The TRUTH About Active Recall and Spaced Repetition NO ONE Talks About
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Many of you have come to us asking why your grades are not improving. You've been using RemNote consistently, you've committed your time and efforts to active recall and spaced repetition, yet still not seeing results. And now your flashcards are building up and you feel very behind. So we had to get to the bottom of this and figure out what was happening. And many interviews later, we've identified the root of the problem. In this video, we will cover the problem with active recall and spaced repetition, and we will also give you actionable steps that you can take to get yourself back on track.
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- Mike and Matty
00:00 Introduction
1:04 Your journey
2:23 the Mike and Matty Map
4:50 Next Steps
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This is SO TRUE - in med school, I once made the mistake of making too many flashcards to memorise facts, apart from the basics that must be memorised. Asking questions, understanding underlying concepts, and trying to explain as if to a 5-year-old or in front of others - that COMBINED with active recall is how I managed to get better at recalling AND understanding info
Yup the full stack student pack
For sure
My study technique in med school :
1st view : attending the lecture or reading the lecture thoroughly, googling want I don't understand and making little notes or drawings on the pages to understand it better.
2nd view : reading it for a second time but now instead on focusing on understanding every sentence I try to understand the big picture. On a piece of paper I make schemas or plans to try to understand how everything is connected. I add to that piece of paper the stuff I find difficult to memorize/understand fully, and lists that I need to find a mnemonic trick for. I end up reading some past tests to see what's going to be asked from us and if something isn't already in my draft, I add it
3rd view : i take the draft from last session + the lesson and I make flashcards of these
Usually I do each view on a week so 3 weeks after the start of the semester I start having flashcards.
Then everytime I'm losing time (public transportation, waiting for a meeting) I do those flashcards.
Before exams :
I start with doing a session of past exams the way it would be on the big day.
Then I reread every lecture (from the one I didn't know well to the one I did know well)
Again exam type questions
Rereading those I didn't know well and finding ways to fully memorize or understand them (making lists, drawings, mnemonic tricks, anything that works)
Love this, youâve just described the Mike and Matty map in detail lol
Wow! Thatâs the solution
Is it re-reading
@@jason2b29 rereading what ?
@@e.t9403 your 2nd view
Congrats on 200k guys! I love that someone finally talked about this topic in this way. Great video!
Thanks man, the grind is constant lol
Justin Sung has been talking about this for a long time...
@@TedMarq lmao ikr but problem is his videos are all over 20 minutes making audience wanna not click on them while Mike and Matty have them under 10 minutes most of the time.
this video couldnât be uploaded at a better time !!! needed this so much, thank you!
Ngl you guys are the first ever to explain how to use understanding and remembering with your previous videos with your 12 tips and honestly, I appreciate your videos being straight to the point and not bantering
yâall⊠the video editing is top tier. i shed one (1) tear for every well-placed sound effect
Thanks for appreciating the little things that take forever lol
That was a really insightful video. Thank you.
Well, active recall and spaced repetition works in subjects such as History, Biology and Chemistry ( subjects that mostly need memorization ) but it will not work in Physics where understanding to the fundamentals is everything.
What can we do for Physics then? Because I've never used active recall and I've just started experimenting with high school physics.
@Xavier Dutton I'm doing IB physics HL in Kenya
Active recall in biology and chemistry only works for isolated facts, they're so content heavy that if you were to solely rely on active recall and spaced repetition you'd be overwhelmed with flash cards or however you choose to actively recall. Understanding is needed in those 2 subjects as well so that you don't need to memorise as much stuff
@Xavier Dutton Yes there is a lot of understanding required but I am talking about memorization or the facts. You can't solely rely on active recall first you need to understand the information.
@@Raphael_.- I mean biology has A LOT of facts that can be memorised with anki really well. And the way I study(biology student here) subjects like biology, biotechnology, microbiology is that I just make anki cards regularly and do them and then when I finish my exam I archive them so I don't have to go through it anymore because those won't be on my next exam anymore. That way I avoid having thousands of cards to do per day. I think anki is a great tool to memorize especially for those who have a problem with memory, but it is a committment doing them every day.
Understanding comes first before remembering, that goes without saying, and without giving it a gimmicky marketing name! I don't understand the urge to make everything granular, that ultimately leads to loosing big, simple and important concept, i.e. "understanding" in this case. Understand however you want!!!
Another important thing is to separate active recall from flash cards (anki, remnotes,etc). Those are just a subtype of active recall techniques. Failure to understand this and sticking with anki/remnote without having an aptitude or personal desire to study that way, will lead to frustration.
I understand well, use active recall and spaced repetition, but I don't use anki or remnote or any other flashcards. I use teaching (to self or others) as an active recall technique to hone my understanding and memory. Some people, who have done exceptionally well on standardised exams, practice active recall and testing their understanding of the subject, by exclusively doing practice questions.
Bottomline: Flashcards (anki, remnotes) are NOT THE answer to all your learning woes. Understand the topic/concept first and try to memorise it by whichever technique you are comfortable with.
Agree totally!!!
Damm guys the editing has been taken to a whole new level. Impressed!đ
My take away is to have a combination of study strategies. Remnote works for me though i need more practice and more studying. Great video by the way. đđđ
Great tips, Very thankful for your help đđŸ
Thank u so much for this amazing video, u know what colleges that need high marks especially we( med students) we think weâre the smartest and the best at studying but we have to admit the fact that our studying technique that worked for high school will suck for college and that we canât even differentiate between understanding and remembering . We really have to admit that fact we also need help to learn how to study and ask for help and find amazing videos like this.
Thank u guys so much
FINALLY, SOMEONE MADE A VIDEO. They are NOT the end-all, be-all study techniques. I have been trying to tell people this for years while they all struggle in medical school. I've been telling them they're in an echo chamber with all these "influencers" telling them they'll solve all their problems. Each one is making yet another video on the same thing. No one is being creative or unique, just rehashing the same things they've seen someone else talk about. How many of them even read the research on "spaced repetition" and "active recall?" Or did they all just post article titles and say, see-- research, it exists. All the advice revolves around Anki and other flashcard apps. The problem is it's random. None of that forms a complete story or provides enough detail. I kept telling people they were wasting their time putting so much into finishing their billion flashcards a day. They ended up failing and had to repeat the year! Likewise, the "just do more questions advice" that people give an example of "active learning," is also terrible. You have to know when to use it. Learning from doing questions is so highly ineffective. Questions are designed to test understanding and show that you don't know something. These aren't questions you think about that propels you forward in your learning as you look for the answer, they are test formated questions. You need to understand the topic first and then test on that subject. One issue is nothing provides you with these check-understanding types of questions. It's always random and can never be tailored to the topic someone is learning. You go onto UWorld, and you can only apply so many filters. It's inefficient to test you on specific issues. If you study heart failure, you then need questions on heart failure, and only then do you make flashcards to help reinforce the learned material. Acquire general working knowledge > Check understanding > Reinforce learned material.
As always, very informative video.Keep it upđ.
Honestly, this is SO TRUE. I made this mistake for the past 2 years and thinking that I actually retained the information.... But i kept forgetting it.
My study technique is all about mind-mapping to understand relationships, and how everything fits into "the bigger picture", before I then use active recall to remember definitions, names etc
RemNote is awesome for chunking (prior to mind map) & the 20% or so that needs to be rote learnt!
This is exactly the video I needed THANKS!
Glad you made this video!!
So it's just bout learning , understanding and applying ..that's it .. information stays in brain forever ..thanks guys always helpfulđđ
so, does that mean if we understand the concept, we don't need to make a flashcard for it..? is that right ?
@@byersvhs If you want to revisit the information you can make it for easy reference
@@byersvhs U should use flashcards for stuff that needs to be remembered
Good stuff thanks
Finally someone talked about it! Great video.
Are you from Bangladesh?
@@leavemealoneplease652 yes.
I agree with this video so much. It also doesnât help that school doesnât really help us on that regard. In my opinion, there are 4 main facets of school:
1) some form of morality
2) providing information
3) teaching us how to learn/study
4) teaching us how to apply
Most schools, in my opinion fail some of 2 and the entirety of 3&4. If the whole point of school is to help students to learn how to apply knowledge, why rely on memory. I would bet my life that every student has experience where youâre doing a test or exam with a question that they knew how to perfectly explain minus a simple detail. If in the workplace, people are able to consult with supervisors or the internet, why doesnât school at least try to evolve so to speak. For calculation-heavy subjects, iâm sure most students would prefer slightly harder questions if it meant they werenât struggling to remember so many formulas. For like more wordy subjects, even so much as a list of simple definitions would help eg. I do economics and letâs say I forgot how the PED(Price Elasticity of Demand) is to be applied. If the definition of elasticity was given âthe responsiveness of the percentage change of one factor to anotherâs percentage changeâ, it would greatly increase the chances of me being able to apply it to the question given.
Sorry for the rant guys, Great videođ„đ„
Very good videođ, will help me a lot and btw Exams starting from next week(wish me luck), and a video Idea- can You make Subject Specific videos? I mean Science and Maths have their own ways of study but what about Languages and how to approach them, ICT(Computer) and etc.
I think I'm obsessed with this channelđ
Currently , my exams are going on and bros , Your every single study tip makes me want to learn everything even if i hate it(math) or i love it(bio) đ And after my exams will over , i will play Minecraft, and play piano, because i have completed almost 80% of my syllabus for second exam , because of your tips đ„!!!!!!!! Ahhh!! â€ïž
Thank u soo much bros!!!
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Well deserved holiday season for you, keep up the hard work and good luck!
I felt so smart when I correctly predicted the reason why active recall and spaced repetition is not enough. You also need to understand the concepts. If you donât understand the concepts then youâre not gonna do well on most of the critical thinking questions that are on the exam, in college that is. In high school you can get away with just memorizing the details
This is so true, especially so for me. Iâm a social sciences student and memorising facts are important only if they serve to answer a question, and that requires understanding to conduct critical thinking. Iâve decided to move away from remnote to plain old world as a result as it makes me focus on memorising rather than making connections.
After I get a flashcard wrong I move past it and then try to write it down from memory on a whiteboard which improves my ablity to retain it very well, I use that to make up for the fact that I'm not physically writing what I'm learning
This deserves way more views like wayyyyyyyyyy more
Active recall is just one aspect of learning⊠retrieval( I suppose remembering, but this simplifies the process too much).
To truly learn well, you should instead focus on encoding, the process of building long term memory storage of short term memory chunks.
If this information is encoded well, it will be easier to retrieve, and you can enforce the memory with spaced repetition by actively recalling it⊠not read reading your notes.
Reading something youâve seen before induces a feeling of familiarity, which can create an illusion of competence and mastery. Flash cards place information into your working memory first, so this is not a very effective learning technique, but the repetition works for some people. This flash card technique is called over-learning. Again itâs mostly helpful for reinforcing information that is already in LMT, or rather information that has reached LMT.
ayy another youtube channel (dr. jusin sung) also talks about similar concepts and implementation! Glad to see more youtubers talking about thia
This is very informative
Some of my flashcards are just topic words which helps with my understanding because I have to explain itđ
This is exactly what I needed! Thank you so much Mike and Matty :)
You got it
Hey @Mike and Matty! Just finished binge-watching your ENTIRE CHANNEL. When are you going to make Green Tea vs Coffee Video? Would be grateful if you could make that sooner :)
Wow so glad you found us, lots more videos to come! They both have health benefits so pick your drink based on how much caffeine you want (coffee has more), or you can drink both as well, but will eventually address in more detail!
What I've realised for me is, while studying my degree now active recall works great for remembering for me, but never to understand, so how do I understand? Watch CZcams videos of the specific point, everything is on CZcams, what I've seen so far anyway and im studying computer science.
I listened to his video whilst drinking coffee and let out an audible "true" in agreement
What a vibe
Gotta incorporate all sorts of ideas Mike and Matty gives đ€
justin sung is gonna love you now
Omg so excited for the Remnote app đđđđ
curve is flattened through feynman technique. active processing > passive processing
The Mike & Matty Map is great but I have 1 question.. can I use the map to learn new language? If yes can you make a video explaining it
The last concept you mentioned about flattening the forgetting curve- you pointed to a link in the upper right and it never appeared. Can you please direct me. Thanks.
Can someone help me, i have 12 subjects and im having hard time managing my time cuz im done school at 16.00 anf then having 8 exams in a week and lately i have got kinda much bad marks and its overwhelming so idk what i should do
this video completly true very true so true this is the true thank your very much
Will you guys ever add a drawing system on Remnote? :00 (Apologies if that sounds rude)
Is it possible together remnote on iOS?
Hi!
Im currently in 9th grade, I just found out that grades/scores in 9th grade until 12th grade are needed in universities. So, Im not that type of a person that study hard and im super lazyyy and im just an average student even when i was in elementary. Too smart to be dumb but too dumb to be smart. So when i heard that news that grades are needed for universities i was shocked and said to my self "i need to study hard now". People say 9th grade is the best to start building your study habits.
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Just like what i said earlier, im not smart and im lazy to study. it means im back to zero and i want to build it up again this year so that i can be prepared in the future.
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can you guys help me, what should i improve? what kind of study habits i need to do? study techniques? also recommend some books that i can read in my free time.
im back to zero so im asking u guys if u can just reply anything that answers my questions.
thankyou!
I am wondering can we use multiple picture to make a single flashcard
Flashcards overdue: IT'S OVER 9000!!
Hey, whoever is reading this...please help me with your ideas on this problem :-
Topic - In spaced repetition
Subject - the problem with me is not that I don't recall anything...I do, but I don't recall all!
but that is not the main issue -
issue is say in a topic there are 15points
now the points which I am not able to recall in 1st repetition
I won't remember them in the 2nd one either
and same points I won't remember in 3rd either
ex. I was not able to get 3rd nd 5th point
therefore I won't get them in subsequent revision as well
This also happens with certain topics (as whole)
I won't recall that entire topic in any revision
ex. of thinkers or quotes or historians or any such overly factual
What to do in such scenario, how to beat this issue and recall all, If not all than atleast 90-95% of all...
as 3-4 points in each topic is too much gone in 300-400 topics.
Please do share what you do, thanks a lot for yout time!
I used to make a lot of flash cards. I just gave up on it because I just dislike making flash cards and memorized things in my mind instead, but I have a pretty good memory. When I forget something when studying, I try to memorize it again. It is kind of space repetition without the flash cards.
Lol I was about to go though my 1000+ flash cards (of biology, inorganic chemistry, chemistry) when I saw the thumbnail
understanding information before memorizing it
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Hey dude am from india in our exam only memorizing no understanding like they ask which national park in which state đ€ so i need 100 fact card for that one qn such way there is much topic you cant know other additional or time to understand coz there is huge to study what time set is best to put them in after 3 days i never forget its easy with spaced repetition but for first day how to mug up i put 1m 2m 4m 8m 16m such way atleast 30 time i take one card and it eats somuvh time what to do
Idea for a new video: How to study online efficiently and not watch CZcams or go through Facebook while the teacher/pros is talking about stuff.
Sounds good, concentration is important and distractions arenât easy
People already know what to do . They just donât do it. Going about looking for someone repeating what you already know without doing is pointless. Everyone knows how to tackle this issue, if they have made it to college, they should at least be smart enough to know that they have to be focused and disciplined. If it takes deleting the apps that make you distracted, then so be it. We all know that .đŹ
Actually you need to memorise the basics first. For instance, we all memorise abcdef.... there is no meaning to them. So in the same way, new terminologies must be memorised. For instance, the word kinematics in physics needs to be memorised. But an easier way to remember is to associate kinematics with commonly used words that one already know. I am already familiar with motion and study and link kinematics with study and motion. Now I associate kinematics with the study of motion. To further deepen my understanding of kinematics, I extend the study of motion with speed, velocity, distance, displacement, acceleration. By establishing more words to kinematics, I have further deepen my knowledge about kinematics.
I think learning is like a tree. You need to figure out how to branch out your knowledge. Recalling and using knowledge is like nourishing that knowledge so that it remains energised. If we stop using certain knowledge in our brain, they will weaken with time and ultimately be completely forgotten.
"the info comes out during tests-" ahahaha it sure does! :'D
I'm not even halfway through and I just want to take a moment to say this guy is literally exposing me â ïž
Did I miss something? How did you go from 60K to 203K so fast?
Blink and youâll miss it like we did
so, does that mean if we understand the concept, we don't need to make a flashcard for it..? is that right ?
Less flashcards the better
I like the CZcams channel studyquill...
I love the idea behind the app and really want to use it, but image occlusion is just too important to give up. The cost really don't seem to outweigh the benefits of switching from anki to this app. Anki is free but to get the same functionality we have to pay every month?
Can anybody explain how to actually make flash cards? I'm new here and have no bloody idea what to put on them
Check this video out: 10 steps to making exceptional flashcards
czcams.com/video/rk-32B1AzfU/video.html
@@KoiAcademy Oh thank youuuđ€â€ïž
my active recall is TERRIBLE lol
Second. Love from India đđđ
Much love
I watched the video to end up with promoting his course.. like come on!!!
He's just publishing his course amazing marketing strategy
We need Remnote iOS!!!
Still waiting for the ios version
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Im one of those students who has 9000 flash cards
Welcome to the club lol
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lesson imported
The often-seen attempts to arouse curiosity in order to generate the next click seem dishonest and manipulative.
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Loool the Problem is the Hype created by CZcamsrs... yeah and you did the exact same thing, look at your videos of the last year(s) đ đ
I am third
I used to love your content. But I feel like youâre getting too commercial. Iâll still watch your vids cz theyâre dope. But just give us the info instead of making sure you get more subs and views
Appreciate the feedback
Have to be first !
And i am!
hmmmm...gud job.. i guess?đ
@@tomususan No one cares that you're the first to comment, do you want a cookie or something?
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Yes, I did well! Thanks đ
I am cutting back on sugar, no thanks đ
Active recall is frankly boring.
You simply COPY & PASTE everything Justin Sung says in his videos. The exact thing , the exact way.
Be creative a lil bit ..
when will you guys stop copyin justin sung?
I just now completed justin sung's video on :the truth behind acitve recall and spaced repetition and now i am here!
@cajun koi academy
@justin sung