Heather X Alejandro: When Villains Fall in Love
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"You can't let the bad guy win!"
Heather: "You mean I'm the good guy?"
Such a powerful moment when you're a kid, watching Heather go from nasty in S1 to tolerable in S3
She has alos season 2 and 3 to get caracter developed (but still kinda salty that they forgot that Lashana and Heather were getting friends with eachother)
BOTH HEATHER AND ALEJANDRO SERIOUSLY TOXIC. 🔥🔥🔥🌎🔥🔥🔥😈🔥🔥🔥😈🔥🔥🔥😈
Heather had one of the best redemption arcs in cartoon history
I read that as cancer developed 💀
@@juliaboskamp9666true!! I feel like they forget a lot of developments they start. Also leshawna deserved much more.
“A road to a girl’s heart is a long one, but chocolates are shortcuts” is such a hilariously good line
As a woman I can 100% confirm
Alejandro had the best quotes 😂
I mean, it would work on me. LEGO also works.
Would work for me, but not my friend. She absolutely hates chocolate 😂
absolutely
Alejandro was definitely one of the highlights of World Tour as Gwen, Duncan and Courtney were falling from grace. Heather still remained entertaining and Alejandro was an absolute hottie.
Dude that entire love triangle ruined the show
Exactly
Topher and Chase are hotter than Alejandro
@@StaciROTIbi I couldn't agree more. Like, despite Topher being a Chris wannabe I still thought he was charming and handsome. Chase is also quite the looker. There are so many Total Drama characters you'd just love.
@@HexMyEnemies It will still haunts me as how Trent was done dirty. Like, I would've liked to see more from Trent other than being the nice guitar player guy to Gwen's goth rebel.
These two were the villain couple of my childhood. I especially love that Alejandro isn't a copy of Heather and, in some cases, is better (in terms of effectiveness) than her.
When he said in the first episode that she's a saint compared to him, he wasn't kidding.
I love that scene though
He wasn't even smiling, you could tell he meant business
Other fun Villain couples would include:
Draken x Shego
Dr. Girlfriend and The Monarch.
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f honestly sometimes hes the devil compared to her and sometimes shes a lot worse it depends on the situation
Heather is the only gaslight gatekeep girl boss allowed. She works because we aren’t supposed to sympathize with her unlike some people
Unlike who? Could you name some specific examples if you could?
That trope did not start out where they were meant to be sympathetic and she is not the only example of it. What sets her apart is that she was also a competent competitor where as most were just some rival to beat.
@@toadlord8594 2 big ones for me are Amy Farrah Fowler from the Big Bang theory and Donna Pinciotti from that 70s show
@@phantom-ri2tgWhat’s wrong with them being a rival towards the nice girl? That’s still some good Foe Yay.
@@toadlord8594 Because it means their purpose is to be defeated by them. It is a character archtype built to fail so the protagonist can climb over them.
where as Heather again was an actual competitor. not just some wall to be defeated.
Crazy how Heather, a girl we rooted against due to being such a jerk to characters like Gwen, ended better off than anybody else when it came to relationships
Yeah funny how that works, They don't even really touch on Heather and Alejandro after all stars so far as we know their still together. Which good I rather believe that then have them pull another love triangle out their ass or dumb break up plot just for the sake of drama. I get its the shows name but at least be creative ffs-
Who's we? 🤭 lol. I've always rooted for Heather even when she was a jerk to Gwen.
Atleast Heather knew what she was doing with Trent was wrong. Gwen kept insisting she did nothing wrong to Courtney.
@@ItsEricaBeyetch It almost feels they tried to retcon the fact she kissed him when Courtney and him were very much STILL together. Ngl this show likes to gaslight us lol
@@vampybyte7812Only rationalisation is the inbtwn the Action finale & Celebrity Manhunt special where they got estranged after the Raccoon thing, but it still wasn't a cool move from Gwen
The best villains in the total drama series and the fact they ended up in a romantic relationship was so shocking but honestly they work so well together. I’m still so mad she never got her prize money in world tour.
Ezekiel at least still had the case and tried giving it to the Jersey Shore caricature. Not sure if the money is still valid though.
@@gutsmasterson2488the money disentigrated,Zeke gave Snookie a fake diamond instead
@@dark-winged-angel136 I forgot about that because I didn’t want to remember too much of revenge of the island. Thank you for reminding me.
she probably wouldnt have been on all stars if she got the money
@@little_cody13 I mean Owen came back to compete after winning same for Duncan. I’m sure it would be the same for Heather her ego would want to win more money.
“This is How We Will End It” is an absolute banger. That’s a fact.
I honestly like the Aleheather parts of "I'm gonna make it" better.
CORRECT
*COUGH COUGH* Condor *COUGH COUGH*
@@stevenquartzcutiepiedemayo8272it’s good but not the best
True
Words cannot describe how happy I was when Heather won World Tour. She was a favorite in Island because I watch other reality shows, and could see (at least early on) that she was a good strategist and was playing well. She let superiority complex get in her way, and was taking unnecessary risks to tinkle in everybody's cornflakes, but I still saw her for the competent player that she was. But watching her go from the most hated player to the "good guy by default" and having everyone cheering for her was so satisfying. But either way you slice it, World Tour is the only season in which no matter how you slice it, the winner is a villain no matter what. Heather was merely the lesser of two evils.
Literally love Heather so much 😭😭
@@jams1070Same honestly ❤
@@jams1070one of the best characters fr
Heather:PREPARE FOR TROUBLE
alejandro:AND MAKE IT DOUBLE
HELP YOU DID NOT 😭
I like how Sarcastic Chorus has taken a break from the shipping drama of other serieses he's covered to focus on the shipping drama of TDI
He usually does this.
this is normal for him lol
Yes. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss.
*evilly rubbing two hands together.
Alejandro really was like “together we can rule the world!” Like bruh you’re a teenager
LET HIM COOOK
I think Heather sees through him immediately because when you manipulate people constantly, you tend to know exactly what to look for. Also manipulation that involves building goodwill simply doesn't work on habitual backstabbers
Heather and Alejandro are one of my all time favorite TD couples! Even if they are antagonists though nowadays it seems like antagonists finding love interest's in cartoons is a rare thing, But even villains need to find love too.
I wished we saw them team up more, they'd be an unstoppable force
Heather and Alejandro was My Ship back in the day. I really wish we had a season of them just constantly working together. They would have been OP in the Riduculous Race.
That would have been a hilarious season. I really want a reunion episode with them together and are sickeningly sweet with each other and evil as hell to everyone else.
They could've kept Noah and Owen as well but Alejandro and Heather needed to be there.
I don’t care what anyone says, this was the best couple in the series.
It somehow made fans want to see them both succeed and fail at the same time.
Nearly fucking DIED when he called Cody "The resident Beta male".
For real.
“Heather’s the only person to have him figured out”.
Poor Noah…
They kinda remind me of Shirogane and Kaguya. Heather can think on her feet and is great at improvising. Meanwhile, Alejandro devises long term plans and accounts for various scenarios. Which is probably why I loved their romance so much.
I would love to see au art of that. Lindsey as chika and Harold as ishigami
Omg YESSSS this is why I loved aleheather’s dynamic so much
Reallll
the best use of “enemies to lovers” ever.
26:53 Actually, Heather was going to keep to their agreement until Sierra explained what happened to make her go after Heather, angering her enough to join Cody and Sierra in voting Al off.
This ship is why World Tour is my favorite, I don't care that most people hate the season. To me Heather x Alejandro more than makes up for the rest of the season's flaws
World Tour is a fan favorite season, actually. I've seen MANY claim that it's Total Drama's best, like the choice is always between World Tour and Island.
@@8nicopink868 That's good to know! I just assumed that people didn't like it because I've seen so many people randomly hating on World Tour recently
@@JinxFan2003 Really? I haven't really seen that.
@@JinxFan2003World Tour and Island have always been the top favourite seasons
@@kirin1230 As they should be
27:20 in hindsight, you know what could have been a genius play? Heather voting herself off. Let's do the math. Sierra had immunity and legally couldn't have been voted out, had Sierra not messed up; she and Cody already agreed to vote Alejandro out; while Alejandro and Heather "agreed" to vote Cody out. This leaves Heather is a position where her vote doesn't affect the outcome at best or causes a tie between Alejandro and Cody at worst. Of course, she couldn't possibly imagine that Sierra would accidentally blow up the plane, BUT, from previous episodes where she experienced first hand, she knows that a surprise reward challenge not only will sabotage the outcome (since the only thing that decides what's a reward challenge or elimination round is Chris's whims), but that the voting can and WILL be shown to the contestant if it will stir up the pot further, *especially* since she herself BENEFITED from that very last one. With all of that in mind, the absolute best and smartest play Heather could have made in that moment, where she knows with absolute certainty who each person votes, was to vote for herself in case Chris was up to any shenanigans. That way, both her alliances stand, she didn't betray Al and while in the moment he might be confused at best as to why Heather voted herself off or slightly miffed that she didn't follow through with her vote, he'd get over it immediately afterwards as she didn't outright betray him
Damn, you can certainly impress Heather with that kind of strategic planning
@@pkmntrainerred4247nah you'd impress Alejandro. Heather would just be pissed that she didn't actually do that.
But if Chris showed the votes then Alejandro would know she betrayed him
Aleheather will forever be one of my favourite ships.
They work so well together and are comically cute in the ways they often trip over themselves trying to avoid admitting their feelings.
Even when they commit to the romance, it’s so cringey it’s actually fun - which was beyond surprising to say most of All Stars tried to be funny and failed miserably -
And the relationship never waters down the characters, if anything it fleshes them out. Sure they’re assholes but they’re teenage assholes, still able to fall for their own emotions and get caught up in their long winded games.
There’s a lot wrong with world tour as any season when you get right down to it, but it provided one of the most refreshing villain couples I’ve ever came across; they weren’t even technically a couple until All Stars.
The thing I like the most about Alejandro is that the character had insecurities and was allowed to very expressive.
It would been so boring if the writers always tried to make him look like this manipulating pretty boy who always needed to appear to look calm and in control.
“I can’t explain it, which is a lie, cause I will” perfectly encapsulates this channel
Nothing better than being awful together ❤️
Alejandro and Heather’s relationship is one of the two reasons World Tour is my favorite season. The second is Noah the GOAT! Also his dynamic with Owen. So good they did it twice (Ridonculous Tour).
I definitely love seeing Heather and Alejandro as a couple in Total Drama! These two villains are made for each other even though Heather is annoyed with Alejandro at first, I think these two are definitely perfect for each other. Evil Love.😁😈🖤💘
Yeah they are one of the best Villain couples out there. Like if Gaston (Beauty and the Beast) met Classic Maleficent lol.
@@toadlord8594That would be funny.😂
@@toadlord8594 And now I'm thinking about Gaston and classic Maleficent... Well mark me down as scaroused.
Thru out my time seeing this show as a kid, this takes the phrase "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" to a different levels
I feel like this couple is a cautionary tale of what happens when a writer focuses to much on the journey of a ship being confirmed.
A lot people like to see the journey but at the end there left with a generic couple fixated on love.
This is why you have so many shows end with a couple getting together because writers don't want the auidence to see how boring a couple is when they get together.
These two deserved a whole show on their own 😂
For real 😂❤
This couple altered my brain chemistry and I would go to battle for them
I will absolutely fight alongside you
@@YesIAmTheRatCalledLabyrinthAs would I
they are our toxic parents!
God, for all of World Tour's faults, I still love the main plot we got with Heather and Alejandro. The fact that they managed to make Heather "the hero" without actually giving her that much of a redemption arc is so fun, and I still maintain that the World Tour final two was the best in the franchise. They were both plot relevant, had an interesting conflict with one another, and you could really see either one of them winning was absolutely peak. Island's climax was in its final three, and Gwen/Owen as a final two is actually kinda boring in comparison, while Duncan/Beth is just... so random and boring lmao.
I actually gotta say that Heather said herself that her parents did electro therapy on her to make her a nicerer person and her parents are total douches to her
After the extra extension Love Triangle plus one dynamic, I was actually wondering and awaiting whenever these two in particular would get looked upon. Crazy how their dynamic as well as the whole Love Triangle explosion happened within same season.
Where the 26 episode format was able to provide several big plot devices within the same season and why most say World Tour was end of the Peak Era for the series.
One of the rare couples on the show that had depth and actually went out with a good sense of closure. All Stars made them a little too lovey dovey for my liking in the finale but it’s still amazing for Total Drama standards.
Honestly? They're the one couple from the show that I would believe would last
For real. Based on their personalities
@@Mr.WestcottXPersonally one of my personal favorite Foe yay of Heather x Gwen was mostly my own desire for Enemies to Lovers
But Aleheather is just pure perfection.
@@toadlord8594 definitely.
Now imagine how cool they would look as participants in Ridonculous Race. Where there are no votes, temporary alliances, betrayals, but instead the cohesion of the couple is required from beginning to end. I would look at this
Too bad they never did a Season 2 of it 😢
As someone who saw world tour before TDI, I didn't get the extent of the hatred other characters had for her and just rooted for this clever underdog
Heather was ALWAYS my favorite TD character, even back in Island. I remember Alejeather being one of my very first introductions to the “enemies to lovers” trope and god I’m still obsessed.
Geoff and Bridgette both followed the themes of the producers rule of “Not all relationships work out” while also absolutely defying it.
They formed their relationship in Island, went straight to constant second base, (Because that’s how far cartoons are allowed to go on screen) then had a huge rough patches where Geoff let greed and vanity take control of him. Then ANOTHER where Bridgette cheated on Geoff (Even though she WAS being manipulated). Then as of Ridonculous Race they were still an official couple and Geoff turns down the idea of saving a princess because he already has Bridgette.
If there’s a year between Action and World Tour and a second year between World Tour and All-Stars. Those two have been canonically dating for two in-universe years, which is highly impressive.
"And shit, I forgot about All Stars."
Ah yes, a phrase that applies anytime the original TD cast is praised.
I think the reason Courtney sides with Alejandro during the finale of World Tour is because she believes that they’re a couple. You have to remember that Courtney was emotionally vulnerable after her breakup with Duncan, and Alejandro almost immediately started a false seduction on her. So, what I think happened was, due to her vulnerability, she genuinely believed they were boyfriend and girlfriend. She doesn’t seem to realize that Alejandro charmed her out of the competition since she still clearly likes him even after getting voted off. Also, when Alejandro confesses his love to Heather, Courtney is the only one who doesn't react with joy or disgust. She was pouting over it because she realized that Alejandro had played her like he played Bridgette and Leshawna
Villans together are always so fun
Alejandro and Heather were the best villains in TD, they always made it entertaining and fun.
Yeah, I ADORED these two as villains and as a power couple
Indeed. Hot and Evil
I've never watched total drama, so I am consuming it entirely through you, cos it seems like more fun.
Same lol
I watched it as it aired with a few gaps, it is a weird but great ride. Being so close to reality but also being cartoony. It’s stuck in a past but tried reinventing itself so much. There is no show like it and there might never be.
watch it, fool
It's free to watch here on CZcams if you want.
world tour had some of the best writing man. the way they made you root for heather without changing her character, n even made alejandro grow on you,,
I loved how they always matched the other's energy
I'm Italian and I grew up on total drama, it was huge here
Cool. 🇮🇹
Female power fantasy is not getting a hot guy. It's being able to say no to a hot guy because you are just that cool.
I remember watching world tour and so wishing they would make these two "camp counselors", assisting chris in future seasons. It wouldve played to their strengths as villians and explore their dynamic as a couple, while adding something new to the series!
By the time Total Drama ended originally, this was easily my favorite couple. I love a good "belligerent sexual tension." relationship! 😍❤️🔥
I just realized this is where I got my love for the Enemies x Lovers trope.
I remember loving this evil couple as a kid. I recorded the finale of TDWT for the sole purpose of watching to see which one would win & how. I like how you broke down their MOs so effectively.
I wish they had been done differently in All Stars. They could have been the perfect evil power couple. I get a wicked rush imagining how horribly effective they could’ve been. Alejandro could plan out & play the long game, while Courtney could keep them alive in the day to day. 😈
i always found it bizarre seeing a media that has a romance, have a couple that is frustrating start to end that has the attention of the show but also have that *one* couple that saves the audience to immediately leave due of the drama.
12:05
This explains everybody and Heather's relationship in Season 3 perfectly
Antagonists deserve love to!
4:11 Ok, so this is actually kind of said in the show by Harold in the special before Action with him guessing why Heather is the way she is one of his guesses that she was fat once. Granted the show itself never confirmed it was true, but I guess Harold guessed it.
I think Heather and Alejandro really cushioned the blow of the love triangle in World Tour. While Duncan, Courtney, and Gwen were in flames I at least had the toxic couple to follow and keep me interested. I gotta give the writers credit for making Heather of all people the person people were routing for and wanting to win.
So happy they're finally getting attention!! Seriously the most underrated ship in total drama and cartoons in general
For real. Villains falling in love.
Heather and Alejandro make a better couple than any trainwreck relationship that Gwen and Duncan have ever been in 😂
from the moment the last TD video came out I was waiting for this one. They're the reason World Tour is the best season. Also, love that you used his last name
Great timing considering we were robbed of a deliciously evil villain couple in Disney's Wish
Could Wish have really outdone these two?
What did we do to deserve all this Total Drama content??? Loving the videos! If you’re going over all the train wreck couples, I’d like to hear your thoughts on Mike and Zoe! That is, if there’s even enough to talk about lol.
For better or worse a lot of their coverage has to cover the way Mike's DID is handled and while it's serviceable in their first season the following one leads to a lot of... iffy stuff esp in regards to their relationship writing wise. Charming in S4, a bit of a clusterfuck in S5
@@MrWanton16 Yeah I honestly like them in Revenge, they can be cute. All Stars though, like with most things, does some really odd stuff with them.
i watched tdi as a teen and didnt know about alejandro until recently when my bf and i checked out the show again, and man i was hooked immediately. heather was always my fav and i love villain couples. stuff like aleheather, chuya (chase + wu ya), etc are so peak
HOT TAKE
I prefer it when my ships aren't confirmed because I don't want writers ruining what I believe to be a great potentional couple in theory.
It can sometimes get annoying when a shipper wants there ship to be confirmed so much they don't consider if they'll like how it's executed.
Sometimes ships are better left in fanfiction because once something is cannon its out of a fans control.
Agreed. Been in a few fandoms where the fanfiction is written better than the actual media and it’s cathartic seeing ships and story come together in an actually well written way that isn’t just because.
Yes, I am talking about RWBY primarily. Bumblb is terribly done and bad rep and I don’t care if I get skewered.
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716I remember seeing the scene where they kiss, I thought it was adorable, though can I ask on why this ship doesn't work? never seen RWBY, so I don't have the context
this is exactly the same thing with the Sonic fandom, people wants their ship yet they don't realize what a big deal that would make because majority of the time, your ship being canon, doesn't always end well
@@nicoleflores2054 Team RWBY was supposed to be a sisterhood and the only reason Blake and Yang got together was because a very specific part of the fan base wanted it. And by “wanted it” I mean threw temper tantrums and sent death threats to anyone who didn’t agree. The writer’s caved and started doing their own thing which is unfortunate because Volumes 1-3 are very solid because Monty Oum hadn’t passed at that point and had things he wanted to follow. The current writers have had some moments here and there but the show is just a mess and has been for a while. I just haven’t changed my username because it’d be confusing for all my previous comments.
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 ah shit, it's always death threats that come into the table in shipping stories
so badly i wanna see them come to the reboot like owen and fuck up everything as a duo and then announce that they're engaged before flying away in some creative way
This reminds me of recently with the Scott Pilgrim anime Julie who was the more antogonistic character on the protagonist side finally got with Gideon the most antagonistic character of the whole series and they got together and damn it doesn’t just work it soars
NGL, I shipped them from day 1. Heather and Alejandro were so alike.
The real villain of this series is Chris
For real 😂
He is a bit masochist
Real villain: Chris real main character: ???? It needs a main character not random characters
OH MY GOD I WAS HOPING YOU'D DO A VIDEO ON THEM, I WASN'T EXPECTING IT SO SOON AFTER THE 3 HOUR ONE.... I don't know what we did to deserve this but thank you for your service
TDWT was the most fun season in large part thanks to Alejandro and his complex relationship with Heather.
Well that, and of course the songs!
"So seeing them be the worst is the best time and SH#T I FORGOT ABOUT ALL STARS!" got me 🤣
Thank you for this palate cleanser!! Alejandro and Heather had such an interesting dynamic and it definitely improved both of their characters imo. World Tour is such a great season largely thanks to the two of them running things.
Never forget how Alejandro spent the entirety of the first episode ignoring Tyler and blatantly flirting with his girlfriend, only for Tyler to be the biggest idiot ever all season and supporting Alejandro even after he was voted off by him.
Normally I hate enemy to lovers but this ( along with dipicifica and sometime lumity) was the exception.
Goooood am I glad to see you make a video on these two. They gotta be one of my favorite fictional couples of all time. I love the shit out of Aleheather, I have some of their dialogues memorized to the letter because I've loved to watch Aleheather Moment compilations on CZcams since I was in middle school. And I love the way you break down fictional relationships, whether they're healthy couples, or trainwrecks. And right after watching your Total Drama Love Triangle video (which I also loved!!) I really wanted to see you talk about Aleheather, and cleanse your palette with what's gotta be the best Total Drama relationship in my eyes.
They are the Justinian and Theodora of cartoon relationships.
S-tier reference.👌
And just as badass
LFG!!!!!!! Watching Total Drama as a kid is probably the reason why I loved the enemies to lovers trope so much for so long. Sarcastic Chorus, you have made my Saturday 2 weeks in a row. (probably more but def these past two weeks)
I think we all wanted them to be evil together in All Stars,but that's what fanfiction is for. :)
Normal couples: "i luv u bbg" "i luv u 2"
Villain couples: "die" "uno reverse"
they were so fun to watch and also so fun to hate. Even tho they were terrible people, they still very entertaining to watch, even in all stars they were good (maybe the only good thing in that awful season) Ughhh I love them sm, as a couple and invidually as characters
i'm loving your total drama videos, please never stop making them
I want them to get married & have a child that is super ironic in how genuinely nice they are compared to their parents 😄
Alejandro is honestly my favourite character
There is always something amazing about villain couples.
Love triangle is the ship, that WT haters are bringing up
Aleheather is the ship, that WT lovers are bringing up
I Love how much of an Interesting Dynamic Heather and Alejandro they had.
These Two Contradicting/Conflicting Forces made Me feel Fascinated about how they Balance Each Other out, and yet how Toxic their Behaviours are to One Another, And when Alejandro gets Hit at the Dick by Heather and getting His Comeuppance for being a Selfish
Heart-Breaking JerkArse I Felt Satisfied, And also Heather Becomes a Better Person Later on TD.
But UnFortunately; They Rehashed the SAME Dynamic!
That Ruins it Now that I Think about it!
Word of Advice to the Writers; NEVER Rehash the SAME SHIT you've Done before!
EDIT: Never mind.
These two are part of the reason I still have hope for Shiping in Total Drama. Sure they're not perfectly healthy. But at least they're not a train wreck like Gwen & Trent, and Courtney & Duncan. (Even if I still love Courtney and Duncan together I can still admit they were a wreck)
I love these two. Thank you for covering them.
I love your breakdowns, your choice of words never fails to crack me up!
I love this couple, they are so much fun.
By far the best shipp of the series, great analysis of them!
Now give us a video about Raj and Bowie from the reboot, please!
One thing I absolutely love about Total Drama is the multiple endings. While Heather winning in World Tour is my headcanon, I'm absolutely fine with Alejandro winning. Admittedly tho', the first time I watched its finale I was rooting for Cody.
this is probably the 5th time I see this video, i really like it
now its probs the 8th
"I hate you."
"I feel exactly the same~"
How I talk to the people I love. Only I don't have that hot Alejandro voice. Loved watching these two together.
In her video log, Heather's parents were shown throwing a party in her absence as movers removed Heather's belongings from the house 😢
I did not expect a bunch of total drama content from you but I am lovin it
it's very weird to me how big the italian Total Drama community is, very few animated shows, if any, are that popular in Italy, to the point that various seasons aired in Italy before airing in the US, the second season of the reboot already started airing here
@@YTNoodle5 Yes, but that is an Italian show that became popular in the US, Total Drama is a Canadian show that got hugely popular in Italy, and that's pretty weird for Italy, where very few animated show have a big fsnbase
that's SOO true, i'm italian myself and even now i'm flabbergasted about how we gained to air the premiere of the show since TDWT. so strange(i'm the biggest fan of the series myself)
THIS IS THE BEST COUPLE EVER THANK YOU SO MUCH