The Science of the Afterlife | Jimmy Akin Takes Your Calls LIVE
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In this episode, we take live calls from skeptical viewers on whether the evidence from deathbed visions, NDEs, and after death communications suggests that we humans survive physical death.
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Sent in a one-time donation, not even Catholic and I love you guys. GBY
We are a big community, we can do this. We need to support our own. Signing up for $10 a month to start, going through a life change but will see how much more I can give.
I'm pleased with the direction of Capturing Christianity, especially with Jimmy coming on board and helping with fundraising, etc. I'm a long-time supporter via Patreon, but it's an annual subscription. Now, I'm signing up for the $25 per month tier on DonorBox because I believe in what Cameron is doing! And I'll leave the annual Patreon subscription ON.
Also, these call-in shows should be regular on the channel, like once per month.
God bless you!
All the comments calling into question “science of Afterlife” need to understand the definition of science is simply,
“systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.”
So study into this phenomenon is valid to be referred to as “science of the afterlife”. The University of Virginia school of Medicine has an entire study program on the topic, this is a secular scientific research program.
There are indeed university studies that try to reproduce these phenomena under controlled conditions. So by that measure there is a science of the afterlife. The part you leave out is that the actual experiments fail to produce anything compelling. Luckily the peer reviewed papers about this stuff do volunteer the uniform failure of research to affirm this kind of phenomena. I'd be personally thrilled to hear robust evidence for this but it never materializes. It's always the same package of sifted anecdotes and manipulative psychology.
“The Theist Experience“ Instantly better in every way than the alternative.
Amen. Less anger and cursing 😆
I'm a pagan with a bias in favour of Catholics. Jimmy Akin is amazing. Especially his work on weird world and parapsychology.
You should become a Catholic then. There is only death outside of the body of Christ.
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indeed unfortunately most of it is religious nonsense..amen
@@johnpro2847 I don't think Catholicism is religious nonsense. My tribe has all kinds of beliefs people might call "nonsense". Unlike Catholics we don't accept converts. In fact we don't preach or anything to anyone although we'll be friends with anyone. Just let everyone be.
@brycepardoe658 I'm intrigued as to how a Pagan can have a bias towards any form of Christianity, except just Christian culture? I'm sorry. God loves everyone.
I really like the way Jimmy Akin pronounces Pop 😅👍
Glad to see a call in show. Hope in the future they accept non video callers. Would love to see it become a kind of opposite “Atheist Experience”. Best of luck Cam!
Wow, what a concept. A call-in show for Christians. What's next, horseless carriages and indoor plumbing?
@@highroller-jq3ixNice one, you for sure got them.
Perhaps the fact that the calls are with video improves the quality of the calls by reducing anonymity and false callers.
yeah these call ins seemed pre organized. This isn't the "call in" I had in mind. I hope to one day see this call in come into the lions den.
@@lastnamefirstname850 Nice one. You for sure got me with kindergarten sentence mechanics.
I love that Jimmy slipped around 2:05:00 and said something about the evidence we saw in "today's episode" since he did an episode on this topic recently. Very happy to participate into that although I don't know why it is so joyous to have capture this moment.
I became a tier two subscriber. I wish you the best of luck. God bless you many times over , your family, and your work.
My Dad had an ADC. My Grandpa died and at that moment my Dad woke up from a deep sleep and my Grandpa told my Dad "I'm gone". My Dad told me they talked about other things. When my uncle came to my Dad and Mom's door, my Dad told my Uncle "Dad's gone". When my Mom and Dad passed it was a hard time for me and I was being a jerk to my wife, my Dad came into my Dream and had a long talk with me about how I was acting and to stop it. My Dad's presence stayed with me for six months and when I was going to the bus he told me goodbye, to rely on God, and treat my wife the right way always.
Thanks!
Jimmy is the best tbh
Love this Cam, keep doing it.
God bless!!!
Dang it I was at work when this was live, missed it by an hour 😢
Thanks Cameron 😊
Did Cameron ever convert to Catholicism?
Yes last year
@@barbarathomas9047 Praise God!!!
@@barbarathomas9047is there a video on it
@@A-ARonYeagerCheck out Cameron’s interview with Matt Fradd on Pints with Aquinas.
@Ruudes1483 will do thanks. Ik he said about 2 years ago he was making a probability meter for the papacy, did he release that?
Jimmy looks good in purple
Gingers usually do 😊
Cameron, I think you’d raise a lof of money if you had WLC on to debate Ehrman. Two hours with a committment to answer super chats, which will be off after a certain time.
Or a 3 way dialogue between Akin, Stephen Braude, and Michael Sudduth on afterlife evidence.
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Ps I love the Pat Flynn book and was just recommending it to a doubter earlier today. The funny thing is that his book is less brainy than he initially wanted it to be (publishers...), yet is still top tier philosophy!
I'd be happy to do a discussion with Braude and Sudduth! In fact, I know Mike and once took a class from him!
Can a small business advertise on this channel?
Did someone call on the edgy internet atheists to brigade this video? Why are almost all the comments negative, mocking, and snobby? Really odd.
Curious but this channel w Patreon must make decent money
Someone needs to clip jimmy’s Indian accent.. too good
Fascinating stuff, I am into NDEs that feature some sort of evidence beyond the vision itself. Still, people of every culture and religion have NDEs and experience love and lose their fear of death, and even wanted to stay on the "other side." So you don't need Christian beliefs and doctrines to be true to feel such love and lose your fear of death. And if the Christian God wanted to prove Christianity was the only true religion, then God could have ensured NDEs all pointed only to Christianity, or led to belief in Christianity by the person who experiences Near Death visions. But they don't. Also, memory of having experienced an NDE is relatively rare among the large number of people who have been revived after their hearts have stopped.
You don’t know the extent to which NDEs truly represent the afterlife. Makes sense it’s just a glimpse and if you listen to the NDE of Bryan Melvin he said what thought initially was heaven turned out to be anything but. So why discount his experience and favor others?
27:19 Actual starting of the interviews
Congrats, Cameron with new baby
That shroud of Turin Jesus sculpture is beautiful! Can someone tell me how exactly the Patreon works? Do I buy the $50 subscription and I put in my address or is there something in particular I have to do? Thanks.
I had the same question. I hope they update the Patreon page with that information.
All you have to do is sign up at the $50 tier on patreon, and we'll reach out to you directly (on Patreon) to organize shipping, etc. Thanks for your interest!
Man, I'm an agnostic, but I would support if I could.
Even if LAP is involved in NDEs et al, the fact that the ESP veridical observations occur alongside of afterlife "perceptions" in a unified seamless event needs to be taken seriously. So if LAP grants them information about earthly affairs, arguably, it also gives us information about extra Earthly affairs
Would love to see Jimmy make a video on the afterlife.. curious if would have any resemblance to descriptions by Tom Campbell, Luis Minero, Matías De Stefano, Swami Kriyananda, Emanuel Swedenborg , Jurgen Ziewe, Pulkit Mathur/Spiritual-Bee.
The great Slavoj Zizek, talks about how philosophy is not to provide answers, but to get to the right questions to ask. And because there is good evidence* on ways to interact with entities in another dimension using Physical-Mediumship / apports, or Electronic-Voice-Phenomena..
(* Eusapia Palladino , Franek Kluski , Daniel Dunglas Home , Mina Crandon, Eleonora Zugun, Eva Carrière / Schrenck-Notzing , Gladys Osborne Leonard , Alec Harris , Linda Gazzera (as reported by Charles Richet), Florence Cook (Sir William Crookes), the Scole Experiments, Géza Maróczy )
if one could communicate to the other side by only asking yes / no questions, what would be the line of questions that would best help explain the nature of life/death/consciousness? Would love to hear questions that Bernado Kastrup, Sean Esbjörn-Hargens , Greg Bishop , Jacque Vallee, Jeff Kripal , Jeffrey Mishlove, and Robert Kuhn would ask!
For example, so much of who you are, temperament/mannerism/personality are biological in nature.. genetics, hormones, brain wiring, gut bugs, etc, to say nothing of spirit-possessions. Therefore how much agency and free-will do you have in order to be said that you are responsible for your karma?
You often hear about NDEs that get asked if they want to come back or not.. and other times, they are not given the choice and are told they have to come back. Who are the 'Spirit Guides' (or maybe Higher-Self) that is doing the asking/deciding? And after you die for good, what determines if in your next life you come back as a bacteria , a stray dog, or as an alien on another planet? The 2010 movie, Astral-City has an interesting take where the other realm is much like here, including jobs, bureaucracy, etc! And when an alien dies, does their afterlife look the same or share the same dimension as when a human dies? How about for dogs and insects?
And how do ghosts fit into the picture, lingering and interacting in our physical space? Some ghosts seem to be positive forces that intervene to help.. while others are nasty and dangerous. Callum Cooper , Hans Holzer, Gaurav Tiwari, have some good data.
And when you reincarnate you have a new set of people as your family, so what is our relationship with each other, and our family (ex. mother, father) from all our previous lives in the after-life? Are all relationships temporary, and irrelevant after a few reincarnations?
What about the theory proposed by many (Paul Wallis , Neil Freer , Jason , Reza Jorjani, Robert Monroe's Loosh etc ) that earth is a prison planet.. the end-of-life light that one sees upon death, is actually a trap! It's used by higher energy beings (reptilian in nature) in order to draw us in, harvest our energy, and cause us to reincarnate in an endless loop. There was a good episode of the Why Files "Aliens Harvesting Human Souls"
Whatever unified model explains the nature of reality should be able to explain all the above and more.. reincarnation, biology/free-will/karma, NDE/Ghosts, channeling/medium, premonition, remote-viewing, time-slips, alien consciousness, etc! For me, it would be nice to know if there is ever a point when you stop having a personal unique experience, and merge into the oneness. The idea that you will be conscious and experiencing for eternity seems like a bad deal.
Regarding the caller mentioning Ecclesiastes, that was true at the time it was written. That was before heaven was accessible and opened by Christ. Back then it was true that everyone went to limbo (Sheol/hades) and didn’t know what was happening on earth
Jimmy, when you talked about Cockney English and the glottal stops in phrases like "little bottle," my first thought was Andrew Tate's "Bugah - i" (Bugatti) 😂
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A question I don't think anyone has directly addressed: _Why should it be_ that, in NDEs, structural brain-damage or lack of brain-waves does _not,_ by _itself,_ seem to "disengage" the spiritual soul from the body to trigger an NDE, but mere _heart stoppage_ (with a fully-intact brain) does?
It seems to me that "brain death" and "non-beating heart" are both revealed to be bad standards for a person being _dead,_ if NDEs are really caused by a person being in a "temporarily dead" state, and if the standard we'd like to have for declaring a person dead requires them being _permanently_ dead. Instead, Terminal Lucidity of persons with severe brain-damage suggests that the brain, as transducer, can be in _bad shape_ yet still be sufficiently-functional to maintain the "connection" to the immaterial soul ...provided that the heart doesn't stop. But a brief heart-stoppage with no structural brain-damage seems to be able to cut that connection very quickly.
I hope Jimmy digs into this more deeply.
His Indian accent 👏👏👏🤣 bravo
Why not I’m genuinely curious
Content starts at 14:20
Selling idols too?!
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I was told that the ancient Greeks believed in the soul/ghosts, while Ancient Hebrew believed in Spirit (Given by Jesus) and body but no ghostly soul like the Greeks?
Well if that was true why did the disciples try to get Jesus to eat? Because they thought ghosts couldn't eat because they didn't have bodies. So just from that I conclude they believed in ghosts without bodies as the norm if someone was to appear after their death.
What do you think?
@billie5057 Greek is the culture of influence at Jesus time. Before the Greeks with 'ghost' came, I heard that the concept of a soul was something like 'neck' and 'being'.
We would say 6 head of cattle, they would say 6 'necks'. We would say I devote my entire head to toe to Christ, they would say I devote my neck.
Is this a Catholic channel or is it a christian one?
Catholicism is christianity.
Jimmy US $ are expensive fir overseas viewers and my cointry's banks charge a fee for overseas transactions
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Can someone tell me how the current pope or bad pope's in history don't disprove the papacy or papal incorruptibity
Does a bad christian disprove christianity? Does a bad priest disprove the priesthood?
I'd rather ask you how a Pope's personal sin has any bearing on whether the office he occupies is legitimate and unblemished.
Remember how Jesus acknowledged that the pharisees legitimately sat in the seat of Moses, even when they were corrupt and planning to kill him. Even then, Jesus said to listen to what they tell you, but do not do as they do because they are hypocrites. So it is with bad popes. Listen to their magisterium, but do not act as they do.
Third comment for ocd and traction.
54:30
Father!?
Yes, son, it's me. You're in heaven.
Was that Hitler I just saw?!
No, no, we're uh, we're having a costume party, now come along to the light
Obligatory engagement boost comment
You don't need to "receive the Eucharist". You need to receive/accept salvation by repentance etc.
The meal was an updated passover tradition given to us as a way of coming together to remember Jesus by. As the passover meal remembered the death that lead to a type of salvation was remembered by the Jewish community.
The death of Christ is the fulfilment of what was hinted at in the old Testament.
The Eucharist/communion is not essential to salvation. Repentance and acceptance of the gift of salvation is.
Just saying.
But irreversibility is always pushed more and more and whet if we will be able to restore hugely damaged brain or body ? Maybe regrow and restart a biological function by restoring most part of body ? Then when you are dead ?
How that a soul is seeing only a light in same wave length as normal body does? Do soul have retina? How soul can know what is down and up ? This is very specific only on bodies which are developed here on this small sphere called Earth. Otherwise you dont feel this feelings
As a biblical scholar I don’t listen to every or any programs about NDEs. Most are new age. Randy Kay’s channel is a channel that is pure Christian that presents NDEs from a biblical context. We must take every experience line up with the Word of God. Some experiences are demonic. No exceptions. But when the Muslims talk about Allah that Allah is not the God of Christians and Jews. I have read the Koran and it is a horrible book of Muslims rules and demonic.
You done gone threw Christ before you get heaven . When you bow your knees and except Christ . Well that's going threw Christ to the father
THE most hilarious quote from this video:
”Afterlife related research works the same way as the literature in physics or chemistry.”
Ooookay. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I got onto CZcams in the mood for some comedy. The notification for this video sidetracked me. But you guys actually delivered the laughs anyway! Thanks!
Have you read the research? And their methods? Or are you just making sarcastic comments with no substance?
@@MarcoAntoniov. I'm far from an expert, but I've read a few things. At most, what can be said is some people have psychological experiences around the time their brains are shutting down and/or recovering from a shutdown. Many of these experiences have similar, but not necessarily identical, qualities to experiences people have while suffering oxygen deprivation, taking mind-altering drugs, and the like. No strong or reproducible evidence has ever emerged showing these experiences occur while there is zero brain activity. No strong or reproducible evidence has ever emerged showing out-of-body experiences really occur. This is all fine. We're basically in the realm of psychology and/or medicine. Studying how the brain responds, and people’s psychological experiences while they are near death are perfectly valid forms of scientific investigation. (Although, we should note that both psychology and medicine are fields that have been shown to have serious and systemic replication issues.)
However, once you label something "afterlife" research you’ve stepped into the realm of pseudoscience. Why? Because there is absolutely no evidentiary or theoretical foundation for positing an afterlife. There is no solid, reproducible evidence showing mental states exist in the absence of life. The afterlife hypothesis offers no well-defined or predictive theoretical model describing how these purported disembodied minds function, where they reside, how they interact within some "other realm," or how they interact with the physical universe. The afterlife hypothesis is a completely hollow, ill-defined, and baseless assertion. That's why it's not science.
If anyone could offer compelling evidence or solid theoretical foundations for an afterlife beyond what I've outlined here, I guarantee they would be shouting it from every rooftop. Meanwhile, I won't hold my breath (lest I have an NDE) as I wait for my mind to be blown by all the forthcoming breakthroughs.
Regarding the comparison to physics and chemistry, as soon as Jimmy presents some 5-sigma afterlife results, then I'll stop laughing.
@@MarcoAntoniov. **I don’t know if this is a duplicate post, but as far as I can see, some of my comments are disappearing**
I'm far from an expert, but I've read a few things. At most what can be said is some people have psychological experiences around the time their brains are shutting down and/or recovering from a shutdown. Many of these experiences have similar, but not necessarily identical, qualities to experiences people have while suffering oxygen deprivation, taking mind-altering substances, and the like. No strong or reproducible evidence has ever emerged showing these experiences occur while there is zero brain activity. No strong or reproducible evidence has ever emerged showing out-of-body experiences are real. So, far we're basically in the realm of psychology and/or medicine. Studying how the brain responds and people's psychological experiences while they are near death is a perfectly valid form of scientific investigation. (Although, we should note that psychology is one of the fields shown to have serious and systemic replication issues.)
However, once you label anything "afterlife" research you've gone into pure pseudoscience. Why? Because there is absolutely no evidentiary or theoretical foundation for posting an afterlife. There is no solid, reproducible evidence showing mental states exist in the absence of life. The afterlife hypothesis offers no well-defined or predictive theoretical model describing how these purported disembodies minds function, where they reside, or how they interact within some "other realm" or how they interact with the physical universe. The afterlife hypothesis is a completely hollow, ill-defined, and baseless assertion. That's why it's not science.
If anyone could offer compelling evidence or solid theoretical foundations for an afterlife beyond what I've outlined here, I guarantee they would be shouting it from every rooftop. Meanwhile, I won't hold my breath (lest I have an NDE) as I wait to be astonished by the forthcoming breakthroughs.
Regarding the comparison to physics and chemistry, as soon as Jimmy provides 5-sigma afterlife results, I'll stop laughing.
@@MarcoAntoniov. the latter.
Great pitch for the modern "snake oil salesmen" atleast the thanking gifts are not oil covered pieces of cloth wit h"blessings".
Parapsychology? Psychokinesis? Not sure if I just watched an episode of the Twilight Zone or the X-Files.
Look into it with an open mind, there are peer reviewed published papers on the matter
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription "Keep an open mind but not so open that your brain falls out."
-- Richard Feynman
@@markgordon5266 Good quote by Richard Feinman. But will you look at it with an open mind or is it just an excuse to hand wave away the research that has been made on this kinds of topics?
@@MarcoAntoniov. It's not an excuse, it's the proper approach to pseudoscience.
@@markgordon5266 I understand what you are saying. But you haven't provided any reason to dispute the evidence presented by Jimmy in this video and classifiy it as pseudoscience. That's my point, to quote Feimann and calling it a day it's not a good argument nor does it make your position seem more plausible.
Do people come back to life.>.Short answer No ..just wishful thinking..amen
Science of the afterlife! 😂😂😂 You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The definition of Science is simply “systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.”
So study into this phenomenon is valid to be referred to as “science of the afterlife” University of Virginia school of Medicine has an entire study program on the topic, this is a secular scientific research program.
I think you do not know what science means nor the different areas of scientific inquiry. Or do you not believe psychology is a science?
@@RandallChase1 One of the universities near me has a department that researches naturopathic "medicine." Should we then consider homeopathy or crystal healing as science? Do you consider all the past lives memories research done in India to be serious science? I don't.
@@johnbrion4565 Afterlife research attempts to do one leg of scientific investigation: record data. And the data it records is almost universally subjective and anecdotal. Many of these subjective experiences occur when people are in states of bodily trauma. So, we’re already on very shaky ground. Does afterlife research compensate for this by supplying replicable experiments? No. Does afterlife research compensate by offering well-defined and predictive theoretical models for how these purported disembodied minds function, where they reside, or how they interact? No.
So, no, afterlife research doesn’t rise to the level of even the most rudimentary form of scientific investigation. It doesn’t rise to the level of psychology or medicine, themselves having serious replicability issues. And it absolutely does not rise to the level of physics or chemistry as Jimmy Akin laughably suggested.
The scientific method can be applied to all types of inquiries - such as when, how, and why people employ mockery to try to advance their argument.
Accepting anecdotal stories at face value doesn't seem very scientific, but I suppose people can do science differently.
Parapsychology is pseudoscience.
Parapsychology is pseudoscience.
It's step 1 of the scientific method, observation. Until you produce a testable and falsifiable theory that is verified in multipme labs, you're not done with science, but hey we gotta start somewhere!
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription Well, I guess just about everything falls into that step; alien abduction, Bigfoot, ghosts, astral projection, flat earth, fake moon landing, reincarnation, and anything else we observe people saying. It doesn't seem quite right to call all those ideas and many more "scientific", but if the bar is a low one, I guess we could. I'm not sure it hurts anything.
@@madmax2976 any pain-related science is based solely on what you categorise as anecdotes. Should we throw all that out as well?
Can Jimmy afford razor blades ?
"Science of the afterlife"? The science of the supernatural. You are making yourself ridiculous!
"I decided you're wrong before listening to you and now that you're talking I need to insult you to feel less insecure about my illogical worldview"
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription I confess that I made the comment before listening to the whole video. To my defense I would say that the title should be an apt description of the content of the video. A question mark after the title would have stopped me.
But I will watch the whole video and come back here. As a scientist and philosopher of science myself, I do know what science is all about. Btw, I am also a Catholic.
There are lots of medical researchers on this phenomenon. As Jimmy said the book after by Bruce Greyson at university of Virginia is a good start.
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription Update on my previous comment - I did watch a whole hour of this video. Same conclusion, this is not science. Science deals with physical phenomena in the physical universe. This includes quantum fields and other weird things we can't get our brains around, things we can only express mathematically. But the supernatural is, by definition, outside the discipline of science.
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription So, there has been some amazing discovery in afterlife research that didn’t make global news and rock the scientific world? Are we wrong in presupposing that all that’s going to be offered are the same old anecdotal near-death type experiences? You know, the experiences that always seem to align with whatever religious stories the person having them has heard their whole lives.
These guys are worshipping religion. I get it, we all want certainty, but appeals to religious authority is living in the old covenant
Jimi akin taking complete control of this channel. Disgusting.
I’m not a fan of Jimmy Akin and his view on other apologetic channels. I’m sorry, but this channel is not the only quality channel on the subject nor does it stand out for being so distinctly different. This channel offers the same content as the others I follow. So his view on this is probably the biggest problem with this channel.
Where was the actual science part? Time stamp please.
@@M3Etasmaniachampion of bad faith arguments and strawmans I see.
@@M3EtasmaniaWhat do you mean? The video is full of Jimmy discussing the evidence for the afterlife
I think you don’t know what science means.
@@johnbrion4565 science is when nerdy guys in lab coats look at test tubes and microscopes
@@Fiddleslip it seems so
When was the last time you memorized a serial number? Here I am dead with a bright white light heading in my direction, so I will just memorize this here serial number, really?
maybe he didn't have the bright light, he just had an out-of--body experience. Anyone quick on their feet would look for something that could then be used to confirm to themselves and to others that this experience is real.
It’s just what the guy told me. Sure he could be lying. But apparently it’s been documented by other researchers. The guy said he could see the medical personnel running the code. Maybe he thought to remember it precisely so that he could check and see after if his experience was real.
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Thank you for all you do.Huge fan of your channel and Jimmy Akin as well God bless
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