How to renew the flush syphon on a close couple pan,(showing removal of cistern)
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- Your WC (toilet) not flushing? How to renew the flush syphon from a close coupled pan, showing removal of cistern and complete renewal of a new syphon into the cistern and replacing the cistern back onto the WC pan.
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Hi Al. Had the syphon problem. Watched this vid a few times. Admittedly, a bit intimidated at first, but bit the bullet, bought the bits, rolled up my sleeves ........ Job done. Thanks so much for making and uploading this clear & concise video.
No problem, pleased you sorted it ok.
Hi Al. Thanks for the tutorial. I didn't have any confidence to replace the Syphon, but after watching your video, am confident that I can do it. Your teaching method is just Brilliant! Keep up the good work.
You are welcome! Thanks for the kind comments.
Life's always better with a new donut Al.
PLEASE tell me you were doing this out of necessity rather than as a demo!
Thanks Al,explained the process beautifully.I am just going to install a new cistern as old ceramic cistern developmented a crack .Luckily I was around and spotted the leak before it soaked the ceiling upstairs .Your videos have given me the confidence to tackle these repairs and I am very grateful to you .
No problem pleased to have helped out.
My top tip just having done one of these: the donut washer that comes in the close coupling kit was too thick for my setup; and its curved bottom meant the cistern rocked around. The cistern then sat 3mm above where it had been before meaning the holes on the rear for the wall mounting were now above the existing holes in the wall. I needed a flatter foam donut washer which I got from a plumbers merchant - but it did mean I had to stop and go out and get one. Have a look at the washer you are replacing for guidance - of course you won't see this until you have your cistern dismantled. Get one in advance if you want to save time. They don't seem to be held by Screwfix or Toolstation (apart from a Euroflo 2" one at Screwfix which was too wide).
Thanks for the extra info Frank.
At 12.33 water leaking from wingnut
Very useful. I just replaced mine. Just one rusty screw on the back and my in-line valve had seized so I had to get a new one. I had to saw through the plastic lever arm to remove it. I got a new one and had to move the handle shaft to a different lever hole to make it work with the new siphon. The new siphon is serviceable without removing the cistern so this job will be easier next time.
Great job Dave.
Thanks. But now I’m doing the same job at my Sister’s house and it’s not going well. The builder glued the overflow pipe into the overflow stand pipe so I have had to hacksaw the overflow pipe (need to extend that). And the inlet valve needs replacing but the plastic nut on the bottom has seized/stuck with sealant (don’t need sealant there surely as the seal should be the rubber washer inside). Just applied some “silicon remover” gel to try to soften it and waiting. I have a tap back nut box spanner somewhere so will try that.
First class instruction video, clearly shows every step ,brilliantly done, only thing the toilet needed a good clean before reassembling.!!!!!
Thanks Brian.
@@dereton33 no offence meant 😁
An informative step by step guide to replacing the syphon unit in wc. Alan demonstrates it so well that I have decided to tackle my own faulty system. Thanks for the tutorial!
711honved No problem. Good luck with it. If you have Any problems get back to me. Al.
I can’t thank you enough for your videos. Watching this allowed me to change a non-flushing handle toilet to a perfectly flushing button toilet for a relative. Just donated, mate.
Thanks a lot Aerodeon.
Really useful video and clear explanation. I followed it and it worked perfectly. Just got to work out how to control the overflow which seems to be constantly dripping down into my toilet now!
Good luck with it.
Thanks Al for your video - replaced the syphon yesterday - as you've suggested in previous video's it can be a swine of a job. The fitting was OK thanks to this video - it was the leaking on reassembly that was causing problems. A late night trip to B&Q to get high grade sealant eventually worked.....Thanks for giving me the courage to do the job!
+1954BJohn. Yes a bit of a job that one.
This is a great video and very helpful. I have to do this job this weekend and I am not looking forward to it but this has given me confidence. Thank you.
No problem, good luck with it.
I did it all in about 30 mins thanks to you :-)
Many thanks for this dereton, , have just successfully changed the siphon. Frustratingly I couldn't find a similar diaphragm so I had to replace the whole thing. followed your instructions successful!
That`s great pleased you fitted it OK.
The best instructional vids ever these, thanks a lot
You're very welcome!
Great video and step by step guide - thank you, job completed successfully
You're welcome!
Excellent video, everything explained well and easy to follow. One of the best for sure! Thank you very much.
No problem
Excellent channel. Any chance you can make a tutorial on removing and replacing the bolts / screws and different types used for solid / hollow walls when doing this type of job or for when fitting a new toilet? Great stuff and so helpful, Al.
See what I can do Michael.
Thank you, very useful.
No problem DB.
Much appreciated, thank-you. Excellent video.
No problem George.
Great idiot proof step by step guide, gave me confidence to have a go myself.
That`s great and what my videos are all about.
great vid, i actually fixed one of these a while back, i used some thick plastic bag cut to size to replace the syphon washer, its still working im pleased to say :D
very useful..many thanks
:-) Just thought id give an update, Might help others. I had a comedy of errors when trying to install. Just thought id highlight some gotchas for people. 1, I did have to hacksaw off the old screws at the back. 2. The new plate I ordered, was actually a slightly different size than the old one, so did not sit right on the pan. The Dudley Turbo is rather Large! And it was a super tight fit for me and the inlet flow. I did not screw the nut on tight enough so had to redo as I had a slight leak. I then had problems with the inflow as it was leaking, I had a washer in the inlet pipe. I then went and got a new inlet flow with a brass screw, however it was too big to fit with the Dudley installed. Went and got a plastic one from B and Q but again got leaks. So, in the end, I gave up this time and called out the plumber which I had cover for and they came and installed a new system. As it was still leaking. They then mentioned the plate issue, lucky I had kept the old plate. So moral of the story make sure the cistern you have is big enough to accommodate everything. Plus one more question. The plumber mentioned I might not have needed a wash for the inlet when using a plastic pipe. Anyways, I learned loads and loads, but was glad I could get the plumbers in and get it fixed ;-) As I spent hours on it. lol.. Until the next time....then again maybe not.. haha.
Sorry you had a tough time, but thanks for letting us know your hassles.
iwould have cleaned it a bit more and put coper slip on the bolts
Very good vid. I am at the dismantle/cleaned up stage i.e. ready to refit. My siphon is rather tall about 12" and nowhere can i get a like for like replacement. So i have made my own flap to fit in the old siphon. However, i love the idea of not doing this job again by fitting the likes of the Turbo 88. Does it matter that i will be refitting with a less tall siphon? I hope you can see this message before i refit as i am at the stage of waiting for delivery of the coupling kit.
You can get an adjustable height turbo siphon.
@@dereton33 cheers for answering but none, as far as I can tell, extend to 12". Nearest I can get is 10". I am not sure if being slightly shorter (by 2") will cause a problem. The system is circa 30 years old. I will make do with what I have got and trust my flap cutting skills. Once again, very informative video. Cheers.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Thought that doughnut was a ideal standard round section with flat plate do you convert them over to the standard type?
very useful thanks
No problem.
very good tip
just finished doing this same job in a toilet cubicle so even less room either side of the pan, what a nightmare trying to hacksaw the pan bolts. hope i dont get another one of them this week.
Good video as usual
Thanks Peter.
Help Al I have replaced the syphon with the Turbo 88 as advised but when I flush i need to pump a couple of times and then water comes out between cistern and pan
I have also replaced bracket and doughnut….. what is the problem?
The seal is not holding between the cistern and pan, try a new doughnut.
dereton33 thanks you help me another time! cool for the 1080 P HD :)
me i buy a Fluid Master valve
I did the same thing earlier this year. My close couple kit came with the metal plate + 2 doughnuts, one was very solid rubber and I thought about using it but there was no way I could tighten the wing nuts to bring the systern down so I used the other doughnut which sort of fitting into the bottom rubber thing. Any idea what the solid doughnut is for? Anyway no leaks and all works. I set the double flush water volumes as per the instructions that came with the syphon.
Mark Davies Some pans have a deep insert so the solid rubber seal is then ideal. It`s good you had a couple of options with your kit. The pan in the video had a deep insert and thats why the old doughnut washer was a hard rubber one.
Top class video 👍
Thanks DIY man.
Does this work with the push button cistern?
thanks for the video
+icespeckledhens . Yes it is the same.
Is there an equivalent item for a push button flush toilet rather than a handle flush?
An electronic hand sensor flush.
Leak from the wingnut at 12.33
I know, it just needed a further turn.
I tried but couldn't get through wall screws too rusted same with wing nuts
Use a junior hacksaw to cut them off.
Clean the tank damnit
If you have a minute perhaps you can come round and do it for me.
Irritates me when people can’t be bothered to clean the cistern properly
Yes life is too short.
Really appreciate this video.Thanks.
No problem.