Thanks David! Was this Twinmotion 2022 or had 2023 already come out? We've had a great experience with TM23 but i'll be so torn if this new enscape connection with ArchiCAD drops soon!
Honest I cannot remember. Most likely 2023. Twinmotion will leapfrog enscape again in a few years is my opinion once they sort out everything over at unreal engine.
@@DavidTomic They're both making some really special products! I'm anxious to learn more about the connectivity between TwinMotion and Unreal and definitely look forward to those becoming more seemlessly connected. 🤞
i dont understand why people are saying twinmotion is beter than enscape, twin motion is laborious to achieve such a good external perspective like Enscape + vray
David, I am debating between Twin Motion and Enscape and since Archicad is now on v27, has your opinion changed? Would you go with Enscape starting now,? I don't have experience with either and am about to upgrade from Archicad v26 to v27
depending on what system your own. Enscape is way more advances on pc than Mac, so it a solid rendering choice, whilst Twinmotion is still miles ahead on Mac comparatively.
Good stuff! I haven't tried Enscape yet. I've used TM as a residential designer for a few years now. It's grown a lot, but still has a long way to go, especially interior lighting. The new 2.4 version of D5 Render blows TM out of the water as far as global illumination goes.
I understand that TM doesn't support PT on Mac but make this comparison at this moment is the same to compare scanline render to a v-ray render, there is no point to do that. It's obvious that Enscape will perform better 'cause it's software is designed to offer Ray Traced render to both OS and chips available on the market. I'm pretty sure TM will support PT on Mac as soon as possible and after that bring them to do a out of the box "render fight" and also make another one showing the same scene but with all the assets in place, objects, material, everything in the maximum quality on both softwares! Would be really awesome 'cause they're nice renderers, they both have pros and cons and have many things to improve!
When twinmotion and enscape are both in the fight I’ll definitely be making a comparison as this is something that truly interests me. Hopefully that video isn’t too far away!
Enscape was originally developed for use in Revit. It also works (and has for some time) with ArchiCAD, Rhino, and Vectorworks so I'm not sure where your info came from? I use both. My choice depends on how I want to present a project. If I want a more interactive presentation i.e. walking a client through a fully rendered model without UI symbols/graphics etc. I typically use Enscape. If I want better images/videos I'll use TM with path tracing. Comparing the two by just looking at raw image output after importing your model with no user input is ridiculous.
Enscape tiene mejor motor de render en tiempo real que twinmotion. Y si le dedicas tiempo a la escena en enscape, puedes tener hasta un resultado similar a patch tracer. Asi que shhh 🤫
this is not a fair comparison tbh, you used twin motions opengl renderer which has zero raytracing/pathtracing capability against the path tracer in enscape. A much better demonstration would have been, if you compared the path tracer in twinmotion against the path tracer in enscape, inscape might also win i never tested that, but that at least is a fair comparison . otherwise the video doesn't make much sense, it is like saying illustrator is better than photoshop as the graphics look sharper, ignoring that one software is pixel based the other is vector based. btw the path tracer in twinmotion can be activated with one click without going in any windows, so it still counts as out of the box.
Well no, because the point of the video is to illustrate that on Mac Twinmotion does not have those capabilities whilst enscape does. I actually use twinmotion so it’s more of a push to bring light to the topic and hopefully progress twinmotion faster
@@DavidTomic oh, sorry Windows user here, just got that twinmotion on mac has no path tracing yet! That is actually shocking ! well then i take what i said back and my condolences to all mac users.
Great video. Both are really good. But you can save tons of time with Enscape. And time is money. If thats not an issue for you, you can get better result with TM, but you will spend doble of time to get better results.
Those are not "out of the box" materials though. You are setting up Enscape/vray materials directly in Enscape which the program can read natively, while the TM model only got flat surfaces,. So you're comparing normal maps, no correct glass roughness etc. with rasterization versus real time on top. Not to mention that's an older version of TM as well, six months ago the new better version was out already... You could model simple geometries in Sketchup, divide the model in groups or colors in a matter of minutes and then actually setting up the scene in TM - which is probably even faster compared of doing it in ArchiCAD. This comparison is quite useless frankly speaking! 😅 No offense to Enscape, it seems a hell lot better compared to a few years back.
Windows get those updates quicker , I have spend my hard eraned money on a beefy gaming laptop to do my raytracing renders as soon as possible. did lumion and enscape come to mac?
@@vmafarah9473 funny how everyone thinks mac is so much better when its in fact overpriced garbage that doesnt even get support from actual professiona applications. but you get PRO in the name so that you can pat yoursel on the back and think youre the man lol pathetic
Your comparison is silly. Twinmotion Ray tracer doesn't work on mac, apple has yet to release a hardware accelerated ray tracing support, which won't happen any time soon. The ball is in Apple's camp. Its not which one is better, its which one works on Mac . I like enscape for many reasons, I use it because of a certain render look , but if I need realism or access to a vast library, I will choose Twinmotion any time.
That’s kind of the point of the video; trying to bring light to the fact twinmotion ray tracing doesn’t work and that Apple needs to hurry up with their hardware acceleration
@@NBCNothingButCrap I can render Raytracing like in raster then ydafq I have to use Raytracing and get hour long renders when you can do realtime and complete it 1/20th time in high quality.
I have been waiting for a video like this, for the longest time! You are the best Mate, Keep it up!
More to come!
I believe enscape is best for time consumption especially if clients wants to see something quick
Great video, I fell like trying Enscape now....I have Parallels in y Mac for Revit, so could you use it to render it with Enscape?
Thanks David! Was this Twinmotion 2022 or had 2023 already come out? We've had a great experience with TM23 but i'll be so torn if this new enscape connection with ArchiCAD drops soon!
Honest I cannot remember. Most likely 2023. Twinmotion will leapfrog enscape again in a few years is my opinion once they sort out everything over at unreal engine.
@@DavidTomic They're both making some really special products! I'm anxious to learn more about the connectivity between TwinMotion and Unreal and definitely look forward to those becoming more seemlessly connected. 🤞
i dont understand why people are saying twinmotion is beter than enscape, twin motion is laborious to achieve such a good external perspective like Enscape + vray
David, I am debating between Twin Motion and Enscape and since Archicad is now on v27, has your opinion changed? Would you go with Enscape starting now,? I don't have experience with either and am about to upgrade from Archicad v26 to v27
depending on what system your own. Enscape is way more advances on pc than Mac, so it a solid rendering choice, whilst Twinmotion is still miles ahead on Mac comparatively.
Twinmotion is definitely better especially if your going for realism. Just turn on Path Tracing and its super ahead of its competitors.
yes sir but when you go to asset manager of twinmotion is a pretty shit stuff
Does m1 macbook air or pro able run the path tracing of twinmotion
enscape has ray tracing.
@@nunomota9838 sketchfab and quixel is integrated into TM. so it has better assets
pero su motor de render en tiempo real es de lo peor que hay 🤢🤢
Have you tried twinmotion to unreal 5? Be cool to see how escape stacks up to unreal 5 after importing from twinmotion.
Haven’t for a while now, but would be a valuable exercise for sure
Good day, sir
What do you think is the best rendering software to get us started?
I’ve made a video on this in the past if you’d like to watch it :)
enscape
Good stuff! I haven't tried Enscape yet. I've used TM as a residential designer for a few years now. It's grown a lot, but still has a long way to go, especially interior lighting. The new 2.4 version of D5 Render blows TM out of the water as far as global illumination goes.
I agree. The only issue with D5 is it is windows exclusive for the time being
If u wanted to do an apples to apples comparison switch on PT in TM. You're comparing raster mode to raytraced mode.
The whole point is that you can’t do that on a Mac.
@David Tomic that's right...not even the next upgtade.
I understand that TM doesn't support PT on Mac but make this comparison at this moment is the same to compare scanline render to a v-ray render, there is no point to do that. It's obvious that Enscape will perform better 'cause it's software is designed to offer Ray Traced render to both OS and chips available on the market. I'm pretty sure TM will support PT on Mac as soon as possible and after that bring them to do a out of the box "render fight" and also make another one showing the same scene but with all the assets in place, objects, material, everything in the maximum quality on both softwares! Would be really awesome 'cause they're nice renderers, they both have pros and cons and have many things to improve!
When twinmotion and enscape are both in the fight I’ll definitely be making a comparison as this is something that truly interests me. Hopefully that video isn’t too far away!
@@DavidTomic Me too David!!! Let's wait for the next TM release and we'll see if they will support PT for Mac, I hope so!
I really wish twin motion impoves soon ! I really enjoy rendering in it ! Its almost like playing a game lol
That's because I believe its based on Unreal Engine 5 lol
i'm like
please a tuto to render with enscape
Enscape was originally developed for use in Revit. It also works (and has for some time) with ArchiCAD, Rhino, and Vectorworks so I'm not sure where your info came from?
I use both. My choice depends on how I want to present a project. If I want a more interactive presentation i.e. walking a client through a fully rendered model without UI symbols/graphics etc. I typically use Enscape. If I want better images/videos I'll use TM with path tracing.
Comparing the two by just looking at raw image output after importing your model with no user input is ridiculous.
This is a Mac comparison. Which you are correct enscape has been around for years but has only JUST started to be compatible with Mac.
Enscape tiene mejor motor de render en tiempo real que twinmotion. Y si le dedicas tiempo a la escena en enscape, puedes tener hasta un resultado similar a patch tracer. Asi que shhh 🤫
Title correction: "Enscape vs TwinMotion Which is Better on MAC?"
yea except once you develop the scene further in each engine for a decent render, Twinmotion is the clear winner in all regards.
this is not a fair comparison tbh, you used twin motions opengl renderer which has zero raytracing/pathtracing capability against the path tracer in enscape. A much better demonstration would have been, if you compared the path tracer in twinmotion against the path tracer in enscape, inscape might also win i never tested that, but that at least is a fair comparison . otherwise the video doesn't make much sense, it is like saying illustrator is better than photoshop as the graphics look sharper, ignoring that one software is pixel based the other is vector based. btw the path tracer in twinmotion can be activated with one click without going in any windows, so it still counts as out of the box.
Well no, because the point of the video is to illustrate that on Mac Twinmotion does not have those capabilities whilst enscape does. I actually use twinmotion so it’s more of a push to bring light to the topic and hopefully progress twinmotion faster
@@DavidTomic oh, sorry Windows user here, just got that twinmotion on mac has no path tracing yet! That is actually shocking ! well then i take what i said back and my condolences to all mac users.
Great video. Both are really good. But you can save tons of time with Enscape. And time is money. If thats not an issue for you, you can get better result with TM, but you will spend doble of time to get better results.
Very true!
Wrong angle of view, this is not correct the comparison
Those are not "out of the box" materials though. You are setting up Enscape/vray materials directly in Enscape which the program can read natively, while the TM model only got flat surfaces,. So you're comparing normal maps, no correct glass roughness etc. with rasterization versus real time on top. Not to mention that's an older version of TM as well, six months ago the new better version was out already...
You could model simple geometries in Sketchup, divide the model in groups or colors in a matter of minutes and then actually setting up the scene in TM - which is probably even faster compared of doing it in ArchiCAD. This comparison is quite useless frankly speaking! 😅
No offense to Enscape, it seems a hell lot better compared to a few years back.
Lol. Turn on skydome & Path tracer in Twinmotion
Keep laughing.
Only those on Windows do that. Did you notice that there is no such function on Mac?
@@Gojanel sounds like a personal problem ... lol
@@londontrotter7481 clown
Windows get those updates quicker , I have spend my hard eraned money on a beefy gaming laptop to do my raytracing renders as soon as possible. did lumion and enscape come to mac?
@@vmafarah9473 funny how everyone thinks mac is so much better when its in fact overpriced garbage that doesnt even get support from actual professiona applications. but you get PRO in the name so that you can pat yoursel on the back and think youre the man lol pathetic
path tracing come onn just 1 click
I guess your video card doesn't support raytrace? I get super photorealistic images with Twinmotion raytrace.
Your comparison is silly. Twinmotion Ray tracer doesn't work on mac, apple has yet to release a hardware accelerated ray tracing support, which won't happen any time soon. The ball is in Apple's camp. Its not which one is better, its which one works on Mac . I like enscape for many reasons, I use it because of a certain render look , but if I need realism or access to a vast library, I will choose Twinmotion any time.
That’s kind of the point of the video; trying to bring light to the fact twinmotion ray tracing doesn’t work and that Apple needs to hurry up with their hardware acceleration
En enscape puedes tener un resultado similar al patch tracer si le dedicas tiempo...
No RTX.. No thanks.
Who need RTX when you know how to handle raster same as Raytracing and give 10X fps speed in Vport . and when you can model it like a game.
@@vmafarah9473 Who need UE5 to run without it full features?. your 10x fps are useless if your quality low.
@@NBCNothingButCrap I can render Raytracing like in raster then ydafq I have to use Raytracing and get hour long renders when you can do realtime and complete it 1/20th time in high quality.
yo con mi gtx 1050ti 4gb tengo resultados similares al patch tracer utilizando el motor de render en tiempo real de enscape. Asi que shh 🤫🤫
@@vmafarah9473 baking lighting is time consuming and has to be done to every change you make to your project, so yeah you should shut up
You could activate path tracer in Twinmotion!!!
Not on Mac, hence the entire point of the video.