There are two kinds of people. Those who produce, and those who criticize them for it. I saw the "issues" in the video (leaky water - been there!,) but I had my Girard GSWH-2 freeze and bust on a trip. Their website said "not a job for do it your selfers. Which means paying retail and labor at an RV repair. After watching the video It was clear that this was so simple even those of you who are their critics probably could do it. That is if you ever do any thing other than criticize the efforts of others!
love the video. just a couple of quick tips tho... you dont need to use that much teflon tape on the fittings and you put it on backwards. It should go the opposite way do when you tighten the fitting, it graps the tape and gets tighter. Very easy install tho.
I think that for your first time working on this and the first time working together that you did pretty good together. It is obvious that you are an experienced professional,Thank you for your help.
Aside from all the 500 pound arm-chair quarterbacks who visit CZcams just to criticize and who have never completed any project other than another trip to the refrigerator, there is not any valid criticism. I will be following your instructions here in my thankless conversion. THANK YOU!!
The on demand function is real nice however we love to use the electrical water heater side to save on propane when I'm plugged into 110 volts. These use a lot of gas as does the furnace. We used an electrical heater for the coach too.
you DO know that PTFE thread tape is only a lubricant to prevent galling, right? With Teflon tape, less is always more.....but, then again, I'm a plumber.
I try to tell people this constantly. it is only meant as a lubricant to keep fittings from galling and seizing 2-1/2 - 3 wraps is all you need. im more concerned about the romex he just taped the end of, they may not touch each other but the entire frame and any metal attached in an rv is grounded and can cause a spark or fire. and you'd be amazed how easily solid copper can puncture e-tape. Always always always cap wire ends that are not in use unless you completely disconnect the wire from the panel (pos, neutral and ground). it takes 2 min to cap them or 10 to disconnect the wire but it wont matter how much you think it wont be an issue its not worth dying in a fire.
@@nightdan7096 he wasn't talking about the 12vdc wire, he was talking about the 110v romex supply line left that wasn't capped properly. Also, electrical tape doesn't hold anything forever.
At around 11:45 notice the 2 x2 is now like 3/4 in shorter.. Guess they didn't want to add that they didn't cut it the correct length the first time. I do agree the water spilling out is that not gonna spill into the motorhome. They always say water is an RVs worst nightmare.
Yeah your right about that. In the end of the video he acted like a drop of water was the greatest sin in the world. But the whole time he was unhooking it water was pouring out of the bottom fitting. He could have at least put a towel under ot to take care of the mess. It must be someone else's trailer.
I had one of these in a Lance 1575 camper. I paid over a $1,000 to have it replaced with a "real" water heater. The Girard was horribly loud, unreliable, inconsistent, and virtually unusable when boondocking because it would not return to the previous settings when shut off briefly at the shower head. It also varied by water temperature in the hose, water pressure, battery voltage, etc. My wife and I called it "That hideous imitation of a water heater".
FYI, never pull electrical tape you're stretching it and it will eventually come loose. Always cut with a knife or scissors. Great videos guys keep them coming!!
what model Girard did you get & what brand/model did you replace? I'm not having any luck finding Girard model numbers for replacing my Atwood 6 gal. Gas water heater! Thank you.
@@katieschipkowski1446 Well I love it when connected to "City Water" because the warm water doesn't stop...as long as you have propane. However my mother did not like it and didn't like to wait for the warm up. Many years later 2020ish I had to replace some lines and now some reason I don't have enough water to get into the system that it shuts off constantly and I have to toggle between tub ad shower just to get enough flow to start the hot water again. I took the whole system back out and pulled the line and screens anything I could to find out why the hot water won't keep heating and I have such a huge loss of water coming out and really just still 2022 do not know why its terrible. I have considered buying a new one just to swap incase its something inside the system that I just cannot see. If anyone has any ideas please share.
@@bobcloughjr Nope, the Romex was 120VAC household current used for the electric element on the original water heater. There are serious residential code requirements that should also apply to RV use.
Thanks for posting this video. Makes it seem pretty easy. I'm not liking my suburban water heater. Still researching tankless. I'd like to find a unit that can run on gas or AC electric. Not sure if they exist. Like the idea that while in a park I have more than one option. The park I'm in only has 30 amp service. To run my AC I've got to switch stuff to gas to conserve my amperage. I forget to check my tank levels and if I run out it's nice to be able to shower and not be an emergency trip to fill my tanks.
Looks like Service MANAGER and OWNER made the video...rush rush rush. Do it right the first time...these are the reasons I work on my own trailer...but thank you for the half explained wiring.
If you are going to disable romex you can tie the white and black together then if someone connects the other end for some reason it will trip the breaker vs. them connecting it and not knowing the wires are live
WOW, for two guys that are showing us how to do things RIGHT @ 16:58 YOU DON'T NEED 7+ WRAPS OF TEFLON TAPE. And if they were "High-Quality Brass Fittings" you would NOT need 7+ wraps....
NOt quite that easy for many RV's! Major plumbing job because existing plumbing isn't even close to units fixtures. Gas line may need to be shortened as well. And getting the correct door is a challenge as well.
Thank you for this video . Why are these not 12 volt , propane and solar 3 in one Why don’t you turn the board the one way and get away from the knot in the wood.
All us masonry contractor DYers need is how to determine the 12 volt hot and ground ( I assume you followed the two wires from the rv gas switch) ... But how to tell if the other 2 wires are the wrong ones????
HI, I have just put a brand new Gen 3 system in mine, it worked perfectly for a 3 weeks, not when I set a temp it rises and wont sit at the designated tempm for example, if I set the temp at 35 C, it will rise until it get to 43 degrees C (celsius). I have checked filter,s leaks etc and everything seems to be fine. Any ideas?
I have problems with my hot water tank now. Lots of water going in and barely a dribble coming out. I took it back out cleaned the little intake screen but still nothing. What do you recommend? I have even considered buying a new one to swap out incase it could be something else but what do you say? TY
I got lost on how to identify the wires that go from the pump and the water heater switches in the coach to the new hot water heater: ( if you wanted to make a new video with just the edits of the inside wiring, pausing with a little more explanation, that would not make me mad at all.
Good install, but two issues bother me. The putty tape on top should be full width to avoid any chance of water seeping between the horizontal and vertical seams. Second, the 120 volt lines not separated and taped together with a few wraps of tape and stuffed inside the compartment is really amateurish.
It would be nice to know the specs. And the price. The tankless water h7eaters that fit perfectly seem to offer pretty low temp gain and are certainly not inexpensive.
hey guys. I didn't understand the reason for the elbows. I have an atwood g6a-8e that i want to replace. do i need to convert to the elbow size to get the hot and cold water lines to hook up? also what is the actual elbow called? thanks
Great video! I do not have propane tanks on my travel trailer nor want to install them. Is there a tankless water heater that does not require propane to run? I read this unit needs both propane and electricity to operate.
Just installed the v2 version of this unit. Yep, it needs 12V to kick on and propane to continue running and supplying hot water. Best upgrade we made to our class C motorhome!
So I've been reading about these. Have you experienced any issues with the awful awful water you get at RV parks? There's so much sediment, hard water, iron etc. Love to get your thoughts.
I have a Fleetwood Bounder which as the hot water propane / electric switch in the stove vent so how would I connect that into the new control module on the new water heater. I think the video is more worried about a simple frame verses how to run the electrical control module to make the whole system work. The old water tank only has 2 red and 1 black.
No no, weather connections please, rvs sit over the winter and condensate some what to a degree. Matter of fact, put those into a j box and run a new harness.
Yeah let all that water drip inside the Rv and start warping the floor and mdf all around there. Also didn’t relieve the pressure before draining. Also didn’t use a back up wrench when loosening the water lines. They get a grade of F
I can only speak for Residential tankless heaters... (which these operate similar to).. they require significant power to run on electric. I'm gonna guess the RV versions are Propane only. I would be very surprised if it could run on 30amps, or even 50 for that matter.
i just got one of these girard tankless water heaters and have been watching several of these installation vids. that jigsaw aint nothing lol. in another vid a guy has the same issue with the opening being to big and he takes a hacksaw with a metal blade and goes to town cutting through a 2 x 2.
You "CUT" the Wood(2x2) on a 'KNOT' in the wood..you should have moved your Cut mark away from there....even if you had to CUT both ends of the 2x2 to get the right length h(sigh)...'NEVER!' have a Wood Knot....at the END of any length of wood
Don't get one of these. The User Control Panel won't open up. The blower won't start blowing. Without the blower sending a signal to the computer, the gas valve won't open and the igniter won't start the heater.
Your wasting your time installing that junk Gerard heater I have a new Gulf Stream with one of these junk heaters or I should say warmers. If the incoming aster is cold it will not hear the water above 77 degs. Plus’s it takes about 2 qts of water before I get warm water to my shower or sink !
There are two kinds of people. Those who produce, and those who criticize them for it. I saw the "issues" in the video (leaky water - been there!,) but I had my Girard GSWH-2 freeze and bust on a trip. Their website said "not a job for do it your selfers. Which means paying retail and labor at an RV repair. After watching the video It was clear that this was so simple even those of you who are their critics probably could do it. That is if you ever do any thing other than criticize the efforts of others!
"Amen" Don!!!
I give you guys credit for actually posting this on youtube. ..im glad I don't own that camper geez
Lmao
What’s wrong?
love the video. just a couple of quick tips tho... you dont need to use that much teflon tape on the fittings and you put it on backwards. It should go the opposite way do when you tighten the fitting, it graps the tape and gets tighter. Very easy install tho.
I think that for your first time working on this and the first time working together that you did pretty good together. It is obvious that you are an experienced professional,Thank you for your help.
Thanks for showing the real process! Super helpful.
Aside from all the 500 pound arm-chair quarterbacks who visit CZcams just to criticize and who have never completed any project other than another trip to the refrigerator, there is not any valid criticism. I will be following your instructions here in my thankless conversion.
THANK YOU!!
Thanks guys! You're like Car Talk's Click and Clack but for RVs. Always a pleasure to learn from you guys!! Cheers! 👍🏻👍🏻
The on demand function is real nice however we love to use the electrical water heater side to save on propane when I'm plugged into 110 volts. These use a lot of gas as does the furnace. We used an electrical heater for the coach too.
Thanks guys for a fantastic instructions video. Now I feel more confident tackling the installation on my bus.
you DO know that PTFE thread tape is only a lubricant to prevent galling, right? With Teflon tape, less is always more.....but, then again, I'm a plumber.
I try to tell people this constantly. it is only meant as a lubricant to keep fittings from galling and seizing 2-1/2 - 3 wraps is all you need. im more concerned about the romex he just taped the end of, they may not touch each other but the entire frame and any metal attached in an rv is grounded and can cause a spark or fire. and you'd be amazed how easily solid copper can puncture e-tape. Always always always cap wire ends that are not in use unless you completely disconnect the wire from the panel (pos, neutral and ground). it takes 2 min to cap them or 10 to disconnect the wire but it wont matter how much you think it wont be an issue its not worth dying in a fire.
@@nightdan7096 he wasn't talking about the 12vdc wire, he was talking about the 110v romex supply line left that wasn't capped properly. Also, electrical tape doesn't hold anything forever.
At around 11:45 notice the 2 x2 is now like 3/4 in shorter.. Guess they didn't want to add that they didn't cut it the correct length the first time. I do agree the water spilling out is that not gonna spill into the motorhome. They always say water is an RVs worst nightmare.
You don't want to scratch the outside door but you let water run all over the inside of the cabinet onto the floor. ??? WTH?
Yeah your right about that. In the end of the video he acted like a drop of water was the greatest sin in the world. But the whole time he was unhooking it water was pouring out of the bottom fitting. He could have at least put a towel under ot to take care of the mess. It must be someone else's trailer.
10-24-23. Fine job. Came out easier then mine.
"WOW"
We are watching some Professionals...
It is obvious that these guys have done this
before... Great video...
Thank you for sharing...
I had one of these in a Lance 1575 camper. I paid over a $1,000 to have it replaced with a "real" water heater. The Girard was horribly loud, unreliable, inconsistent, and virtually unusable when boondocking because it would not return to the previous settings when shut off briefly at the shower head. It also varied by water temperature in the hose, water pressure, battery voltage, etc. My wife and I called it "That hideous imitation of a water heater".
"Ouch"... Not a good review...
Thank you for sharing this..
Sounds like a case of user error
@@iair-conditiontheoutsideai3076 The error was BEING a user of a Girrard water heater.
@@bobbethwhite7161 maybe you would be better heating your water over a fire seems like it would be around your era
Great video. You must own stock in Teflon tape.
Rogue Drone I know. You're only supposed to wrap around once right?
Once you exceed 3 wraps, it's called Teflon shim!
FYI, never pull electrical tape you're stretching it and it will eventually come loose. Always cut with a knife or scissors. Great videos guys keep them coming!!
I also use tie wraps at the ends of electrical tape wraps to keep tape from coming loose, works great.
Close your eyes and Red Green is doing the install.
"If the women don't find you handsome,..."
They should at least find you handy. Love it lol
Good video. Should have had a wet or dry vacuum handy inside to soak up the water.
I can't believe you guys let the water pour out of that and run all over the floor, I would have had a cap ready to stop that.
Yeah then you would have been lifting 6 gallons extra weight. Its water bro why wouldn't you let it run out
I think it showed exactly how the average owner would handle the water drainage. 👍🏻
What water, if you pretend you don't see it? It will be gone!
@@pnuema1.618 RV cabinets are pressed cardboard so any water is an issue
@LP cylinder mine are not pressed cardboard, yours are? How cheap?What make is your rv?
Tom and Jerry here. Guys Dutch this video please, carpentry 101, allow room for the bracket. Always measure the unit your installing first
Sounds weird.. but I wish both those guys wore long thick haired wigs (Dolly Parton style). Just think it would make for a better video.
Thank you, that was awesome, i'm about to install my Girard Tankless WH maybe this weekend :)
what model Girard did you get & what brand/model did you replace? I'm not having any luck finding Girard model numbers for replacing my Atwood 6 gal. Gas water heater! Thank you.
Warren Cash I just purchased the girard GHWH2 which is a replacement for the Atwood 6 gal. I found it on PPL.
PlayGirl how did the install go and how has the system been working? Looking to buy a tankless propane heater replacing my Atwood 6 gal asap. Thanks!
@@atkgrl what's PPL?
@@katieschipkowski1446 Well I love it when connected to "City Water" because the warm water doesn't stop...as long as you have propane. However my mother did not like it and didn't like to wait for the warm up. Many years later 2020ish I had to replace some lines and now some reason I don't have enough water to get into the system that it shuts off constantly and I have to toggle between tub ad shower just to get enough flow to start the hot water again. I took the whole system back out and pulled the line and screens anything I could to find out why the hot water won't keep heating and I have such a huge loss of water coming out and really just still 2022 do not know why its terrible. I have considered buying a new one just to swap incase its something inside the system that I just cannot see. If anyone has any ideas please share.
Should have put that "Romex" in a junction box.
With each wired capped with a wire nut.
Lmao that would be a bit overkill for 12 volt electric
@@bobcloughjr Nope, the Romex was 120VAC household current used for the electric element on the original water heater. There are serious residential code requirements that should also apply to RV use.
Thanks for posting this video. Makes it seem pretty easy. I'm not liking my suburban water heater. Still researching tankless. I'd like to find a unit that can run on gas or AC electric. Not sure if they exist. Like the idea that while in a park I have more than one option. The park I'm in only has 30 amp service. To run my AC I've got to switch stuff to gas to conserve my amperage. I forget to check my tank levels and if I run out it's nice to be able to shower and not be an emergency trip to fill my tanks.
Looks like Service MANAGER and OWNER made the video...rush rush rush. Do it right the first time...these are the reasons I work on my own trailer...but thank you for the half explained wiring.
I have a camper that does not have electric run to the heater. Any suggestions on how to do this? Do you have a video on how to do this?
Umm, did you guys ever clean up all of the water you spilled on the inside??
I had the exact same question. I bet the answer is NO!
@@furlvr1961 Necro'ing this thread to point out how trashy this comment is.
@@mesterjess Huh? You're not making any sense whatsoever!
If you are going to disable romex you can tie the white and black together then if someone connects the other end for some reason it will trip the breaker vs. them connecting it and not knowing the wires are live
Nice. Greatings from the alps in south germany. I hope i can install this... the laws here are very dificult about gas.
As you’re letting gallons of water pour on your floor.... Some peoples children don’t you know anything about mold?
Like the stuff on fancy cheese?
Funny to watch, Slow down guys....and clean up that water !!
always release the pressure with the T&P valve first!!!!! It will still have pressure even with the water turned off.
🙏 you guys are the best!
WOW, for two guys that are showing us how to do things RIGHT @
16:58 YOU DON'T NEED 7+ WRAPS OF TEFLON TAPE.
And if they were "High-Quality Brass Fittings" you would NOT need 7+ wraps....
Geeze mate. We get it, you're better than them.
NOt quite that easy for many RV's! Major plumbing job because existing plumbing isn't even close to units fixtures. Gas line may need to be shortened as well. And getting the correct door is a challenge as well.
Thank you for this video . Why are these not 12 volt , propane and solar 3 in one Why don’t you turn the board the one way and get away from the knot in the wood.
All us masonry contractor DYers need is how to determine the 12 volt hot and ground ( I assume you followed the two wires from the rv gas switch) ... But how to tell if the other 2 wires are the wrong ones????
Very clear instructions
always make sure the propane was tight before you loosen it, everyman does this
HI, I have just put a brand new Gen 3 system in mine, it worked perfectly for a 3 weeks, not when I set a temp it rises and wont sit at the designated tempm for example, if I set the temp at 35 C, it will rise until it get to 43 degrees C (celsius). I have checked filter,s leaks etc and everything seems to be fine. Any ideas?
I would of had a shop vacuum on standby to vacuum water and debri?
Wouldnt a utility knife cut the silicone a little faster and easier?
Do you have to bypass the tankless water heater when you winterize the camper
I have problems with my hot water tank now. Lots of water going in and barely a dribble coming out. I took it back out cleaned the little intake screen but still nothing. What do you recommend? I have even considered buying a new one to swap out incase it could be something else but what do you say? TY
I got lost on how to identify the wires that go from the pump and the water heater switches in the coach to the new hot water heater: ( if you wanted to make a new video with just the edits of the inside wiring, pausing with a little more explanation, that would not make me mad at all.
Their going to nail it but screw it in. Good job.
Can the old Atwood door be used? My decals extend down onto the access door.
I've a Girard hot water heater not satisfied with it at all it will quit heating the water right in the middle of the shower
Why tighten the fittings so much ? You used enough Teflon tape
Will it benefit us if we don't use hook ups
Good install, but two issues bother me. The putty tape on top should be full width to avoid any chance of water seeping between the horizontal and vertical seams. Second, the 120 volt lines not separated and taped together with a few wraps of tape and stuffed inside the compartment is really amateurish.
It would be nice to know the specs. And the price. The tankless water h7eaters that fit perfectly seem to offer pretty low temp gain and are certainly not inexpensive.
Does this water heater work at a altitude of 8,000 feet? Nice install, good instructions.
Outstanding video!!! Great quality job!
hey guys. I didn't understand the reason for the elbows. I have an atwood g6a-8e that i want to replace. do i need to convert to the elbow size to get the hot and cold water lines to hook up? also what is the actual elbow called? thanks
Great video! I do not have propane tanks on my travel trailer nor want to install them. Is there a tankless water heater that does not require propane to run? I read this unit needs both propane and electricity to operate.
Just installed the v2 version of this unit. Yep, it needs 12V to kick on and propane to continue running and supplying hot water. Best upgrade we made to our class C motorhome!
So I've been reading about these. Have you experienced any issues with the awful awful water you get at RV parks?
There's so much sediment, hard water, iron etc.
Love to get your thoughts.
What model number is this unit .. I believe it will replace my current hot water heater
I have a Fleetwood Bounder which as the hot water propane / electric switch in the stove vent so how would I connect that into the new control module on the new water heater. I think the video is more worried about a simple frame verses how to run the electrical control module to make the whole system work. The old water tank only has 2 red and 1 black.
How do you figure which door to get?
Also is there a reason you didn't put plumbing tape on the water connections inside the couch?
He used flared fittings they do not get Teflon
What kind of electrical do I need
can you guys come and install one in my rv? Super helpful videos!
Ah, how about remove the ac line from panel. maybe use that line for another ac outlet in kitchen area.
Do you have to have propane? Is there an electric tankless water heater that will run off Solar using batteries?
Thanks, but the GIRARD GSWH-2 appears to be a far better unit from watching the other videos.
Really unbelievable... I would suggest you try it first on your own, before filming and publishing... ;-) ;-) ;-)
Did I miss you saying you disconnected the electrical power?
Nah he was just going to" tape the ends so it doesn't short".
Classic
Learning to reading a tape measure would help and put enough tape on the threads on to eliminate the threads
No no, weather connections please, rvs sit over the winter and condensate some what to a degree. Matter of fact, put those into a j box and run a new harness.
Need info on how to install in a 2000 5 th wheel
Yeah let all that water drip inside the Rv and start warping the floor and mdf all around there. Also didn’t relieve the pressure before draining. Also didn’t use a back up wrench when loosening the water lines. They get a grade of F
Why isn't the Gerard company available for customer service???
WHAT!!!
NOW... That is a good question!!
Do you need a filtration system for this if the water your hooked to is hard.
Will the tankless Girard, pull and be a load on 30A ? does it mean we cannot run AC at the same time?
I can only speak for Residential tankless heaters... (which these operate similar to).. they require significant power to run on electric. I'm gonna guess the RV versions are Propane only. I would be very surprised if it could run on 30amps, or even 50 for that matter.
I'm guessing they know not to give you guys beer before you start?
can a tankless water heater freeze and burst?
Most can be winterized with RV antifreeze, or they have drains. Or both.
Hey, is there an altitude limitation on these things?
9:35 oh my lord!
i just got one of these girard tankless water heaters and have been watching several of these installation vids. that jigsaw aint nothing lol. in another vid a guy has the same issue with the opening being to big and he takes a hacksaw with a metal blade and goes to town cutting through a 2 x 2.
You "CUT" the Wood(2x2) on a 'KNOT' in the wood..you should have moved your Cut mark away from there....even if you had to CUT both ends of the 2x2 to get the right length h(sigh)...'NEVER!' have a Wood Knot....at the END of any length of wood
I don’t think you used enough Teflon tape🤷
Good video would yous recommend this to a family off 4 and a family pet
Yes
why cant you install a house water heater in an rv?????????????
You can do anything you put your heart to.
@@timothyefowler1984 cool
Does any one have experience with this WH over time? Is it difficult to get shower temps set like some others?
Don't get one of these. The User Control Panel won't open up. The blower won't start blowing. Without the blower sending a signal to the computer, the gas valve won't open and the igniter won't start the heater.
Does it work?
Is there a reason to put the variable flame switch outside the cabinet? Could it be placed inside?
I don't see why you couldn't. Inside might keep little fingers from turning it
Dean Hauser lm
Class acts
Where do I get the control valve?
Glad that's not our RV. Geez.
Do you have the part numbers for the adapter and door to replace an Atwood 6 gallon set-up?
Did you ever get this answered? I’m looking now for the same thing
@@4490reddock www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073JP5H33/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@4490reddock www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073JP5H33/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So many little things wrong about this video. Always wire nuts and tape on unused wire!
I hope someone didn't pay for this install. lol sorry.
I don’t think hitting him with the hammer would help. They could have got you another helper 😊
Your wasting your time installing that junk Gerard heater I have a new Gulf Stream with one of these junk heaters or I should say warmers. If the incoming aster is cold it will not hear the water above 77 degs. Plus’s it takes about 2 qts of water before I get warm water to my shower or sink !
Not instant. It's demand based. Sheesh.
If you squint hard enough you won’t need glasses.
LAUREL AND HARDY, NEW OWNERS WHO DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THERE DOING, LOL
motor62500 they're, not there...