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As usual, our government that can't be trusted are once again messing about with our classic cars. They've released a "survey" that needs to be completed by business's and individuals by July 4th, but they're not openly advertising the fact, don't ignore it, go read through it, it's really worrying........
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We need a revolution. I have owned 3 classic vehicles, but I sold the last one back in 2007. It was a Mk1 Ford Granada. My mate sold his TR6 last year. I knew that at some point the government would start interfering.
It's abused, because all of a sudden, unroadworthy crud has started emerging from garages after 20 years or so doing nothing
@@Humanity101-zp4sq this is the truth. The vast majority of classic cars are owned and maintained by genuine, and fastidious fanatics. But the 5 percent are going to ruin it for the majority as usually is the case
How long are we going to take this shit 🤬🤬
I know, we need all the sheeple to wake up to what’s happening before it’s too late. Thanks for watching
None of this will be important when our government announces we are officially at war with Russia a couple of months from now.
@@DoubleZeroGarageIt's already too late bud.
The time to act was a long time ago.
They will do anything they want now and no one will be able to reverse any of this sadly.
Enjoy what you can right now because the future is going to be very dark, in more ways than one.
@DLC-sy7pp yep, unfortunately you’re absolutely correct, thanks for watching and commenting
They’re trying to clear out all vehicles that will be able to get around the EV mandate. Why are we still obeying EU laws?
Because once Keir is voted in he will take us back 😞 Wishy washy Sunak want out 😞
@@mikythesaint6507 Keir Starmer can’t even work out the HokeyCokey! Diane Abbot, is she in, is she out? She’s in She’s out! Shake him all about, someone! You or I would have nipped this in the bud in hour 1. Ban her from running, if she’s so popular in her constituency she can run as Independant ‘Labour’, and win. When he can’t say yes or no he looks a wanker ……. same with Angela Raynor. He was obvious with his lack of support but all over her at Gillingham this week.
Putting an EV 'motor' in a classic,is an idea only a moron would think is good.The motor is what makes it classic.
Yep, totally agree
I can't even watch vintage voltage on TV.
To me they take a classic car and make it scrap.
Not sure if it could be seen as radically modified so needs inspection like a new kit car.
The UK heritage vehicle movement is worth 18 BILLION to the Treasury. If they do away with our hobby, where is this money going to come from to fill the void to provide Hotels for economic migrant chancers? For one thing.
The state bureaucrats and politicians DO NOT CARE about the economy. ULEZ, LEZ’s across the country are decimating small businesses, and the reduction in internal combustion engine cars, trucks, buses whatever else I missed, is going to DECIMATE garages, body shops, and whatever is left of British engineering. These maniacs are happy to destroy us and our ability to travel. They obviously get off on their power, and it confirms their egocentric narcissism that they DESERVE the power to destroy industries, businesses and people’s standard of living. In nature, parasites feed from other creatures, but don’t kill their host providing them with sustenance and life. These are maggots, sadistically destroying people’s lives. And because THEY don’t rely on their ingenuity and effort to provide for their families and raise their living standards, but follow the instructions given, (like Nazis in Germany 1932-45) and tax non-state businesses and people, they are well aware that they will survive.
They don't need your money. The excuse that they need your money is purely a reason to take it from you.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq 😂 huh?
@@mcirelandosharma7411totally correct and they don’t want anyone to own a car anyway so they can introduce autonomous ev’s whwre you have to book your journey and share with others..
The whole wef plan of you owning nothing is aided by the fact your members of parliment are members of the world economic forum and as such are merely puppets to the globalist elite and follow the agenda set out by them and anyone who thinks the government work for the people is seriously delusional😂..
The drive to get rid of cars runs alongside the 15 minute cities agenda and takes away your ability to travel where and when you want to..
This is part of their sustainable goals future to be net zero by 2050 and is fully explained on their website although some of the aggregious parts have been deleted because the information they presented revealed too much about the agenda and too many people are aware of its implications so they decided to remove some of the site content so as to not alarm anyone whilst quietly pushing forwards with the origonal agenda..
The money is just a way to tax you for your carbon output whilst they quietly remove your rights to own anything including your home which is the next stage your cars motorbikes and anything that gives you independence to move freely..
They are making vast fortunes taxing carbon which is needed in the atmosphere to produce oxygen think along the lines of photosynthesis and you’ll understand that zero carbon equals zero oxygen because carbon is your freind not the demon they portray it to be..
Clever people who can fool entire populations into submitting to their agenda and giving up everything for it..
You will own nothing and be happy so they tell us
Simple ,raise taxes.
England committing suicid week by week😢😢
Certainly seems that way, unless we put a stop to it by standing up to all this crap
Been going on for years it’s just that now it’s become more aparant..
Your rights have been and are still being removed one legislation paper at a time they’ve done this over a long period of time but everyone has been too distracted to notice anything..
It’s called “Marxist creep”.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq thank God I’m neither ignorant or paranoid!
A vehicle that has been looked after and cared for well enough to still be a useable vehicle after 40+ years desrves the VED exempt status as reward for not having the vehicle scrapped and a new one built to replace it along with it's manufacturing carbon footprint. It is very enviromentally friendly to keep an old vehicle on the road compared to making a new one! Also making changes to improve it's safety and efficiency which are presently alowed should remain so!! This seems like a ploy to reduce the number of vehicles that qualify for £0 VED, it's a cash grab as usual and nothing to do with a vehicles historic integrity.
It’s got nothing to do with saving the environment. It’s got everything to do with returning to a feudal system where people rely on local work with wages decided by committee. Reduction in living standards and freedom, restriction of movement.
Slavery to the state, basically.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq Classic cars pay no road tax, but have to buy premium fuels. Don’t need to match modern engineering standards, and therefore don’t have the tests or maintenance costs. So I imagine the cash grab mentioned is to come from tax gathered from road fund duty, or from the expense of mechanics and garage bills to try to match modern cars, all raising taxes. Probably not a lot to you, but to a more mature driver keeping his memory of personal transport alive on a modest, fixed pension, thereby attacking their sense of independence before the enforced stay at the “care” home.
My '58 Austin A35 is a recycled car.
Very few parts are newly-manufactured.
These government cnuts are fixing a problem which isn't a problem.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq Ronald Reagan: The nine most frightening words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
Classic cars cover a TINY mileage, they tend to be driven very gently and the number of collisions they're involved in is miniscule. Further regulation is wholly unnecessary.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq Just because somebody's paranoid, it doesn't mean they're NOT being victimised.
Q plate aside, this legislation comes from the EU. I thought we left. The EU want any car that does not have autonomous driving capabilities and tracking off of their roads. There is no need to be part of this….
EU wants newer cars removed from the road at end of life (rust/mechanical failure) and not repaired but scrapped. This is no doubt to protect new car manufacturers (particularly German manufacturers) because people are choosing not to replace older cars for new because the latter are too expensive. Unfortunately like most legislation it'll have unintended consequences which potentially could hit future and current classic cars.
It's all to do with tracking and control.
All governments ever want is more control, tell me the last time you rememeber any incoming government repealing any law ever.
It's never anything more than a power grab. If one country accepts it it's very likely others will and so you'll see them all gather more and more control in this manner
This was one of many reasons I voted Leave. It was in the classic car papers before the referendum as an issue and that the EU was trying to legislate for it. After we voted to leave, I was hoping we were going to do it quickly and smoothly to avoid having this added to UK law as part of EU membership, but as our disgraceful parliament was kicking it's heels trying to keep us in against the popular vote, this law passed in 2018.
Not sure where you’re getting that idea from. I suspect the authorities would rather the population move further towards using public transport than cars, the current fuel situation is a great opportunity to push this. Think about it, nobody’s buying electric cars because they’re too expensive, and the sale of new petrol/diesel cars will be stopped. So people are financially coerced into rethinking their travel arrangements.
In urban areas of the country this is fine, but in rural areas the need for personal transport is greater.
@@Xylaquin As you say, coersion. There's the problem in itself. I'm not buying an electric car because I can't afford it. I wouldn't drive one if you gave it to me. Not least because of practical reasons (I have nowhere to charge it, or install charging infrastructure), but because of the boring driving experience compared to classic cars. That and the privacy issues they raise. I don't even own a mobile phone because of it's tracking capabilities!
Just another money grab. Luckily my 1970 land rover has never had any welding or replacement parts 😉......should anyone ask 😂
It’s definitely just money grabbing, they’ve realised that there’s enough of us to make a difference and are looking to try and control us in the same way as they try to control and destroy everything. Always good to know your land rover has survived so long with no major work lol
@@DoubleZeroGarage They are broke ang are grabbing at any possible ways to extract revenue from anyone who they potentially can.
They are, ULEZ has nothing to do with clean air either, another money grabbing scam. If was about clean air, they just wouldn’t allow cars in to that area
Is that an I'm alright jack attitude 🤔
A land rover that has not had any welding or new parts ? That really is a historic vehicle
So if I repair the chassis on my 1938 Austin Seven it will become "of indeterminate age"!?... Yeah, makes sense to me... It's VERY difficult to tell the difference between an 86 year old car and a 10 year old car! I regularly make the accidental mistake of driving my Nissan Micra to car shows instead of the Austin! These people are INSANE!
No, body repairs aren’t modifications.
Your right bloody Lunatics,
Just the thin end of the wedge to bring in more legislation at a latter date so they can get you off the road , same as the B S that's going through Parliament with younger drivers bringing in curlews and them not being able to carry passengers etc , all done in the name of road safety, we drivers ate all being put into categories now , young , middle aged , older , Male , Female, etc , divide and conquer, then insurance companies can charge more and D V L A can get more people off the road for whatever reason they choose, our freedoms being eliminated day by day , sick of this B S country and the R Soles running it 😉
I have a 1939 austin 10 I will continue to fix it and drive it along with my 69 mustang I'm not complying. We need a good old fashioned revolution
@nothingtoseehere999 Oh I whole heartedly agree with you, none of us should comply and continue doing what we do. Our lives, our choices
@@DoubleZeroGarage yes we need to stand together........
A continuation of the WAR on motorists.
They don't want you owning ANYTHING. The car is just the first thing to confiscate. Either through inconvenience, financially unsustainable, legal crackdown etc. After that it will be houses.
War on freedom, and cars that can't be remotely controlled.
We emigrated from the UK 20 years ago and retired in Cyprus (EU). I have been restoring and running Vintage/Classic cars since 1970. And own a 1949 MG TC and a 1983 Renault 4GTL. The Classic car movement is quite strong here, and we have some good static and driving rallies around the island. If your Classic is FIVA registered you get 60% discount on your road tax on engine size, and can use it all year round. Or you can pay €25 a Year, just for weekend driving. All cars have an MOT every 2 years, and it's only €35.
All the events we attend you have to pay around €80, although this includes a nice Cypriot lunch. And the rest goes to various charities in Cyprus, which keeps the Cypriot government happy. Although the stupid controlling EU are looking a changing things with vehicles over 15 years old. But the good old Cyprus government will probably just ignore it as usual, like other directives.
Sounds like you’ve got a pretty good deal over there, definitely made the right choice in emigrating. Good to have a strong classic car movement as well. Thanks for watching
Except the 'stupid' EU are not changing anything for vehicles over 15 years old. This is yet another lie put out by the brexidiots. The EU scrappage scheme for vehicles over 15 years AND BEYOND ECONOMIC REPAIR DOES NOT APPLY to historic vehicles.
@@DoubleZeroGarage Thanks, yes we do have a good life here, especially with the Income tax concessions on our pensions. And our village Council tax is only €170 a YEAR !
Yeah but. Cyprus has exemptions under the socialist regime of the EU. They aren't economic power houses. So the country can raise less tax, while receiving the re distribution of wealth.
The uk is following the European laws on classics to keep us as closely aligned as possible so we can re join.
Oooooh you're lucky - my ideal car is a Renault 4GTL. With a Webasto sunroof.
Theyve always told us major changes to historic vehicles (engine swap for example) makes them lose historic title so no longer be exempt from mots tax ect, why is it ok for them to be ev converted surely the extra weight and and fire risk is more dangerous than a regular engine swap
MOST EV conversions should maintain the overal design weight for the vehicle and generally the axle weights too. Electric motors weigh no more than a IC Lump and batteries about the same as full fuel tanks (of course you are carrying that weight all the time) , and regen braking systems are more efficient turning kinetic energy into stored electric rather than disapate heat
More disinformation. Petrol or diesel cars are FAR more likely to catch fire than EVs, check the numbers.
@@highpath4776 The only time it should be a problem is if you fit a Tesla motor with an equivalent power of 1000HP to a vehicle built for a 40 hp engine.
@@highpath4776 You are quite correct. Here in Australia, we have to follow the same basic rules when converting a Classic Car to 100% EV. I went through this process 5 years ago. It's not cheap, but the benefits have been incredible.
Fixing a chassis is "NOT" modifying the chassis. Swapping for a new chassis or changing the design of the chassis would cause the "Q" plate requirement.
Several owners of cars who fitted a replacement chassis supplied by the manufacturer to the original or improved design were caught out by this maybe 30-40 years ago. It’s no longer a problem unless you are, like the owners back then were stupid / stupidly honest enough to tell the DVLA.
It’s a subframe, albeit one that locates both the front and rear suspension, the engine, the gearbox & final drive.
Just plain and simple greed they will find a way to tax the air that we breathe next. Our way of life ids being eroded everyday.
You might say that as a joke, but once a carbon footprint tracker is part of the digital ID, it will essentially become reality.
This is sadly, so true
@@Humanity101-zp4sq you must be one of those automatons who needs to be told what to think 😂 so clueless with so many questions. It's like you've just woken up from a long slumber, or just emerged from under a rock where you've been hiding from the scary 'demic.
Remember when it was governed by consent?
Consent of the Governed. If that ever was the case it definitely was before I was born. I think Swizerland comes close though.
All these BS rules are intended to do one thing - keep the politicians & civil servants in work.
There is no actual benefit to anybody but them.
Good to see that others can see through this bs from the State.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq As above. Rules that keep politicians and civil.servants in work.
I'd add lawyers too.
This is the thin end of the wedge , the E U have stated they want all classic vehicles off the road because of their emissions and to fit in with net zero agendas.
I do ride a classic Motorbike its a 1987 B M W K75c .
When they start changing the legislation then you know its not in your interests , just another way for governments to keep piling on more legislation until you run out of rope and the next thing is your vehicle doesn't comply so off you pop ( another vehicle off the road , ) plays right into their trap .
Stop pinning the blame on the EU. Every govt signed up to UNs SDGs is doing the same thing. They are all complicit in this mass take back of all resources.
It’s not just the EU, it’s happening in the USA as well. They want all cars that can’t be controlled off the roads. Kill switches and face reading cameras in every car from 2025, they say it’s to stop drunk driving. But, if they can control the car, how long before they just say no you’re not driving again. If they can’t control it, we can’t have it
Except the EU are not changing anything for HISTORIC vehicles over 15 years old. This is yet another lie put out by the brexidiots. The EU scrappage scheme for vehicles over 15 years AND BEYOND ECONOMIC REPAIR DOES NOT APPLY to historic vehicles.
that's bollocks
I would say, be very careful filling in the survey, because it could well jeopardise your own vehicle! Nightmare!! Yes, I thought we had left the EU as well!!!
Except the EU are not changing anything for HISTORIC vehicles over 15 years old. This is yet another lie put out by the brexidiots. The EU scrappage scheme for vehicles over 15 years AND BEYOND ECONOMIC REPAIR DOES NOT APPLY to historic vehicles.
Why would you inform the government if you weld the chassis
@@Humanity101-zp4sq and if the vehicle is historic it probably won't have an MOT, but even if it did, the repairs would have to be to the MOT tester's standards so nothing would be reported either.
Bound to happen with the ice engine haters in the government, they won't be happy until everyone is on a bicycle
Its long been the case that chassis modifications put a vehicle into BIVA territory. But cutting out rusted metal and welding in new is not considered to be a modification.
Reading through the details in the survey seems to suggest that that’s where things are heading, I might have read it wrong and hope that I have, but it sounds like that’s what they’re getting at. Thanks for watching
@@DoubleZeroGarage That definitely seems to be what it implies - need a repair panel in your boot floor, or a replacement wheel arch? That's a new VIN.....
Yep, it’s all wrong. It’s time to put our foot down and just say no. The same for everything else they’re doing to us all. They can only push so far…….
When the legislation is amended, will it consider vintage aircraft, busses, ambulances, fire engines, heritage railway locomotives, military vehicles, national motorcycle collections and warships, submarines and historic transport museum exhibits as valid targets too? But leave petrol outboard engines alone, as they are particularly relevant methods of propulsion for the Lawyers, Doctors Surgeons and Scholars that Britain will need to replace the present obsolete indigenous poulation.
Your guess is as good as mine. Seems strange though doesn’t it, how it’s always the motorist that’s at fault, no matter what age of vehicle we drive it’s our fault. They never mention planes and trains etc, always just cars
@@DoubleZeroGaragethe unwanted folk who are now just "in the way".
Yes, sadly.
They are, but you never hear the government attacking them the way they do the motorist
they ruin everything!
For us they do .
@topfuelteddy Love the name, hopefully it relates to drag racing
@@DoubleZeroGarage It absolutely does , spend the last 2 days at the Pod . 👍
Aha, home from home lol. I’m usually there for the Mopar Nats and flames n thunder
@@DoubleZeroGarage Back next week for the main event 🥳
No, if you replace existing design parts with new ie if rusty that doesn’t qualify. It’s only if you alter the specification that it needs a vehicle inspection for a QPlate..
There was a case recently where a guy converting a Mini to electric power was told the car needed an IVA test (Q plate) because he had cut into the bulkhead to route cables for the motors and batteries. Being a monocoque, this is part of the structure and as such, in the eyes of the DVLA, he had modified the chassis, resulting in more points that necessitated an IVA. When he said it would be welded back up, they still wouldn't accept it and insisted on the IVA. For the most part, classic cars won't pass the IVA unless they have E-marked glass, lenses, etc., not to mention minimal radius' on external trim.
The document does not specifically mention chassis repairs. It primarily focuses on the policies and processes related to the registration of rebuilt, restored, or converted vehicles, particularly in light of evolving technologies and the increasing trend towards electric conversions. It looks like the DVLA seeks input on potential changes to these policies to ensure they remain relevant and effective. However, it does discuss the general assessment of vehicles that have undergone extensive changes, which could indirectly relate to chassis repairs if such repairs affect the vehicle's identity or road safety.
I'm very interested to see what the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs (FBHVC) will say in response to this. I think the current legislation is 40 years old and clearly needs updating. Back then, fitting electric motors and batteries wasn't common practice, so this area clearly needs reconsideration.
I believe it is crucial for us, as classic car owners, to have our say. Whether we're performing these types of conversions, fitting a different engine or gearbox, or even just upgrading our brakes to enhance safety, our input is valuable. Modernising the legislation to reflect current practices and technologies is essential to preserve our hobby and ensure our vehicles remain roadworthy and compliant with safety standards. Engaging in this consultation process can help shape policies that balance innovation with preservation, ensuring that classic cars continue to be a part of our motoring heritage.
The FBHVC have responded, saying that any vehicle registered as historic must be 100% historically accurate and correct, also stating that a vehicle registered as historic cannot be a daily driver! I just can’t agree with that, I have three historic cars all used daily and two cars over thirty used daily. They all keep up with current traffic movements, perform like any other car and are completely practical. Sounds like even the FBHVC are against us all as well
I know of two pre-War Austin Sevens that have been converted to electric power. Neither conversion involved cutting or modifying the chassis in any way, yet both have had their original registration numbers cancelled and been issued with Q-plates.
@saxon-mt5by maybe because they’ve both been radically modified, presumably the brakes and suspension has been upgraded to account for the extra weight and increase in power. If so, then this would count as modifications
@@saxon-mt5by I'd say that was down to the points based system... How on earth did they get through the IVA?
To retain the original registration number, the vehicle must score a total of 8 or more points from the below categories. Additionally, the original or new, unmodified chassis/body shell must be present.
Chassis or Body Shell (Monocoque Body)
5 Points: The original or new, unmodified chassis or body shell (monocoque) must be used.
Engine
2 Points: The original engine or an engine of the same specification.
Suspension (Front and Back)
2 Points: The original suspension system.
Axles (Front and Back)
2 Points: The original axles.
Transmission
2 Points: The original transmission.
Steering Assembly
2 Points: The original steering assembly.
@@DoubleZeroGarage Neither have been radically altered and retain the original chassis frame, brakes, steering and suspension. The only alteration was the substitution of an electric motor for the original petrol engine. the motor continued to be driven through the original gearbox and back axle. In both cases the conversion proved less than ideal and both cars have been converted back to original spec, but have lost their original registration numbers in the process. In both cases the Q-plate was issued with no IVA inspection - one car was not inspected at all, just a re-issued registration document sent through the post with no explanation.
Heard recently of a fellow Austin 7 owner who converted his car to electric and registered it as such with the DVLA. Then he found he couldn't insure it for less than £several grand a year (as opposed to the £70 that I pay). So he put the petrol engine back in but the DVLA refused to re-register it as a petrol car! His lovely Austin 7 is therefore now unuseable on the roads. Be warned!
Stupidity has consequence, who would have guessed!
@Polecat54941 I see nothing wrong with dropping a V8 into anything, hot rods deserve a place in history as well, especially with the history associated with them, much better than the EV crap out there
@@DoubleZeroGarage nothing wrong at all but unless it came with a V 8 then it's not an accurate historical record of a vehicle so not historic. I agree EV is plain stupid unless it's a milk float from the 60,s!
They can’t bloody leave anything alone ! One of my hobbies is classic cars, the other is shooting which they are also interfering with by looking to ban lead ammunition. This will destroy the sport for thousands of people and close a large amount of shooting related businesses. Same will go for the classic car industry which must also employ thousands of people in the various businesses that support it. From what I’ve been hearing from biker friends they are also trying to kill their fun off too.
Q plates used to be for kit cars or cannibalised cars and were nearly impossible to insure then in 1983 that changed with A.B.C. prefix plates, well I'm off to play in my 40-year-old Honda today, cheers
Done. The survey was pretty shifty and should have mentioned specific proposals rather than give the series of repetitive, leading questions that it did, suggesting that "change" (unspecified) is necessary, and then asking for evidence why it's not.
Yep, you need a degree in reading between the lines to understand what they’re doing and why their doing it. Crafty gits as usual. Thanks for watching
You need to be a lawyer to understand the hidden meaning in that. As if we don’t pay enough tax it looks like control of second hand parts is on the books. Effectively stopping Britains army of shed born engineers to maintain classics at a reasonable cost.
@@user-jh9hu8cp6k It's just a backdoor way to impose the EU 'type approval' regs.
Yep. It's the Delphi technique. They ask questions in a way that they can always extrapolate the answer they want, and make it look like it was your decision.
That’s what the consultation is for, they haven’t got anything to propose. Hence the call for evidence. It’s quite clearly laid out, I’m sorry if you misred.
Survey sounds like a trap
Doesn’t it though
Does this mean that the Houses of Parliament is no longer a grade 1 listed building as extensive repairs were carried out to the Hall's roof by Frank Baines in 1914-23. The entire roof was reinforced by concealed steelwork, and the decayed portions replaced with 'new' oak from Wadhurst in Kent, plus a cost of £5.7 billion and take 32 years to repair & that was publicised in 2015....................just saying....
Thanks for this. I completed the survey, it was long!
I have a spaceframe chassis with Ford Ecoboost engine, the chassis has been professionally built etc , and the bodyshell is from my 70s Fiat . The loophole they are trying to close, are the guys who build EG a Mini with a Honda Vtec engine and then NOT present it to dvla for inspection. I could of done this with my car, IE just built it and modfied it with the new engine etc, and just insured it as a modified 1974 Fiat. There are guys cutting the topsides off cars - MX5 and then badly welding a EG Morris Minor shell onto the floorpan. The dvla have to close off this aspect of home car builders just doing what they want. My car will be presented for IVA test and be re-registered as a new car. My own view is they will have no interest in minor weld repairs, and are more interested in deep structural and alterations to performance. Ask yourself how would anyone know if you had welded the chassis on your car, we all have our own gear etc. There are no Cops on the road because of the same incompetent Government, so they arent a consideration. Who will notice what we do anyway ?
It's just an excuse to extract more money from the people.
I wish it was as simple as that.
I believe it’s a component of a long run strategy to force people out of (or off, since this presumably covers motorcycles, too) privately owned, powered transport.
The push to force people to buy EVs.
Insufficient electrical power generation.
The eyewateringly high penalties for car makers failing to sell the requisite proportion of new car sales which are EV, a proportion which cannot even be met today without under the table deals. I predict some manufacturers will depart U.K. for this reason.
The mandatory installation & operation, some of which cannot be switched off by the driver, of “ADAS”, software and linked hardware in all new cars from July 2024, iirc. This will gift remote control of our vehicles to the extent they can be turned off remotely for periods of time that remote, faceless people can arbitrarily select (called “Geotiming”). It also allows faceless people turning your car off completely if you attempt to leave your Digital Gulag (called “Geofencing”….. and I’m absolutely serious, I’ve seen short videos of people getting into their late letter vehicles, only to find their cars software has been updated. The car won’t start unless you tap “I agree” to a lot of infringing, surveilling and remote controlling of your vehicle as and when they decide to enforce travel bans.
The huge ramp up of “road tax” for older but entirely viable older & classic cars, pitched perfectly in order to massacre most cars between 10 & 20 years old (forgive the imprecision on dates, but the impact is obvious on this car build dates. They’ve still got plenty of life left in them, and they’re cheap enough to buy & maintain. But combine the big rise in insurance premiums for certain types of vehicle and the hikes in car tax (which I predict will continue to rise much faster than inflation) are going to deprive many people, especially younger people who come from economically disadvantaged families, of any kind of transport. They will struggle & may be unable to have their own car (or motorcycle?).
I think that’s the objective. It’s nothing to do with U.K. or any specific country as it’s happening elsewhere in Europe, too, not in time synch, but the same mood music and responding to the same globalist rhetoric.
I don’t understand why people don’t take Klaus Schwab seriously, when he predicts that, by 2030, “You will own nothing & be happy”. WEF is simply part of a global power complex which includes the UN, the WHO, the IPCC (climate change nonsense) & numerous globalist organisations such as Trilateral Commission, Chatham House, Council on Foreign Relations, the Bank for International Settlements, etc etc.
Do you not recall, early in 2020, all those politicians and public figures, including the then-Prince Charles, who was first to intone, from a lecture somewhere, the phrase “Build Back Better”? They all said it over the course of a few days. Biden, the U.K. prime minister, Justin Trudeau, and dozens more. Nothing was at that point broken. What were they referring to? Klaus Schwab’s “The Great Reset”.
That Great Reset is astonishing and I often find people dismiss it as irrelevant. I can assure you, the globalists, who do not regard themselves as belonging to any particular country, but “citizens of the world”, are hell-bent on returning the world to a pre-industrial era called Neofeudalism. A tiny minority will live like Kings and Queens, Emperors and Dictators. The rest of us will live only by their whims. They’ve decided that they no longer need us to be highly motivated, individuals & instead they want far, far fewer people, most of whom will not have jobs in the rapidly changing world where automation and AI (“smart systems”) dominate. They don’t want us moving around without permission. We’re a threat to them. Certainly once people work out what they’re up to, though by then, it’ll be too late.
The drive away from cash & towards almost all payments being digital, using apps which demand your biometrics to validate the transaction. If we permit the executive to abolish cash, we are absolutely done for. People have no idea how easily our freedoms can be curtailed, or made conditional on such things as “being up to date with vaccines” against the latest imaginary “pandemic”.
You’ll have heard of 15 minute cities? It’s stupid defenders are taking a few pounds to lie to everyone, defending their oppressors in the process. No, it’s not about providing everything you need within a small travel radius. It’s about creating an open air prison, governed by digital “permissioning”. Initially, there will be daily fines if you drive your vehicle more than two days per week. At the stroke of a pen, they could reduce your “travel allowances”.
The best recommendation I can make is to listen to any interview given by a terrific lady called Sandi Adams. She’s been trying to alert people for many years about the encroachment of UN subsidiaries on national sovereignty, in every country. It’s absolutely not a U.K. thing or an EU thing. The frightening UN2030 “sustainable development goals” can be read lightly & innocently, but that’s to fool the unwary. Each of the 17 goals involve losses of our freedoms, and these include things like an ending to low cost flights to sunny places; getting us into cycling, walking & public transport; factory food, including “Eat Ze Bugs”; remote management of our health, hence their desire to force us to accept & use a new, common global format Digital ID. Some believe if they succeed in getting that established, it will eventually be used as a “beachhead” to force us to be chipped, like dogs and cattle. The end of container transportation by sea will result in net food shortages. Their lunatic plans recognise such problems because it’s envisaged that we’d be permitted to buy only three new clothing items each year. Gas fired central heating is to be abolished by law & the best alternatives are way too poor to actually heat up your house.
@GT380man it’s truly shocking what people are allowing them to do, time to take a stand and fight back, let them know we won’t follow these rules
@@GT380man I understand what you are saying and that lunacy has indeed swept the world and many believe that the poor are an outright hindrance and want them eliminated.However history, evolution and human resourcefulness has many surprises. Since the dawn of industrialisation people have got rich by other methods than knocking seven bells out of ones neighbour and stealing his estates. Getting rich by selling things was a lot easier and so today vast fortunes can be made trading resources and social media. As the rich and their children want to stay rich I cannot see them forfeiting that opportunity just because some crank says so. To go back to an old sci-fi film the educated living in giant domes called cities where everything they want and need is provided but outside are primitive mobs that will kill anything that moves. No... my big question is why have the political thinkers gone mad all at once because they most certainly have. The biggest threat is not their daft ideas but the provocation of nuclear war.
@@DoubleZeroGarage I have been thinking about this all day since reading their website as you suggest. There is another viewpoint on this and I am sure you will say it is not it but I am not so sure it is as definite as that and something I would do were I a politician......and that is fidelity to history and authenticity. I have spent the last 35 years in this endeavour as applied to Railways and the top end of the followers don't much care for unlabelled adulteration. If an item such as a Railway carriage or locomotive is to be preserved to museum standard it must be authentic, nothing added. Different if you want to run them then they have to be and most viewers would not notice any difference. I think that it would be bad of them to use this as an excuse to extract road tax from cars which have alterations on them. Given that if, as you say a 2ft section of steel was welded in to an underframe, ground smooth and painted who on earth is going to see that if it matches the entire underframe.?
@rodneycooperLMSCoach totally agree with you, if you take Cuba as an example they were prevented from importing cars and parts for years but managed to keep cars from the fifties running and in daily use with their ingenuity. I’m sure a VW alternator will work on a Ford if wired correctly and the average person would never know the difference. I’ve enjoyed classic cars since leaving school and intend to continue doing so, I’d love to think that this is nothing sinister and I’ve just misunderstood it all which is why I shared the link to it, so that people can make their own minds up. Judging by the incredible amount of views and comments, the video worked and people are now aware of it and talking about it
This is just the return of Type Approval that they tried in the seventies, except then it was for new vehicles only. It was abandoned at the time and then slowly introduced to where we are now with E marked lights etc. They wanted to try and apply it to older vehicles back then, so that all spares and parts had to adhere to Type Approved items only. Theoretically if you can’t get Dunlop Groundhog tyres which many vehicles were fitted with or a Dunlop cross ply tyres the vehicles could be declared unroadworthy. Let’s hope they aren’t going to try and go that far again, because most vehicles will end up as ornaments.
It's not a matter of giving the government what they want, but making sure the government do as we want.
Like that way of putting it and totally agree
thankyou, i will check
Changing a vehicle from fossil fuel to electric is major change to the vehicle, it couldn't be further from it's original state just like putting pvc double glazing in a listed property. There needs to be separate legislation to allow zero carbon conversions.
I am looking for a tillng stevens single deck petrol-electric bus please...
Things like electric conversion could be classed as 'radically altered vehicle' which is already a thing, just loosely enforced.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq I've been building motorcycles from various components for decades, and can tell you now, I've had zero issues, therefore to me, your comment is meaningless.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq you're a strange one, what's with the attitude? Building choppers not allowed then? Okay. Whatever. Have a good day.
Sub frames on Minis where a weak point , so does that mean if you get a new sub frame you loose the classic status 🤔
Plus Hadrian's Wall is a National World Heritage site but has been rebuilt or reconstructed over the years. The wall, originally built by the Romans in the 2nd century AD, has undergone various phases of repair and reconstruction since its initial construction. This has been done for several reasons: Historical Preservation, Tourism and Education & Structural Stability, ain't these the same reasons people keep classic/historical vehicles alive? So, if you apply the same nonsensical rules to heritage sites/listed buildings, there would be nowt left.....
Several owners of cars who fitted a replacement chassis supplied by the manufacturer to the original or improved design were caught out by this maybe 30-40 years ago. It’s no longer a problem unless you are, like the owners back then were stupid / stupidly honest enough to tell the DVLA.
It’s a subframe, albeit one that locates both the front and rear suspension, the engine, the gearbox & final drive.
Every vehicle no matter the age should have a valid MOT.
You can have an MOT done voluntarily.
Its accepted that classic/historic vehicles are well kept, and used intermittently, if at all. MOT is irrelevant.
If I had an MOT exempt vehicle, I'd still have it MOTed, partly as a second (unbiased) opinion as to it's safety, and as proof of it's safety.
The questionaire is part of a consultation process to clarify the registration process for Historic Vehicles of all types, Complete new chassis, bodies or frames (motorcycles) have always caused issues with registration but where should the line be drawn ? Genuine original vehicles are in my view devalued if replicas are considered Historic. To contribute join the FBHVC who are fighting on our behalf.
One of the clubs I’m in are a member of the FBHVC, after they stated in their response to the questionnaire that historic vehicles must be 100% completely original and accurate to qualify as well as saying that historic vehicles cannot be used as daily drivers it doesn’t sound like their helping much. I have three historic registered cars, all of which I use as daily drivers, my cars, my choice. Don’t see why I can’t use them for what they were built for, transport and enjoyment. We all know if a car just sits doing nothing it deteriorates
If someone WANTS to destroy a classic car they have legal possession of. Then they’re destroying its value. That’s both their CHOICE and their PROBLEM!
You don’t own your car nor do you own your driving licence..
The moment you register a car with dvla you become responsible for taxing and insuring the vehicle and also keeping it maintained to an mot standard..
Thats why when you fail to tax it they can legally come along and take your car and destroy it for failure to comply..
Your licence to drive is also issues under similar terms whereby you agree to abide by their rules whilst behind the wheel of their car and if you fail to do so they fine you or remove your licence because it belongs to them..
The dvla are a government agency and act on behalf of the government who make the legislation that your bound by in their terms and conditions..
This is why some people with a backbone have decided to attempt to de register their cars with dvla but usually doesn’t go too well although the government are breaking common law by doing so because they are stealing the vehicle which someone paid their money for and tried to de register from their system.
You live in a massive fraud system that taxes you and steals from you every day and you work to buy things you don’t actually own..😂
@@philiprhodes5537 I don’t doubt you are more right than wrong there. The problem lies in the people who put their faith in a system that once served them. That system is long gone. Sadly the people’s blind faith in what is now a criminal standover gang, hasn’t changed.
@@robertchapman6795absolutely correct and although this has been happening for many years it’s nothing new its only now that people are taking some notice because it directly affects each and everyone of us moving forwards..
I hold a hgv licence and I knew years ago that even though I paid my own training costs my licence actually belongs to the traffic commissioner who at their discretion can revoke that entitlement at any point they wish..
Same thing goes for your normal car/motorbike licence it will never belong to you along with the car you drive..
Its all a con that people buy into and yes your right they are criminal gangs all the government are and the sad part is that people are to apathetic to fight back against them because they empower the police to act on instruction to arrest those who disagree..
Same with covid lockdowns people where detained for merely walking alone in a woodland with no one else in sight just because the goverment overlords passed a peice of legislation allowing the police to arrest those who don’t comply..
Sadly you will never comply your way out of tyranny it will never get better by your compliance only a lot worse because those in charge know they have the upper hand and can use all their resouces police/military to quash any descent from the people..
We live in a dictatatorshio yet no one actually realises it but instead choose to think they have freedoms..
The pandemic treaty will take away your rights to freedom of movement along with freedom of choice because the who will declair a pandemic of something and they will be calling the shots so that would be lockdown and mandatory injections which will not need to be tested because they dont need to..
Said it for years you dont live your best life you live according to the framework set by your government and trust me when I say this your home will be next because their agenda is to remove the right to private ownership of everything which is cars houses land and even your domestic appliances which you will have to rent from the state and will be recycled by them when they are no longer servicable..
This is all information thats in the public domain the wef are proud of their agenda and we the people have zero choice in the matter as far as they’re concerned
that's all very well until you decide to put it on a road and drive it.
The rules about issuing a q mark for cut chassis’s has been in for over 30 years plus the requirements to then have SVA, that’s why in truth most land rovers should be on a q plate., but no one dare declare it because they would never pass SVA
You’re right, but they’ve never enforced it before
@@DoubleZeroGarage back in the day, it depended very much on which local office you went to.
@grilnam9945 yep, my local one was great, they new everything and would help with anything. We need them back
Bourgeois meddling in other people's lives is a obsession with these people all boils down to absolute power and control.
How are DVLA going to know if you've done any modifications? If you don't need to MOT it, no one is going to be the wiser. I suspect that due to the increasing number of historic vehicles and the benefits ( ULEZ and congestion exemption among others), the treasury sees it as lost revenue.
Yep, I’m thinking they’ll bring in an annual safety check for historic vehicles, with a charge of course, that’ll increase every year
Biggest problem here mate, it's all the ulez Dodgers in London and Birmingham driving demand for exempt vehicles. That's why it's come on top bud!
More than likely, demand has gone up significantly since ULEZ came in and certain people realised the financial benefit of a vehicle over 40yrs old
I’m curious, what if a car was restored or had changes made decades ago?
Most classic car on the road have had some significant work on them at some point, including welding work, new parts, possibly different specification items. Are they going to be a problem?
That’d depend on whether they apply the current rules or not, it used to be that if it was done over 30yrs ago they weren’t bothered. There’s no mention of that in the survey though, there’s honestly some real scary stuff in the legislation as it stands now when you read through it and the survey is even worse. A lot of repetition in the questions, almost like they’re trying to catch you out by asking the same thing’s multiple times in different ways. Of course, if you don’t tell them you’ve had the floor of your car replaced…….
@@DoubleZeroGarage Thank you for your reply and information, it’s very helpful.
I’m just on the right side of the 30 year rule thankfully, fingers crossed they don’t change that. It all sounds very scary, and could totally ruin classic car ownership 😕
@michaell8835 you’re welcome, thanks for watching. I think the intention is to ruin all the fun we have with our cars. Hopefully it won’t come to that though
Thats why a Q plate kit car is worth around 1/3 of a correctly registered vehicle using large proportion of its donor vehicle
How will they know unless you tell them 🤔
Can't see it happening as it would be opening a massive can of worms for those that would want to avoid it.
Think of all the rebodied and chassis repaired/replaced multimillion pound historic racecars, if they ended up on a Q plate they would be worthless.
Hopefully it won’t happen, our government are great at opening cans of worms then covering it up and blaming somebody else though
As far as I can see, this is the rules bought in about ten years ago, each major component has a number of points allocated to it, as long as you don't go over 15 points (if I remember correctly) then all will be fine, stop scare mongering. it
s more designed to stop people cutting the body off a modern car and welding on a classic car shell onto it, even that is ok as long as you don't then swap a different engine into it as well.
1:14 Hold on a sec, your telling me fixing rust can invalidate the plate? that's bullshit, MOT's REQUIRE you to fix the rust or they wont pass you, and that includes historics before or after they became that, which bump up each year based on the age of the car, as I know of a guy in one of the old british motoring magazines, that sadly turned into a yellowpages ad, where the guy had a 911, a vintage 69 that didnt pass its MOT's as the floors had rotted out from about 07, or 08'
so that would mean retroactively, if a car like 248 RPA was restored, that would completely invalidate the plate of one of the most famous cars ever made
based on the age of the repair, and what' happens if your into a shunt
It’s all in the details of the survey, not my words. I just made the video to let people know the survey was there and needed completing, to stop that kind of madness being put in place
That’s their goal and they will make it as hard as possible for you to own historic vehicles.
DVLA is only a register , as far as I’m aware you can de register with the DVLA , the actual registration number is not yours , it’s theirs.
It’s all about control and confusing legalese BS and law .
It’s no different to the birth certificate, when your parents were misled to signing it little did they realise they signed you over to the state and Vatican.
Search the legal term register in blacks book and many other things…. You will be shocked.
So by applying that logic ANY car that has that type of repair should be a q plate because the same rule applies. Now if a car is repaired to the same standard using pattern parts then it isn't modified
According to what I read and how I understand it, any major parts replaced have to be supplied by the original manufacturer and come with receipts for them. I’m sure they’re not talking about replacing a door, wing or bonnet etc
@@DoubleZeroGarage Not actually possible in a lot of cases as the manufacturers dont exist. The definition of modified in motorsport is using parts that are not from the manufacturer or do not comply with the manufacturers original specification. I suspect if they applied that it would technically be discrimination because how many current cars are going to manufacturer original parts on them once they come out of warranty That rule will not stand up in court because it is impossible to comply with after a point. If I cant get an origonal wheel for a 1916 Bugatti because the hi quality british roads have buckled a wheel is it not going to be not original? Good luck to them trying to enforce that one in court
@@DoubleZeroGarage Having said that though I do think a newly restored car should have an initial MOT to prove its road worthy. As we all know peoples work is of differing standards
@phoenixmotorsport647 Vastly different in some cases, especially when home restorers don’t always have access to the same level of tools or experience that a professional outfit does
IF you make a repair just keep quiet. Converting a classic EV is sheer stupidity. If Trump gets in EV''s will be gone. We are not in the EU any more.
We need the EU gone, with a bit of look the June elections within the EU might just turn up some seine right minded people, I bet non of the WEF own a classic!
Yes, And EVs are very soon to be the past, So why would you do this to a classic / Historic, I think its stupid, maybe off road if you like that sort of thing, but i wouldnt change them at all to ev, Ive restored many and won awards on cars i done over the years and it was major to get them propper with a logg of my work to the last detale, That is what i call a real logg, not DVLA, thay just want boxes ticked for gov. And thats where you pay the price i gess. This is where we all need to stand up to these FXXKs, not happy as an owner of a fine historic rs2000
They don’t appreciate the time, money and hard work that goes into restoring a car, or the after market companies that keep us supplied with parts, panels and the tools we need to complete the restoration. They probably think we’re all still using chicken wire and body filler
Except the EU are not changing anything for HISTORIC vehicles over 15 years old. This is yet another lie put out by the brexidiots. The EU scrappage scheme for vehicles over 15 years AND BEYOND ECONOMIC REPAIR DOES NOT APPLY to historic vehicles.
Unfortunately we haven’t really left the EU as they still have power over us or it’s our government still tugging the forelock.
We’ll just looked at the forms that need filling in, all I’ll say is we are screwed
It’s not on, everything is fine the way it is now, no need to change it
Will putting a galvanised chassis on my land rover make it a 2024 vehicle even though every other part is 60+ years old ?
No
@@CraigDavies. Is that because it's a like for like part and not a modification ?
According to how I understood it from reading the info on the survey page, you can replace the entire chassis but it has to supplied from the original manufacturer and you have be able to show receipts for it as well
@@DoubleZeroGarage Well they don't make them, aftermarket is the only option, can you imagine trying to get anything from original manufacturer for any make or model of car, they don't stock it, say you need one for a 1929 Ford model T, not like it's an off the shelf item, what then ?
I feel the survey was designed to fail us with historic vehicles and any future for the next decade of classics ( if they survive )
Triggers broom.
Does anyone know how to tag Harry from Harry’s garage?
He’d be very keen to know if he doesn’t already and a good man to have on board.
Unfortunately I’m of an age where I’m useless with all things internet.
I think you just put a hashtag in front of his name, no spaces though like this #harrysgarage
I think it will struggle to get through as there are a lot of rich people in positions of power who enjoy classic cars. They won't tolerate this underhand Agenda 2030 policy. I think that's the same reason clay pigeon shooting etc is left alone
Blimey Nigel. I need to replace part of my nearside chassis rail
It’s really scary when you read through even the current rules and regs, nevermind whatever they want to do to us next. Ask me how to get round some of it at Rustival 2, can’t put it on here
Do a job so we’ll it doesn’t show .
You are absolutely fine to repair anything without needing to re-register. It's when you modify it from original that it becomes a problem. Replacing a chassis leg on a Cortina? Fine. Narrowing the rear for big drag tyres? Not fine, go and get an IVA.
@neildavies2276 you only need an IVA for narrowed back axle if you want it on the road, drag race only and transported on a trailer is ok
@@neildavies2276 Changing brake pipes from steel to cupronickel is modification from original.
Even if I don’t have a classic car, can I help ??
Yes, complete the survey to help, the more support for classics, hot rods, restorations and customisation there is the better. Thanks
If you repair a chassis, there's no way anyone needs to know what you've done - unless you've made a complete horlicks of it.
ring Nigel
Why do you _have_ to fill in the survey?
You don’t have to fill it in, it’s voluntary. The more views from real people they get though, might make a difference to not being able to enjoy our cars any more
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I'm sad to read in these comments that this videos has mostly served to attract anti-establishment political views from those who believe they are standing up to something, and a misinterpretation of the words "alterations", "modifications", and "repairs" to manipulate these fears. So basically nothing is going to change and we should all stop panicking.
I think so, if that’s the attitude conveyed in people’s surveys. It’s a call for evidence, not an assertion of unwanted detrimental action. If anyone had read the website then they would understand that.
Electric conversions shouldn’t qualify as historic same as putting a modern engine in doesnt
Definitely agree with you on the EV conversion not qualifying, doing that changes the entire car, not to mention ruining a classic and removing all its history. Kind of on the fence about a modern engine though, seen many really well done conversions. Morris minors with fiat twin cams and capris with ST170 engines etc. According to the DVLAs current 14 point rule, the engine only counts as 1. They seem to be saying we can’t replace rusty floor pans and chassis legs and still keep the historic ID though, which is the ridiculous part. Thanks for watching
@@DoubleZeroGarage Whilst I have many issues with the current points based system, I think it's probably the least-worst method that could be used. The whole repair panel thing is absolutely terrifying... how many historic and classic vehicles *don't* have some body repairs?
I’d check with Electric Classic Cars channel to see if they know whats happening
Maybe only firms will be allowed to convert vehicles if legislation changes. No more DIY upgrades. "Carbon" Tax next?
@TekAutomatica and that’ll probably only be businesses that are recommended or approved by the government no doubt
sadly, people like Geoff buys cars systematically misinform people about legislation changes. i'm not sure if this is for clicks and advertising revenue because panic buys engagement or because he's got a chip on his shoulder and is a conspiracy theorist, but pretty much everything he reports is either wrong or so distorted as to be wrong.
Your preamble in the video is somewhat misleading; the DVLA says (and this has been the case for the last 40 years or so) "A vehicle can only retain its registration number where there have been no alterations made to the original chassis or monocoque bodyshell (or frame for motorcycles). " note the use of ALTERATIONS. in the next section it uses the word MODIFICATIONS. This is NOT the same as repair. therefore, you are quite incorrect to say that repairing a sill would lead to a vehicle gaining a "Q" plate.
please don't feed into the panic mill in this way; it does no-one any good and the consultation is an attempt to keep the law up to day.
rather than getting social media involved - which tends to be silly, panicky and home to conspiracy nuts - better to contact your owner's club, the VMCC, the VJMC (for motorcycles) or whatever classic car clubs there are out there (I'm mostly a bike person). They should consider a concerted approach and, hopefully, the wider histoic vehicle comunity through the Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs will join in after. But not youtubers. They're not the best place to start....
Thanks for watching and commenting, happy to admit that I may have misread or misunderstood the details that I read through. I didn’t want to do the usual panic video for views, but was really just hoping to let people know that the survey was there as the government / DVLA don’t appear to be promoting it. The info can be read through by everyone and they’ll obviously have their own understanding of the info available. It wasn’t a sill that I mentioned it was the chassis / frame being repaired or partly replaced which is my understanding from what I read
Just keep Labour out they scrapped last 25 year old classic rule therectrying to scrap classics alltogeh
Gov "Has it been restored?"
Owner "No."
There won't be any cars classic or otherwise in 10 years time..Wake up people
Quite correct my friend.
Modern engines built to fail, only maintaining roads on bus routes, non filling of pot holes.,
Car leasing deals....
Paying tax and hiking premiums on EVs, while not substantially increasing the number of charge stations.
You can see between the lines. and , now this.
It's clear they want to end all ownership of all private vehicles.
Government deception once again.
Only if people continue to allow it to happen, time to show them there’s more motorists than politicians and we can’t be forced to give up our cars. They want us all to control ridiculous electric things and yet they still get driven around in gas guzzlers
There will be a profit making reason behind it, I'm sure!
Oh yes, at our expense probably
All I see is them asking for answers to their questions and opinions
Is this survey to be competed voluntarily? I can't see what the consequences of ignoring it with a resounding 'fk-u' might be.
Yes, it’s voluntary. Ignoring it could lead them to think nobody cares what they do or say. They might even just be doing it as a box ticking exercise and put the changes through anyway. It’s not like we’re ever going to see the responses or know the truth
@@DoubleZeroGarage True enough yes. Thanks for your reply
@@DoubleZeroGarage it's just an outward facing facade of democratic process. If it were truly democracy, we could actually vote on this proposal rather than just pop a note in the slave suggestion box. They've already made up their mind, and this is not going to change it. They did this same thing regarding V passports in 2020, and after claiming they had no plans to implement them, did so anyway.
@mcirelandosharma7411 unfortunately they do have a habit of behaving like that, maybe that’s why we have such a hard time believing anything they say let alone trusting them
Eco fascism incoming...🤔
Why?
Why not?
@@DoubleZeroGarage ,why interfere with a perfectly reasonable situation! Why Change it, sorry I seemed so vague!
Here in France we have a very reasonable way of dealing with old cars!
@billburnhope2176 no problem, exactly, if it’s not broken don’t fix it. Always worrying when somebody wants to mess with something that’s doing the job it’s meant for. How does it work in France ?
Any classic vehicle that's been converted to EV should NOT be classic vehicle anymore Otherwise Tesla makes classic cars ----- simple as that
Agreed
@@DoubleZeroGarage Another hit piece on EV cars that`s backfiring onto classic car owners... oh and you wonder why insurance is rising with proven FAKE stories about EV`s that`s now affecting ICE too...
You have never been allowed to significantly change a historic vehicle and retain its status, this is misinformation 101 and scare mongering at its worse, putting like for like is permitted so put a replacement A series in a mini ok, putting a washing machine motor in a mini, not ok (as it should be.)
Agree that significantly changing historic vehicles has never been allowed, but having completed the survey, I can say it’s definitely not scaremongering at all, the questions are asking for opinions as to why a historic vehicle should retain its historic status after having a replacement / repaired chassis or floor pan if it’s a monocoque. They want evidence as to why a restored historic car should keep its identity
@@DoubleZeroGarage I wonder how many jobs will be lost in the EV industry....
I`m reckoning in the millions,
Insurances for EV`s in some cases have risen £500-600 to over £2000 per year thanks to the PROVEN fearmongering/fake stories both on CZcams and the media....
I say start the law suits to those who spread fake news in the media and CZcams about EV`s
You can keep your classic vehicle provided its converted to EV....if not you're off the road.
Dystopia coming to you very shortly.
The EU are not changing anything for HISTORIC vehicles over 15 years old. This is yet another lie put out by the brexidiots. The EU scrappage scheme for vehicles over 15 years AND BEYOND ECONOMIC REPAIR DOES NOT APPLY to historic vehicles.
If your half decent at welding no one would know
Anyone else reading these comments and cringing a little?
Relax guys.
Posh restoration places rebuilding and modifying old cars are all over the net.
They have no regard for the existing rules on modifying and the points system.
MGBs with completely redesigned suspension, ETypes with everything changed, we've all watched this stuff.
It's about time they were stopped.
ooh, your comment intrigues me, don’t get me wrong, I’m not arguing, just intrigued. Are you saying that old cars should remain as they were designed and built? What if the changes make them safer to drive and handle better on roads full of modern cars? I only ask as I have a 1968 dodge charger, originally equipped with manual drum brakes all round and over 300bhp, I’ve converted it to disc brakes and stiffer suspension so it drives and stops better in todays traffic, is this not a good thing ? As I said, not arguing just asking for your point of view
@DoubleZeroGarage The points system does allow some mods but not wholesale, and to such an extent, it's no longer recognisable as the original car.
Turning an old car into an EV is ridiculous if still claiming it's the same classic vehicle. To be a classic vehicle, surely we accept that they have combustion engines?
As always, give people an inch, and they take a yard, especially the very wealthy, using highly technical rebuilders with access to the best tech and part manufacture.
Gordon Murray had an old Escort modified totally, every bit changed, and still has its original plates. But that's ok because of who he is?
However, I'm not supporting the interfering governments, certainly not. But there is a line that's been crossed totally by the very heavily modded stuff.
Ah ok, yep I’d agree with you on that. I made a video a while back where I rang the DVLA and asked if my charger would keep its historical registration if I converted it to 100% electric. To my surprise (and horror) they said yes it would. Not that I’d do something as sacrilegious as that to a dodge charger though, was just curious. It’s like body swapping that’s popular at the minute, why put the body from a classic car onto a new car, destroy two good cars for no reason
As long as the car has it's original spec it should still be a classic
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