The Best 120mm/140mm Radiator Fan Shootout - P14 vs NF-A12x25, NF-A14, Toughfan 12, Kaze Flex 140
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- Here's my fourth in a year-long series looking at the very best fans for your PC. This time around, I'm going to name the best 140mm fan for use on 140mm and 280mm radiators.
UPDATE: The battle continues in my next 120mm cooler fan shootout series, right here! - • Best 120mm CPU Cooler ...
Want to support this channel? Pick up any of the product in this roundup using the links below:
- Arctic P14 PWM PST: amzn.to/2TqvAcs
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- Arctic P14 5-pack (HOT DEAL!): amzn.to/392qKLm
- Deepcool TF140 S: unavailable at retail but included on Castle 280EX cooler: amzn.to/35xxqOr
- Noctua NF-A12x25: click.linksynergy.com/deeplin...
- Noctua NA-SFMA1 120mm-to-140mm Adapter (2-pack): amzn.to/2HyzrBT
- Noctua NF-A14 PWM Chromax.Black: amzn.to/35CnAdU
- Scythe Kaze Flex 140 1800RPM PWM Square Frame: amzn.to/34zXdX2
- Thermaltake Toughfan 12: amzn.to/3dUfmlk
- Thermaltake Toughfan 12 Two-Pack: amzn.to/3mn4YFH
- UPDATE: Thermaltake Toughfan 14 Two-Pack now available!!! - amzn.to/3aw7Vzx
This is the setup you want for 280mm rads, without a question!
Test Bench:
CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 3700X: amzn.to/3mriO9R
CPU Cooler - Deepcool Castle 280EX AIO Cooler: amzn.to/35xxqOr
MB - Asus X470 Crosshair VII Hero WiFi: amzn.to/3mriLLd
GPU - EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Black: amzn.to/3kxLeP5
RAM - Patriot 2x8GB Viper RGB DDR4-3600: amzn.to/3opOv5t
Case - be quiet! Pure Base 500DX: amzn.to/34s09od
Check out my previous shootouts below:
(1) Best 120mm Radiator Fan: • The Best 120mm Cooler/...
(2) Best 120mm Case Fan: • The Best 120mm Case Fa...
(3) Best 120mm & 140mm Case Fan: • The Best 120mm/140mm C...
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:19 The Contenders
05:20 Test Setup
05:48 Idle Benchmark at Min RPM
07:04 Min RPM Audio Samples
08:03 Cinebench R20 Benchmark at Maximum RPM
09:32 Maximum RPM Audio Samples
10:27 Cinebench R20 Benchmark, Decibel-Normalized
11:42 40dBA-Normalized Audio Samples
12:34 Conclusions - Věda a technologie
Just want to mention, this guy's a fantastic presenter. Easy to understand and speaks at a decent pace and volume.
Really nice of you to take the time to share that. I'll admit it took some work. In my early videos, I definitely talked too fast!
100% agreed on that
I've been waiting for this I love these round ups! Nobody on yt does them like you!
Arctic is really the value king when it comes to fans, OMG.
Yes!Exactly!
Just bought 4 P14 to equip my case, can't wait
17:17 I couldn’t talk more but thank for all your great work. For the past one year, I improved both my English and PC knowledge because of your passion in answering those tricky questions that geeks are truly looking for, many thanks man
Thank you for sharing your experience, I'm glad to help you with both your English and PC knowledge!
I REALLY appreciate that you went through the trouble of updating the links in your description with those new releases! I was hoping the TT one had a 140mm variant and you took that search time right out from under me.
Thank you for another in-depth shootout, I'm always happy to see so much more data in a well produced video, especially when I'm looking at the Freezer II 280 to see which 140 fan to pair with it
Luckily for you, the LFII is best used with the fans it comes with!
Another great roundup from TBG. Thanks for including the P14 Ari, we appreciate all you do!
Sure thing!
Is there a way to get P14 in Indonesia?
I only checked one other review before ordering the P14 PWM PST. Happy to see another reviewer liking it. Will use two of them in the front intake of a P400A
This is really an excellent educational material for people who are seeking changes to factory radiator fans. Thumbs up!
Love your fan shoot outs, very informative
Yes! Arctic is seriously the best. When I finally start my PC building business I really want to use them for all builds.
Cool, can't wait to see the results!
Thank you so much for the review !!!
Damn, that Artic P14 really is a great cheap allround fan.
Great testing!
oh man, I can't wait. Rooting for Arctic!
I did my own testing with a few of these. The artics won out. I'm not CZcamsr or anything but a few packs of fans for some builds for friends and family and in almost every scenario the artics won out.
Arctic's fans are the superior fans. This has become clear to me after spending well over $100 on them.
They may not technically be the best in all categories, especially noise when you really crank them, but damn it if they aren't top 5% or even 1% with literally unbeatable value.
@@LiveType I have four of them in my corsair 4000 d airflow. They are freaking amazing.
@@merwinpique do you have f12's or p12's on your case? im using the same case and putting 3 f12's in the front 1 in the back for exhaust and two p14's at the top with the radiator
@@goomi8908 I have the P12.
Awesome video man. As expected, the Arctic P-14 pwm that I voted for won this round up but surprisingly those Thermaltake rad fans look great and according to your test also performed very well for the price. Great informative video as usual and keep up the great tech content.
You were right, good guess on those P14s! But the big surprise was the ToughFan 12, becomes my main recommendation for 120mm cooler/rad upgrades!
I enjoy your channel, one of the most under rated channels. Keep it up!
Glad you enjoy it!
Happy I don't need or ever am going to want to upgrade the fans on the Deepcool Castle 280EX that I recently bought. Nice!
Amazing as usual. Thanx for the great info bro.
No problem 👍
Excellent review as always. Congratulation
Nice content,Thank you!I just pick eight Arctic P12 PWM and two P14 to change my 360+240 costum loop fan set up mostly Because your 3 video before，great value indeed！
Great to hear, that's a big upgrade!
Can confirm: Those DeepCool fans really howl at high RPM. I have a TF120S as my exhaust, set to 50% RPM and it can blow papers across my desk. But at Max RPM it sets off car alarms across the street :D Great video as always! Looking forward to more!
I was getting ready to splurge on some noctua 140s instead of the Arctic P14s 5 pack, now I have to go watch your case fan shoot out and look up the 6 vs 5 artic fanb video as well. Glad I found this though as I will gladly save $$ for the same or better performance
Thanks for the video. Just ordered a Tough Fan 12.
Glad I could help!
really excited to see this.
Props for bringing up the noctua 140mm adapter. I have never seen anyone mention it. Subbed!
Great reviews! There's a serious dearth of 140mm fan comparisons.
good work as always 👍
Very impresive job! It may be interesting to see how to the P12 on the Noctua adapter perform vs P14.
I can only second all those positive comments. I'm glad you actually do content that matters, instead of going into specs you can hear from 638926 other TechTubers!
Really looking forward to that Arctic P12 and P14 setup comparison!
Thanks Paul, I try to be a bit different from the 638926 others! You sure it's not 638927, there's another every day!?!
@@TheTechBuyersGuru dang, you are right, it might be even 638929 by now, due to more people staying at home 😂
Love these videos!
Glad you like them!
Oh wow, the Arctic P14 has a _really_ pleasant noise profile at 40dbA. Combined with its exceptional performance for the price, they seem like a very good choice.
Also very good as case fans: czcams.com/video/PUdsTiRmuuU/video.html
Another excelente review. Thank You.
great shootout.. thank you!
No problem, I'll try to keep them coming!
Thanks for the video, really good presentation and information. Will definitely take a look at the Thermaltake fans.
Glad it was helpful! Yeah, if you need two, don't miss the 2-pack, which sometimes doesn't come up in searches: amzn.to/35D34tH #ad
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Thanks for your reply. Do you think the Toughfan 12s are worth it over two Arcitc P12s on a 240mm radiator? The Thermaltakes do come out at a higher cost.
They are significantly better than P12 fans. The Noctua was in this roundup because it defeated the Arctic. Thermaltake matches the Noctua for less.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Alright, thanks a lot.
Looking forward! Hope it also includes the 120mm Gentle Typhoons and (the noisy) 140mm Fractal's Venturi HP & Phanteks' PH-F140MP :) If not, these and the Bitfenix Spectre 1800rpm vs the quiet Arctics for the next time!
I found this very useful for me.. Thanks for the information...
Glad it was helpful!
Bought Arctic 140 pwm pst 5 pack in Serbia for 26€...best money spent.
Welcome to to the Arctic club bro.
Since I saw the TT Toughfan 12 it was love at 1st. sight, althought I'm very undecided with ARCTIC PWM PST 12.
Love your channel man !!! I just discovered it !!!
Welcome aboard! You might want to check out my 360mm liquid cooler shootout that went live today! - czcams.com/video/qr3bWJ033LY/video.html
I just picked up some of those toughfan 12s. Been waiting for black x25s for a while now. I gotta say these thermaltake fans are amazingly quiet! Love them!
Glad you agree they perform well!
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Would love to see you test them on a case with a closed off front panel. I got these to use as intake on a NZXT H700. I know they are designed to be used on radiators but they seem to work fine in this application. They seem to overcome the restricted intake very well and since they are so much quieter than my old 140mm redux fans, I can run them at a higher RPM and pull even more air into the case.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Update on the thermaltake Toughfans. I picked up a few of them for my H700 as I mentioned before( 6 in total) one has failed. Looks like the bearings are shot. It made a god awful sound before it eventually locked up. Lets hope it was just a one off and not a sign of overall quality.
Glad i found this video haha. Do you still recomend P14 to put in front of the case? my aio is placed at the top, or there are better options?
Really good video, been looking for replacement fans for my CoolerMaster AIO as I found the fans it came with were very very loud, but I have to say, you sound exactly like Freakin' Reviews
More on this topic here: czcams.com/video/agojNJedtR8/video.html
Such a low subs count for such quality videos !? Keep up the good work !
Working on it!
dude i love you
you make the best fan reviews
Much appreciated!
Another great roundup. Surprised at the results. I actually use the P14 but I always assumed the NF-A14 were better.
I think a lot of people make that assumption... but probably not Noctua, which is why they are working on an NF-A14x25.
Awesome you got thermaltake's clone of the NF-A12x25! Would be interested to see how it performs, I don't really see myself switching out my P12s anytime soon though
Yeah, I specifically got it because a number of viewers asked me to test it, so here it is!
I dont know why you dont have more subscribers. Your content is solid.
Thanks for checking out the channel!
Great content.
Thanks! I have about a half-dozen similar videos, so definitely check them out if you're interested! Examples:
140mm case fan shootout: czcams.com/video/PUdsTiRmuuU/video.html
120mm/140mm case fan placement video: czcams.com/video/iCn-XL-HyXg/video.html
This video is absolutely the best I've seen.
My issue is that I hate high pitch fans with a passion.
The Arctic P14 had the best sound imo, followed by the Noctua NF-A14.
Obviously I chose the Arctic P14 since it was among the quietest and best performing.
I have absolutely no regrets, It sounds FAN-tastic!
Thanks for the feedback. And yeah, the P14 has a much lower-pitched sound than the others at the same dB level.
Have you tried Phanteks PH-F140MP? How it is comparing to P14 in general and especially in low rpm mode on a radiator? Thanks
Guessed the winner! Great fan and great review!
Nice! Glad you liked the review!
You sir, you really are a guru.
I want to do Custom Loop and currently have 2x NF-A12's, should I upgrade or not?
I just realized Im way to deep into fans.. i watch these shootout video for entertaining purpose and the fan noise samples have a similar effect as some asmr videos on me :DD
I actually think that's why people like these reviews, LOL!
Lol, you are not alone!
you are the true fan of fans
Im using p14 and nf-a14, love them!
In which scenarios do you prefer each?
Extremely impressed with the thermaltake fans. I was debating between p14 and nf-a14, but I may go with the TT instead.
I hope you didn't
Props to thermaltake. Decent looking fan and performs nicely. Appreciate the hard work you put into testing!
Glad you liked it, and yes, Thermaltake came through strong!
Still waiting for the 140mm version of Noctuas NF-A12x25 PWM, but damn are they slow getting new products out?! :P
With no nf-a14x25 available yet but a tough fan 14 exists, would be interesting to see how that fan stacks up against this lineup as well as the t30 and p140 bionix
The Artic P14 sounds pretty good. I wish, we all have wishes, you ran the speed test and the more typical rpms that most would, such as between 800-1000 rpms to hear how they sound. The Noctua 120 still has the best sound quality in my opinion. Thanks for the reviews.
"I would never runs these Fans at such high speeds" *Brofist*
Finally another Channnel who does proper Fan reviews! There really isn't enough out there.
Being a silent freak, over the past 20 years I came from (back then experimental) Watercooling, to Air, to Semi-Passive, now back to Watercooling... and always were the Fans the most important part! I've had soooo many over the years but in my book the new Arctics have proven to be among the best ever, even without considering the Price. Simply unbeatable when price considered. So thanks for the exeptionally good work with all your Fan reviews. And keep going, your way of reviewing is... pleasant. Looking forward to see more from your channel.
BTW: I don't think TT or Scythe are really copying Noctua here, but rather all 3 just either used licensed manufacturing of anothers design or just bought at the same Manufacturer and relabeled... namely: Nidec. One sees this design so often, also in industrial applications, it's either Nidecs or someones elses Patent and they all just piggyback on it / buy from them.
Thanks for the positive feedback! And yes, this is a Nidec design, and Noctua, Scythe, and Thermaltake have each used it at one time or another. I'm not sure about the licensing method, but Nidec is still very active in licensing its design so I'm sure they get a cut or file a legal claim!
I would love to see the audio tests on these fans after say 3-4 years of use. Depending on the bearing type used for each, there could be a significant difference in sound, as well especially for some types depending on orientation.
Well, you'll have to wait 3-4 years, then. Wait, that won't work, I'm not actually run all these fans for 3-4 years straight, so yeah, I can't do that for you!
When you update this test, you should add the EK Vardar F3-120mm
Looking forward to this. Been at it for a month trying different case and radiator fans. Wayyyy too much fan swapping going on but I've settled on something and I'm looking forward to your results as I've taken your advice in the past. In the meantime, I've learned that it all ends up depending on my case, with it's quirks and restrictions (silent case). However, the fans you suggested are great and I love them. I've just had to change it up a bit to meet the "demands," of my silent case.
Can you share your formula for a silent case?
@@KW-pt9ke No way, I've only tried two cases and a whole bunch of fans but I can tell you what I've tried. First off, there is often something that is going to cause noise. I got all my stuff quiet and then bought a new graphics card with a bit of coil wine. yay. I can't win. However, the silent case kills high frequencies like that. That's the point and one advantage of a "silent," build, I guess. My first build used an Antec p101 silent case (cheap and really quiet case but generic door clasps broke and customer support failed to help.) Returned that case and got a Phanteks 600P Eclipse or something like that. The black one without glass and acoustic dampening on each panel...
I'm breaking this up in case there is a message character limit... more to come
This case isn't as silent but it has the option of opening up a front panel and top panel to allow for venting. This way you can have some fun overclocking and whatnot but then shut it up when you want your peace and quiet back. I first went with a Gamemax power supply after reading reviews but I personally found it too loud. The fan ran high and often. So I changed it out for a Be Quiet Straight Power 11 Platinum 750w modular power supply. Perfect! No more noise there. Now the fans. I've tried a whole bunch of radiator fans and tested them by their volume and ability to cool during an OC and stress test (no special measurements... just me running benchmarks and overclocking, all while intently listening and forming my own opinions and observations). I've settled on the Noctua nf12x25 push pull on 280 radiator using the adapter mounts. I also use Phobya shrouds to keep the fans off the radiator. This allows the air to expand, covering more ground and also helps with any fans that are sensitive to being right up on something or having to pull through a filter or mesh. However if a fan doesn't like to push or pull, no shroud is going to fix that, most likely. Keep looking. Those fans are pretty quiet and if you aren't overclocking and running prime95 small, you won't hear them. However, they maintained my lowest cpu temps out of all the fans I've rifled through. Also, the arctic AIO (280 in my case) is great because you can control the pump noise. So that is super important to my silent build. I like using an AIO because you can close off the case and not be afraid of strangling your air cooler. There are all these cool non aio air coolers now but you need a good airflow case for that. I also like that the AIO uses water and will absorb spikes in cpu usage before the computer goes full blower mode. Sure you can set you curves and whatnot with an air cooled rig but I'm using an AIO, so there! :)
So that pretty much did it for me. A silent case with acoustic dampening on the front, top, and sides. A silent power supply. An AIO with pump that can be controlled to silent levels (never all the way quiet but that's only if you open it up and stick your head in there. From your computer chair to the case, it's inaudible). Radiator fans that performed the best and are quiet/silent at idle levels are my Noctua nf12x25's but I also like the Thermal Take Toughfan 12's. They have a bit of motor noise compared to the Noctuas but they performed damn near the same in my little overclock and prime95 test. They have a deeper and darker tone than the Noctuas. Plus they are black and match the rest of my build. I'm keeping both sets. Noctuas are in now but I'm switching back tomorrow to continue to A/B.
Great video, buddy. You are one of the best tech testers, I hope you will achieve great success in the yt scene. But I have a question now, should I buy an aio cooler with 280mm heatsink and mount an arctic p14 pwm on it or is it better to buy aio cooler with a 360mm heatsink and mount an arctic p12 pwm pst? Which solution offers me better performance?
Thanks for the compliment! As for your question, 360mm AIO coolers generally outperform 280mm models, but will also be a bit louder due to using an extra fan and spinning it at higher RPM. I may do a shootout soon showing the difference!
I'm bummed the BQ Silent Wings 3 wasn't in here, but still a great video
I mentioned it in a community post from TBG and he responded that from prior tests he didn't think it was competitive. From his and other tests I had a different opinion and predicted the noise-normalized results here, where everything was 1-2 degrees apart. The SW3 still by far have the best sound profile to my ears so I don't feel bad that I paid so much for them :) .
I'm more than willing to sacrifice a few degrees for the sound, but not everyone builds a PC like I do. That's why it is great that TBG has had as many contenders over the course of these videos, everyone should be able to find something that works for them!
Also I'd love to see that Arctic P14 vs P12
between Thermaltake Toughfan and arctic which would be better for the case exhaust fan? Or do you have any other recommendations? I hope to get a reply :)
Definitely the Arctic, but even better is the Scythe Kaze Flex 140: amzn.to/3OlQAw7 #ad
I know because I tested it: czcams.com/video/PUdsTiRmuuU/video.html
Great video, as always. After watching your video about best case fans, I have thought about putting the NB-eLoop B14-PS as case fans. Would these NBs also better for an aio nzxt z63 instead of the stock aer P from nzxt in your opinion? Thanks for the great job.
My guess is that they aren't good for radiators due to their directional airflow. Remember, great case fans do not make great radiator fans!
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Thanks for your quick reply. I'll keep it in mind.
Thermaltake also released a 140mm Toughfan 14. Damn they're kicking Noctua's ass in their own game!
Just saw that announced today. That's a big release, about a year ahead of Noctua (literally).
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Could you test TOUGHFAN 14 please?
What about Arctic F 140? Isn't better for case airflow?
Really appreciate your work! Going to get the P14 for my Kraken X63 based on what I have learned here.
A question though. I am building a new PC in the CoolerMaster NR200 case. I am going to use P14 as side panel AIO intake fans as mentioned.
BUT I am wondering which one should I go for top exhaust fans. 2x Scythe Kaze Flex 120mm (the winner in your 120mm case fans shootout video) or 2x P12? Does having both sets of fans from Arctic offer any advantage?
Again, many thanks for your great work.
I don't know of any major benefit of using the same brand when using different sizes. Using the same size, yes, because you can set all the RPMs the same and expect the same noise and performance from each. I know a lot of people use slim fans in the NR200, so make sure your choice of fans actually will fit.
I may be doing an NR200 review sometime this spring, and I'll take a look at fan choices if I do.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Thanks for the reply. Ya I will be using 2x slim Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM fans as the bottom intake fans just underneath the 2.7 slot GPU I intend to get. Scythe Kaze Flex 120 Slim at 17mm can be an option too
I look forward to seeing your NR200 review
I saw in older reviews that the Arctic P series fans have audible motor noise at certain lower RPMs. Have you experienced this in your testing?
I gave you samples at three different RPMs. You can probably decide for yourself, but I think the answer is no.
NOCTUA NF-A14 vs Corsair AF140 vs p14 ? best low noise and low temps ?
Excellent test! Note that the Scythe rotates in the opposite direction to practically all other fans which opens up an interesting possibility - fan stacking. It's been tried in the past, but two stacked fans spinning in the same direction increases nothing but noise. Stacked *contra-rotating* fans produce double the pressure of a single one (but barely more flow). The Scythe and Noctua NF-A14 have almost identical blade configuration (although slightly different speeds, 1700RPM and 1500RPM) and could be used for this. As it happens I have the round frame version of the Scythe on the way (KF1425FD18-P) and the NF-A15 fan on my Noctua NH-U14S CPU Cooler is the round-frame version of the NF-A14 fan. Both are considerably lighter than the square versions, so the two of them hanging off one side of the cooler might be doable. I'm seriously tempted to try it out.
This counter-rotating effect is why the Scythe Fuma 2, which I've featured on the channel in dozens of videos, works so well despite its relatively small size and ultra-low noise levels. With a slim 120mm fan in the front and a standard 120mm Kaze Flex counter-rotating fan in the middle, it can compete with many 240mm AIO coolers. Your idea about the NF-U14S sounds good. You can of course control the RPMs of the Kaze Flex 140 and NF-A15 separately in order to match them, although they are not as similar as the blade designs would suggest, so I'm not sure that' necessary.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Interesting! I did think of mounting the Scythe on the back of the NH-U14S (it looks like the spare set of Noctua clips will work), but I assumed the fins on a CPU cooler work as vanes hence effectively turning any fan into a 'vane-axial', where the most of angular (spin/spiralling) motion of the air is deflected and converted into axial motion. If I try the stacked approach I'll make sure to report back - (could be useful if the summer here in the UK really heats up). Also, I've just remembered that I have an old Zalman reostat fan controller kicking about that I could use to tweak the speed of the Scythe down (and perhaps tune out any weird harmonics that might be set up between the two).
Hi Ari. How come you're not using the BioniX fans from ARCTIC instead of those older P and F fans?
Because the P fans are not older, and the BioniX fans are worse. They are strictly marketed for style. See this video to learn more: czcams.com/video/WBoLyC0tSDQ/video.html
Does the Thermaltake Toughfan 14 perform as well or better than the Toughfan 12 and Arctic P14?
Very likely better than the P14, definitely better than the TF12. Haven't tested it yet, just hit retail in the past few days: amzn.to/3aw7Vzx
I know it’s super overkill but I filled a PC 011 Air case with the P12 fans and my Vega has never ram cooler.
Do you think it would help temps if you remove the 120mm mounts on the front of the case? (trim the case for just the 2 140mm fans)
I certainly considered that the 120/140mm fan mounts block some of the airflow to the radiator when using 140mm fans. It might help slightly to dremel the case for use with 140mm fans, but that's not something I'd do for a review. I actually recommend that people top mount radiators, which would avoid the fan being blocked, but on the other hand would block exhaust out of the radiator due to the same issue. It's just something that's part of having multiple fan mounting options. You're going to block some air with 140mm fans, period. I think testing the way people actually use the product is probably the most reasonable thing to do.
I love that 500DX black version but it was out of stock everywhere here and i had go with Asus GT501
I just ordered a 5 pack of Artic P14 PWM/PST's. Been listening to the drone on my stock corsair fan for a while.
What's funny is my fans are so loud I couldn't hear the fan test on this video. I had to turn the volume up.
Funny, you should go back and watch this video after you've installed your new fans and see if you can hear the video any better!
@@TheTechBuyersGuru OOOh now I'm really eager to. I was always told the stock corsair fans on corsair AIO's are decent working, but always on the louder side.
Its amazing that the fans on my 3080 at 70%-75% are less audible than my corsair stock fans at around 35%.
I was thinking of doing some Noctua's, and I'm sure the Noc's are awesome, but at around $30/fan and I needed 2, vs. $37/5 pack of P14's and its great performance is hard to pass up. I watched all 3 of your videos and subscribed. It was exactly what I was looking for.
Is it possible that you review the gammaxx 400ex, gammaxx gte v2?
I wish you could link your blog in the description. I cannot seem to find your post on the web, please do ☺
That's because I haven't posted it yet. CZcams gets it first!
I have a question regarding static pressure:
I have a Corsair 4000D Airflow, which has a fine mesh filter in front of the frontal intake fans, to filter out dust. Is static pressure only important if there is something behind the fans, or is it significant as well, when there is resistance from the direction where air is sucked in from?
Specifically I am wondering if airflow fans or static pressure fans are best for the Corsair 4000D Airflow frontal intake fan scenario, or similarly build cases.
I am not even sure, if there is data on that :D
The filter certainly counts as static pressure, and most quality cases have a filter like that. But I have found that pure static pressure fans still don't excel in that application. Here's my case fan shootout: czcams.com/video/PUdsTiRmuuU/video.html
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Nice! Thanks for the quick response :)
So my question is, is filtered intake on a case more like a radiator? Should I use a radiator fan with a really restrictive air filter. Is a case fan still okay for a less restrictive air filter like simple wire screen? Please tell me, I need to know!
The think about the Arctic P-series is that they are technically radiator fans, but perform incredibly well as case fans too, which means you don't have to choose one or the other! - amzn.to/3pgNaNP
And no, an air filter should not be as restrictive as a radiator. If it is, take it off!
Hey Guru I have a few questions! So I've been watching, and loving your videos! I'm planning to get a new cooler soon and thanks to your reviews I've settled on the scythe Fuma 2. After watching all your fan shootouts I've decided to update my case fans to the arctic p14's. My question for you, do the p14's fit on the Fuma 2? And if they do are temps any lower using arctic fans over scythe's own fans on the Fuma 2? If the p14's don't fit do the p12's fit? And same, are temps any cooler using article fans?
I'd love to combine the arctic fans and scythe cooler to get the best of both worlds if it does make a difference. If not I'll stick to scythe fans on the cooler and just use the p14's for the case! Thanks in advance!
You can't use 140mm fans on the Fuma 2, and it's unlikely that using Arctic 120mm fans on the Fuma 2 would improve the performance due to the unique vortex flow of the Scythe fans (they spin in opposite directions). Also, the front fan is a slim fan, so using an Arctic fan would mean some RAM slots would be blocked. I recommend you just use the Fuma 2 as is!
@@TheTechBuyersGuru awesome thanks a bunch!!
can u add the phanteks sk140 fan to the benchmark?
Can you please test out the Alpenföhn White RGB 120 or 140 mm fan. It's a super good looking fan in a nice finish and would love to see how it performs.
I will probably be doing an RGB fan roundup next year, at which point I will certainly ask for a sample!
Had a feeling the P14 would come out on top. Would it be worth replacing my Lian Li 140mm case fans that came with my case with them or probably not worth the extra cost over fans I already have?
Not if the noise and performance is satisfactory to you right now. I have no doubt the P14 fans are better, but unless the Lian Li fans are causing you trouble due to excessive noise or insufficient cooling, it's not worth replacing them right away, maybe at your next system upgrade!
I was thinking about Arctic P14 vs Noctua NF-A14 2000pwm, highly wanted buy the Noctua one, but now I think Arctic are better? CPU - R9 5900X
Which cooler?
Hol' upm does the Kaze spin clockwise? And I do like the thrum of those arctic fans.
Oh and the Tough fans aren't great for case fans. Quite nice though.
Yes, Scythe Kaze Flex fans are oriented in mirror image of most fans, so they spin clockwise.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru woah, thats cool. Seeing as some gpus are spinning the middle fan in reverse because... reasons! maybe 3 120s in the font of a case with the middle in reverse will have some benefit. Probably not but might be another video =)
Excellent video. How did you know I wanted a fan placement video? You read my mind. You should make that a 2-4 parter, because there are already simple versions on youtube, but nothing in depth like i'm expecting you will make.
I'm still thinking about how I'll run it. I'll probably try to keep it to one video, but I do have to choose the configuration options wisely, because the number of combinations is nearly infinite!
@@TheTechBuyersGuru You could possibly do an arctic setup one week and noctua the next. Budget v top end.
Yeah, except which is the budget and which is the top end when it comes to performance? ;)
@@TheTechBuyersGuru I'm a physicist (for my sins), so I will try to strip it back for you. The purpose of fans is for cooling. Ergo you should investigate the source of heating, namely cpu, gpu and vrm's. You could do this by running cpu at 100%, gpu at 0% and variations thereof. Then use this info to offer an opinion on fan placement. I think we all know the outcome of the video already, so it is the journey to the endpoint that matters. Hope this helps.
I would love a retest of the 120 and 140 Arctic Bionix fans, they are the only ones that have 140mm available in white. In the first test you did with them I couldn't hear the fan noise as the mic was placed too close and got a lot of wind noise. It is currently the only review of it on youtube so I have no other way of finding this out. Also BTW, great video!
The BioniX fans are too loud. I won't retest them using my improved test methodology because I know what they actually sound like to my ears! But if Arctic releases a white version of the P14 PWM, you may have your solution.... and I have a "feeling" they're going to release these soon! By the way, perhaps you know that the P12 PWM is already available in white, which gives you an idea of what the P14 white will look like: amzn.to/3jw6nb3
Hi, I saw your video about this but can you do with the Wonder Snail cause I am interested seeing between the performance between Kaze Flex and the Wonder Snail. As always your video are nice to watch !
This may answer some of your questions: czcams.com/video/ERN61VyqDGA/video.html
Basically, the Wonder Snail 120 is equivalent to the Noctua NF-A12x25. Probably about as powerful on a radiator as the Kaze Flex 140, but far better than the Kaze Flex 120, which is only good for cases.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Thanks for the wonderful video again! Curious question, if I am going to pick a radiator fan but with RGB. Do you think the Artic Bionix P120 ARGB can be a substitute for the P12 ARGB as those cant be found in my country. Loves from Malaysia!
The Bionix P120 is a good choice, but note that the initial shipments did not include radiator screws, and you need them because the fans are a bit thicker than normal and screws included with rads won't work. If you can get them in a store where you are, you might be able to open the box to check them out. The P12 A-RGB fans have just launched, so if you can wait a bit, they will also be available worldwide.
@@TheTechBuyersGuru OMG, Thank you so much with your detailed explanation !!! This is the first ever tech youtube channel that I have came across that give a honest and good feedback !!! Thanks again and I appreciate all of your videos ! Keep it up !!
Awesome fan comparison as usual ;)
Arctic really has some killer fans with the P12/P14 series.
Great perf/$, 10 year warranty, great performance overall.
Just a shame, the Liquid Freezer II has only 2 years warranty which is a no go for me.
I hear you on that - warranties are important with liquid coolers. I'll mention that to them!
@@TheTechBuyersGuru Thanks, i appreciate that!
So the Artic P12 would work as an all purpose fan? Radiator, intake, exhaust?
Yes, it's the only all-purpose fan I've tested.
It'd be good to include the Be Quiet Silent Wings 3 120mm and 140mm fans in next year's shootout?
I tested the 120mm in my first fan shootout and didn't name it a winner. Here's the video: czcams.com/video/W2Zis8RjcX8/video.html
The fan is high quality and has a pleasing tone, but it is not a high performance offering.
10 minutes into this very-enjoyable video, staring at the dB-normalized bar graph with a bowl of cereal, I suddenly sit back. There is a difference of 2 degrees between the best and worst of these fans; and I am truly a nerd. LOL. 🙂
Glad you enjoyed it! Remember, these are all good fans... I got tired of testing bad ones, and luckily, I already know which ones those are. ;)
@@TheTechBuyersGuru I love this type of content when I am ramping up for a new project. It is part of the fun of a new PC. Sadly, I'm not building one this time-just such a bad time for it-but I love SFF, so I finally settled on a prebuilt NZXT H1.
But even with a prebuilt, I don't think I'd ever leave stock fans in a chassis, so I have found something fun to do researching replacements for the 140mm fan on the AIO (the only fan in that chassis, in case you maybe didn't care much about the H1).
I have a pile of ToughFan 12s, and I have been trying to decide whether I should use one of those or opt for an A12x25 Chromax. Or maybe an Arctic P14 ARGB-less resonant *moan* on the ARGB version, I've heard?-so, I'm curious to know what you think. 🤔