Will Florida State & Clemson ESCAPE the ACC This Summer?!
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- In this college football video about the ACC vs. Florida State Seminoles & Clemson Tigers, Couz is joined by T.J. Pittinger from @CFBAddiction to discuss conference realignment and specifically, why T.J. thinks the Seminoles and Tigers could potentially announce their departure from the ACC sooner than people think. Could it happen this summer? T.J. answers that question.
They will also discuss where FSU and Clemson will likely end up if and when they do leave the league. Do they both go to the SEC? Does FSU go to the Big Ten?
T.J. & Couz will talk about the ongoing court cases between the ACC and Florida State, as well as ACC vs. Clemson and how T.J. thinks those ultimately end up. #conferencerealignment #floridastate #clemsonfootball #accfootball
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Great show Couz TY TJ for coming on and your input
FSU is going to The B1G
Another great show 🏈🏀💥 always good content and guests let's go mountaineers.
IMO June 30th date for FSU & Clemson settling with the ACC leaving is more about the remaining 12 schools splitting the payouts before Calford & SMU joining and having to share with 3 more schools. IMO the key to ACC survival and ESPN renewing the media deal at the same or lower per school number . is if UNC leaves or not. If UNC doesn’t sue to leave. the conference will stay intact with remaining schools and ESPN would renew the contract. ESPN would kick in maybe $20M extra year to UNC to stay in the ACC and keep the UNC vs Duke BB rivalry. The other schools would probably end up getting $20-$25M a year in a new contract. IMO FSU & Clemson will end up each paying $150M each to leave. At that exit fee level, besides FSU & Clemson the only schools who could have a P2 landing spot IMO are UNC & Miami. I don’t see FSU & Clemson leaving until June 30th 2025. Now way they leave this year.
Love the thumbnail, write down spooky looking if you ask me great video keep up the good work Couz.🏈🏀💥
Thank you.
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Thanks HCG.
Great discussion.
if the poop hits the fan ACC definitely should reach out to WSU, OSU, AF, Army, Navy.
Yep, the Service Academies do get overlooked a lot. Their media numbers are pretty good. Certainly Navy and Army's are good. AF is respectable.
App State would be cool, too.
Good show Couz .
Thanks
I don’t see UNC leaving the ACC without NC State. And if both of those schools go then I think Duke will leave also.
We borrow it. Its a business, treat it like a business. Big 12 is a business that can borrow money from private equity.
Private equity may be the only way to make it work. Bringing that into college sports makes me nervous, but I know it’s going to happen eventually.
Couze. You and Pittinger just amaze me. You both were taking about the ACC ceasing to be a football conference and refocusing on basketball. Then you started naming potential additions. You mentioned Tulane, ECU, etc. Neither one of you mentioned UCONN! They just won back to back national championships and you don’t think they will be a priority backfill if the ACC prioritizes basketball?? And you guys are crazy. Hell will freeze over before Duke ends up in the Big 12. And Pittinger talks out both sides of his mouth. At one point he says why would schools like Pitt want to go to the Big 12. Would it really be any better than a reconstituted ACC? And then he mentioned later on that Pitt, Louisville, etc will in fact move to the Big 12. The first backfill will be USF followed by UCONN. ESPN wants them back.
Those ACC teams who voted to keep this water down conference afloat, should have thought of what happens when the Noles/Clemson for sure depart. If North Carolina gets their big boy pants out of the closet and step up to the plate, its a wrap for the incompetent ACC.
It wasn’t meant to be disrespectful. Just an oversight.
Don’t sweat it Couze. You’re a really good guy. I just wanted to point out that UCONN will be considered.
@@simsim352I agree with you to some extent. I still think the ACC backfills more both on the East Coast and Gulf Coast and West Coast and retaining Autonomy Status much to the dismay of the bitter bitches; who were rejected and dejected and denied by the ACC in the Big12 8 members seeking refuge in their storms.
The Big12 people will point out that the additional schools that the ACC adds; after the departure of 2-6 schools over a period of years to come, were on the Big12 16-team finalists who were additives and potential candidates for admission to the Big12.
The ACC and the networks involved with the ACC now (and any other networks in the future) can quickly point out the Big12 could have added a few of these schools and got revenue for the adds. But hypocrisy and doublespeak about the status and standards (which we all know are laughable) and doublethink about pausing and passing on said schools are nobody else fault but their own.
My points are that the ACC will not dissolve like the PAC, will not lose Autonomy, will prevent any reorganization of a PAC that will include the return of Stanford and Cal along with some ACC castoffs, will get equal money value for adds to the ACC, and the future media revenue will be as close to the same as Big12 deal starting in 2025 for them; but clearly be behind the Big12 in A4 status.
The reason I say no rebuilding of some kind of PAC is because WazzU and OzzU will be added to the Western side along with San Diego State and at least Air Force and one other prominent prestigious academic MWC school that is also good in sports. I see up to (if including Army and Navy) 6 schools from the AAC eventually added. At least 2 if not more from the SBC added to the ACC in the future to keep athletics and academic success going and prioritize in the ACC. And lastly UCONN and maybe even a couple of CUSA or a MAC school added. I think a good bulk of this happens but obviously not all of it.
I think some petty former Big East schools like BC etc will always vote against UCONN and WV because they sued em. BC famously said they just vote for whoever ESPN tells them to😮
Definitely cannot convince me that UCONN or WV would not had been a greater add than Louisville, Syracuse, or Pittsburgh. Personally as a Nole I think ESPN blacklisted those schools for suing the ACC/ESPN for the Big East raid
Couz my bro, big 12 finances 150 million buyout for top 6 acc schools. Miami, fsu, clemson, unc, louisville, pitt, for example. Then locks them in with a 20 year payback out of there conference fees. Then do new deal with tv partners. Would that put us on par with sec and big 10? If it does, it would be no problem too get those acc schools too agree and join. Its all about money anyway, right? As my daddy always said, u gotta spend money too make money!
Where does the $150 million each come from? That would put the existing Big 12 schools even further behind.
Yeah, good luck with all that.
June 30th might be too soon. And I don’t see the schools voting to end the ACC with all the legal issues. It would be very messy.
Can you guys say 2 super conferences the SEC and Big Ten first the PAC 12 dissolved next will be the ACC then the Big 12
If Clemson and FSU announce before the June 30th does that matter cause they would still be in conference. Can’t make a make a new schedule now
Good point.
They have to announce by June 30th to be put the following year. This year they would have to play in the ACC but it would be there last year tho
They already backfilled last summer. They’re at 18 now. If the ACC loses 4, they will stay at 14. Or maybe add WSU/OrSt to help Stanford and Cal and stay at 16. More G5’s don’t add anything. Cal, Stanford are already getting half and SMU nothing.
Highly unlikely. The court case will probably drag on for at least a couple of years.
Past Feb 2025? When ESPN has to decide if they’re going to extend with the ACC? Zero chance
@@jcfilms4433If the court case does drag on that long, ESPN is out. They aren't going to re-up while the case is still pending.
Definitely not gonna drag on for years once Discovery start in Florida. Espn will force ACC to settle the case. ESPN lawyers were at the NC case because they feel like they can win there. In Florida they didn't even show up because they didn't trying to fight that material that comes out when Discovery start
Couz been talking this noise for years. Fs and Clemson has not found a way out yet. Once they pay the cost then they can leave. The ACC will be fine without fs and clemson. Tj is a fs fan and want out but he can say what he want. The GOR'S stands and no one has found a way out, thats why we still talking about it. ACC don't need fs or clemson, Acc just need to win. Espn hold the contract and could rip it up or pay more money to each school. The whole argument is about more money.
There is too much bad blood between Florida/Disney/ESPN.
The Florida government is a joke. The rest of the country is on Disney's side! The rest of the country is telling ESPN To go to hell. Just like the Florida government!!!!!!
Lets get serious. This would be a power move that would put us on par with thee big 2. Now we would be the big 3!!
Easiest question I have seen in awhile. The short answer is NO. The case in Florida will not even get sorta serious till August based on the Judge in that case.
TJ that recent bit with Drake Toll was obnoxious. That kid can be a real punk. You are like a difficult person with Couz. Id avoud Drake in the future.
You lost all credibility when you brought TJ on. He lost all his FSU sources when he started reporting fake news.
It’s just an opinion. Relax.
And it’s not even my opinion. It’s his.
FSU & CLEMSON move the needle and will be in the SEC
I think FSU going to the Big Ten. Espn has screwed them over a few times already
Like I've said, they can leave the ACC. Leaving the ESPN is a different matter. Look at Texas and Oklahoma. They went from the Big 12 to the SEC. both conferences have ESPN deals. The Big 10 doesn't have an ESPN deal. Besides it is not the Big 10 or Big 12 jobs to save FSU from joining the SEC because their legendary coach Bobby Bowden was afraid of joining.
Bobby Bowden wasn't scared of the SEC. FSU was beating up SEC schools for years before the ACC & SEC invites: Auburn, Georgia, LSU, etc. FSU played UF every single year since 1958. Bobby Bowden didn't choose conferences. The ACC offered more and helped FSU get better in more than just football.
Don't talk about things you don't understand.
@@encycl07pedia- Agreed. Bobby Bowden built his program playing the big boys, agreeing to go to their place and no return game to FSU's stadium back then. The idea he was afraid of playing anyone is ridiculous to anyone who has been watching college football since the 70's.
@@encycl07pedia- that’s delusional revisionist history. It’s also present self delusion. It’s not the same to play a few teams out of the conference every year as it is to play 8-9 teams out of the conference every year.
@@jamesrawson241 lol. No, it's not. Head coaches don't choose conferences. That's done by administrators. FSU tried to join the SEC every year in the late 1950s and 1960s. Every year. If you think FSU was scared, think again.
Yeah, the massive amounts of mediocre or worse SEC teams are so scary. 2016 FSU spotted Ole Miss a 22-point lead and still won the game... by 11. FSU beat two LSU teams that were ranked in the Top 10 at one point or another the past two years (LSU was a dark horse CFI candidate in 2022 before TAMU beat them and started the year in the Top 10 in 2023).
All that stuff you're saying is projection.