Hi doing a 2009 207 no marks on the camshafts at all so just get the pin into the flywheel. This car was parked up for 5 minutes then failed to start again this was about 9 months ago did a compression test about 80 psi so bought a kit to check if the cam timing has moved
Hi richard sawyer . I got a 207 1.4 from 2007 . The car has no power after driven a couple km, and the motor makes more noise . The fault code p11a8 . My mechanic says that the problem is the chain . Can u give me advise in this Tnxs
Hi, well I've fitted a new chain kit the whole lot except the Vanos pulleys, timed up and running alot better but still codes p0014 and P11A8 (both exhust cam codes) I've changed the solenoids,. And re-checked timing after a good run - it's on. I'm stumped now. Any ideas? Was thinking vanos pulley and the cam oil seals behind it. Other than that what else is there? Thanks.
Hi,I have a huge problem and no one cant find what is the matter..I have P0016 and the mecanic had lined up the pistons as you did and the camshafts have the marking facing up but I didn't seen him verifying anything under the car as you did. Can you please explain in more detail what have you locked under the car and why is important to do that? I have a Peugeot 308 cc 1.6 thp 150 hp and the car runs as if it has max 80 horse power and it doesnt make pressure enough into the turbo.The only error I have :P0016.Please advise.Thank you!
Hi. The timing pin location for the crankshaft is under the car by the exhaust and bel housing. This has to be inserted to ensure exact position of the posting. Other wise possible fault codes may occur when running ( coherence faults) Hope this helps. Cheers
Hiya, out of interest, what was the reason for the timing being out on this car? Did you not consider chain stretch? Can you help me as I have exactly the same fault code P11A8 (1.6 Prince 2008 16v 2 x VVT's) plus occasional chain grating noise 2000-3000 rpm and worse when at full temp which immediately goes when engine is restarted. So I've just took off the rocker cover to find the top chain guide completely worn away metal and all! Plus the inlet dephaser pully moves when chain pressed down between pulleys ( engine static obviously) and I've been told it should not.l it should be locked by a pin. Any help would be really appreciated, Thanks, David.
The chain should be tight and under tension at all time with the self adjustment. Top chain guide seems to be a common issue with this type of engine. Once replaced and time up , it will run a treat.
@@r.sgreasemonkey8876 Thanks Richard for taking the time to reply, much appreciated. I've got a new top guide to fit, I'm hoping simply fitting that will pull the timing back into correlation!? So many of these top guides have sold on ebay and it's the only part of the chain kit that you can buy on its own (that I've seen anyway) which says alot as to the common issue with it like you say. Best wishes, Thanks again, David
No. As it's not an issue when servicing is kept up to date with the right oil grade. The vvt' s become the issue. Chains are known to wear and stretch on all chain drive engines.
@@r.sgreasemonkey8876 thanks for that. I'm looking at few 2011 manual models. So, I guess I need toake sure the oil was changed every year and that correct grade was used. A little bit of rattle on start is OK? For 20 seconds or so, so the chain gets oiled.
@@londo0 if there us a rattle on start up then walk away. This should not happen. Worn lifters or a chain tensioner fault due to oil pressure. Don't buy it.
Rich...is there any special way to re-install the valvetronic motor on this engine? i had a valve job done and the shop removed it and gave it back with it detached? I cannot find any info on re-installation...thx mate
Richard Sawyer I think what he means is, on the lower inlet camshaft, there is a quadrant gear, the valvetronic motor has a worm drive gear which meshes with the quadrant. What is the position of the quadrant? On every video, I've seen, including yours, the quadrant gear is vertical and I assume it's the resting position, so possibly that's the position that you fit the valvetronic motor/drive gear. I'm rebuilding a mini same engine, and I'd like to know the fitting process of the valvetronic motor please?
I figured it out There is a turnstile inside motor on back Insert I think 4mm Allen and twist in reverse then insert into block and keep backing out until motor is flush then switch to forward motion until it engages the cam and sits at the end of the half circle Cheers hope it helps!!!
maxalwaysgoesbyboat ok! I'm not alone! I'm doing a mini at the moment. It had bent some valves and the inserts had fallen out of the head. I've stripped it and photographed it before I did, but, I dint take good enough photos of the valvetronic motor. I'm sorry for answering the question, but I'd thought that is what you were asking 😊
hi, i have a 2006 citroen c5 2.0 l. When my car warms up it gives the error that the oil pressure is too low while idling. I changed the oil, changed the oil sensor, changed the oil pump. But my problem still persists. Please help me what should I do? When I connect to OBD device, I get P0012 and P0011 errors
It sounds like you've done the hard work. I would suggest fitting a genuine oil filter. Some of the after market filters are not up to the job. Worst scenario an auto electrician look into the wiring (bad earth).
@@alpereno P0012 is a generic fault code that shows the intake camshaft timing on bank 1 is more retarded than what the powertrain control module [ PCM] has commanded it to be. P0012 in Mazda means an over retarded timing. The variable valve timing on the intake camshaft is not adjusting correctly, making the onboard computer register a fault code.
Hie Sir . My mechanic wanted to change the pulley on the crankshaft and he mistakenly opened the crankshaft bolt and the car couldn't start and we realized the timing has been tempered with . Now we are Following this procedure but no special tools , only aligning the cams . Car is starting well but latr on bringing engine light with engine shaking smetymz and error codes some saying camshaft position slow . What might be the issue here
Locking tool is most important. If the timing is slightly out engine lamp will always come on. Coherence codes will be stored in the ecu. Even if your a tooth out. If you are in the UK then vehicle will fail its MOT if registered after march 2003 (petrol engines) Locking the cams will fix issues. Cheers
@@r.sgreasemonkey8876 Changed head gasket and timing chain on 207 couldn’t lock cams as had head rebuilt Managed to lock the fly wheel and locked the cams with a similar kit to what you used in this video car will not start any ideas? somebody said that there’s a 2 degree tolerance for the cam shafts
Usually the variable valve solenoid gets full of metal shavings sometimes you can just clean it out and it’s fine
Hi doing a 2009 207 no marks on the camshafts at all so just get the pin into the flywheel. This car was parked up for 5 minutes then failed to start again this was about 9 months ago did a compression test about 80 psi so bought a kit to check if the cam timing has moved
Nice job 👍
Excellent video! Do you know what size is the torx die for loosen the vvt torx screws?
Could fault codes P1007 and P1014 on Peugeot 207, 2007 require this. It apparently refers to variable valve lifter sensor something.
thanks for this
Hi richard sawyer .
I got a 207 1.4 from 2007 .
The car has no
power after driven a couple km, and the motor makes more noise .
The fault code p11a8 .
My mechanic says that the problem is the chain .
Can u give me advise in this
Tnxs
What torque did you use to timing chain upper guide rail bolts?
Hi, when I go to insert my crank locking pin, I notice theres 3 holes very close to one another? Will the tool only fit 1 of these holes? Thankyou
Non of them 180 degs out. Single one oñ it's own. All piston half way down.
Hi, well I've fitted a new chain kit the whole lot except the Vanos pulleys, timed up and running alot better but still codes p0014 and P11A8 (both exhust cam codes) I've changed the solenoids,. And re-checked timing after a good run - it's on. I'm stumped now. Any ideas? Was thinking vanos pulley and the cam oil seals behind it. Other than that what else is there? Thanks.
You’ll need to change the vanos system. Replace both sprockets will sort out your issues
Hi,I have a huge problem and no one cant find what is the matter..I have P0016 and the mecanic had lined up the pistons as you did and the camshafts have the marking facing up but I didn't seen him verifying anything under the car as you did. Can you please explain in more detail what have you locked under the car and why is important to do that? I have a Peugeot 308 cc 1.6 thp 150 hp and the car runs as if it has max 80 horse power and it doesnt make pressure enough into the turbo.The only error I have :P0016.Please advise.Thank you!
Hi. The timing pin location for the crankshaft is under the car by the exhaust and bel housing. This has to be inserted to ensure exact position of the posting. Other wise possible fault codes may occur when running ( coherence faults)
Hope this helps. Cheers
Hiya, out of interest, what was the reason for the timing being out on this car? Did you not consider chain stretch? Can you help me as I have exactly the same fault code P11A8 (1.6 Prince 2008 16v 2 x VVT's) plus occasional chain grating noise 2000-3000 rpm and worse when at full temp which immediately goes when engine is restarted. So I've just took off the rocker cover to find the top chain guide completely worn away metal and all! Plus the inlet dephaser pully moves when chain pressed down between pulleys ( engine static obviously) and I've been told it should not.l it should be locked by a pin. Any help would be really appreciated, Thanks, David.
We change the chain. Coherence was out. A lack of performance. Cheers
The chain should be tight and under tension at all time with the self adjustment. Top chain guide seems to be a common issue with this type of engine. Once replaced and time up , it will run a treat.
@@r.sgreasemonkey8876 Thanks Richard for taking the time to reply, much appreciated. I've got a new top guide to fit, I'm hoping simply fitting that will pull the timing back into correlation!?
So many of these top guides have sold on ebay and it's the only part of the chain kit that you can buy on its own (that I've seen anyway) which says alot as to the common issue with it like you say. Best wishes, Thanks again, David
Was the timing belt issues resolved on post 2010 models of 1.6vti non turbo models?
Yes. Replacing both the Chain and vvt sprockets.
@@r.sgreasemonkey8876 oh, I meant did Peugeot resolve it at the production stage so we don't have to fix it ourselves? Thanks
No. As it's not an issue when servicing is kept up to date with the right oil grade. The vvt' s become the issue. Chains are known to wear and stretch on all chain drive engines.
@@r.sgreasemonkey8876 thanks for that. I'm looking at few 2011 manual models. So, I guess I need toake sure the oil was changed every year and that correct grade was used. A little bit of rattle on start is OK? For 20 seconds or so, so the chain gets oiled.
@@londo0 if there us a rattle on start up then walk away. This should not happen. Worn lifters or a chain tensioner fault due to oil pressure. Don't buy it.
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Rich...is there any special way to re-install the valvetronic motor on this engine? i had a valve job done and the
shop removed it and gave it back with it detached? I cannot find any info on re-installation...thx mate
I’m not sure what you mean by a valvetronic motor. Can you verify. Cheers
Richard Sawyer I think what he means is, on the lower inlet camshaft, there is a quadrant gear, the valvetronic motor has a worm drive gear which meshes with the quadrant. What is the position of the quadrant? On every video, I've seen, including yours, the quadrant gear is vertical and I assume it's the resting position, so possibly that's the position that you fit the valvetronic motor/drive gear.
I'm rebuilding a mini same engine, and I'd like to know the fitting process of the valvetronic motor please?
@@stevenlangdon-griffiths293 exactly!
I figured it out
There is a turnstile inside motor on back
Insert I think 4mm Allen and twist in reverse then insert into block and keep backing out until motor is flush then switch to forward motion until it engages the cam and sits at the end of the half circle
Cheers hope it helps!!!
maxalwaysgoesbyboat ok! I'm not alone! I'm doing a mini at the moment. It had bent some valves and the inserts had fallen out of the head. I've stripped it and photographed it before I did, but, I dint take good enough photos of the valvetronic motor. I'm sorry for answering the question, but I'd thought that is what you were asking 😊
hi, i have a 2006 citroen c5 2.0 l. When my car warms up it gives the error that the oil pressure is too low while idling. I changed the oil, changed the oil sensor, changed the oil pump. But my problem still persists. Please help me what should I do? When I connect to OBD device, I get P0012 and P0011 errors
It sounds like you've done the hard work.
I would suggest fitting a genuine oil filter.
Some of the after market filters are not up to the job.
Worst scenario an auto electrician look into the wiring (bad earth).
@@r.sgreasemonkey8876 thank you so much
@@alpereno P0012 is a generic fault code that shows the intake camshaft timing on bank 1 is more retarded than what the powertrain control module [ PCM] has commanded it to be. P0012 in Mazda means an over retarded timing. The variable valve timing on the intake camshaft is not adjusting correctly, making the onboard computer register a fault code.
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Hie Sir . My mechanic wanted to change the pulley on the crankshaft and he mistakenly opened the crankshaft bolt and the car couldn't start and we realized the timing has been tempered with . Now we are Following this procedure but no special tools , only aligning the cams . Car is starting well but latr on bringing engine light with engine shaking smetymz and error codes some saying camshaft position slow . What might be the issue here
Locking tool is most important. If the timing is slightly out engine lamp will always come on. Coherence codes will be stored in the ecu. Even if your a tooth out. If you are in the UK then vehicle will fail its MOT if registered after march 2003 (petrol engines)
Locking the cams will fix issues. Cheers
No cambelt or time belt for 1.4 vti engine? Excuse my machine knowledge
This engine has a timing chain. No cambelt or timing belt just 1 external serpentine belt.
@@r.sgreasemonkey8876 thank you very much
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Is it possible to lock the fly wheel 180 degrees out ?
No. Once all the piston are level the locking pin will only go in one hole. I found using a small mirror is a great help.
@@r.sgreasemonkey8876
Changed head gasket and timing chain on 207 couldn’t lock cams as had head rebuilt Managed to lock the fly wheel and locked the cams with a similar kit to what you used in this video car will not start any ideas? somebody said that there’s a 2 degree tolerance for the cam shafts
It may be a case the cams got mixed up. The locking tool should fit perfectly. Double check. Cheers
Sorry did all piston at the same potition
All at the same height is important for timing position.
Timming is in but still don't want to start
Vvt-cemoo what the function of that pergeuot 207
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@@r.sgreasemonkey8876 i dont speak english