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FREERIDE VS FREESTYLE INLINE SKATES
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- čas přidán 19. 01. 2018
- Hey guys it'sa me, Tiago the french inline skater and today we are going to compare Freeride skates with Freestyle skates! what are the differences between thes two types of inline skates?
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The lowdown (especially for newbies), as best I can tell:
1. Recreational and fitness inlines are very similar. Many folks - like myself - start or have started on recreational inlines. Kids' inlines are more apt to be recreational, I'd think. Both recreational and fitness will have longer frames (the part that attaches to the boot and holds the wheels in place). They also tend to have removable heel brakes for learning or using the heel brake.
2. Freerides and freestyles would probably both be classified as free skates. Freerides and freestyles both have shorter frames that are better for slalom, skate jamming and tricks. Freestyles sometimes have rockered frames (banana-curved, like surfboards). Great for turning and tricks, bad for newbies who don't have great balance. Freestyles with flat frames can get a rockered configuration by using smaller wheels for the toe and heel wheels. Freerides are apt to have flat frames but should be able to accommodate a rockered configuration through different-sized wheels, like the freestyles. So, the main difference in the end is probably going to be the higher-performance boot of the freestyle. Now, other folks may call both Tiago's freestyles and freerides as "free skates" or "freestyles". How, then, are they differentiated? Tiago's freestyles would then be known as "slalom freestyles" or "slalom (free) skates". Non-slalom-specific free skates might be known as urban skates, for example. But honestly, look at the quality of the boot, and consider whether or not the liner is removable, whether or not abrasion pads can be replaced, what material the cuff /outer shell is made of - in other words, consider quality. Slalom free skates - Tiago's freestyles - are pricey for a reason.
3. Tiago recommends freerides (basic flat- / non-rockered-frame free skates) for beginners. I learned on recreational skates. I think Tiago is right, if you want to get into slalom or jam skating (skate dancing). Recreational skates are good for touring, and I can do some slalom and skate jamming on mine (Rollberblade Macroblade 80, women's in my case). It's hard for me to say which would have worked better for my daughter and / or me, because I think that my daughter and I may have benefitted from the somewhat longer frames of the recreational skates, vs. the free skates we did not have as newbies. I do, however, recommend flat-framed free skates (i.e., freerides) with a removable heel brake. Heel braking is a fairly powerful form of braking when used properly. Admittedly, it does take a practice to learn to use it well, like learning to brake on a bike, in a car, or on a motorcycle. The heel brake should be removable - and changeable to the other boot / leg, if you need that. So, you should be able to remove it as you gain confidence as a skater and find yourself branching out to various stopping methods.
4. Tiago used a triskate frame on his freeskate in the video. Triskates have three wheels per boot / frame and are generally for speed / touring / cruising trails. Tiago probably could have mounted a four-wheeled frame on the same boot, depending on mouting configuration and frame availability. Speed skates can also have five wheels per skate.
5. Just as there is a rockered (banana-curved down, toward the middle) configuration commonly used on freestyles / slalom skates, so is there an anti-rockered configuration (small wheels toward the middle) used on aggressive skates. Aggressive skates should also have a grind gap / "grind block" in the middle for grinding coping at the skate park. On my aggressive skates, I am actually only skating on two wheels, like on a rockered slalom frame, except that my outer wheels - rather than my inner ones - are the larger ones touching the ground. I'm sure it would be much easier to carve / turn sharper turns on slalom skates. It is challenging on aggressive skates, both because of the wheel setup, but also because of the blocky wheels used in aggressive skating. They do, however, provide good stability. I do not, however, recommend aggressive skates for complete beginners - maybe after a beginner has mastered a number of basic skills, including non-heel-brake braking techniques. Also, unlike with recreational skates that have unisex / men's, women's and children's sizes, aggressive skates tend to come in adult unisex sizes. This is probably often the case for many types of inline skates. For me personally, it hasn't yet been a huge deal being a lady and wanting to learn aggressive and slalom.
6. Roller hockey skates rely on a variant of a rockered wheel setup.
7. Inline figure skates exist. They're called Pic Skates. They have some sort of small wheel or stopper at the toe, no heel brake, and 3-4 wheels, seemingly of about the same size. Yes, you can learn inline figure skating as your skills progress, if you want.
8. You can rocker a triskate by having smaller wheels for the toe and heel wheels.
9. Aggressive, slalom, roller hockey and pic inline figure skates probably tend not to have heel brakes. We tend to use other braking techniques in those situations for maneuverability and safety.
10. There are variations in terms of size, shape profiles and hardness levels of wheels in the various skating disciplines. It would be best to learn which would be most appropriate for your skating discipline (skating style) and skates.
11. It is recommended to rotate your wheels to even wheel wear over time. After a while, you do end up replacing the wheels and bearings. Also, if you have removable frames, be sure to check your screws every once in a while. Obviously, stop and check your skates if you notice anything amiss. One time, I cleaned the dust off my bearings and did not fully secure a wheel. I got a clicking sound as I skated briefly on that one skate right afterward. Once I noticed this and fixed it, problem solved. = )
12. Many bearings are sealed, meaning there is no need to service them, other than wiping the dust off of them every once in awhile. To do this, I do take mine out of the frame and then put them back.
13. Bearings come in different speeds and qualities. Higher ABEC ratings may mean higher speeds and quality, but not necessarily. There are other rating systems, too, like Swiss, for example.
14. Ceramic bearings still rust out, due to the metal housing of the bearings. And, the ceramic ones may or may not be able to withstand hard landings.
15. Lastly, roller skis also exist, if you'd like to practice skiing in the off-season. Slalom inline skating may lend itself well to developing downhill / alpine skiing skills. Food for thought, as your skating progresses. = )
Just make your own video guy geez not trying to read all that
Pretty good explanation. Gives some good details about skates
Thanks for the details
Is there a such thing as freestyke roller skis for skatepart that I can buy? They only seem to be for xc.
Hi, I'm planning to buy skates but I only want to use them for transportation, would fitness/recreational skates be good?
I started on cheap fitness skates just over ten months ago, I've worked my way up to Red SEBA High Lights after hearing such good things from you and other youtubers about SEBA, I've been so happy with my purchase.
I recently got the Flying Eagle Ego frame in Red which is rockerable and the difference I feel turning and such is amazing.
I can't wait to get into the summer and start street skating again. I have my eye on some cheap old style FR1's as my next purchase, I'll put my old Deluxe frame on them and going to swap all the silver parts onto my highlights to match my Ego frame. Thanks for all the help, you've made me such a better skater with your suggestions. Keep it up Tiago
pey666 awesome! :D
thank you! :)
Your montage quality is improving a lot. Great job, Thiago.
Nunzio Annunziata thank you very much!
Hi
Just for noobs, remember the screws are made from poor metal so be careful when configuring your wheel setup. I’d recommend buying new screws with stronger metal. Also be prepared for a situation where you strip the screw and can’t get the screw out. if that happens you’ll need to visit a garage or workshop with a drill and specialised bit. Screws and wheels are what are going to set you back money wise so be aware of that.
Stuart Gardner the screws of Seba skates are the same you find on Speed skates! they are even stronger than the allen keys themselves.
I remember destroying the screws of my aggressive frames ( Ground Control FL2 ) and yeah, these ones are made from poor metal.
that never happened to me with Seba's screws :)
Tiago Inline Skater Unfortunately my seba screws are very bad quality but im glad yours were better quality. I bought the trix 2 2016 and am very disapointed with Seba because of the screws.
Wow, I didn't know inline skates have so much depth to them. Nice video
HAHAHA so many types of skates... but do I have to wear freestyle skates for slalom competitions?
HeatherPilarMusic well, slalom is usually done with freestyle skates! I have a friend who was a former pro skater for Seba, and I remember he once participated in a slalom competition with a pair of FR1, but then moved to the igors :)
Tiago Inline Skater Wow that's great! Congratz on the 10K subscribers! In-line skating is definitely making its comeback 😀! And the bloopers though, that person who just passed by never noticed your camera 😂😂😂
HeatherPilarMusic und ich
Awesome man! Thank you for the video and advice! I'm thinking to start again inline skating, I think the freeride is better just because I'm not planning to do any special complicated tricks, just go for long rides by the water (bicycle lane) and maybe a few very small jumps, but I don't think I need freeride, since I won't be doing any tricks.. thanks again!
Freestyle*
Good recomendiation.. im using fr1.. but unfotunately in malaysia there is no seba suppliers to buy new pairs.. only can buy online from skateshop.. i just bought 2 pair for my kids last week fr j and seba junior..
Hey Tiago, you mentioned the shorter wheel base for better maneuverability. That makes total sense. Nevertheless, some of the "pros" use bigger wheels (like 90 or even 100 x4) and therefore longer frames. I specifically have the "Wizard family" here on CZcams in mind, especially thinking of Shaun Unwin and Leon Basin. On their skates you can clearly see the wheels extending far over the length of the boot. They are, however, quite amazing when it comes to maneuverability. Why are they using those longer wheel bases? I can imagine they give you a higher degree of (front/rear) stabilty. I like that idea. I also like the idea that you can go faster on bigger wheels. So is that maybe a compromise between maneuverability and speed?
I'm asking, because I want to get new skates and those two factors (maneuverabilty and speed) are important to me but also stability. I was aiming for 4x90 now but after seeing your video, I'm not so sure. Should I go for the "classic" 4x80. Do you have any advice?
Listening to you speak French while reading the English subtitles, I just realised: French people completely smoosh all their words together! No wonder I can't get the hang of spoken French!
Your my favorite youtuber EVER!
Has anyone noticed the background music? Was that always there or is it new? I like it.
I THINK it's the first time I'm using this one :)
thank you so much tiago you helped me to be a better skater ,your videos are amazing . keep up with the good work .
Mohamed Hisham glad I could help! thank you! 😁✌🏼
Sympa la vidéo, même si je dois avouez que j'ai un peu de mal à suivre en anglais mais c'est bien au moins je le travaille ;) Continue ce que tu fais j'adore :P
Je crois qu'il y a aussi des chaînes au sujet des rollers en français. Je suis américaine, mais je voudrais bien en apprendre en français aussi. Je commence à le faire. = )
Hi Taigo, am a Sierra Leone freestyle skater, and I like your video.
Sorry for the late comment
Ok! Now I know I want a freeride for my secondary pair. Thanks for the info Tiago. You even used my ideal pair as the example. Love those FR1 in white, especially after I saw “The Finch” on Ricardo Lino’s channel when he was in Barcelona.
Daniel Naron awesome!
yeah, I too love the white FR1's 👀❤️
maybe I'll buy them someday? they look so cool! ( and it's different from the black skates 😂)
10k Subscribers :D nice one ! Keep the nice work !
Support3r thank you very much 😁✌🏼❤️
Hey... Brother I'm from INDIA and I loves to do skating while earlier I'm having roller skates with boots attached to it but now I wanna switch to inline skates after a very long time.... like say around 7 yrs but here is the maine problem I'm facing to purchase a inline skates for me so plz recommend me some very good stuf to go for in freestyle or free ride skates my size is 8 accordingly please help me out to purchase the best for me please mention the name of the brand and size and lastly I just love ur style of doing skates.... please help me as soon as possible bro.
Speedskates are also able to be molded to your foot.
Dire Wolfy yes! I wrote many other things in the script for this vid; but it would make it super long, and maybe become boring; so I decided to only keep the esentials :)
Tiago, I think the main thing confusing a lot of us is that a lot of us may confuse recreational skates for fitness or free skates.
But admittedly, I was also thrown off by the triskate frame for a while. Most of us don't even know that some boots can accommodate frames with a different number of wheels. So, 4 vs. 3 wheels - especially when we learn that triskates are the most popular type of touring / fitness / speed skate right now..... I think you can see my point. ; )
Bro i am New beginner but i want freestyle skate.. i don't know what is good? which to choose? What should i Use? i want to Use freestyle skate always as going here and there ... which skate will be good for me??? Please suggest mee....bro
Freerides (flat-framed / flat-configured free skates) if you're a complete beginner. I'd recommend a decent quality one with a removable brake.
Great info. Thank you much friend. Best video on the subject
im start in 26 y.o. and myu first sc. is SEBA HIGH LITE BLACK. Now is the 2nd season and i change my bearings and wheels to the SEBA Luminous LED and BSB SWISS bearings...
Hi Tiago, I'm 45 years old and I'm looking to buy my first skates.
I have no experience but I know what I want, I want the FREESTYLE, it will be my style. I'm on a tight budget and
I found here in Switzerland the "Seba High Deluxe 80" at 280CHF and the "FR1 80" at 320CHF.
It would save me about 40 Francs. I don't know if the High are more complicated to start skating and if they suit me.
Thank you very much!
powerblade fxr is good choice for freeride?
Hey tiago please make a video on you are skating in freeride skates you have why I am saying because some of the people can not afford pro Skates so you can say them It is possible to skate with free ride skates u can change everything thing think about it... Oh sorry I said your line z😋😅;-)
thank you for this video!!! im almost about to buy some skates and this video came at the perfect time! :D
Nice video man thank you. In Aruba is 29 degrees celcius
What's the difference between both skates and roller hockey skates, like Mission or Bauer?
Very informative. Thank you
suddenly saw mine was a freeride with a freestyle frame and wheels? and sort of pre-rocked?
Same here 🤣
Men that does freestyle / aggressive inline skating do you take it slow or do you go at it?
I'm asking because I would love to start inline skating, when I was little in Miami My twin sister had a pair I used them before I grew taller and ruin her skates.
I want the black ones on the fhoto of video what is it named cause i'am a frestller too
Une review des usd aeon 80 serait géniale, on en parle peu mais il semblent vraiment sympa!
Do you recommend either of these skates for beginner skaters?
3:02 oh shit is this why my skates are so broken down? Sure ive had them for a LONG time but ive always ignored damage from falls because i never fell often
Flaying eagle F6s falcon is freestyle skate?
Do a video on how the profile of your wheels affects your skating
Yes, a rockered frame or setup should make turning easier. I find carving easier when wheels have a rounder profile, too.
I wanna go for the Powerslide Swell 125 Trinity, is it worth to replace the basic trinity frame for the pro trinity frame? i ask this because where i wanna order them you can customize the skates and the frame is one of the parts they can replace for you.
Im *hopefully* getting the seba high 2017 model for christmas, finally a skate for high performance.
Could I use Bauer Vapor Xr400 skates as skates just to skate indoors and have a few jump competitions
I don’t know if I should go for freestyle or aggressive :( will look for some vids to help. I should get both lol
Thanks for the info, your awesome.
Kiko Salinas thank you! :)
Salut.. Est-ce que vous avez déjà joué du roller inline ici, au Quebec - Canada?
I am Suresh from India I need inline skates in a low price with good quality and my size is 39-43 can u prefer anything good one to me to buy
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Question. Should I get Freestyle skates or Fitness. I don’t do many tricks but I want to go fast and be able to have a lot of control. Any recommendations? (I’ve been skating ever since I can remember)
Hannah Andrea I recommend you FreeRide skates!
most fitness skates are no good! they are just confortable, but lack everything else ( almost )
Freeride skates have the advantage to be both confortable and very performant! plus you have the advantage to change frames and other parts so they will last a lot longer!
the only fitness skates I can recommend you are the Powerslide Swell. these fitness skates are different :)
I'll havr to watch again and slower. I saw the difference between other skate types versus these two, but didnt catch the difference bewtween the two.
Hey Tiago? can you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help me make a decision?
I'm the type of skater who likes to do a lot of jumps,
1- Would the freestyle skates be durable to absorb chocks when I land from jumps?
I weight about 125 lb and I have a small foot (7.5)
So what do you think?
I really appreciate your help?
What wheels are those?
hi Tiago,, it also raining here in malaysia. T-T
Amir daud I understand you .... :')
nice video!
Cryingraven thank you!
you might wanna start make your videos episodical, with headings in capitals, so you can actually distinguish between types of videos, having different styles and put them in playlist, etc... if you want, of course :)
good idea! 😳✌🏼
Now the difference in wheel sizes also... I'm using a full rocker on my highlights but I'm wanting to either mount a Seba GT100 frame or go for a tri frame and mount either 100s or 110s.
Still trying to figure out what I want for skating around the streets as it's too hard on 76/80s
Martin Hibbert I'm preparing a video about that in association with Seba skates :) how do your skates behave with different sizes of wheels and frames? :)
Tiago Inline Skater I don't have different frames or wheels yet.
It's something I've been looking at doing on my skates for a while now but cost of frames is holding me back.
I could get new skates for the price of the frames
What the difference from Seba high to the Seba high light/carbon? Are they a hybrid from the FRX and High light or totally different? My other question is the the FRX different for the FR1 and FR2?
Cant speak for SEBA's but for the FR series, most upgrades from FRX to FR3 to FR2 to FR1 are small, being strap, wheel, frame, bearing, and other boot upgrades.
Hey tiago I'm a big fan of ur channel and I'm a beginner what are the best skates for me
Tiago did a comparison on fitness vs freesrides. He is a proponent of freerides for beginners because of their greater versatility vs. recreational and fitness skates. I started with recreationals. They aren't bad but do have longer frames, which slalom and jam skating a bit trickier.
I'd recommend freerides with a removable heel brake for beginners, although my recreational skates have very secure frames, and the boots are pretty comfortable. I actually prefer my soft, no-liner recreational boots. I find them quite secure and comfortable. By comparison, I also have aggressive skates with liners.
@@lyndagruen2047 but u are woman, why are u playing agressive skates ?
Im from states. Anyone know reliable source to buy freerockered skates?
Who is the better
I love my seba fr1 but i must try to ride rockered set. It can be even cooler.... maybe:)
why you used smaller wheels in the front and baĺck the red ones ?!
C'est Ambroise que l'on voit en wheeling slalom dans le gymnase ?
👌💗
Early!
When I was small and just started out, I didn't care about the weather.
I still don't...
Price 4 wheels bro
K Tiago, you're funny and everything but you better have apologize to Moana for being a good friend and make him stand out in the cold with you
I did apologise, and after the Live vid, we went straight to a restaurant 😂
Well said.
¡Мэ энканта мучо эса мусика!
Me pregunto cuántos habremos entendido este mensaje :p
@@Bavmorda Interesante - Интересно. Estoy contenta que a Ud. le gustaba la música en el vídeo. Я рада, что вам понравилась мусика в видео.
thaaanks! .)
well done
City Blades thank you! :)
I agree with this comment.
hi
Shaival Nathwani hi! 😁✌🏼
Me the person who uses free ride for freestyle
Me to , because the prize cheaper
My fingers no our fingers
I'd like to have learnt much more about ride dyanamics/how they feel when riding :/
Je regrette vraiment que tes film ne sommes pas réaliser full francais :-)
That is not Carbon Fiber, that's thermoplastic. It's so you can heat up your shoe and mold it around your feet.
The High Light Carbon has a carbon finer base, and isn't thermoformable :)
@@TiagoInlineSkater Oh okay. Speedskates usually have thermoplastic
Can I get a pear of skate at africa
Parle francai stp
This is a racist video, there are other types of roller skates
fitness skates are not a species they are a semi-species (mixed).
which are better for slides and shuffles