The State of MOBA Games
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2021
- it's so sad funke died of moba.
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Predecessor
www.predecessorgame.com/
Gigantic Heaven Discord
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Project Stamina
projectstamina.com/
I started playing smite ~2 years ago and tried out most of these other mobas over the last year, which is why I wanted to make this kinda video simplifying the genre down for people. If you or anyone you know suffers from moba enjoyment, reach out to them, offer emotional support.
favorite smite gods: cthulu, set, chernobog, janus, horus
fav dota heroes: brewmaster (ikr), templar assassin
fav league champs: azir, orianna, warwick (i don't have every champ) - Hry
I am once again pouring one out for Gigantic.
Did anyone else enjoy Crucible?
Lazer chicken vs danger noodle needs to come back.
Lazer chicken vs danger noodle needs to come back.
Lazer chicken vs danger noodle needs to come back.
sadge
I've never liked MOBA's, but it's good to know that MOBA fans don't either.
Same
Yeah, I used to like League, but my PC slowly ended up being unable to run it. It's definitely not fun playing with people just as bad as you are who are in a seathing rage for half an hour because you didn't gank when they were at 5% health.
Basically, it's a slow experience, and it just ends up being a waste of time unless you're on discord with friends. But then, why not play a different game?
@@AxxLAfriku My name's actually Jude, but I'm open to the idea.
You're spot on
Dota 2 took me like a hundred hour of banging my head agaisnt a wall to just click and suddenly I'm at 2k+ hours and just decent at the game, it's really horrendous to learn but once you're there it feels like there's so much to experiment and do compared to most games
I love that every MOBA inexplicably has Sun Wukong in their game. He is the MOBA constant for some reason.
Oh I can think of about 1.412 billion reasons.
@@00110000 I can think of 2.820 billion reasons
@@larssnakes4575 I can think of 3.120 billion reasons
Monke
Chinese company implement Chinese character 😱
I felt it in my soul when he said “Destiny 2 is not a game, it’s a job”
I just like being a Warlock and shitting out Vortex grenades
update: just learned project stamina is on indefinite hiatus so that's great
never played MNC or vainglory but those are worth a mention too
please don't not stop uploading
Funny
I am speed
Heroes of the chore
Heroes of the bore
"So why don't you wanna play League with me again?"
"Because it's League"
fair
It costs to much. Sanity, will to live, general sense of joy and/wonder, all immediately down the hole the moment you click install
Because he have to say goodbye to his life
@@a_guy_in_orange7230 noted
LoL has long since stopped being the game millions have loved in the past. It's now just about making every new champion mechanically broken and as safe from a marketability standpoint as possible, all to maximise their sales and the sales of their skins by trying to appeal to as wide of a consumer base as possible, resulting in a bland and soulless experience. We need a new MOBA that brings back the LoL of 2012-2015.
To be honest, League is just too similar and simultaneously simpler than DOTA 2 for me to ever go back. SMITE is simpler, too, but has that unique constant 3rd person action to back it up. Riot should consider some innovation.
I played League for 3 weeks. Two days went to studying the game so I knew what I was getting into. I picked a couple characters and started the grind for levels and actually playing the game. When people warned me about how toxic and unwelcoming the community was were no exaggerating. After non stop harassment in just the casual modes I uninstalled. Best decision I ever made.
@@sukivlied just.. no
@Zold least biased G*mer
@Zold have u ever even played a moba
there is legitimately no reason to start playing mobas unless you have 4 friends who will play with you every game. even if you know what you're doing, league of legends isn't fun and there's an 80% chance that your win or loss will be determined by who you're matched with or who's on the enemy team. you're throwing at the very least 15 minutes into a garbage can over and over.
You are lying. Noobs get placed into noob queue when they start the game. Having a toxic experience in low levels is because you made a smurf and got placed into smurf queue with other toxic people. There's no way a genuinely new player knows any terminology or what troll and off-meta picks are.
As someone who loves mastering skills more than skill shots, I naturally gravitated to Dota 2. I still can't believe there aren't more games that allow multiple unit control across the map like RTS games, I enjoy how difficult it is and eventually being able to be physically present at multiple places and have control over the entire map. It's real tiring but real satisfying too.
play chen, enchantress, enigma, lone, invoker is not the same but you can give it a try specially chen
also brewmaster
Meepoooooooo
@@mohdiqbalzulkifli532 FORGOT ABOUT HIM GLOBAL PRESENCE 5 HEROES XD
There is no LoL or Smite hero like DOOM. Fucker is one the reasons I play dota over anything else. That ulti hits diff
I really enjoyed Battlerite since it basically just felt like fast-paced MOBA teamfights, but after their lazy marketing campaigns failed, they gave up on the original game and pivoted to making a battle royale :(
and the battle royale got dead too AND i've bought both of them in EA, it's so heartbreaking, it was my favorite moba
now I must slave to lol
Battlerite was like a tag-team fighting game, yeah it got skillshots and that like a moba but most of the core essentials were a lot like street fighter or marvel vs capcom, if the campaign was more focused on that spectrum, with more arena fighter rather than ''we appeal to whatever the new trend is that will be killed by fournights'' i think it would've survive, i played recently out of nostalgia and it still slaps, but playing with the same 5 people wasn't so fun
Battlerite was the shit man...
I hope fangs will take its place, game looks cool but very unfinished
If you look at their content schedule and their concurrent player counts even when they were full on adding lots of content the game was dying extremely fast. No type of updates to the game made people stick around. It was pretty much doomed to die at some point. Battle royal didn't kill it, they only made that as a last ditch effort to try to hold a playerbase. It's annoying when that's brought up as the reason for it dying. It's like people can't comprehend the game itself was going to die anyways. It's like a scapegoat.
I miss battlerite..
"I wouldn't recommend Destiny 2 cuz it's not a video game; it's a job."
Damn that hurts, off to do my weekly bounties again.
Me, a genshin player:
-hold my 20 daily farming routes
something something, where did that bring you? back to destiny 2
@@TheKirik71 eh genshin is not even that bad with daily things to farm
*Black Desert* _has left the chat_
i got 1.8k hrs on d2 help me
Smite has now luckily improved a bit on the items, removing the old starting items and impleting and entire new more interesting set, and removing boots entirely from the game, so you dont HAVE to buy something just to gain movement speed. But yes, the old gods need a rework, you can clearly feel the difference mechanically between old and new.
boots gang >:(
It's still mindnumbingly boring to me. It's actually even more toxic than league. How tf can I be lvl 10 and see people flame each other like hardstuck silvers every other game? Not to mention no matter which mode I play, I'm over it five minutes into starting. The skins and chests are overpriced and gambly af. There's literally no production costs outside of paying someone to make the models, and they're pricing them as if the economy isn't what it is currently. Worst of all, I'm sick of going against the same gods every damn game. I've played for 13 levels and I already feel like I've had more than enough of it for one lifetime.
@@toxihex876 That's a very good question. I've played both League and Smite for thousands of hours, and personally League is way more toxic. Sure every game has some form of toxicity, but since most of the communication is through VGS in Smite, I rarely see people type anything at all. The skin thing is fair I guess, I've never really minded the price since I've always thought the skin design in Smite was S tier compared to a lot of other games so you get what you pay for, and you get a lot of free skins any way, so I've haven't thought about it. Last thing is you are a low level, so people don't have all the gods is my only answer really. I bought the god pack when the game was in closed beta and is to this day the most value I've gotten from 25 euro.
Heroes of the Storm featured for A FULL SECOND on this video!!! It's coming back I tells ya, the game isn't dead I tells ya!
ARAM tho
"Destiny is not a game. It's a job."
All the friends I'll lose if I said that in the group chat.
As someone who's put at least 1700 hours into destiny and still hate it and love it, it's definitely a job at times XD. Like the saying goes " I hate destiny, it's my favorite game".
@@MrSchwifty327 Think destiny is grindy wait till you play warframe. I actually find destiny's grind to be quite tolerable.
i feel the same. I literally cannot be bothered running a raid this week
@@stephenlee1664 I think I prefer the loot loop of Warframe for a very simple reason. In Destiny you're always chasing the illusive god roll or a certain exotic. In Warframe if you go hunt for A you'll find materials and blueprints for B, C through Z. This opens a venue of revaluating my goal build based on my new findings. This adds a layer of versatility I didn't find in Destiny. Even if 1:1 seeking a certain piece in Warframe is longer you're always rechecking your viable build.
At least that was my impression when I gave it a try.
Idk the grind in destiny just doesn’t seem that bad
maybe it’s because i also like animal crossing and that game is literally just doing chores the video game
I love smite.
You rock
Cancel that
x99
Bruh
Game summed up in one phrase. I live for it.
You rock
Cancel that
Servers crash
I love smite
You rock
Just need Arena leaderboard and ranked rewards, clan wars, actual event, cheaper skins, adding ols fun gamemodes into match of thr day rotation...
Gigantic's back and immediately thought of this video.
Gigantic was SOOO good, I especially loved the art style and really miss the game, I wish I had a pc or ps4 to try out paragon but I'm not overly sad I missed out when everything's all said and done
“Destiny is not a game, it’s a job.” If that isn’t the truest thing someone has said about this game…
So?
@@Luzaku_kiss so what? idk what you want
@@Luzaku_kiss Play at your own risk.
I dont get it never played destiny
@@eloelo6944 I'll just say, there is a lot of time commitment. It takes a long time to get to endgame content.
Project: Stamina kind of imploded due to a dispute between the developers and lead producer, and while they say the project is paused until they find a new lead and devs I don't have very high hopes for the future of the game.
Yes
Another one bites the dust
What exactly happened?
@@swordguy6368 Unfortunately all I know is that they got into a dispute. I think it was either a difference in creative vision or an issue with people not being paid.
@@FriendlyShep Well, shit then I guess.
05:33 *_Why the fuck is that toast flying?_*
Jazze, 2021
I've just heard about gigantic from this video and I'm already saddened by its death. It looks adorable, digestible and actually fun to play
"I wouldn't recommend Destiny 2, it's not a video game but a job."
ABOUT SUMS IT UP.
I mean yeah it's an MMO those are fundamentally designed to suck your time and cash
Lol as a huge destiny player ya this is true haha
"This kind of design was too fun to be mainstream" damn, funke spitting sad truths
Man the closest thing to a MOBA shooter we got was Monday Night Combat. A weird Xbox Arcade game that died years ago but I swear was one of the most fun experiences. It had all the fancy characters that were basically TF2 classes combined with some seriously cool maps and a world that was actually interesting. Bots ran around the map and you had to pew pew em for upgrades and it was great. I miss that game
As a person who played battle born
Incursion was pretty much the Mona game mode
You could use shards (money) to buy the relics (items)
You escort minions to big bots to win and both teams could buy turret defenses and healing stations
You can also hire thrall mercenaries by killing them and claim the pad
The maps were more 1 main travel lane and shard stars and thralls were on the sides and sometimes under
Another moba like gameplay was where you had to escort minion bots to be eaten by a robot god
2 lanes no thrall mercenaries save 800 shards to buy fat bot worth more points
And yeah no after typing this I’m going to go cry
"I really like Hi-Rez games, they're a little derivative and janky, but they know what makes a game fun to play" is the most accurate description of Hi-Rez I've ever seen
Scarily accurate
I met a few devs from there, they seemed really cool, and they were grateful that they don't work at Blizzard, because blizzard employees sleep in their cars.
I would honestly beg to differ.
Smite always felt like a half baked project for the scale it was trying to tackle.
Paragon felt like what Smite was trying to be. If you took Paragon's graphics and sound design and its stance on character kits and applied it to Smite, it'd be such a better game.
Such a shame that game died and we're still stuck with this... Honestly disappointing title that I WISH I could like.
@@Impalingthorn Tribes:Ascend was an amazing game that consumed hundreds of hours of my life. I've always resented Smite for being the reason it was killed.
pls bring back tribes :(
HOTS was very fun. Short 15-22 minute games. If you lose a game no biggy, just do another round. I enjoyed not having to commit 1h for a game.
The time investment is the main reason I stopped playing MOBAs. Now I'm spending 1 1/2 hours on alerts in Planetside 2 because at least I can choose mostly who I play with
yeah i've memed about HOTS but it's actually a pretty snackable moba where you can just jump into fights and upgrade talents on the spot rather than buying items on the respawn timer, there are some pretty fun heroes in it but I personally like the bigger map of other mobas more than hots compacted (but unique) jungle system so I ended up just focusing on the mobas that are more specialized instead
damn if 20 minute games are considere short I'm not gonna get into any moba
I thought you were dead
The worst part of HOTS was the team leveling aspect. Your lane opponent getting stronger because another lane is losing feels really bad
Honestly, Paragon was amazing, I'm both suprised and not suprised someone is trying to bring it back. Thanks for the head up. Would be sick to play Gideon some more.
If anyone remembers nosgoth, you'd know the pain of that one shutting down. Used to be a favorite of mine, each side has unique classes and none play the same as each other for either side
Will forever miss Gigantic and hope that one day, a larger company decides to come up with something remotely similar.
I personally think original Paragon is often remembered with rose-tinted glasses. The game was great, but it also had a lot of flaws. Despite bringing a lot of innovation and a fresh look to the genre, it was unnecessarily inaccessible and - in my eyes - not as fun as it had the potential to be. Coming from Smite and having given both Gigantic and Paragon a fair amount of play, Gigantic felt significantly more fluid, polished and accessible while also having more unique characters.
I hope Predecessor will learn from this and especially put a strong focus on the new player experience to build a solid fan base.
I hope that day comes for you. I never got to play Gigantic but have heard great things about it from you, been watching you since season 3 smite. Keep up the great content
I would give anything to have a world where Gigantic was still alive and well, I found it towards the end of its life cycle and it felt so fucking amazing to play , RIP
I remember being forced to use a VPN then getting banned after 2 weeks because the stupid fucking client to download and run the game banned Egypt, and ngl Gigantic is gonna stay as one of my favorite shooter/moba experiences. (I miss announcer mommy so bad and tentacle mommy too)
It
Is
So
Fucking
Good
@@ralek592 why was Egypt banned ?
SMITE CZcamsR SPOTTED!
Adding this one to the pile....
"if you know anything about Hawken", Whomst was awakened the ancient one
The name "HAWKEN" awakened some fucking repressed memories in me ngl.
Shit i played Hawken the other day,
Nothing left but bots tho.
bruh i never heard about it but this comment with ironically ancient meme made me burst out laughing
meanwhile me still playing Future Cop LAPD Precint Assault mode, which is like the game that inspired the Aeon of Strife mod for Starcraft:
"mortals....."
guess you can say it was a hawakening
(like if you understood the reference)
Bro the intro to the paragon bit had me crying, from both laughter and sadness. One day we'll get it back
great video, I played so much paragon and loved it, incredibly hyped for predecessor
"Yes"
"I'm the greatest"
"Quiet"
"Enemies have returned"
"Bye!"
“Thanks”
“Wait”
“Cancel that”
*player dies*
ally that is 1/4/2: You rock! Cancel that!
Inserts older and wiser merlin
... *AHWOOWOOWOO or some such*
@@stephcupid2161 insert degen weebs playing amateratsu spamming "konichiwa"
@@klaptone9012 don't gotta call me out bro
For those who don't speak VGS at 3:57
"Yes"
"I'm the greatest"
"Quiet!"
"Enemies have returned"
"Bye"
Meta joke because he probably meant to say "Thanks" (VVT) on the fourth one but messed up.
God I fucking miss Tribes.
VEW
VEW
VEW
Came here after Gigantic: Infinite Rampage got announced. Hope it gets the attention it deserves this time
after multiple recommended videos for weeks from you, I finally checked one out, and all I can say is I wish I did it sooner. Great video dude
Hi-rez's games ARE fun
The problem is the management of the company
and how it treats its contracted freelancers like punkduck
Ok
For me, it's the rotation of the original dev team out of Paladins that hurts my soul. I've been playing that game since OB38 (A long time) and at that time the game was majority projectile, high ttk, high mobility, huge skill/prediction ceiling, etc.
Since then, they've doubled the speed of most projectiles, and the new dev team doesn't seem to understand how to make characters that really feel like the original Paladins cast-- And by this I mean that nearly every new character is either a rifler or a rapid fire hitscan of some variety.
Damage wasn't meant to be hitscan originally because dodging and predicting and outplaying was a huge focus and strength of the game. But with everything being rapid fire hitscan, and with the TTK being massively lowered, they'd really destroyed a lot of the identity of the game that made it so good originally.
/rant
I just can't get over the shameful unoriginality of their work. They do literally nothing original. Companies like Ubisoft, Activision and EA get rightly told off for being unoriginal and that criticism is non-existent to Hi-Rez which I find to be even more unoriginal than those three.
@@SirNarax don't care
"Haha *snort* you must be so poor then. Can't even purchase overwatch xddd"
I put more hours into ow than I wish I had, and still wish I could play more paladins with my friends.
Tribes Ascend shouldn't have died
And I only don't play more smite because I'm a DOTA player at heart
Duo: "Enemy missing left"
Solo: "Enemy missing right"
Mid: *dies*
Also Mid: "jungle diff"
Jungle: *Kills Enemy Mid*
Mid: "Stop Stealing My Farm"
Obvs, what do you expect him to do, pay attention? Aint nobody got time
You, the jungler, thinking you're right and mid shouldn't have gotten tower dove by the jungle and support for the 3rd time in a row without you counter ganking or taking an objective while they dive mid to punish them like a jungle with a brain would have.
Sorry I don't speak virgin
@@bumpkin8009 you’re so sick bro maybe I’ll be a Chad like you one day
Been rewatching some of your old videos and when you brought up Haken I think a piece of me died all over again thank you for this trip down memory lane, I hated it (good vid tho 10/10)
Hey @FUNKe have you ever heard of Monday Night Combat? It was literally a third person shooter MOBA in the style of a mainstream sports league like NFL or NBA, with announcers that had stylized dialogue in the same vein.
Monday Night Combat was so good. Had no idea what a MOBA was when I played it, just knew that the game was fun as hell
"I wouldn't recommend destiny two, it's not a game it's a job"
Man, have you even seen warframe
Warframe is a job just to understand what you are doing...
Someone once said, "If you enjoy your job, then you'll never work a day in your life."
At least in warframe the hours spent count somehow, in destiny the difference of a player with 1k hours and another with 100 is non existent.
Ive played hundreds of hours as both, imo D2 is more of a job but then again I've also played alot more of D2 than Warframe
yeah but warframe has the good sense not to make time mandatory at least - I can put the game down and pick it back up in a month without missing a beat.
All I know about MOBAs are they are good at dying, "If your making a MOBA just assume it will die", its kinda like all the dead battle royal games we have had recently. Shame none of the devs thought to go the non-live service model and let the community host servers.
The market got satuated with DOTA2 and LoL, Smite managed to have enough of a twist and good timing to stay around and Hots had Blizzard behind them who were still on top of their throne at that time. Everybody else either didn't have any room or wasn't good enough. Same is true for BR, you need an interesting twist or you won't get passed the big hitters, there is no niche for same as we already had just worse and with less players, please give us you money.
Battleborn got mentioned in the vid but as someone that had played Battleborn, it really wasn't that good. It died because it was fairly inaccessable, had bad shooting mechanics, shitty matchmaking and released at the same time as OW which was much smoother to play and was fun the moment you picked it up. Paragon was a tedious Smite, it came much later than Smite too without adding enough to make it worthwhile. Games die because they deserve to die most of the time.
@@Wolfsschamane Very true; there's also sunk cost for learning the game, a large population requirement, and good balancing is HARD. Another similar problem mmorpgs face when competing with WoW in that WoW has had years to build up content but for moba's it's viable heroes. And that's without considering the esports side of things.
i loved both gigantic and paragon and i been following predecessor since i found out about it like 3 year ago i think i tried every game you mention but something always bring me back to league even if i hate it. Thanks for mentioning the gigantic remake
heroes of the storm is on its last legs but is legitimately the best moba I've ever played. Excellent engine, excellent mechanics, the heroes are very cool and have quite differentiated mechanics, relatively balanced if played in ranked/premade teams. Dunkey praised it recently. Its also got a variety of maps, with objectives, no CSing and focusing on team working and teamfights.
Same! It's a shame that its dying.. :(
actually your opinion is bad and so is heroes of the storm
@@jdizzle8801 i love you jdizzle when ou droppin your next album
HoTS is the superior MOBA, if it was popular I would have left League years ago
@@jdizzle8801 please respond
"Destiny 2 isn't a game, its a job" will never not be accurate.
also, Gambit as a MOBA isn't something i ever considered but its definitely interesting
Funke: Destiny is a job, and no one cares about Gambit
Me a Reckoner: Yeah I see that
Feel ya there
Every time I see a reckoner, I have to give respect that. I wish I could still get that title, man.
As a Tenno with 2,5k hours on Warframe, I also can relate
another reckoner? impossible
Funke: "No one cared about the armor other then Invader"
Me also a Reckoner: *Sobs Staring at his Sentry armor to stomp the invader armors.*
PARAGON WAS A GARDEN OF EDEN OF THE MOBA GENRE, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL AND THE CHARACTERS WERE EACH SO FUN TO PLAY AND UNIQUE NOTHING COMES CLOSE
I AM CRUNCH, AND I LIKE TO PUNCH
GIMME MY BOY BACK
Man, hearing about Gigantic again is a heartbreak. I remember playing the shit out of that game. It seemed so active too! I would see different people every game and get a slightly new experience each time, as a good game should, but then it just crashed. It got taken down suddenly, and I couldn’t play it anymore. A real crying shame.
Paragon was absolutely amazing. It had some issues, some quite big issues to be fair, but it was great. There was something about the way combat was so fluent and fun and occasionally you would just glitch into the other side of the map or spawn in the wrong base. The game could have been one of the all time greats, but it wasn't given enough of a lifecycle to get there, big sad.
@@punpun3257 So people claim, my computer was several years old when Paragon came out and ran it just fine.
But you're definitely on to something as LOL runs on a toaster
Still sad to this day that Paragon died
@@mdrd1036 me too man, me too
Eh, it looked nice but it wasn't that fun imo. And the card system was a disaster.
The thing is that, competitive and complex games like mobas, imo need a clean HUD and simple graphics, for example csgo, Lol, overwatch? Valorant, because if apart of thinking about the macro game(here im talking about high elo), you have to focus and watch carefully watch you see because there are many different elements in the graphics that confuse you, you burn ur mind very quick, reaching a unfun point, and maybe casuals and normal players dont care, even could enjoy more the good and outstanding graphics, if there isnt a hardcore comunitty, that support the game, spread the knowledgr to newcomers player, and create a pro community, is very hard to sustain a competetive game.
Something thqt happened for example with HOTS, where there were many casual players, but because blizzard didnt supp competitive, there wasnt a hardcore community, and the game slowed died.
I'm supremely happy that you gave the Hi-Rez's VGS the credit it deserves.
No seriously, I hate smite. I play it every single day. I probably wouldn't play it every single day if the VGS system didn't exist
It was one of the most fun parts of Tribe to hear "shaz-shazb-sha-sha-sh-shazbot" at the end of each match.
It's complex, but it does the job surprisingly well, I know like 3/4 of it by heart - I was really saddened that they simplified it for Paladins
@@carsoncity591 "I hate Smite. I play it everyday." There it is, you've perfectly summed up the Smite playerbase.
Openned the video thinking you would talk only about LoL and Dota and I was honestly impressed by your knowlodge on the subject. Amazing video
I played paragon pretty regularly when it was alive and it was really fun. It was easy to understand and and characters were rad.
Anyone else remember Dead Island Epidemic?
Me neither.
I'll be the lone champion for Solstice Arena as well
I admit, I played that from launch to closure.
Does anyone remember when you last made a video? 😭
aaaah the characters had sick designs - but took so long to save up for one. I had just unlocked Roy Becker and got to play like 20 games as the fat tourist before the game died.
Mutated Bryce main here. What up?
I also mained Tank and Cheston in Super Monday Night Combat, not that anyone cares
"I like this game because I can actually tell what the hell is going on"
Thats it, thats all you had to say
Its exactly why I like Smite over other mobas
@@Bonezee yah I totally agree there as well
If u ever played smite and were Killed in a drive by from arachne, u Know this is so not true lmao
@@MaKa-dm7kh idk man I play Guardian, these things just don't happen to me
@Plain Water aegis is just plain pointless on full defence, beads if you're desperate
I usually roll Cursed Ankh if theres a lotta healing on the enemy team and Heavenly Wings so my team can push or escape
@Plain Water yeah
gigantic was the absolute shit, i love it, and i'm crying it's gone
I totally forgot about gigantic, that one really was a gem
No mention of Awesomenauts, I thought it was a pretty interesting spin on the moba genre
Yeah it was actually one of the mobas I had the most fun with.
Yep. Shame devs dropped it for a shitty game that doesn't even have a playerbase. Nauts still has more daily players than their new game at release LMAO.
Only moba I've played and enjoyed since dota in wc3. Too much clicking in anything else. Smite was ok but didn't resonate with me.
Fantastic Overview :). 05:03 that pilot-kill sound tho haha
@Mokeysniper I'm pretty sure it's actually the kill (or maybe the mid-air direct hit sound/ I don't remember) sound from Tribes Ascend, which Hi-Rez also developed back in the day, or maybe I'm just imagining things. I remember recognizing it instantly when I started playing TF2, and given the similarity of the games I'd have trouble believing it's not a deliberate homage by the devs. We miss you Tribes, come back to us.
@@nunyabiznes7446 Nah it's definitely Titanfall, after the sound if you listen closely it's an Ion saying "Welcome back Pilot". Plus the outline of the screen is simalar to a Titan's cockpit.
@@maelstrommonarch7350 its definelly titanfall because that god got into his Cthulhu Class Titan.
I played paragon it was ok but that was mainly because I played a couple of days after release and there wasn’t a bunch of players, one thing to know about the beta EVERY CRATE WAS 1 COIN, it was one or zero, I forget. But I remember SPAM BUYING the crates just to collect almost every skin for every character. Anyways back to the game, the tutorial started with the Omen looking dude from valorant. It was that or it lets you choose, either way it was pretty fun to have a full lobby of people and the card mechanic was pretty simple, you spawn and choose a card deck(just three cards) and if I remember correctly kills got you coins, and the coins either upgraded or got you more cards there is a max amount of cards you could hold If I remember
I loved you were unbiased and favorable and were honest from personal experience playing these games
"I wouldn't recommend Destiny 2, cause it's not a video game it's a job."
*Never before have I been so offended by something I one hundred percent agree with.*
if destiny 2 is a job, then i'm glad i resigned
Man, Gigantic was amazing I miss so many things, from slicing though people with Tyto the Swift to pulling off aerial bombardments with Beckett. and when Your team's guardian was ready to attack the enemy's it was something truly magical, running alongside the team and the guardian as they are flying/burrowing across the battlefield while beams of light/darkness erupt around them as they pin the enemy guardian down so you can attack their weak spot with the enemy team trying to hold us off.
Man I missed using Tytos shield spin upgrade to no you to all the projectile based enemys. Also soloing the beast in training grounds.
I still have a screencap saved on my computer of the one time I got a 15 killstreak on Tripp, earning the 'Gigantic' achievement, and saved it with the filename 'my greatest achievement'.
I also played a game with nothing but long-range casters (Beckett, Imani, Voden, Mozu, and Charnogg) into an actually well-balanced 5-man comp. Our Voden DC'd immediately, then Imani wen 0/12 in like 5 minutes and ragequit, leaving me (Beckett), with the Charnogg and Mozu, and we actually manged to win the match. I had my jaw on the floor the entire time, I felt like a god, it was one of the greatest experiences I've ever had in a video game.
And the fact that I was able to remember all of the hero names and the exact comp of that specific match without looking a single thing up after not playing Gigantic for over 5 years should speak to just how much of an impact it had on me. There has seriously never been another game like it.
@@bakuhakudraws5603 You could not be more correct, Gigantic is one of the best games i have ever played, even tho its not around anymore, i do not think i have ever enjoyed a MOBA style game this much, i have over 2,3k hours on LoL and i havent even come close to the level of fun i had while playing Gigantic, maan do i miss my boy Ramsay..
Project Stamina is gone now too. Saddest thing I've read in a while, it died last year after issues with the producer.
@@empicamper I have too many hours on LoL too, and I hate every single bloody second!
damn i need more of your shit. I could watch the videos and just watch the end patron credits jam to the music and I can have more fun than I do on any other youtube channel
I miss gigantic so damn much. Most fun game I've ever not been able to play. Wish I did play it looked so fun as a hero shooter
"I could shit on League's balance like Riot shit on Azir"
As someone who plays Azir, ow.
But seriously though, whens that next Ryze rework?
Finally, a league comment
Make Azir's R impenetrable again
Just wanted to say I physically jumped for joy after seeing a new funke vid
was literally amazed to see him being alive
I was so psyched for Gigantic, and then it died. Would love to see a version that isn't cellshaded with a zoomed out FOV.
Surprised to see no Heroes of the Storm rep in the video or comments! If you consider revisiting MOBAs in another video give it a look. I found it so fun I grinded all the characters out despite it being almost abandonware.
I've never been hit by nostalgia so hard as when I heard the "You Rock, Cancel That."
"Bye!""thats too bad"
I remember when I heard thesse voices in paladins using the default voice over I just kept laughing my ass off becuse of how out of touch the voice was
"Shazbot!"
Hits different XD
@@roman11777 "Not bad for a sorter!"
I don’t remember subbing to you or maybe it was an accident that I just made but I don’t regret it, this is amazing
ive been hoping to find a video going in depth on all mobas explaining the differences and what makes them unique HoN had some really cool heroes wish i got to play it.
I played quite a bit of paragon when it was around and definitely quite enjoyed the game quite a bit sad that we never really got to see what it could have become
Winter of 2017 when they announced its closure, it doesn't feel that long ago. It was soo sad and unique of a game. Probably my favorite. It was quite addicting. Fault is still a work in progress, has a way to go.
Quite
Played Dota1 and Dota2 for a total of 12 years now. Still a noob who forgets to click his magic stick during crucial moments.
Too true, can relate
You said click so I raise you with keybind. Please. use it.
Same that's why I don't build wands hahaha
Same but I quit abt a year ago when that stupid janky looking tp hero got released. its an addiction that ruins life but i might be back any day.
@@Silent_Tentacle you know what we all mean when we say 'click' lol
God damn the outros just keep getting better
I completely forgot of gigantic and you reminding me of it reminds me of how great it was.
Being a MOBA player is like being in an extremely toxic relationship where both parties still have hope that the relationship can work. Both of you are terrible to each other, but every time you two split up to date other people, you can't help but go back to that awful relationship. Also you drop like a grand on gifts and shit, you know you shouldn't but you do anyway.
I think using hard drugs would be more healthier than playing MOBA games.
I have never, and never will understand this point of view. Why do you play the game if you are not having fun? I have been playing Dota 2 for the last 10 years on and off, having 5 thousand hours in it, and I have always loved the game, if I did not have fun at any point I just took a small break. I legitimately think the game is absolutely fantastic, and is being made better each update. The only thing that can ruin it is other people, but that can just be ignored.
Damn dude thats the most on point description of ANYTHING ive ever seen, cheers
@@hatechm Yeah, that's kinda true. Honestly, the only thing that making LoL even compete with Dota is that Valve just ruined the atmosphere of the game by adding these glowy immortal items and not adding anything to the lore of the world and heroes (though i still think that Dota have the best skins in history of videogames and DK with Mirana are getting 2nd season of anime). Macro games are just better than micro games, but i can't really think of why League is a thing in a world, where Dota exists
Vainglory was criminally underrated dude, I cried when it died
really well done game, I spent most of my middle school experience on that game.
I swear riot litteraly stole the idea for Kayn from Idris in Vainglory , a dude that can go inside you and going blue or red depending on your choice late game and he was in game a year before Kayn
Rip Vainglory, best Mobile MOBA ever
Man I swear there’s been so many games I’ve played and loved that have all died. Evolve, Battleborn, Block n Load, Awesomenauts, Vain Glory, Bleeding edge, Paragon, Gigantic.
@@TuriGamer hahahaha dude vain was the least like league MOBA in mobile, it seems like you never played it, at the start the main mode was 3v3, nothing like league at all.
Back in 2013 there was Merc Elite which I was obsessed with it was a top down shooter MOBA surprised there haven't been any attempt to make a similar one yet.
you bringing up Gigantic literally made me tear up :(
Finally, Smite gets mentioned. Love that game, it's fun.
Indeed
Kind of in an awkward state at the moment, though. Balance and mechanics wise. Not bad by any means, just makes it more of a chore to play now than it was two years ago.
@@spectrumaevum7476 tell me
About it I once thought smite patches were stupid and unbalanced and biased
Then the overwatch shield nerf came
Then I came to love smite for how balanced it is
When you said "Hawken" so many memories flooded back into my head. That was so long ago.
Love it when yt randomly recommends actually good channels like urs
Thank you for mentioning Gigantic, that was one of the most fun online games I've ever played
As a Dota fan I'm happy it even got mention with more than just a yeah it exists.
yeah, people are too scared of dota. And some people still push the narrative that dota is too toxic when it's actually about as toxic as league is
I tried to play dota cause it looked interesting but my pc said n o and i had like 10 fps
@@ilikemonkeys5653 dota is more demanding than LoL is, for sure. What kind of computer do you have? And when did you try it, because the game received performance improvement just recently
What kind of a computer i have?
Toaster
Like its really really bad
Most games that i play are pixelated cause i cant play even remotely high resoultion games and even in the case of minecraft my pc sometimes just starts making airplane sounds
@@ilikemonkeys5653 welp in that case dota is prolly off limits for you. Like even if you optimized all settings you'd barely end up with 30 fps i guess
"It's hard to find two champions in League who are identical"
Seraphine mains: _Monkey puppet_
Honestly sera isnt even close to sona in gameplay design, her gameplay is closer to neeko.
@@nekorisakirisame1323 I agree but it's ha ha funny meme
@Korero Korero nah aatrox doesn't even function like riven
@@nekorisakirisame1323 My complaint (as a dude who mained Sona back when I was learning the game) is that Seraphine is what Sona WOULD be if you updated her to the modern standard of the game. Seraphine stole the rework that Sona rightfully deserves and for that reason alone I think she shouldn't exist - and that's before we even get into all the creepy and fake social media influencer bullshit Riot pulled to promote her K-Pop stuff.
@@Stolanis Wasn't the last Sona balance change years ago, and wasn't it also a nerf?
Apparently, Gigantic's coming back.
Specifically, as 'Gigantic: Rampage Edition', on steam.
April ninth, this year.
I'd imagine you're more likely to have heard this news than I, so you're probably already aware, but in case not, figured I'd mention it.
I've played every moba you talked about, Dota 2 is my favourite still, but that probably comes from it being the game I started with. Every other game just feels too easy for me to enjoy now.
Miss you everyday, Gigantic
"Destiny 2 isn't a game, it's a job" - the most true thing ever said, 2021
Battleborn was one of my favourite ever games. Intersting characters, interesting skills, good lore, moba stuff. It's such a shame it shutdown -_-
8:58 I can confirm after 2 and a half years of playing it’s more like a crack addiction. You get one hit and love it, so you get more, but your dealer is locked up. So you wait until you find another one, but it turns out he’s selling bargain bin dollar store crack, so you impolitely refuse. Then your previous dealer gets out so you get some and love it, then the cycle repeats. It goes from a 3/10 to a 9/10 so frequently that no one can recommend it for sure.
Awesomenauts was a super unique take on the MOBA genre I thought. The game being in 2D made it fresh enough to keep playing and all the characters were charming and fun in their own ways. I recommend people give it a go if its still playable aha
i still play it all the time, feels the most balanced and fun its ever been besides lower player counts
It isn't getting any support unfortunately but you are still able to play it
I love Dunkey's second channel.
Hahah I feel the same, he does sound like Dunkey. Btw I like your Kain profile pic
Okay hear me out
Titanfall Attrition but it’s a MOBA. Squads of Grunts/Jackals drop in at each end of the map and fight each other - replace cannons with Reapers, Super Minions with Titans. Players initially act as riflemen but steadily purchase the features of a full blow pilot - starting with basic wall running and working towards abilities like grapple. Games would have to be much shorter than normal MOBAs but I think it would be fun to give it a shot at least.
Bit late, but there's this great MOBA in development named Edenbrawl. It's like Rocket League met Normal League, but the best of both. WASD movement, unique ability upgrades, special abilities only unlocked while holding the ball, and much more. They are adding some Crypto Game elements to it but it's completely optional and even then, the best implementation in the genre. Worth keeping your eye on for the future.
Dota 2 is literally heroin probably singlehandedly ruined my life. 10/10
The brown female legionary ruined it for me
@@seronymus What's wrong with it brother
@@palestasza Cause he wanted racist calvier Garithos as Legion commander instead.
@@palestasza i don't like staring at ugly things with my precious time on a PC all day
@@seronymus You can either get an actual Legion Commander that lead the fight or Leisure Camper where he/she just have farms till the ends of time.
since were talking about moba’s, y’all remember adventure time battle party? that one adventure time themed moba that was only playable on cartoon networks website for like years, and was getting updated until like 4 months after the shows end?
Wtf how have I never heard of this, this sounds amazing
Oh boy the memories, it was actually pretty cool yeah, I loved that shit
It actually got my younger cousins into the whole moba genre. It's really impressive they took such a complex genre and made it easy for kids to understand. Game was hype.
banger moba, was hoping someone would mention it
I think videogamedunkey make one video reviewing it, if you guys were interested to know what’s that game looks like
OMGGGG you've named the past few years of my life I've searching for a MOBA for so long
GIANTIC I played like 5 matches of that game and came back a week later and it was dead
Paragon, Gigantic are my childhood games EVEN THOUGH THEY DIED INSTANTLY
I swear I've had more fun with those 2 than any other moba and I've played all of them, I wish they had never died but the revival will be awesome
ngl battleborn dying at the hands of OW and randy "greasy lord" pitchford was a goddamn travesty, the characters while design while hit or miss were fun and incursion was basically the only mode to play
Finally someone who enjoyed battleborn. It's a tragedy that it failed, especially with Randy saying that "It's not a moba." When it clearly is
🥲
@@dreamman553 Thank you Dream Man, very cool
@@jefff7916 muh name is Jeff
Battleborn sadly was competing in two different genres against Massively popular games