Pediments- How to and how NOT to. Everything you need to know!
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- Brent shares this classical element that is often not built correctly and yet when it is done well it is magical. Come learn about the history of and the tricks you need to practice to build it well. Come check it out.
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Long time architectural woodworker here. Currently addressing an issue a friend and neighbor recently had with a front door replacement.
The young cubs didn't do it right and I found this vid searching for examples of proper pediment building to help rectify the conflict.
All that to say, outstanding presentation, sir. I'm a new subscriber to your channel. Keep up the good work
Welcome aboard. Thanks so much.
I think it was Vitruvius who said "macmansionus absurdium".
Hilarious.
McMansions should be outlawed as they hurt my brain.
I am so lost watching you because of the names of all the parts of trim. I have been a building contractor for 30 years and worked primarily with internationally known architects. I feel like I am starting over in my education. Your videos are encouraging me to want more of them and really learn this. I am so looking forward to your book.
Nice. Thanks for the feedback.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who gets lost in the terminology. This man is the master of classical molding.
Look forward to seeing you show us how to build a pediment in the shop. That will be really helpful.
Coming soon!
Are there any pattern books that show the details how to do these? I have a source that shows how to do the “poor man’s” cornice but not the more formal split fillet.
Thanks so much for your lessons!
It's very important for many of us to understand the really beautiful architectural solutions from the past.
All the best
My pleasure! Thx for watching.
Another great upload. Looking forward to the next one
Thank you 👍
Thank you for yet another great installment...
Glad you enjoyed it
Appreciate your knowledge...thank you!
My pleasure!
Can’t wait to watch you build one.
Coming soon.
This is a big help, were currently designing the front porch for our 1890s victorian and want to make sure we get it right. The rest of the exterior trim is pretty simple so trying to design a pediment for our porch that is also simple has been tricky.
Nice, glad it helped.
Love brents knowledge
Thanks!
For some really great pediments, it's hard to beat what we find in Vicenza (and environs), the primary stomping ground for Andrea Palladio. Even on my first visit there some 50 years ago as young southern US undergraduate girl with no particular knowledge of architecture, and only the typical smattering knowledge of art and history, I could not believe how the magical beauty and proportions of the buildings and their details just looked so RIGHT to me. It was love at first sight, and I knew I was hooked for life.
Amen. Thx for sharing.
Great video, thanks.
Glad you liked it!
i love you brent hull
Haha, thx
real cool at the end
Thanks.
That 309 entryway at 0:22 is absolutely beautiful!
I know right!
The challenge is the miter on the return. The cyma recta / reversea needs to be modified in order to intersect properly. This really is a beast when trying to run one in-situ with stucco.
My next video on building the pediment should be out soon. a couple tricks will help you get it right.
You can certainly go down a rabbit whole studding this topic. !!
Great video 👍
Absolutely! I hope it helps.
This is by far my favorite feature and the most fun to build. Other than the windows I believe it is the most important feature of a structure. It gives it personality and life. I just always copied what was there. (I live in New England). This is by far the one thing that I would say 90 % of not only builders but architects get wrong. It drives me crazy because the examples are right in your face how could anyone not see? But they don't haha. I always learn something and you make it make sense it a short amount of time. I bet the class you studied at was a lot longer than 14 minutes. ha
My favorite too. You're very smart to copy the good ones all around you. Congrats.
Hello
I am a sculptor and doing architectural ornament. There are so many things and methods I need learn about classical architecture. Sice last week I was trying to find the method of developing the pediment. Thank good I found this video. It would great if you could use the actual compass to tell us the geometric points. Thank you
Good idea. Thanks.
Great video! That Vitruvius method gets you to 22.5 too (well, 1:4.5 so 22.2) so that's pretty cool. Should this slope be matched for slope on roof everywhere on the house or can pediments and dormers by lower than the main roof slope?
Also, I love that there's naming for everything. It is a language of its own.
Thanks!! Kind of depends, there is a great deal of variety depending on style and era!
According to Marianne Cusato the main roof should be steepest, followed by secondary roofs, then the pediment.
Great video as usual. Do the same rules apply to gable ends? AFAIK everything would be the same, except the horizontal part usually turns into the wall forming a cornice or eave return, or alternatively can continue just like a pediment.
Yes, if were talking about the same place. THanks!
The top of the horizontal part discussed at 8:30-9:00 is called a pent roof if we are talking about an exterior pediment. Everyone, I mean everyone makes them too steep. They need flashing and/or shingles but only a 3:12 pitch ( 10-15 degrees)to shed water. It is not a real roof as mentioned.
Thanks!!
Great explanations! Only."equilateral" triangle have equal sides all around.
Got it. Misspoke.
I have no clue what's going on here, but looks cool. And gives me some ideas.
LOL! Well it will make more sense when I put it together. Coming soon! Thanks for watching.
No one does what you do. Thank you.
Of course! Your welcome.
Hi Brent, this is Max from Argentina, i'm really fascinated with your videos.
I just bought an english house from the early 1900 (i think this is Edwardian style) and i can observe what you teach in every corner of the house with his carpentry, masonry, wooden floors, doors, proportions, etc...
Regarding this last, proportions, this is something that i'm still don't getting when talking about windows and doors. I can assume that if i have an 12ft ceiling, the heigh of the door belongs to the "column" element of the cassical order and the Arquitrave is the door's casing. This is like that in the house.
My big doubts are those:
- What the door's wide is related with?
- Which is the separation from the floor for a window? (column's base?)
- Which are the proportions for a window with this ceiling heigh?
Always talking about english styled houses, like Victorian and Edwardian.
There are some houses in the neighborhood with 13ft ceiling and windows are of course, taler. I would like to be able to calculate it by my self.
I'm reading a lot of antique books and learning so much, but this is something that i still can't find.
Thanks a lot!
Hope i ever be able to visit your shop.
Thanks for the question. If you want, you can send me an email to info@brenthull.com. You can include pics and i can help you resolve this.
Quickly: Door widths correlate to casing widths. 1:6 ratio
The window sill height correlates to pedestal cap height
Proportions of windows vary by style, there are many sizes.
Thanks for watching.
Is there any lesson about the curved pediment? I need to develop a half curved pediment on a door. The width of the door is 3.5 feet and height is 7 feet. How I can calculate the proportion
Yes, send me an email to info@brenthull.com and I'll send you some patterns from historic books.
What about the poor man's cornice? It was a traditional option for simpler eave returns? So that you didn't have to produce a separate profile for the rake, but also wouldn't end up with the unfortunate "double Cyma".
There are many solutions to avoid this, not all are good.
Using the formula: degrees=tan^-1 (rise/run) the degree of a 1:4.5 pitch is 12.53 not 22.5 (or 22.2 as stated below). What am I missing?
Sorry, I'm not following your math or question. Let me know or send an email to info@brenthull.com Happy to help.
Out of what is the reversed challenge pediment made? Is it limestone?
I believe Marble.
That aesthetic is likely expressed as the golden ratio. Plenty of examples in Classical architecture and in Japanese architecture.
Word!
I'm depressed because this video didn't have the angelic, Narnia introduction that I've grown to love from the trim lord, Brent Hull.
LOL, next time.
@@BrentHull Thank you sir! I watch your videos a lot and I'm learning so much from you.
Isosceles triangles have two equal sides- equilateral has all equal sides... (:
Thanks!!
Fun fact: tympanum is the medical term for eardrum.
Wow, good to know. Thanks.