The true cost of cigarette butt littering
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If the cigarette companies are liable, then McDonalds KFC etc and even the corner shop should be too.
I couldn't agree more with what you've said, Where I live there's a McDonald's about one and a quarter miles away and just about every time I go out there's discarded McDonald's cartons and cups lying on the roadside.
Agreed. I live in a rural location, 15 miles from the nearest McD's, which must be about the time it takes to eat said meal whilst driving, because the roadside is constantly littered at weekends.
LOL I was waiting at some traffic lights in a queue once, and two cars in front someone started throwing McDonalds waste out of the window..... so I got out of my car picked it up, and threw it back in through the still open window. The lid came off a half full drink and went everywhere in their car. Karma.
I believe the most littered items are Coca-Cola company products-plastic bottles mostly- from all their different brands.
Also why donât they make butts biodegradable?
When I studied GCSE level Business Studies (some time in the distant past), I found out that when a McDonalds is created, they have a duty to clean up litter (not just their own), in the area outside their restaurant. Perhaps this has changed. More generally I notice that McDonalds restaurants don't seem to run very well at all. The food is not ready made, so it isn't fast-food, the ordering machines usually don't provide receipts, they usually don't have milkshakes, the toilets are dirty, and the status displays don't seem to correspond to reality with the displays saying food is ready for collection before it actually is :
When I worked in Hong Kong there were litter bins every 50 yards along the street with a sand-filled box on top of them for the disposal of cigarette ends.
One of the biggest problems in the UK is the absence of litter-bins in public places and the general reluctance of councils to remove litter from our streets.
I see a stream of litter on all the school routes in my local area, it's appalling that these kids would litter. Not ONCE in my life have I ever intentionally or knowingly littered even as a kid.
However there are no bins on those routes, I feel like knocking up replica council bins, eventually they would make their way into the list to be emptied along with the very few that do already exist.
No sand filled box here so they get stubbed out on top and then left to blow off.
Most of the bins got removed during the "troubles" in NI and have never been replaced.
I just made a comment similar to this before I saw yours Barry. I agree completely that the facilities are lacking in the UK for effective litter disposal and control.
When I was a smoker years & years ago I carried a little tin that I used to stub out my cigarettes & put them in. I donât feel that lack of bins is an excuse, although annoying. Itâs all about respect & decency.
The council has to regularly sweep gutters to clear up stones lifted from the tarmac as these pose a hazard. Cigarette butts get picked up by the same sweeper. They then separate the chippings from the butts and claim those butts cost them so much to pick up even though they had to run the sweeper anyway.
Exactly. Just another cash grab by councils.
Well said....the sweepers dont come out enough either.
The problem is not with legislation but with enforcement. When the government cuts budgets and councils mismanage them something has to give.
they will crack down on smokers....but when are they going after the pedos?
This ^^^^^ - council tax, duty tax ... so much tax already pays for street cleaners. But if you're caught littering then you pay - basic common sense and decency - especially when there's enough bins around.
@@lizbird9628 There is also their own bloody bins at home, pure I donât give a flying f*** attitude.
Whoever does the littering should pay the fines themselves instead of the manufacturer.
Look the street sweeper man will always be there regardless because rubbish gets on the streets. Most authorities have men at least once a month walk around all streets to clean up excess litter. They have their normal daily street sweepers in and close to town centres.
I have worked for 3 authorities and the cigarette butts have hardly no weight. This is just a blag to get more money.
One authority wouldnât even fill up a 7.5t cage lorry over a year in cigarette butts so why do they want no doubt tens of thousands each off the tobacco companies?
Like I say the council or the contractors for them will always need to have them men to keep the country clean. Yes fine litterers when seen dropping litter on purpose.
Same with the takeaway containers.
@@paulcollyer801 Forever clearing up outside my house & driveway with other peoples shite, very frustrating
@@paulcollyer801 True & donât get me started on the bin collecting policy đĄ
Spot on.
I'm street cleaner btw
PS my town seems to have removed most of the litterbins on our high street. That also includes dog waste bins. So pockets tend to get full.
Take a bag with you.
Tobacco duty tax receipts in the United Kingdom amounted to approximately 10.27 billion in 2021/22 so I think that should cover it.
Shushey Shushey ... no one likes to mention the tax thing Haha
Shots fired
Tobacco tax in the UK is absolutely disgusting. A cigar that costs $7-$10 in the US can end up costing ÂŁ25 in the UK. It's cheaper to buy pipe tobacco in the US and have it shipped in the UK than it is to go down to your local tobacconist and buy it from there. All because everyone makes tobacco laws left and right without realizing there are other tobacco products besides cigarettes. And to be honest, it's almost a stretch to call cigarettes a tobacco product at this point.
Isn't that meant to cover all the smoking-related medical/health costs of smokers? So that money is already accounted for. In any case, smokers should not be littering the country with their cigarette butts & they need to pay for cleaning up their own litter by paying any litter fines when they get caught littering. That's fair enough - to expect the people who make the litter, to clean up after themselves by paying the fine when caught.
In anticipation of a similar law, in relation to fast food litter, I noticed that one of my local fast food outlets now uses plain drink containers, not emblazoned with their corporate name, presumably so that when the Council find discarded containers in the hedgerows they will not be able to track it back to that company!
TBH Councils should be taking a more proactive approach in relation to town litter by providing, and emptying, more public litter bins so people have more opportunity to 'do the right thing'.
We could also do with a bottle and can deposit/return/refunds scheme. As a kid I remember looking for discarded deposit bottles whenever I was out walking, the 3d refund bought a lot of chews in those days!
đ " . . . the 3d refund bought a lot of chews in those days!". Ah, the good old days.
Councils being proactive costs money, which theyâd rather spend on their own divisive schemes.
Around ÂŁ7 of the cost of a packet of cigarettes is tax.
We once upon a time pay tax to pay for street cleaning .
Now its become normal for tax not to be spent on what tax is actually for .
Is that 68% volume of all rubbish dropped, or 68% of individual pieces of litter. One dumped sofa is much bigger than one butt? So which is it? But I do agree any rubbish is gross.
BBB is talking nonsense!
@@Ian-xt1mb He is certainly being vague and ambiguous with his stats.
Cigarette butts make up the vast majority of litter items (66%) when examining litter in terms of their numbers, but only 0.2% of overall litter volume.1 (Defra research reference EQ0121)
Does our council tax pay for street cleaning? I carry a little tin ashtray that closes up so I can deposit butts in the rubbish bin at home. I bought it a few years ago and haven,t seen them around since but any little tin box would do. Seems harsh though for every bit of litter dropped as some times I must have pulled out something from my pocket and not noticed a tissue or receipt has fallen out without me noticing and I don,t walk around looking over my shoulder as I,m paying attention not to walk into people. Happy New Year and thank you for all your good advice.
We are not allowed to enforce manners with our own children. Its not surprising they grow up thinking they can get away with anything even into adulthood. I was clipped round the ear and smacked in the ass growing up and would never throw litter on the ground.
they will crack down on smokers....but when are they going after the pedos?
You make a very good point.
When I was out with my little ones any wrappers etc would be placed in my pockets.
People do not really, on average, want to know, and use government as an excuse. If people banded together they would defeat parliament, but children are just the latest fashion accessory, and so the younger the child, the more we see them with babies
If you donât enforce discipline on your children then youâre a bad parent. Telling kids off, the odd smack and, mostly like the biggest deterrent, removing technology, works a treat.
@@EdOeuna True, and you start when they are babies, lay down the rules of good behaviour and continue into childhood.
Babies are now the fashion, the addition to the life for others to admire, and this then leads to neglect of moral and ethical behaviour, the ruination of a child.
I used to smoke, had a tin to put used ciggies in.
Vape now had current one for a few years, resuable. .
fine the person.
There is a subset of society, doesn't give a shit.
I live between 2 pubs and not far away from various take aways and late shops, the council isn't going to clean up my garden of glasses, bottles packaging etc, it all done by me and put in recyling.
Most dog owners pretty good, but sometimes the thing is bit poorly, with the best will in the world you can't pick that up (not without my jetwash.).
I volunteer for a place where getting it wrong can make you very sick., needles, wraps, methadone bottles, parks and disused buildings.
Had jabs so the stuff does'nt bother me.
Do I wan't to ban the pubs, takeaways, dog ownership.
cigs and vapes like Aviator says?
No, I want to shame individuals into compliance with normal societal habits, it's called being responsible for your actions.
Personal responsibility is fair
Cannot afford to heat our homes this winter, but the issue of cigerette butts is a priority.
Hahaha this guy knows
The thing is if you get attacked, one foggy night, by a flying butt, whom do you blame, which manufacturer for ruining your night out, that you never expected, whilst up the ladder, forcing a window open, to be attacked by an irate fag butt
Perhaps fine Putin for causing the cost of fuel to go up? Why not do more than one thing at once, it is possible as far as I am aware.
@@megapangolin1093 Why fine Putin, it is our leadership that has caused our price hikes silly.
If they wanted to resolve the cigarette butt issue, they could just make them biodegradable. ;) However, that would not siphon of millions of tax payers money and create jobs. There in is the crux of the issue really at play... The expansion of government into our everyday lives. Look at our country today, can you honestly say you believe our leaders have its citizens/subjects best intrests in mind?
@@megapangolin1093 Fine the British government for giving the green light to raise prices, and then to cover it up by blaming Putin.
It costs over $50 for a packet of tailor made cigarettes in Australia, no one can afford to litter đ
Good
Holy crap! I grow my own tabac. Organic, natural, the remains just go back to the soil.
I would personally like to see Takeaways be made responsible for the disgusting mess their customers leave strewn along the streets
Would you also like to fine trees for shedding their leaves ?
If you charge the companies then the smokers will feel entitled to litter, because they've already paid for the cleanup through higher prices; might as well get my monies worth. Giving them a seriously stuff penalty at the time of the offense would make them think twice.
Very responsible attitude but how many people get caught? The system, like the police, is costed on the basis of deterrence, not on prevention. There is no effort to prevent at all. Son the best thing is to double the litter charge per packet, they can only throw 20 stubs on the ground however much they pay.
@@megapangolin1093 I do agree that enforcement is the major problem, that's why the penalties need to be really high. To make it hurt enough to make up for the times they get away with it. My main issue with charging the companies is I believe it would increase the litter issue, and I doubt if the money would even go to help the cleaning, knowing how well the government handles money.
The smokers who drop their cigarettes should pay. I donât see why I should contribute to their littering clean up as itâs not my rubbish.
What part of the rubbish on the streets is yours then?
This honestly my biggest pet hate with smokers.
When I stand at a bus stop, look down and see (not an exgeration) hundreds, if not thousands, of cigaretts dumped on the ground, it absolutely infuritates me. I live in a flat, in which parents will park up and collect kids from a local school, in our private car park. You can glance out and see several smoking in our car park, walk away and throw their cigarette on the ground. That cost to clean that up, then falls on those of us living here.
It's nothing short of arrogant, and the excuse of "there's no bins around" means nothing.
If you smoke and travel regularly, for work or to collect kids from school, and you there are few bins on that route, it's just arrogant to not wait until you get home to smoke and make excuses. I've seen people arrive at a bus stop, start smoking and within 30 seconds a bus arrives, and they throw the cigarette on the ground. Is that not a massive waste of money, if nothing else?
Absolutely. the same can be seen at Traffic Lights.
Not all smokers smoke cigarettes, just saying.
@@CristiNeagu OK... That doesn't detract from the unfortunate fact that many still do and (virtually everyone I see) throws their tabs on the ground afterwards.
@@SimonNeilScott Yes, but why should others have to pay for that? I mean, the argument here is that people littering make everyone's lives worse. How would making life even worse for some going to fix anything?
@@CristiNeagu I agree. I'm on the side of fining the culprit committing the crime, not charging society. sorry I thought that had been obvious.
Anyone dropping litter, including cig butts are just scumbags with no respect for the community and should be fined. No one expects car manufacturers to pay for speeding fines!
Perhaps the government could simply use some of the tax they take from all cigarettes sales already.
The tobacco companies should be charged for the cleanup cost and they, of course will simply pass the cost on to the smokin' customers by increasing the cost of their products which addicted customers will obviously pay for.
No matter who has to clean it up, the public will be the ones paying for it. Like we always do.
I wonder whether you will think the same way as this principle is passed down to ... your shampoo for example ?
How about the tobacco companies that do not make cigarettes? Why should they pay for cigarette butts? And why should tobacco users that don't smoke cigarettes have to incur the cost? Did you think about that?
@@noelward8047 My shampoo? I don't wash my hair then toss the empty bottle out of the window.... Please explain...
@@CristiNeagu I didn't know tobacco was used for anything other than smoking. What else is it used for??
So they should, but councils should fine more people for throwing cigarette buds and all the sweet wrappers and drink cans thrown everywhere. The rivers are getting filled with this rubbish too.
I think the person that litters, should get the fine. I read somewhere that the companies that make chewing gum pay a bit extra to go towards cleaning. Not sure if that's true.
Where I live, in Ealing. We have a company that's works for the council to issue littering fines. Unfortunately, they are careful in who they issue fines to. An elderly lady was fined for pouring half a cup of coffee down the drain, then she threw the empty cup in a bin. Yet it has been pointed out that the same officers turn a blind eye when the chap who's dropping his rubbish on the ground.
I had one officer try to give me a fine for dropping a cigarette butt on the ground in Westminster. I walked away laughing, as I've never smoked.
Non-smoker here. I don't think cigarette butts are responsible for very much litter. Most of it seems to be containers or packaging for drinks and food; by all means fine people for dropping those (or cigarette packets!), but the odd dog-end - I don't think so.
More enforcement needed. It's very easy, if you are able to carry an item to the place where you discard it ( litter ), then you are capable of carrying it to a proper disposal location. Littering is simply lazy and ignorant.
Water companies are the only people who can fly-tip with complete impunity. '
'What can we do with all this sewage?'
'Chuck it into the sea'
There is a reservoir near my home and it is littered with rusty water pipes all around it. so you are right to point that out.
This is nothing to do with the manufacturer whoever does the littering must pay the fine!!!
Love the channel . Please ,Please tell me what dictionary English people use to find that the use of the word âFloorâ is acceptable for use outside where Scottish and other use the word âGroundâ for outside. As in â The apple fell to the groundâ Not floor. Floor is reserved for building interiors . Thanks
So takeaways and drink can manufacturers should pay too if that's the case as these things are often thrown on the ground not just cigarette buts!
Good, add ÂŁ1 per disposable item to cover the costs of recovery. That will make people think about buying in the first place.
Just fine people who drop butt ends ÂŁ200 a time. It is a criminal offence to litter.
In Stockton on Tees town centre cigarette butts are picked up by people to be turned into full cigarettes. I'm not sure what they do with the remaining filters.
Recycling butts thats the answerâŠ
Our council tax is high enough I'm sure they can afford a cleaner
Obviously the people smoking the cigarette and dropping the litter should be made to pay for it.
In the worst case the Government should slap an extra tax on cigarettes to pay for this nuisance.
Double the number of bins on the streets and increase the emptying of them
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Thank you!
I'm going to ask people to watch this when I issue a ticket.
So if I accidentally dropped a ÂŁ20 note on the pavement and walked away without realising could I be fined?
How about a discussion iro Misconduct in Public Office, Malfeasance in Public Office, Treason and Misprision of Treason????
The people who drop litter, we all like a clean environment so we must take responsibility for it. đ
Both of them need to pay.
Whoever does the littering should get the fine, my husband smokes and he carries an enclosed ashtray with him and uses this when smoking outside. There are many bins that are around that he empties it into and if we are somewhere like a Forrest then he takes it home with us! Itâs not difficult to not litter and we end up picking up litter that isnât ours when out also as itâs good to teach our kids to help the environment!
I'd love to work with you or speak with you on something about Section 87 & 88 of EPA 1990
As the amount of physical and verbal abuse is nuts and misinformation out there endangers officers.
(I work for a local authority in the south)
The point is drops litter knowingly or unknowingly AND LEAVES IT. So if you it is pointed out to you and by an officer and you go back and pick it up, sure under the legislation you have not left it and therefore no fine and therefore some of these tiktok videos may be correct?
when you have walked away from it you have left it. That's the point at which the offence has occurred. Going back later doesn't change history
@@xTerminatorAndy be interesting to see it tested in court, some of these videos by Charlie veitch and Danny shine make it clear that the officer has to give you the opportunity to put it right and pick it up. If you pick it up, then no one else has too so therefore what's the point in the fine? It's moneymaking. In an ideal world only those who refuse to pick it up should be fined.
My neighbour in our shared court yard has many friends round, they smoke and just flick it on the ground, many near my door, fed up of sweeping up after them
If only the local authorities put as much effort into preventing the, sometimes, van loads of rubbish fly tipped, as they do for general street littering.
Obviously the smokers and not society as a whole, but on a separate point if I had some fluff fall out of my pocket without my knowledge that might constitute a crime. It is *yet another* example of strict liability being both unfair and a problem.
Yes fine the person who is doing the littering
Absolutely agree, along with the sellers / manufacturers of chewing gum, which now appears to make up around 40% of pavement surfaces in some areas.
You agree with what? That manufacturers should contribute to the cost of cleaning litter up?
@@David_D. Yes! It's obvious the users can't be trusted to dispose of the remains responsibly. I also believe that, takeaway containers should also have a tax on them which should exclusively to the cleansing departments of areas with the most pollutions from this collective detritus. Why should clean living, socially responsible people be left to pick up the tab on the irresponsible litter louts?
How about tobacco companies that don't manufacture cigarettes? Why should they also pay for cigarette butts being discarded on the streets? How about cigarette smokers that's don't litter? Why should all these people have to pay for something they're not guilty of?
@@CristiNeagu You have almost answered your own question. Why should those not responsible for smoking, chewing gum, etc., have to pay for the littering of others who do smoke, chew gum, etc. Take your litter to a public receptacle and if there aren't any available, take it home and dispose of it with your household garbage.
@@knockapuken And yet you absolutely agree that manufacturers should pay for it. You're either confused, or you have trouble expressing yourself very well. Which is it? Should we make innocent people pay for others littering, or not?
The fine is completely disproportionate for the alleged "crime",
I always thought it was a Fixed Penalty as a fine can only be issued after you've been found guilty by a jury of your peers . It simply giving councils ridiculous powers they shouldn't have . Not that I smoke or litter and don't agree with anyone doing so it's just something I was once told about fines .
to be fair those that smoke do pay a lot of taxes so I imagine they are paying for the cleanup already.
I'm a smoker and I'm sorry but us smokers really don't have any excuse. All smoking areas have plenty of bins and stuff and even they are a disgrace with butts all over the floor, THE ASHTRAY BIN IS RIGHT BLOODY THERE!
It's part of the whole habit/ritual of smoking for some people. Either stamp on it or flick it away ala Steve McQueen style from the old movies. Bin it or pocket it until you get to a bin. "err but I don't want butt ends in my pocket cos they stink and make a mess" and that's exactly why they shouldn't be on the floor so.......
Hi hate when I see someone throwing a cigarette butt out of a car window it's really infuriates me,they need to have a penalty notice if spotted by the police or a law enforcement officer.
Many years ago, I was taking my kids on a day ou we were going to Rhyl. On the way we passed through a small town called Llangollen. The traffic was nose to tail stop/start. The houses open onto the footpath. We watched an Elderly Lady sweeping the footpath infant of her house.
The car in front of us was a Porsch cant remember the model. The top was down, radio blasting away. The young lady passenger through an Apple core onto the Footpath where the woman was sweeping. She looked at the woman, looked at the Apple core, picked it up and through it back into the car.
The claim that it costs over ÂŁ40m annually to clear up cigarette buts is self evident piffle based on false accounting in order to further the general anti smoking, anti tobacco company agenda. What has inevitably been done is to take the total cost of street sweeping and then apportion a part of that figure to cigarette buts. However, as that sweeping would be done anyway - there are not special cigarette but sweepers - there is no marginal cost associated with this activity. For the record, I'm not a smoker and despise litterbugs, but I equally despise those who promote specious arguments. Those who drop any sort of litter should be fined, but based on decades of be evidence this is a pretty vain and hopeless wish.
When did floors move outside buildings? I often hear this on cop shows, "Get on the floor!" when they want the suspect to get on the pavement, grass, road, etc.
Is the cost of litter clean up inclusive of all litter or have they somehow broke out the cost of cigarette buts?
isn't the course of justice already perverted enough?
they will crack down on smokers....but when are they going after the pedos?
Just don't litter vile people. Smokers and people that spit chewing gum out.
Doesn't that law also add, "and leave it" ?? So what are the parameters around that? How far from the litter do you have to be and how long does it have to be left for, to be considered "left behind"?
So councils are raking in lots of cash with fines for litter, parking ,use of bus lanes etc
It's not illegal if the litter is picked up and disposed of properly. No offence is committed and no one is obliged to provide details
Absolutely nothing compared to the cost of QE by the Bank Of England to the Tax Payer!!
I remember a case some 15yrs ago when a man was fined for dropping a ÂŁ10 note.
Right, so there would be no street cleaning if not for cig ends?
They should also charge chewing gum manufacturers. Go to any public place with paving on you will see thousands of unsightly chewing gum splodges which will stay there for years as the gum in them is virtually indestructible and adheres itself to the paving blocks. Far worse, in my opinion, than cigarette butts which will decompose fairly quickly.
What about tobacco companies that don't make cigarettes? Why should they and their customers have to pay for this?
They do know, just lazy. put the price up to cover all of the costs.
We pay already, it's called council tax,
My neighbour in tge apartmebt above just chucks them off the balcony into my garden and hanging baskets . I set up a camera reported it then I had the police at my door saying my neighbour had reported the camera implying it was harassment .I feel like I can't win no obe has done anything to deter her.
I smoke but will use street ashtrays and designated bins to dispose of the end when available. For some reason my local council have recently removed many bins from their positions on the streets/bus stops and not returned them. Not particularly helpful with regards to litter issues đ€
I've always argued that if more street ashtrays were made available I would use them, which negates sweeping them up constantly.
Ever been to Singapore? Itâs IMMACULATE.
The issue is the British people not giving a SHIZ. Itâs not hard to put stuff in a bin. The bins are everywhere.
Granted a lot donât get emptied often enough.
You should be given a chance to Bin it before a fine is issued
You had that chance before you committed a crime.
Itâs the GROUND. Flooring is something inside a building!
It's the responsibility of the end user as to how the product is disposed off. The manufacturer has no control over this.
I thought we already paid for cleaning the streets through our council tax. How can you single out a one type of litter for extra levies when all litter is cleaned together. By all means, tax all business that provide products that cause litter but targetting the tocacco industry alone will be seen as nothing more than another method to pick on said industry. I do not smoke so do not care one way or another but if such a law is passed then I want a refund of my council tax to cover my portion of what is raised by such a levy.
As for providing personal details to litter officers, these laws are only as good as the methods used to enforce them. If you run, cycle or make your escape on public transport who is going bother to pusue or try to trace you. My guess is nobody.
Charge the manufacturers all of the cleanup costs - This will force them to run advertising campaigns to encourage proper disposal and they will ultimately pass the cost onto the users. Users, knowing that a portion of the price are attributed to cleanup, will then ultimately pressurise their peers into disposing of their cigarettes correctly.
Same applies to manufacturers of chewing gum.
People who drop litter should be fined. Manufacturers should help pay the cost of cleaning litter as they can passes on the cost to those who drop the litter
Shouldn't the sale of cigarettes be banned anyway. There are 74,000 deaths per annum in the UK relating to smoking. That could save billions for the NHS which would allow other patients access to consultants. Regarding being given advice to not give details to an agent of the council, well. if the litterer pick up their litter and dispose of it properly then surely there's no offence committed
Tobacco companies won't be "forced" to share the cost. They will be told to pay a levy, which they will pass straight on to the smoker through increased prices. Council spending never goes down, so the smoker will pay, the tobacco manufacturer will be unaffected and the roads will look the same anyway. It's pure virtue signalling.
I think that if there were no cigarette butts on the floor anywhere in the country then the council clean up bill figures will still be ÂŁ40million
Cigarette butts and chewing gum should be covered by a deposit, like plastic bottles. Pet poop should be DNA tested, and tracked back to animals registered with their keepers and breeders.
Please can you get your podcasts on Apple Podcasts (i dont know what you have to do but all the good ones are there - it may appear via some automatic federated feed, who knows)
Your mates Lex Fridman and Andrew Huberman (I think I remember you expressing your admiration for them - they do the same as you in different domains of knowledge) have theirs on there.
I have no problem with littering fines IF the local authority has dome everything possible to provide waste recepticles.
However in the area I live in that most definately is not the case. The large village I live in has 5 bins that are never emptied until enough people have complained.
The last time time I can remember street sweeping taking place was about 5 years ago. We get a PCSO for half a day once fortnight. The litter bin outside the village shop fills up so quickly the chap who owns the shop empties it himself.
So what exactly are we paying council tax for again?
Neither, the government should pay for it. Why? Because the overwhelming majority of the cost of cigarettes is tax. So much tax it amounts to around 10% of the NHS budget. Smokers should not have to pay a penny and they should be allowed to litter as much as they like.
Erm..... We pay the tax, so we'd be paying for it. It's not the government's money... It's ours we pay for services.
@@kalv5912 yeah sure, by the bottom line is that smokers and tobacco companies pay their fair share already
Itâs much easier for them to go after the manufacturer than tens of thousands of smokers.
Is cigarette ash considered littering?
What proof is required to enforce payment ? Since no local authorities employ people solely to pick up discarded cigarettes there would be no money saved even if everyone stopped discarding them.The same number of employees would be required to sweep up/pick up litter etc.
This is something which has annoyed me for a very long time. People who smoke & then just toss their cigarette butts anywhere at all - usually on the ground. And for some unknown reason - they seem to think they have a right to do that, & don't seem to think that that constitutes "littering" - which probably reflects the level of intelligence of many people who smoke.
I believe that the litter-bugs who create the litter - no matter the nature of it - whether cigarette butts or something else - need to be fined & pay the penalty for that litter. The rest of the community should not be forced to clean up after the smokers who just toss their cigarette butts on the ground.
Another thing which really annoys me is all the chewing gum on the pavements. People who litter the pavements with their used chewing gum also need to be fined & pay for their litter to be cleaned up.
You get a penalty charge - not a fine.
We pay so much tax on tobacco products already. But littering is not just butts ... it's common sense to clear up after yourself, use a bin - in the UK there is plenty of provisions and considerations already made to reduce littering đ€Šââïž
As a smoker myself, I am understanding that it's my responsibility to dispose of Butts responsibly đ€·ââïž it's basic common sense and decency.
Get caught ... you pay.
I never threw a butt I put them in my pocket because I smoke filters.
I think it should be the person who drops the cigarette butt. My friend got fined ÂŁ70 in Southampton when caught dropping a butt in a shop doorway. Apparently not all local authorities issue fines though. I donât agree with any form of littering and wish all authorities had someone issuing fines in the town centres where it was cost effective to do so.
The litterers should pay for it!
As the manufacturer makes a none degradable but made from cellulose acetate they should be made to make them from a biodegradable material and if that costs more those choosing to smoke should pay
As for littering if the councils make sure there enough bins for those that choose not to bin it fine them
Companies should be joint liable for the littering. This will make them think more about developing better packaging. Otherwise just stop selling anything that will leave waste and accept the change in the world that will come because of it.
With the littering fines, the people issuing the fines should be giving the litterer an opportunity to pick the litter up (presumably to take into account unintentional dropping), which many of them don't do. It is this I have an issue with.
A person provides a product and you suggest they are responsible for what the customer does with it ?
Packaging ... my favorite. The Easter Egg.
When I was little the 'egg' was simply wrapped in foil, now the packaging costs more than the contents !
As for the HyViz litter wombles !?! (I have just realized how clever that reference is).
You'd think they might have developed a biodegradable filter by now...
@@noelward8047 Yes because you don't buy the packaging, that is just what the manufacturer chooses to present the item in. If they choose to use too much, or something that can't be easily and safely disposed of. or takes so long to decompose, that's something they should have to take responsibility for later on.
@@mharris7380 When purchasing an item you also buy the packaging.
While I am not a fan of Apple products they started a trend with minimalizing packaging.
Are you suggesting that a company that delivers eggs are responsible for disposal of the necessary containers ?
Next you will be demanding milk should be delivered in recyclable containers !
Why has nobody even thought of that !?!
@@noelward8047 No you don't also buy the packaging, and you will find that some manufacturers of some products are already tasked with being responsible for the packaging after it has been sold.
The tax on cigs is high enough to pay for clear up and hospital treatment.
I have never understood why people don't take their rubbish home,, ITS UNBELIEVABLE HOW THEY JUST THROW THEM OUT OF THE CAR WINDOW ,
Council should clean it up for free as we are paying even more now for council tax. Council's is responsible for small rubbish removal.
It should be those who drop the litter who pay. Disposable e-cigs are becoming more of a problem. They're much larger than cigarette butts and contain nasty chemicals in the battery.
If volunteers want to do litter picking they should be allowed on that one because I am a smoker but don't drop my ends but I have been stopped for picking up rubbish and I also have been stopped when I put my cigarette butt on the floor to put it out with intention of picking it up
Half and half yes.
If i get scammed by extortionate parking prices then they can pick up my crap