you might start with 400.
Thanks, James - I have this problem (fixable now!)
+Steve SteveS my pleasure steve.
Thanks for the info James! 👍
thanks Fred!
Hey thanks I run into that problem a lot with my plane
+Eric Luba there you go. Glad I could help.
I'm surprised you still have hairs on your arms with all that testing. Thanks James; awhile back I flattened the face of my chip breaker but did not think about the 'Bevel' on the top, fortunately the plane is running smooth but I will take a look at it in the interest of it being more efficient. Don't you know that half the people who visit your channel come only for the Dad jokes? we actually have a book published here in Oz, and I was thinking of sending one to you :)
LOL after the arm I use my head. that is why there is no hare up there? LOL I do like my dad jokes!