Testing Cheap vs Expensive Screwdrivers
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Why would someone spend 25 times the money on a screwdriver? Today we tried to find out.
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Floor jacks!! So many comparisons could be made and I can only imagine the kind of testing you will put it through!
Yes please!
Good idea dude
@@turboman12 ProLift brand jack stands are a good brand from experience, the pair was able to hold up a Ford expedition at one end and a jack on the other with weight on the jack stand end. I use them all the time for my needs
Did you not just see Jobe almost end up in the hospital testing a screwdriver? You want these guys to test 6000 lb jacks to failure? Are you trying to kill somebody? 🤣
@@Psyco913 the ultimate test!
This has become probably my favourite show on Donut... The chemistry these 2 have is amazing just like James and Nolan and most of the info is super useful not just entertainment... Keep up the good work! Love it!
Same
Agree
Yeah too bad I don't use a wallet or even contemplate buying parts from ebay motors and neither should you
Zach and his Miata helped me through the pandemic
Loved it the minute they start making videos together
Fascinating watching y'all rediscover a century+ of safety regs over the course of this series.
certain people only really learn by putting their hand in the fire.
@@prothstein You know what they say; chicks dig scars.
@@Owen2108 my scars are numerous and but the chicks are few.
@@claytonno2571 Maybe he meant baby birds.
I ran out and bought that set of Doyles after seeing this video and have not been disappointed. They also come with Harbor Freight’s lifetime warranty (which Pittsburgh does not, I believe). Great value for money
They are sleepers for sure.
Pittsburgh does have a lifetime warranty. You can even see it on the package in the beginning of the video in the top left corner.
We've had the LockPickingLawyer call out and the Legal Eagle crossover, I think it's time we get ProjectFarm in on this. These are right up his alley.
PF tests are the best! That guy truely cares
Project farm is the OG. The donut guys are my guys so I’m not mad.
He does do screwdrivers if I remember correctly
Yeah, ProjectFarm is far more controlled and logical in his tests. The 'Tool Party' tests here are amusing, but PF for real consumer advice.
"Time to mow the garage again"
The irony of the Klein winning the hammer test and being an electrician favored tool brand is hilarious 😂 everything is a hammer
Maybe it's intentional so that people buy more when they break a tool using it how it probably warns against using?
Real electricians never carry hammers, they have lineman's pliers for hammering things... or screwdrivers 🤣
And the whole world looks like a nail
It's that beefy insulated handle..😉
Sparky here Klein diehard also. If klein stuff breaks bring it in, it's replaced.
It’s nice to see huskey being competitive at the low price point. Especially with the lifetime warranty from Home Depot so you can always just get a new one
I always think thats a benefit of husky and craftsman. You break a premium tool, you have to wait for a truck to show up and pray they have a replacement on hand. You break a husky tool and I can literally drive over on a break, grab one off the shelf, and get back to work within 15 minutes.
Same with mastercraft here in Canada, lifetime warranty, you break it “oh shit, oh wait I can just drive on over to the store and get a new one”
Husky is an awesome brand, hf has a brand that’s just as good for slightly less, compare it with the quinn up close and you’ll see what i mean.
Nearly all of harbor freights hand tools have a lifetime warranty too. Even the pittsburghs in this video.
Huskies been amazing for me and so has their return policy
As an electrician I gotta say Klein tools quality as gone severely down hill in the last few years. Have gone through 4-5 cabinet tips due to the tips bending… putting cover plate screws on.
I have some old Klein tools that have been in my bag for almost 15 years and they are good. Some old jman2000 side cutters and linesmans and they rock. And an old beater blade (size 8 I think?) and it’s great. But I have bought some newer Klein’s and they twist, dull, and just suck in general. I’ve given up on Klein and now I buy Wera or Knipex tools. Knipex water pump (slip joint) pliers are top notch. Wera screwdrivers grip tighter than anything else I’ve found. Expensive though.
I am an Electrician too. I have also noticed the same thing
You guy forget life time warranty
@@seantullo5857it's nice that they replace them but for a tool you use often it must be a hassle to always need to replace the whole set for the ones that keep breaking
We got Klein tools in at Lowe’s recently, and I noticed one of their main screwdriver sets has a typo in the rubber of all the screwdrivers I saw.
I know that doesn’t exactly speak of the quality of the tool but it was funny to notice
For the "hammer" test if feels like it would be better to test how they treat a sudden and harsh impact. Like say, putting them in a tube covering the bottom 50% and dropping a weight on the handles from a fixed height.
Agreed
Or using an actual hammer/sledgehammer ??
100% agree. I only buy drivers with a metal cap on the end specifically for hammering.
or at least base it on the amount of force it took to break... you can break anything with enough force... the question is how much...
I was just about to write this. Or maybe set it up in a power hammer and see how many strikes it can take at a certain force before it's no longer usable.
The ones that snapped the steel has a higher carbon content making them less likely to strip but more likely to snap as the steel is harder.
This.
But still, Snap Off is a hilarious joke to make
That's exactly what I was thinking, just because it snaped instead of bent doesn't make it worse if that's just how the tool would react anyway
yes the test is stupid if the force is not measured
@@jonassalazar9419 Well, a bent tool is still usable
As a car tech that works at a dealership, id love to see more brands compared to snap on. Snap tools are extremely expansive so I never buy them, but iv alway been interested to see if they are worth the money. But after seeing a couple of these videos, i can already tell they are not worth the money
This really depends on the specific tool. I've got a huge mix of everything from snap on to cheap Chinese stuff to vintage British tools. Their sockets, wrenches, and ratchets are well worth it in my opinion. After that, it depends how much you value single point purchasing and their warranty, as well as the service your driver gives you.
from experience I can tell you that their wrenches and hand ratchets are good (over priced still imo) and their battery operated power tools are a joke(some only have a one year warranty), constantly getting beat out by much much cheaper brands. their pneumatic stuff seems decent from what I've used. the only things I've bought personally are a flashlight and a couple pocket knifes, any specialty tool they carry seems to be way to over priced, but maybe I'm just poor.
My rule for snap on and other expensive brands is if you hold it in your hand but the good one, if it’s a socket buy whatever. If it’s electric don’t buy snap on.
@@berylbell8452 for anything battery operated can't go wrong with Milwaukee I've had good luck with my rigid as well
Sockets ratchets and wrenches are 100% worth the money
Warranties on these tools would be a huge factor for me. As an electrician I tend to lean towards a certain brand. They have a lifetime warranty and I can go to Home Depot and swap them out with no hassle. Both Klein and husky have a hassle free warranty exchange. I know snap on tools have a warranty that is lifetime too but the exchange or repair period for them is a hassle to do.
As someone who uses Klein tools daily at work, I'm surprised they did as well as they did considering how many I've personally snapped in half.
Also I'm again reminded how much of a rip off snap on is.
I call bullshit depending on the line of work your in I highly doubt you’ve ever even broke a single screwdriver in half. Your likely to strip the screw or driver before you snap it in any line of work. This test is completely impractical considering the work and force you’ll be putting on the screw drivers. I’ve worked construction for 13 years of my life and I’ve yet to see a screw driver snap in half before striping and totally lose of function.
@@jacobjennings6251 linesman. And I'm talking nut drivers, they are hollow, I break one a month at least.
@@richiedagger733 mans really trynna call you out for no reason
@@nelly123713 Considering the shining beacon of trustworthiness that the CZcams comments section typically is, I can't say as I blame him tbh.
You say that till the man rolls up and fixes the “mini prybat” even though it’s not the proper use. Your not paying as much for the tool as you are the service that comes with the name. Both our matco and snap on guys provide service with no questions asked. The only thing I haven’t seen them cover is losing a tool. Even a 36 inch pry bar bent in a u from getting left in a excavator track was covered by our snap on guy.
As someone who has just started building my own tool collection, these videos are great! It's good to know what you can cheap out on and what you shouldn't.
If you're building your tool box look at torque test and project farm videos
Same here. These videos and Project Farm's videos are insanely useful
@@apoplecticwrenchmonkey definitely worth it saves you money and you get the better tool
Also try checking out garage sales for cheap stuff
Also don't forget to do some research and buy alternatives made in the same factory. The harbor freight Daytona 3 ton jack is made in the same factory as the snap on fj300 Jack
The harbor freight warranty wins a lot for me. It's super easy to exchange and I'm not a mechanic so I don't go thru that many tools.
I worked in HVAC install and to break through sheet metal we had a “beat it” screw driver, saw the Doyle’s looking better than the rest and used one for 6 months as my “beat it” screw driver, we would hammer the tip of it to go through sheet metal and it’s never failed me great to see the brand I bought before this video was well worth it🙏
The old Stanley black and yellow screwdrivers are the best.
And anyone who pays $200 for a set of screwdrivers that are no different than a Klein set is not in the right mind.
For the most part, spending these kinds of prices for snap on products is more for someone’s big ego
Or you got to college and get 50-60% off lmao
The thing ppl don't understand about Snap on is they're not good just expensive with great marketing. Snap on will sell their tools in bulk to trade schools, auto repair companies, and big contractors. Snap on comes to them and makes it easy for then to purchase so they do, expense is irrelevant cuz they'll just write it off.
Then new tradesmen come up surrounded by Snap on tools, they think these are the tools the school used, they were all over my first jobsite, all the pros and older guys are using them they must be the best. When really it just comes from indoctrination.
@@nickconley4098 Yup that's exactly their marketing strategy price high and indoctrinate students and new tradesmen
Snap-on has been trash for the last 15 years sadly..
Not really, Snap on pays salaries, worker's comp and has highly regulated factory floors. Taxes are paid to the county, state, and feds. Imported tools don't have to do this. Once Snap on is gone, the imports raise their prices. The argument mechanics make is that they don't lose their tools, whereas lots of the cheap tools are bought as disposables. I buy used Snap on and don't hammer on them: best of both worlds.
I am disappointed that you didn't test the Linus Tech Tips screwdriver
It may be worth the money but it’ll never be worth the wait.
Bruh it's for electronics
They tested man screwdrivers
Waste of money. 79$ provides you a really nice bit set with quality bitholder. No need for such multi bit screwdriver, that also suffers from bad weight balance as well as the very thick grip handle.
@@Squilliam-Fancyson thicc handle sometimes the solution since it could provide extra leverage
Every time I see you guys do this the snap on products tend to fall horribly. They're so expensive I figure they'd be top quality, maybe not top tier like Milwaukee but at least up there with the best. It seems like snap on is literally just expensive for the sake of being expensive and not because they have good tools.
Snap On is expensive because you're paying for the warranty, convenience of the tool truck, USA made.
@@Cameron-bk5gk still seems more expensive than it's worth. Don't get me wrong I would prefer US made since I live here and want to support my country, but I'm not gonna buy a tool that's gonna break and then I have to go through the hassle of a warrantee claim. Easier to buy a cheaper tool and replace it when it gets bad, or fix it myself. Flat heads are fairly easy to forge and the only thing stopping me from making philips heads is a milling machine that I dont have yet.
@@Cameron-bk5gk “USA made” off the same production lines as hf icon line
@@burtonboarder0208 icon tools made in Taiwan buddy
You figured wrong. Who pay for their trucks, and who pay for the driver's salary and commission? Go figure.
As an Aircraft Mechanic I loved this video. Because when I first started I though snap-on was the best that ever was but now my opinion has changed. If it feels good in my hand easy to read (socket sizes) and doesn't bend but also has a thin wall to get in tight places it's a win in my book. Craftsman and Husky have been really good to me although snap-on is usually specialty tools that have the thinnest walls and strength and odd sizes
Cutting the shank off the handles was a bad choice.
I’ve had screwdrivers that the handle started spinning on the shank & became useless. That’s why you should’ve tested them- handle on.
More like it could’ve been a separate test.
Not to mention just whether they feel nice to use. It can be slightly more durable, but if it feels bad in the hand or you can't grip it well, that affects its usefulness.
Agreed. Important how the handle feels and is gripped by the hand.
@@azt3cali94 could have done a torque test where they try to twist the driver out of the handle, I've also had similar experiences as OP so it is a thought when looking for new tools
Plus cutting with grinder could have changed temper of metal. Also Philips are designed for set torque. Should have tested straight drivers also.
Tool Party confirms a thing I was told by a mechanic. You buy the cheapest that isn't unsafe, and if it's not up to the job, _then_ you move up in cost as you need it. I'm a software guy, I've got a $200 keyboard because I use it all day every day, but my screwdrivers are a set comparable to the Huskys, because I use it for opening the occasional computer and putting together IKEA furniture.
My family also has this rule: when getting any new tool get the cheap one and figure out what you don't like about it. Then you can look at the version with all the bells and whistles and decide "when I was using a snowblower did I ever actually wish it had a cupholder?"
I just buy husky. Lifetime warranty and not particularly expensive
True. When I was a mechanic the starter tools were Snap-On. Once you started making some money you slowly started to upgrade your toolbox to Craftsman.
And you went from hand tools to power tools as quickly as possible, because time is money.
DOYLE RULES!
So, food for thought, stress testing by the drill would likely be using the driver outside of its design spec. Varying metals handle various stresses differently. That may explain the damage seen by the snapon. Additionally, user error also plays into it, as the operator of the drill definitely holds the drill differently on the fasteners with every pass.
Final note, PLEASE set the clutch on your drill to drill mode so the clutch stops skipping!!
Dudes... I absolutely not only love this series. But you guys do it perfectly!
I would of liked to see the actual pressure ratings on the screw drivers when they failed on the wedge/hammer test. Because if one bent out at 10lbft and the other snapped at 30lbft, the 30lbft one is far superior.
This.
Same for the prying test
As for every tool party, its medium comparison, its not super in depth.
More for entertaining and to learn something on side.
Agreed. A chart with price as a column instead of the judgement including price would be a great out for this video. That way I could make my own case based on how I use the tools.
@@l00k4tstuff Price absolutely should stay included. You could buy 4 sets of the Icon drivers before you met the price of Snap-On.
I’ve trusted Klein tools for over 25 years. They aren’t very strong as far as automotive and utilitarian use. But by far a very superior electrician tool.
I’d trust a Klein to insulate voltage.
Yep, I was under the impression Klein was, almost solely, an electrician tool brand.
my Klien wire strippers are amazing..
glad to see my favorite chisel won the hammering category. It kind of figures they might engineer something for all those lock nuts we have to tighten.
yep, i alway buy klein for screwdrivers and strippers. they make some damn fine tools, and I know I can trust them.
Exactly, as an electrician I was thinking the same thing, not tested for it’s Intended use.
12:50 Gotta love that Zach is already looking around for ways to safely keep the episode rolling
Been loving these videos lately. Love cheap vs expensive comparisons.
I feel like there was one massive oversight... With screwdrivers (especially cheaper ones) if you push the screwdriver into the screw and twist to hard sometimes the glue let's go in the handle and the head/shaft comes out or just spins in the handle so I feel like on-top of the first screw test they should have did it with the handle on to see Wich one held up the best other than that great episode.
Also there should be a subjective comfort test. You can really rip up your hand with a poor handle
That's exactly what I was going to say.
@@andygray563 THIS! First test should have been driving screws by hand. You know, what you're supposed to do with a screwdriver. Otherwise, excellent video!
welding them also affects and hardening and tempering and induces larger grain structure
This isn't Project Farm dude. lower them expectations there Bucko.
Woah, glad Jobe and Jimmy didn’t get hurt from that flying screwdriver! You all might wanna start using the Mythbusters plexiglass shield for that type of stuff haha
Im shocked by the Klein drivers, my dads set from about 20 years ago has no bent tips or damage, they are extremely solid. I just got a set about a year ago, havent put them through their paces yet but hopefully they hold up.
Looking at those data points...the Husky should have been the recommendation. It did not necessarily dominate but for the price it also never hit the bottom in performance and was always beating its competition and higher priced tools.
Harbor freight has a lifetime warranty on the tools and they will replace them if they break. Husky doesn’t not have that to my knowledge
My dad has every snap on tool under the sun (used to build pre runners and the snap on truck would come by his shop) and I noticed the old ones that he has are way better than my new ones
Yup. Capitalism is a shame. They built the brand and it's all they care about now
@@9ernation543 Right they are overpriced for lower quality.Snap-on not worth the M$$$Y!
Common with all the brands, especially Craftsman
*you’re
"Capitalism is a shame" says the guy using an app on a $1,200 phone/computer, on the internet. Capitalism is the reason there were other brands of screwdrivers available for comparison in the first place: some equal to, or better than, Snap-on's crappy products; but at a fraction of the price.
I remember when I first started working in a shop, and the Snap-On guy came every week. Got talked into buying some tools. Yes, they feel good for long periods of use, and Yes, it was handy when he came back to trade in a busted tool for a spanking new one. But after the second or third time I replaced terminal screwdrivers, I realized I hadn't been replacing tools of other brands I used at the time. Kleins, Craftsman and Husky. Stopped buying Snap On and never looked back. Now, when working on terminals or live parts, I prefer Wiha's insulated tools and terminal screwdrivers, most of my stuff is still Klein. They still feel good and last as I need them. No complaints there.
Wiha screwdrivers are so good! They are the only ones I use in my shop for terminal wiring
Wera and Wiha are the only two good screwdriver brands with consistent quality right now IME. Lots of brands are coasting on their name or previous QC
Just watched this long video about tools and screwdrivers and haven’t changed a light bulb in my life😂.
Loved this test! I'll watch every tool test like this. I think I've been convinced to buy some Doyle screwdrivers
The one comparison you missed though is how they feel in your hand, because grip is important. Loving these videos, keep up the good work!
That’s what she said.
I think Wera's are perfect in that regard. But that's only my opinion.
That was the very first review my dude
I really like the rectangular grips on cornwell screwdrivers. Lots of people disagree with me though.
That was the first thing they reviewed out of the box.
This series has taught me never to even consider buying another snap on tool.
SNAP ON OR NOTHING!!!!!!!!
Their power tools are even worse.
@@nathanw6867 Snap on Ratchets are best everything else is overpriced garbage
@@matthewrousenberger9352 The only reason i buy a select amount of snap on is b/c the truck is here every week and if it breaks I can get something replaced relatively easily. I'm paying for a service so to say.
@@Bloodsweatsawdust bs.. power tools are great
This rather amusingly shows that some of Harbor Freight's stuff really is every bit as good as name-brand, something I've said for years. Work told us to use this $200 torque wrench for a job that didn't really need a torque wrench, and it was always camming out of the slot despite supposedly being the right bit. In reality, the tool we used was $1.75 Harbor Freight #2 Phillips which didn't cam out.
I would love to see more of this content. Was always fun!
Honestly, I’m surprised that screwdriver sets can cost up to $200. It’s crazy how many sets there are and how big the range of cost is.
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The high price is usually worth it in quality and service if you do this stuff for a living, for instance you can get a replacement if it breaks right at your work which is convenient.
I am from Germany and work in a big company. All the tools we have are high end tools and we buy quality tools. We got screwdrivers for 50€ for only 1😂. Yeah i think its waaay not worth it and nobody give a shit about the maintenance of the tools.
You can always get a better price buying from the manufacturing company .. You research the brand and by who is made in you'll find very interesting things....
If you actually do thos for a living the cheap * is junk. In the Aerospace industry we use FOD compliant tools. Snap-on is the only one that meets industrial standards by ansi, iso 9000, and many many other certifications along with 3000+ tool patents. Not to mention American made.
As a long-time Donut fan, I gotta be real: This series feels like Project Farm with better editing and a lower IQ.
...still watch it tho
Yeah I def watch Project Farm for my tool reviews, watch these guys because they are entertaining.
Fair assessment. I can attest the Pittsburgh screwdrivers are definitely a case of you get what you pay for. The Doyle pliers I have are good quality.
This video is a blatant copy of his in some aspects kinda sad
Wow, great tests for the tools! Super interesting too. Thanks!!
I could watch content like this all day and night until the day I die. This is good content that I love. Please more tool test videos
Fun durability tests! I'm glad nobody got hurt. "We're way calmer than we should be." gave me a good laugh.
I love how Zach nearly got impaled by a screw driver and hardly even blinked 😂
Things can happen fast, and the worst usually do. And you can edit video to redact the moments after. That t-shirt definitely felt something, and I will stand my t-shirt alongside. .
Harbor Freight needs to sponsor you guys after this. I'm about to get some Doyle tools because of this.
Now redo it but with LTT driver 🤣
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O'Doyle Rules!
For our next tool test, we'll compare these budget tool testers (Donut) against this quality tool tester (Project Farm).
My thoughts exactly lol
I’m an electrician and swear by my Klein tools. Love the no questions asked lifetime warranty.
Wiha and Felo are way better. Germany does steel better than Americans, especially when most "American" tools are made in China. And Chinese steel is just awful.
@@Patrick-857 not as readily available than klein.
@@Patrick-857 Knipeex hands down
I like Irwin tools a lot
@@Patrick-857 not much of a difference in value 🤷♂
Back when I was a mechanic I picked up both a Phillips and a straight edge Snap On screw driver set. Supposedly high quality and durable.
I snapped so many screw driver tips it became a running joke when the Snap On tool guy showed up. You want to know what broke the most phillips screw driver tips?
Headlight Bezels for the old school 'trim rings' that retain the headlights.
I went back to Craftsman shortly after.
I have three ancient 1980's sets of Chicago Forge screwdrivers, which all have the classic Stanley tri hub handles, which are the best standard handles for me to use to twist the screwdrivers with. But all get topped by the fat round handle changeable bit screwdriver which you can REALLY put some weight on because of the size of the top of the handle.
PH screwdrivers are suposed to cam-out, thats why all results are so simmilar, thats how they are made. If you wanted to test screvdriver head bending or braking, use flat one, PZ, Torx, or any other that is suposed to stay in.
I just wish they would have rigged up some kind of jig that applied consistent pressure and could measure how well they work after dozens of attempts (not just one). The lack of tables in the data (with average/median values shown on video) bugs me a lot.
Ph screws and ph screwdrivers belong together you're talking about using a ph screwdriver on a pz screw, that's just ruining the screwdriver an the screw
@@lukie4ever No, I am not talking about PH in PZ. PH screwdriver in PH screw is suposed to cam out as its sides is at an specific angle. Only way PH will stay in is if you can aply infinite presure on srewdriver to stay in.
@@ctrlaltdel02 if i use a good sharp bit i almost never get cam out
Impact! I agree with a flat drive test but I think the fasteners would break first. Tools are cool haha
You guys forgot the cheapest screwdriver of them all, the butter knife!
And the house keys
the only downside is getting yelled at by mom / the wife _(different people, mind you)_ when they break.
...it's like the opposite of a warranty.
I once had to put a networking switch into a rack and I used the classic scissors ✂️ to do the job 😎
For people wondering about the snap on screw drivers, i have had one of those exact screw drivers for over 10 years and its been great. I worked in a tire shop, in a heavy duty shop and at a dealership where mine was left out in the snow for a season, ran over by a big truck, used as a chisel ( still do lol ) and used to get very tight screws out ( like screws holding on 15 year old brake drums ) because the end just DOESNT bend or break. Ive had the torch get the end of it hot and still works fine. Also it was like 56$ up here in canada so thats even cheaper in the US. I have 4 of them and spend around 224$ on the 4 of them and that was in 2012. They are a little beat up cause of the way i am with stuff but they are all still perfectly straight, tight, the tips have next to no damage, meanwhile my buddy who is on his 3rd set of 15 screwdrivers for 67$ from Canadian Tire has a few bent and broken ones, canadian tire wont Honor the warranty OR replace them.. not sure why and the tips on them wear down in months no longer fitting the same screws they did before. And i asked the snap on guy about warranty, he said i can literally put it in a vice and break it and he would give me a new one no questions asked. I bought a 80$ pair of flush cuts off him 7 years ago, the one blade broke from tryna cut something metal ( clearly says for only plastic on them ) and he threw them in a drawer and handed me a new pair and said there ya go. Ive been using snap on stuff a long time and the warranty alone is worth it.
We need a video comparing floor jacks! And prybar sets also love yalls vids keep up the good work my guys!
As an electrician I’ve been loyal to Klein tools since the beginning, but in resent years their quality has been lacking. I’m definitely going to buy the Doyle $25 set. I’ve paid more than that for one Klein screwdriver in the past. I’m also highly disappointed in Snap-On. I feel like a lot of mechanics use Snap-On because of their name just like electricians with Klein. Great video!
its also the Snapon Franchise model where mobile stores come to you, im not a mechanic but my brother is and he admits while snapon tools are not as good as others the fact that the van turns up weekly is a major factor for him its almost like customer service is more important than product quality. also and as a little more fanchise depnedant thay pretty much ask no questions when replacing a broken tool ... also a win
@@joshuapritchard575 Yes the truck plays a major role along with being replaceable every week if needed. But prices are crazy. Although they finance so you can get them right away and owe them the rest of your career.
Klein is hard to beat when it comes to their us made tools. My Yellow Handled "snips" are fantastic and are used at least 20 times a day.
Klein and channel locks all the way
Snap on's Ratchets sockets and wrenches are some of the best stuff for mechanics ( they are pricey) but some of their other stuff is hit or miss ..and electronics definitely a rip off
Love these videos. Random question: shouldn't the lower price be green on the price scale and move towards red as it gets more expensive?
yeah i think so
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I worked a job for 5 years where the company provided--almost--exclusively klein hand tools. I never had one break or wear after regular daily use and I'm honestly surprised they did so poorly. I'm not a tool aficionado or snob by any means, but I grew to really like my klein tools at work.
At home, it's a bit of a different story and a different standard. I've been buying the Hart brand from walmart for just simple around the house projects and so far I've been really impressed by the quality and some of the finer details they put into simple hand tools.
have not finished the video yet, already LOVE the basis for comparison... that was brilliant!
Said it before, I'll say it again: I'm not a tool guy, and I watch every minute of every episode of this series. Love it.
This is purely entertainment. That is why you watch it.
Thats awesome man. I am a tool guy so its cool to hear that these guys are good enough to entertain even on a subject that is not one of your favorites. If you haven't seen Project Farm before I would strongly encourage you to watch some of his videos as well. All of his videos are basically this series and he does a great job.
No one cares what you say, or if you've said it before
You guys should do a high/low with motorcycles since gas prices are going up again.
Since they did high low with a budget sports car, the bike could be a beginner budget sports bike. What mods would they do though that aren’t just cosmetic.
@@charliemaybe Then they should do a High/Low Sporty build. They can be had for cheap and you can do some fun stuff for not a lot of money or go full out 1275cc 100+hp and dump more money then the bike will ever be worth.
@@Jmacfann it could be fun if they started with a 2 stroke dirt bike and worked on it to make it a race bike with higher compression and more power
Could even do a really fun trail/road bike build, something like a Honda Grom. That's super attainable for the majority of people
@@charliemaybe Yeah and since half on facebook market place are stolen they can be had for cheap (joke) they are super easy to work on and parts and not expensive especially on the used market. Older CR or YZ and KX's are easy to find. Some people that had them though did not do rebuilds as they should though..even though its an hour project to replace the top end.
My father was a carpenter by trade and he used to do most of the servicing on our vehicles as well. He would only, mainly get Gedore. I have inherited all of his tools, three HUGE boxes full, of different tools. some of which was also handed to him from his grandfather and father. It is amazing how those tools have stood the test of time and abuse, but still work so well. Compared to most of the "quality" tools one gets these days, that break the first time you use them.
I really appreciate you guys' doing these tests; I'd noticed your video and watched it precisely because I'd been wondering what screwdriver set to buy; two stores (Harbor Freight and a pawn shop) had both offered a new set of the Pittsburgh brand screwdrivers like the ones you'd tested, but I was super-nervous about purchasing them because I'd thought they might be crappy like another bargain-priced set of screwdrivers which I'd bought at a sidewalk tools sale years ago, and that had flame-blackened tips that just crumbled (well, the Philips-head ones did, anyway) under merely moderate pressure. I am so glad now that I didn't buy the Pittsburgh screwdrivers, since it turns out that they apparently are indeed just brittle junk, just as I;d suspected they might be. I guess I'll go with the Doyle brand screwdrivers, then; thanks again for testing them for us all. :D
While a great episode of tool party, I feel like you guys might need to at least take the mythbuster route and setup some plexiglass walls for tests like this in the future.
You had the Hammer Drill setting on while testing the tips. You'll ruin any bit that way. It's for drilling holes in concrete, not driving screws.
Right? It was bothering me so much. I’m in school for elec and when I hear some kid switch my drill to hammer without realizing I have to run into those shop and take it away 😂
YES!! my OCD was in full anxiety mode.
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It's a torture test, and the only way you can approximate tool durability in only 50 screws
@@ducttapeanddreams
I had that thought as well, but they could have said that, but didn't. So instead it just looks like he didn't know how to use a hammer drill.
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Dude was like "nah, you aren't touching my equipment "
Love these tool vids, just top entertainment for us mech heads!!
Wiha tool, knipex, felo are top three brand in my boxes and I want more of them in it too. Over 25 years I have been using and abusing them in heavy industrial environment they are still great tools. However they are up in the snap off , strap on , snap on price range but hold up and don't need the warranty bs like them. Fun video and enjoy the hold my beer approach.
I'd add Wera to the list as well. I constantly switch between my Wiha and Wera screwdrivers. Both have great tips and the handles are nice as well. The only ones I don't like are Wera's precision screwdrivers. The handles are them are weird and feel cumbersome to use
@@Albertotron I forget about them... I have a few of the 1/4" hex bit drivers they make
Wiha precision wiring screw drivers improve my quality of life at work ten fold.
Really would have loved to see some Milwaukee tools, they’ve been doing pretty good with quality recently. I have a set of wrenches and they seem almost comparable to old snap on quality
I loved this format!
Would love to see some other brands, like S&K, Craftsman, Wera, and Wiha.
This must be one of the most dangerous experiments that you've done, guys.
Watching Jobe nonchalantly almost get impaled by a broken screw driver was a little eye opening haha
If mythbusters has taught me anything, you should probably be using ballistic glass around those breaking tests.
@@skunkworker Damn, I miss Grant Imahara.
@@jan_mikes_hidden_stories777 kari byron
@@Nbomber weird I just saw a vid of her confirming an anime (Dr. Stone) has legitimate science lmao yes, yes it does. Warning labels exist for a reason fs 😂
I think it was literally my second, maybe third day on the job as an aircraft mechanic, replacing a fuel tank on a C172N, back in 1991. I had the basic level Craftsman tools. Some of the screws simply would not turn with my screwdriver. Just slip out. The guy I was working with handed me his Snap-on, came right out. The cheap Craftsman would work 90%+ of the time. But that difference in the shape, how the tip was treated, and the shape of the handle made a clear difference ~10% of the time.
I don't remember how much I paid for the Snap-On ratcheting screw driver in 1991, but I still use it to this day. Haven't turned a screw on an airplane in 26 or 27 years though. But as an A&P it was in my hand more than any other tool.
7:01 "thats still a totally usable screwdriver..."
yeah except for the fact you guys CUT OFF THE HANDLE!! XD lol
I think something to heavily consider is that Snap-On tools have a lifetime warranty and you don't even need a receipt. Any Snap-On dealer will take a broken tool and have it replaced or repaired. I broke a small Snap-On breaker bar like 3 times and they gave me a new free one each time. I would have paid the same amount of money or more if I had to buy a cheaper one three times.
I've actually had similar experiences with some of Harbor Freight's hand tools.
So does icon and harbor freight has plenty of brick and mortar stores, snap on dealers have to be tracked down unless they come to your business regularly and some of them are iffy because they're independent dealers, snap on definitely has the best quality hand tools but that warranty can be finicky
So the same warranty as the Icon line? Or the Tekton line? The only difference is waiting for the tool truck to show up or going to the store.
@@andy04rubi yeah they all have lifetime warranty it can be a pain getting snap on to warranty the tool if you dont have a truck that comes to where you work often where harbor freight you can just go to the store, i haven't had to deal with tekton warranty yet but id assume its something you have to do by mail but i dont know
Yeah and you still only would have paid 3/10 of the price of the snap on if you would have bought a cheap one
So just buy mid range, some of them do have life time warranty to, and the probably last just as long as snap on
After seeing many snap on tools, the price is just absurd
I've come to learn there is a huge difference in quality from my older snap on tools my dad has and the few I have.
Personally I have a ton of craftsman. Life time warranty and cheap and pretty good quality for basics
That's something I noticed as well. Old snap ons were built way tougher. But it seems like the modern ones are relying on the brand name to sell rather than being actual quality pieces.
@@Kaiyuni I agree. My dad has alot of snap on from the 80s when he worked in aerospace industry. Old tools would be given to the employees when they would receive new tools.
I have way too much money in snap on tools, and honestly the only tools I’ve bought from them that I love are my ratchets.
Same goes for old craftsman stuff. My grandpa's old craftsman wrenches are holding up way better than my newer set 😭🤣
Best bit replaceable screwdriver is the patented Autoloader. Not super durable but lasts long for the money. Very good to have if you are tired of constantly changing bits.
Tools to consider: Jump Pack, Emergency Roadside Kit, “Portable” Hydraulic Lifts (portable in quotes due to them being 250lbs each usually), pneumatic wrench.
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite shows from you guys, keep them going
I'm really liking this hi low like series but with tools. On the next video please test between cheap and expensive jack stands.
I've got that 200 set, and i think its 100% worth it if you use it a lot. The real benefit is the precision of the tip, especially on the Philips, I used to strip them relatively regularly, but I've never stripped one with my snap on. the texture on the head really helps to grab on to the head of the screw.
Cope
so y did it lose the torque test
Man, I can only hope you guys do an episode on floor jacks! Love the content, keep her goin!
I own icon and snap-on screw drivers(auto tech of 20 years) and under normal daily use i prefer the snap on screw drivers for sure. That being said my favorite screwdrivers are vessel
Always love Tool Party videos! More please! 😎
Great test! I know the Doyle set is meant to mimic the Klein as a set, but I wish they had #0 and #3 phillips available.
I'd love to see a comparison of all the different security devices you can attach to/around a catalytic converter to prevent theft. I have a feeling it would go a similar direction as the wheel lock episode.
my favorite catalytic converter security is a good ol fashioned Midget with a Glock hidden behind the oil pan. Crack head in for nasty 9 milly hollow point.
I would love to see the same tests with Dewalt and Milwaukee.
Meh... some of it can be ok. But I avoid power tool brand hand tools.
This is a FANTASTIC series
I have never needed a new screwdriver in my life. All the ones I use are from a approx. 50-60 years old Toolbox from my granddad. It’s all Chrom-Vanadium, never rusts, can be hammered into everything thanks to its metal top and cannot be bent even by prying a gap between an engine and a transmission.
everytime they do "stress test" i go into Safety panic after many years as an engineer, DAMN i can see so many risks, we also saw a lucky situation with the torque wrenches where it nearly hit the camera man in the head. Please, just use some kind of enclosure, just some lexan or maybe some heavy mesh..
Love this segment and definitely digging the Jerry, Jobe combo! Keep ‘em coming! :)
That said…
I realize you guys are crazy busy pumping out content and probably filming and editing multiple shows at once, and as a result some things get rushed. Often times that’s the sound. This episode was particularly difficult to listen to. The levels were all over the place. It’s much less noticeable on my phone, but I like watching you guys on my tv in the living room. There are moments it’s so quiet I can barely hear them speaking, and a second later my speakers are exploding. Sometimes it’s tinny and thin sounding, other times it’s boomy. I find it super frustrating and distracting.
Sorry to criticize. I adore this channel…but I just had to say something. It has been like this similarly in other videos, but this was the worst one. A compressor and limiter would go a long way. A show like this doesn’t really need dynamics. Just flatten out the audio levels, and put some eq on some troublesome spots and you’ll be golden.
Harbor freight- when you don't want any limbs tomorrow
I feel like cutting them defeats the point a little of comparing them for what they are
As a full time mechanic, none of us are using snap on flat screwdrivers to turn slotted fasteners. We use it for the exact purpose that snap on tells us not to do, a prybar, punch, and chisel.
I love it how this video is about testing the durability etc. of screwdrivers but its also a health and safety benchmark😂
Pro mechanic here. I have a set of about 20 year old Snap On screwdrivers and a set of maybe 15 year old Sears/Craftsman screwdrivers. I used both sets equally.
I’ve had to replace one of my Snap On screw drivers (under warranty). It was my biggest, flat blade screwdriver and it definitely didn’t break because I used it like a pry bar.
Almost all of the Craftsman screwdrivers are destroyed by now. Since Sears doesn’t exist anymore and my local Lowe’s/Home Depoot ( can’t remember which does craftsman now) wants to hassle me about warranties for tools they don’t specifically sell, I can’t get them replaced.
That said, I’ve had a set of Pittsburg 1/2” impact sockets for between 15-20 years now and used them daily. I think I paid maybe $20 for them at the most. I’ve never broken a single one, and I’ve hammered on them (literally).
I got some armPittsburgh screw drivers because it was the only set that had a long (and small, butt not too small) enough Phillips to open my little heater...I looked through so many...
This is my favorite series on Donut.
i work at a mechanic shop and love my husky screwdrivers, i think one of their biggest advantages is their square ish shaped handle. It helps put more torque on the screw, sad they didnbt actually test by hand as that is literally the screwdrivers job, handle design greatly impacts fatigue whle screwing.
"Love handles"?
@@kimnach 😂