Why do PILOTS DEICE? Explained by CAPTAIN JOE
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Dear friends and followers welcome back to my channel! Today´s video is another interesting topic regarding winter operation. Why do aeroplanes have to be deiced prior take-off? A lot of passengers underestimated how important it is to deice the critical surface of the aeroplane, such as the wings, flight control surfaces such as ailerons, slat and flaps rudders, vertical and horizontal stabilizer.
On the ground, when there are freezing conditions and precipitation, de-icing an aircraft is crucial. A lot of passengers underestimated how important it is to deice as frozen contaminants cause critical control surfaces to be rough and uneven, disrupting smooth air flow and greatly degrading the ability of the wing to generate lift, and increasing drag.
If larger pieces of ice separate when the aircraft is performing a take-off run, they can be ingested into engines intakes or hit propellers and cause catastrophic failure.
Frozen contaminants can lock or jam control surfaces, preventing them from moving properly.
But there is a major difference between De-icing and Anti-Icing an aircraft.
De-icing is defined as removal of snow, ice or frost from a surface. Anti-icing is understood to be the application of chemicals that not only de-ice, but also remain on a surface and continue to delay the reformation of ice for a certain period of time, better known as the hold-over time (HOT), or prevent adhesion of ice to make mechanical removal easier.
I´ll shortly mention the aerodynamic characteristics, regarding airplane stall speeds, in case an airplane wing is covered with thin ice.
DEFINITION OF A STALL:
Stalls in fixed-wing flight are often experienced as a sudden reduction in lift as the pilot increases the wing's angle of attack and exceeds its critical angle of attack (which may be due to slowing down below stall speed in level flight). A stall does not mean that the engine(s) have stopped working, or that the aircraft has stopped moving - the effect is the same even in an unpowered glider aircraft.
I hope you enjoy this video! And I would also like to thank @photoaleksi (Instagram) for the outstanding thumbnail picture. And all others helping with their videos and support!
Thanks for watching, all the best your "Captain" Joe
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this man is a legend, he explains detailed, i dont even have anything to do with pilots or travelling but its interisting.
Totally agree
32lxx6ika 88 same
Abbas Fakhoury
True. He reminds me of my good old high school physics teacher.
Agreed
Never thought I'd be so intrigued by details on flying like this
Totally read that as "deese"
Matt Deras I read it as dice, but then, I reread it correctly after being confused.
"why do pilots throw the dice?"
Why do pilots get diced?
I misread the title as "Why do pilots dance?"
Me too same deice dice
Joe you’re the best
Appreciate it, thanks!
Tru
Indeed!
This video reminded me of the Air Florida flight 90 crash, which is a stark reminder of what can happen when a plane is not properly de-iced.
Correct, that was an accident cause due to lack of deicing!
Matthew is your last name buckley. Cause if it is we have the same first name and same last name
Kinda The same that happened to SAS flight 751, I think
Mentour pilot and Joe video at the same time. This is heaven
I remember flying out of the Toronto, Canada airport during a blizzard. My plane was de-iced twice. When we finally started our takeoff run, I just remember looking out of my window, and thinking, "We've been going down the runway for a LONG TIME now, and we still haven't left the ground..." It was only later that I realized that we probably used up every foot of the runway to takeoff. That freaked me out.
Love you Captain Joe ❤️👌
A "Captain" can be a positional title. I was a "Captain" even though I held the rank of Commander...I also had the positional authority/responsibility that came with it. Also, corpsman in the Marines are often called "Doc" yet everyone knows they're not "Doctors" per se. C'mon...
I couldn't help but laugh at the windshield wiper flopping around.
I’m a ramp agent for Southwest Airlines, my favorite thing about the ramp is Deicing it’s an amazing opportunity to have the privilege to do such a thing!
And my colleagues and I appreciate your work !!!
Having flown regularly in the Midwest USA, thank you for explaining where all those hours of my life went.
We really feel your passion for flying, Joe!❤️Keep up the good work, your channel is amazing!✌🏻
Dear Captain Joe, can you explain how aviation radio communication works? e.g. from before leaving the gate, taxiing, takeoff, while in flight, before landing, after landing, and last but not least when arrive at the gate. Also, how to properly call for both normal and emergency (pan and mayday)? Thank you!
well there are 2 differences in radio^^ if its a VFR flight or its a IFR flight with a fixed flight plan so in terms of airliners 1. requesting flight clearance for the flightplan 2.requesting pushback and taxi 3. tune in tower for take off clearance 4.contact departure 5. during flight u will pass sectors so if no changes or so happen in a sector u will hear just to contact next sctor control like contact vancouver center at 111.90 before landing u will speak to approach in landing to tower and after landing and leaving the rwy ur speaking with ground^^ and for emergency calls PAN PAN PAN (Callsing) is DECLARING PAN PAN PAN due to xxxxx Problem repeat (callsign) is declaring PAN PAN PAN due to xxxxx this is also the same with mayday but mayday means that this problem is very serious ;) like PAN PAN PAN Minimum Fuel (can be used when ur getting to the fuel limit to safely divert so u cant stay in holding for much longer and atc will get u faster to the ground)
we are from China, we enjoy your videos with our son every weekend, thank you so much,great channel !
Man, I've been an enthusiast of flying for years but I haven't seen anyone explain it so clearly and openly.
Thank you for what you're doing.
It means a lot to me.
Thanks for not dumbing this down, and still explaining it in a simple format. Well done!
Joe, you are inspiring, keep smiling!
Awesome video Joe! I work at FedEx express and I'm part of the deice crew. We shoot for a 5 minute spray and most of the time we go under that. Love the videos man! Keep up the great work!
Beautifully explained. Thank you Mr.Joe, the loving captain
Dude you make very good videos, as an spanish speaker and as a student pilot, this is very helpful to practice my english and in the way learn more about operations and aircraft system!! Very good work Joe
Loved the video an the details. Have a fantastic week to you.
Thank you Joe for such detailed info. Living in a semi tropical climate in Sydney, we never experience such shenanigans.
Awesome and very detailed video....as usual...thx Captain Joe!!
Joe, you never fail to impress me in all of your video presentations. Excellent!
Ur videos are always AMAZING !!
Following you since a good 6-8 months and love your videos man !
You're doing a great job and your videos are very interesting 🤗
Green...all green, all winter in Eastern and Central 🇨🇦 😃
Loved the G-CJOE 🇬🇧!!!!!!
Love your channel, you make all those details interesting to listen to. Keep up with the good work :D
Love these videos, when I watch its always .. "i had no idea....", but it makes so much sense.
Thank you Captain Joe. Your videos are very informative.
This is a really cool channel you give a lot of good information about flying that makes traveling on a plane more fun for me
I have to say that your videos keep me motivated in wanting to follow my dream and also motivates me to study harder to achieve my dream that I'll be some day a pilot like you.
Another great video Captain Joe, i really like watching them, so many interesting topics about aviation, thumbs up! :)
Your explanation is very precise! Keep up the good work
Thanks For The Information Captain Joe.
Was on a flight from Kraków to Munich an early February morning in 2015 (had been to the Queen+Adam concert the night before, and even saw their private jet at the airport 😍) and the aircraft I was sitting in had to be de-iced before takeoff. It was just a pretty cool experience as a passenger to sit and look out through the window while the plane was de-iced. It was really fascinating
captain Joe you are amazing you have taught me many things and why I shouldn't be scared about flying thank you!!😃🛫
Another excellent video. Many thanks
Love your video on tribute to airberlin. I watched the final flight video on DW yesterday, Berlin to Munich. Interestingly, the flight was delayed.
With love from Nigeria.
very interesting! and well made with the pictures of written pilot-processes!
G-CJOE...clever! I love your channel! You have a very talented way of using CZcams to educate people about your profession. I hope you land happily on your feet during this company changeover. I know those mergers/acquisitions/bankruptcies can be rough on a pilot's career.
Yay It always makes me happy to see Captain Joe:)
Loved it Joe!
The production value of Joe's videos are so good! ✈💖
Very much appreciate your comment, thanks!
Captain Joe much love from Ireland!
Great video Captain! Can't wait for the next video :)
I was once in Serious Snowstorm in the Snow belt area of Erie PA ,USA in a Plane about to take off just Days before Christmas!We taxied to take off,accelerated and suddenly skidding of Brakes as the Plane struggled to take off! Luckily the Pilot 👩✈️ managed to stop and managed to get back to the Terminal!Where the Ground crew started spraying Deicing Chemical! Unfortunately we had to deplane and make our way back to hotel to try again another! Than God for the Skillful Pilot with a Full Tank of Gas and over 200 Passenger on a Plane that could have easily skidded to a Disaster! Hear! Hear ! For Pilot having to make Split Second Decisions And their Skillful Expertise Flying Aircraft!✌🏼👋👌👍✌🏼👏🏼👏🏼🇺🇸
This is great video that explains a lot. My last flight I saw green fluid running of the wings during take off. I thought the plane was loosing hydraulic fluid but now I know why. Many thanks Joe
Thanks for the good explanation.
Joe you are the first pilot ever who tells everything in detail.. You're the best... Man keep it going!! 👍👍💪make a video about pilot's medical and eye test
Hi! I love your content, Joe, and I have a suggestion in order to make it more esthetically pleasing. Have you thought about defusing the light you use to record? I'd also try placing it closer to the roof, if it's possible. I'll be glad if you find it useful. Have a nice day!
Awesome video, as always🔝
Amazing video as always
its was my long time doubt.............. now cleared thanks Captain..... Ah Ah Sir....
Can you do a video about carburettor icing? Great video, always love watching them.
The thumbnail looks absolutely stunning!
Loving the videos joe, love how nearly all of them your saying "basic" information lol would you do any more in depth on technical knowlage?
I know nothing about aviation but everything you said made perfect sense
I JUST LOVE THIS MAN!
Perfect as always 👌
Dear Joe.
Thanks for all videos. ✈
I've seen the duration of deicing vary based on the type and amount of ice. Had the first flight out of Cleveland and it took quite a while to get the plane clean from the overnight storm.
Only seen type 4 once, didn't know exactly what it was at the time but I knew it had to be for more extreme weather. It was crazy to see it stick to the plane through most of the take off.
Joe I just want to wish you the best of luck at your new job wherever it may be!
Thanks Matthew, appreciate your comment!
Very good information.....
Loved to learn....
Very good and helpful information captain ! Thanks 👍🏼
Pleasure!
Thank you very much, Joe!🙂
Nice video Joe keep up the good work
Really good video content and interesting way of explaining things. I also must admit that I find it funny how you seem to like the word 'therefore'. :D
Up here in the Edmonton International airport we have a special pair of deicing pads for the planes that have just left the gate if the temperature ever goes below -35c or we have heavy snow. Despite a general deicing treatment while taking on passengers these planes are directed to these two deicing pads where four trucks are waiting to give the plane additional deicing. They are very quick about this and the trucks are custom built just for this airports use in allowing full remote deicing boom operation because the jet engines are in idle. The Tarmac is also good for the environment as it is hooked into a dedicated water recovery and treatment system. Any plane waiting for more than 30 min while in taxi also must be called back to this deicing pad to make sure no ice built up as it was waiting to take off. Our weather is that severe.
In the 1980s, there was a scandal in Austria over anti-freeze in their wine. I read somewhere that to get rid of that year's wine production, they mixed it up with more anti-freeze and used it up over the winter at airports.
Keep up the good work Captain !🚁💨👍
Great explanation!
love you captail joe...really u r my favrit
Great video! can you do a video about the jet engines particulary the contemporary engines like the ones used in the a350 and dreamliner
Propylene glycol is not that toxic, but may cause irritation, so closing air bleeds is still a good idea.
Thanks for the info!
Indeed! If propylene glycol was toxic we would see piles of dead e-cig smokers (vapers) on the streets. Propylene glycol is used (instead of ethylene glycol) as de/anti-ice agent for airplanes because of it's not toxic.
We would also see airport ground services recruiting new deicer personnel constantly. Besides deicing airplanes, propylene glycol is used as a food additive (E1520) and intravenous drug carrier fluid and many more uses. ☺
yeah i also did think about it when its so toxic how they can be allowed to spray this in the outsides :D
Ethylene glycol, the type used in your car for antifreeze is toxic... but a few years ago they added a substance that makes it very distasteful. It was killing a lot of pets.
Excellent videos, thank you Captain Joe, there are helping me understand flying and beat my fear of flying. Could you do a video on turbulence to understand what the pilots do when they are flying through turbulence? Many thanks.
well done animations again!
You are amazing..captain💪
Please upload videos with quick successions..!.
Hey Captain Joe, I subbed. I will be looking forward to your amazing future videos.
Very interesting and important topic sir.
Joe, another good video. You brought up the Static Port. Could you do a video on explaining its purpose? Yes, I know, I could look it up, but I enjoy your real world explanations.
The static port is worth a whole video, for sure! I´ll see what I can do!
That music you arr playing i love it i am listening it al the time 😍😍😍
Btw you are great love your work and info thank you for that
Thanks and greetings to Holland!
Thanks for explaining this in more detail. I used to have a friend who was a pilot for Jet Blue, and he explained to me that if a plane has a certain amount of ice it flat out can't fly.
Joe, love the vids, but here is a request, can you do a video on CZcams thoughts about the current situation some airlines are/were in (Like Monarch, Alitalia, Ryanair and especially Air Berlin?!)
:)
2:25 That is how a real pilot should fly their plane, all the time, even in summer
Hey Joe. I work at Vestergaard Company. We build De Ice trucks. It's great to be able to show your video to friends and family so they know why my work is important 😁
Awesome. I've driven your trucks in Toronto and Winnipeg Canada at the major airports. Love those Beta's and super Beta's
It's actually so cool seeing the planes deice
Your explanation level is so high !
Really interesting video!
Fantastic information Captain JOe! Thanks for sharing this. I never miss a video of yours. Can you please explain us about ILS and its related areas? That would be great!...
Thanks.
Samrat Bose.
Awesome video!!! Can you make a video about the airline you work for? Eurowings or AirBerlin? Can you only fly A320s or other types of aircrafts built by Airbus? Congrats for your videos, all the best Giorgio from Italy!!!
Good one captain.
Thanks 4 the info
Thank you Captain Joe 🙏I love heat ✈️✈️✈️
Superb video.
Back at it again with the ✈️✈️✈️✈️
Love from india joe....keep up great work
Cap. if possible please explain AF447 incident in next video for better understanding.
Very nice videos Captain Joe
Thanks your AWESOME !!
Love your videos