Imagine South Africa under the leadership of each party represented here. What would our future from economic policies to social reforms look like? Can we trust them to deliver?
We can say whatever we want about South African politics but I'm hapoy that our democracy is healthy enough to have such a public debate and that is extremely encouraging
smoke and mirrors friend. these faces are on the same payroll. Google Brenthurst Foundation and the conference it hosted recently where all the "leaders" on this panel were summoned.
I AGREE AND STEVEN IS MAKING HIS NAME @ss to ask idiotic questions and trying to make him as a joke. If Gayton could win and stand by his word this country will change for the best
The interviewer Steven is making it so obvious who he favors. Found it quite irritating. You are not open and equal to everyone. Clearly Steven is favouring the DA.
It's a ploy to undermine a very progressive political voice in the country. It is a fact that the EFF makes a huge impression in every debate where they are invited.
@@corneliapeters7877 clearly you are brainwashed and do not understand politics and how a coalition work. You will see after election day who will go with ANC, you are in for a big surprise
The Audience exposes the lense that The Daily Maverick curates its narrative and selective outrage and suppresses certain narrative to pander to this minority. I never believed it when they spoke of Stratcom but you can not help but see it on this video and how they ran this platform.
"You are just making that noise because your domestic worker and your nanny is going, she's going. You can make that noise as much as you like, under my government she is going" Gayton McKenzie 🤣 16:38
Is that all you came here for, do you live in SA? If you do you would be aware that certain parts of SA are dominated by Blacks and some are dominated by Whites, some are dominated by Coloured and some by Indians etc. Now use your common sense. If the debate were held in Eldorado Park what do you think the crowd would have looked like? Same as if it were held in Alexandra Township.
DA is likely to see its worst electoral decline this year.its leader is a walking wreck and lack leadership acumen .he is all over the show and lack strategic planning.
to be fair, it's hard to take the anc representative seriously here, because every problem we face has been created by the anc. It's like asking your drug dealer to solve your drug addiction problem.
I may not be an EFF supporter but where is the EFF, where is the MK, where is the Freedom Front Plus party... This debate was structered to undermind certain parties and to make other parties stand out... Steven is a real doooooos...
@@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq He says, Labour can't treat SMMES the same as Medium size and Big business. It is the those laws that kill small businesses. Small businesses must pay as much as they can afford. It is small business that help decrease unemployment. Half a loaf of bread is better than nothing.
@@mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 Bro Mashaba just said he wants to determine how much he should pay someone period.Capitalist only care about profit he further states that's the reason he became a politician.
@@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq Remember, he talks on behalf of ActionSa, and ActionSa does not put a blanket policy on these kinds of businesses as I have distinguished them from above. Its an error on his part, because he is not a seasoned politician. Otherwise, he's the right man for the job. Capitalism has its falls but its way better than socialism, socialism is a disaster, it has not worked anywhere. Free market economy is the best for South Africa. As long a the ruling government does not have a healthy relationship with the (1) private sector in Sa and (2) does not promote non-racialism, then rest assured nothing will ever work in SA, SA will be a failed state.
Illegal immigration benefits busness bcos of slave wages n not adhering to minimimum wages.all this NGOs representing illegal immigrants r likely funded by big business and big farmers.
I literally love how Gayton never sugar coats anything here 😂😂😂. We needed someone like this here. ActionSA has spoken some sense. My vote will never go to DA nor the ANC 🚮. John is a liar and is not for the people.
You are having debates with Parties that are not even on the national stage , that haven’t proven themselves yet you leave the EFF out😂? What a joke this is
Go and debate where you have proven and don't invite these Parties,call ACT,UDM and MK the debate alone,it will be nice to see Malema,Holomisa,Zuma,Magashula
What makes this circus big without the party that represents the BIGGEST population of our country EFF? Do whatever you like but you will never silence the mighty EFF🖤💚❤️
No discrimination, the eff leaders wouldn't participate in anything that has to do with the Daily Maverick and ENCA.Daily maverick investigated The eff leaders on VBS Scandal@lindilelubabalozulu8476
And dnt feel offended,we all know Eff from day one has never been a part of the national assembly debate,all they do, it's wear red and coz chaos always.Ethics first.
@@velaniludidi5886 I think EFF people must go to sleep on events such as these. The EFF is also not participating in some of the podcast platforms so nje mabalale/basele utywala.
"If you know the value of money you wouldn't be doing the job that you're doing right now", in future, when I see Steven's face I'll be reminded by this line!
Gayton speaks honest truth, even Steven is touched, he worried about his wokers at the expense of South Africans who are unemployed. For the sake of law, I'm prepared to carry my Identity documents the same way I'm carrying my driver's license. They reasons as why Unemployment is high in SA is because, jobs are stolen by foreigners and Unpatriotic employers. In SA foreigners they get employed by companies that do not respect the laws of this country, by employing foreigners with no special skills, but general skills South Africans have.
That Steven guy is so unprofessional, we expected such behavior from politicians not the interviewer. Completely ruined what could hv been a great debate. I like how Mashaba handled him
@maryjooste6161 are you listening to what he is saying...and do you honestly believe what he represents is for the good of all South Africans ...you must analyze things critically and don't put emotions upfront ...especially in politics....lemme give an assignment...go listen to Trump Vs Malema ...compare the two ...then you go listen to John vs Biden they both these two have ...no vision...no patriotism...and lack leadership
If only the EFF was present, this debate would have taken the right direction. Other than that, this was pure nonsense at the highest level. There’s no conviction in ideology and structural implementations intended.🚮
The two DM people are utterly unprofessional and disrespectful … They play to the gallery by mocking Lamola. I’m not an apologist for him, but how utterly unprofessional they are.
I am really impressed by Gayton Mckenzie he is very direct and is clearly representing the colored voters and citizens sentiments not just his own. After listen to this debate I will definitely vote for Gayton Mckenzie
There is nothing controversial about carrying Id documents until an influx of illegal foreigners is under control.People carried dompaas during the apartheid goverment at some point.
This is what South Africa needs. I'm happy that alternative media sees this gap and tries by all means to fill it . We need even more debates as well as Q & A sessions between average voters and politicians. This will drive our country towards the right direction.
the fact that the EFF isn't part of this debate and that by Biz news is a disgrace. tomorrow when the EFF reaches above 15% the very panelists will be the very same people running to make coalitions with them. I mean how do you call the PA which is yet to contest national elections over the EFF. this is really disappointing!!!
Steven is so annoying. How can these host be making jokes about serious stuff. We as youth cant vote when these hosts and politician act like teenagers.
Where is the EFF, where is the MK. The exclusion of this political parties really shows that they represent the people, they are not of the system that oppresses blacks and the poor.
Mckenzie I agree with you, it's easy we don't even need to stop them oh the road and ask for passpone instead we need to approach their employers to see if the employer is following the process of employment act, if not employer himself must face a penalty
I have lots of HOPE for SA after this debate. It shows we can talk to each other as SOUTH AFRICANS first and foremost, even if we disagree on many things... ❤🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Steven favored the DA but couldn't stand the fact that the audience is leaning more on Mashaba and getting a round of applause with every statement he makes hence he ended up being personal but he found Mashaba up to the task. My feeling is that from all these guys we can get a decent government going forward
Not only are they working illegally in the western cape they are in every corner of south Africa come to joburg they are in all the restaurants, Malawian in kzn are in hundreds
But the debate happened without the EFF they are not respected enough to be invited in the first place, no one beside the followers of malema has respect for him
We dnt invite EFF on platforms like these,at times they behave like stray dogs,that are on leach.you can't walk a Mgodoyi on a leach,is going to bite you badly.
With an internship you earn 2000-5000 I don't get how big businesses are always complaining about minimum wage....they don't hire, train and skill enough graduates with the internship program that can take up to two years....those who are lucky to get internships end up having a career as an intern (one after the other)
In Zim when its colonial name was Rhodesia or Southern Rhodesia, Ian Smith had persuaded the West to back his puppets in the persons of Abel Muzorewa and Ndabaningi Sithole who were said to be moderates. History proved them wrong! History is repeating itself in the twenty- first century. EFF is sidelined as popular Joshua Nkomo and Sir Gab Mugabe were. He was later knighted and subsequently de-knighted. We the Bethlehem, loyal EFF fighters take a wait & see approach.
During the colonial name of Rhodesia this country was doing extremly well economicly it was seen as one of the best in Africa as one of the biggest taboco suppliers in the wolrd. Then came Bob and his clows and they runed the Zimbabwe to the core. Why are more than half of Zimbabwens working in SA.?
We can say whatever we want about South African politics but I'm hapoy that our democracy is healthy enough to have such a public debate and that is extremely encouraging
Lol because things have gotten serious. Desperate times call for Desperate measures.
These are not white apartheid times... where children were killed for wanting freedom
smoke and mirrors friend. these faces are on the same payroll. Google Brenthurst Foundation and the conference it hosted recently where all the "leaders" on this panel were summoned.
Grootes was a terrible host. He brought bullying tactics from talk radio. The personal attack on Mashaba was shameful
Very
But I love how Herman conducted himself in response. Around the 30th minute or so
Agreed. How rude of him. As a host you can’t do that. This was a political debate and Grootes just attacked Mashaba for no reason.
Gayton is fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Making the establishment politicians very uncomfortable
😂🥳🥳😂🥳🥳🥳
ANC Puppet
I AGREE AND STEVEN IS MAKING HIS NAME @ss to ask idiotic questions and trying to make him as a joke. If Gayton could win and stand by his word this country will change for the best
Gayton is REALISTIC, he doesn't sugarcoat stuff, straight truth.
Herman Mashaba put that sorry excuse of a host in his place nicely!!! 🤣🤣🤣
yes
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Steven is a joke of note , could they not find someone better than him
@@jaimpin4784 yes
That comeback of Mashaba is like South Africa vs England the last 10 minutes Rugby WC that is etched into history 😂😂😂😂
Can't expect to have a BIG debate with only Oppenheimer's children..
Except Gayton, he is not funded by anyone.
😂😂😂😂😂
A gangster🤣🚮
😂
This was a joke
The interviewer Steven is making it so obvious who he favors. Found it quite irritating. You are not open and equal to everyone. Clearly Steven is favouring the DA.
yes
That what I'm seeing, exactly
The good thing is that he exposed himself
That's very true, I was about to make the same comment.
He is unprofessional and childish, as he is at SAFM
No election debate is complete without the EFF.
It's a ploy to undermine a very progressive political voice in the country. It is a fact that the EFF makes a huge impression in every debate where they are invited.
I couldn't even continue with the video after finding out. Now I'm going to unlike it and leave. I'm furious at this point.
TRUE!!!
true
EFF was invited but declined
Gayton McKenzie was throwing hits after hits after hits....❤😂🎉
I love my President 💚💚
When Gayton and John were going at each other and Lamola said "South Africa, here's your coalition government" I felt that 😅💔🥺.
My vote 🗳️ Nationally belongs to Patriotic Alliance ❤❤❤❤
A vote for them is a vote for the anc
@@corneliapeters7877 clearly you are brainwashed and do not understand politics and how a coalition work. You will see after election day who will go with ANC, you are in for a big surprise
What a cool guide guy, leader of the IFP. 🤙 Good luck sir.
i saw a lot of big ego's on that stage. he was the only one that looked like a president
very measured and calm,,, it was descending into chaos until he calmly spoke about trusting the work of the Multi Party Charter
Also like him
Should multi party charter win, he must be president
The audience is not a reflection of the demographics of SA.
its a microscope into the consumers of DM, does it have a true reflection of the people of RSA?
The Audience exposes the lense that The Daily Maverick curates its narrative and selective outrage and suppresses certain narrative to pander to this minority. I never believed it when they spoke of Stratcom but you can not help but see it on this video and how they ran this platform.
Gayton Speaks like this because he is not funded.... He is free and not bound by anyone❤❤❤
Facts💯💯💯
Gayton McKenzie don't have to clean lick any boby GAYTON MCKENZIE PLEASE FONT YOUR VOTERS
Don't let your voters down
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No room for xenophobes
The IFP leader quietly stole the show for me.
KZN is safe, its clear to hear
I like how he make his arguments.
Good Mashaba for putting this journalist in his place😂😂😂😂😂😂
The EFF leader is a dictator in the making. Be careful of him. #zimbabwe
"You are just making that noise because your domestic worker and your nanny is going, she's going. You can make that noise as much as you like, under my government she is going" Gayton McKenzie 🤣 16:38
He doesn't trust you 😂😂🤣🤣🤣twice
as if we can afford workers anymore. he is SO out of touch with normal ppl
Gayton a real one 😂
Really happy to be employed as garden boy, maids and waiters in your own country.
@@tinashemavurayi respectable work
Gayton and Mashaba are the best... Parliament will be interesting
Parliament is not a childs play ground
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Why is this crowd only white? Is this discussion taking place in Europe?
Good question
The blacks are at Cubanas😂😂
That audience is the owner of Mzansi
It is absolutely shocking. The Daily Maverick is out of touch and ethically unsound as a serious journalistic publication. Shameful
Is that all you came here for, do you live in SA? If you do you would be aware that certain parts of SA are dominated by Blacks and some are dominated by Whites, some are dominated by Coloured and some by Indians etc. Now use your common sense.
If the debate were held in Eldorado Park what do you think the crowd would have looked like? Same as if it were held in Alexandra Township.
Steven is utterly unprofessional, condescending in his tone and laughter ! Terrible panelist.
shameful behaviour sies!
DA is likely to see its worst electoral decline this year.its leader is a walking wreck and lack leadership acumen .he is all over the show and lack strategic planning.
to be fair, it's hard to take the anc representative seriously here, because every problem we face has been created by the anc. It's like asking your drug dealer to solve your drug addiction problem.
My thoughts exactly. He disappointed me seriously.
True but at least he's condescending to all the panelist right 😂
I do agree with Gayton regarding illegal immigrants having the jobs!!!!
Gayton must be used,he must prove himself in a more challenging position,he can deliver
But who is giving them jobs and notice how they want to get rid of minimum wage so they can under pay the poor and say at least they have jobs.
@@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq shameful capitalist clapping hands sies. Debate was a clown show.
Mostly white people flapping hands because STEVEN IS WHITE @@bhekisibiluane4030
true
I may not be an EFF supporter but where is the EFF, where is the MK, where is the Freedom Front Plus party... This debate was structered to undermind certain parties and to make other parties stand out... Steven is a real doooooos...
agreed a total do00s
It's just a show for Oppenheimer's puppets,luckily we're not that stupid anymore
And how come Cyril didn't represent ANC .I would have liked to see that
Not really pleased by the QUALITY of questions asked by the journalists. Simply questions grabbed from the air
When Gayton told that guy "Nobody is that stupid".... That was the perfect response.
Steven 😂😂😂😂 this stage was too big for you sir you were utterly unprofessional
He's DA membership was showing there
@@saneledlamini2109 I bet he is FF+
Big facts
The leader of the IFP was the most mature and was a statesman…. The rest were politicians.
Stephen Grootes is soo immature what a shame!
yes
Indeed 😮
Steenhuizen you are not a man of your word which makes you not an honourable person
To me John doing very good
@@maryjooste6161Agree 💯
I think John is doing a great job
@@maryjooste6161You must be same colour as him then.
Explain
without the EFF this is just propaganda to bash the ANC by moonshot pact wont waste my time
Shots fired by Mashaba 💥😂😂😂😂
Lamola had the toughest job...unfortunately the ANC is rotten
Lammy should be a teacher
He did well though
EFF’s absence is louder !!
"If you know the value of money you wouldn't be doing what you are doing right now" i felt it. You could see on his face that he didn't take it well.
The man wants to under pay his employees and say looking they have jobs Mashaba only cares about his business interest and nothing else.
That Stephen is a stupid lad, he keeps on throwing undertones. Its clear he is a DA stooge, Im happy Mashaba put him in his place.
@@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq He says, Labour can't treat SMMES the same as Medium size and Big business. It is the those laws that kill small businesses. Small businesses must pay as much as they can afford. It is small business that help decrease unemployment. Half a loaf of bread is better than nothing.
@@mzukulwanakangubengcuka2121 Bro Mashaba just said he wants to determine how much he should pay someone period.Capitalist only care about profit he further states that's the reason he became a politician.
@@SpotonwithTP-qz6wq Remember, he talks on behalf of ActionSa, and ActionSa does not put a blanket policy on these kinds of businesses as I have distinguished them from above. Its an error on his part, because he is not a seasoned politician. Otherwise, he's the right man for the job. Capitalism has its falls but its way better than socialism, socialism is a disaster, it has not worked anywhere. Free market economy is the best for South Africa. As long a the ruling government does not have a healthy relationship with the (1) private sector in Sa and (2) does not promote non-racialism, then rest assured nothing will ever work in SA, SA will be a failed state.
Illegal immigration benefits busness bcos of slave wages n not adhering to minimimum wages.all this NGOs representing illegal immigrants r likely funded by big business and big farmers.
I literally love how Gayton never sugar coats anything here 😂😂😂. We needed someone like this here.
ActionSA has spoken some sense.
My vote will never go to DA nor the ANC 🚮. John is a liar and is not for the people.
This is not balanced without the EFF's presence. But ke it's the DM, what did you expect?
we must not be disillusioned by this. Their lack of involvement speaks volumes, how can you speak of them in absentia?
You are having debates with Parties that are not even on the national stage , that haven’t proven themselves yet you leave the EFF out😂? What a joke this is
Go and debate where you have proven and don't invite these Parties,call ACT,UDM and MK the debate alone,it will be nice to see Malema,Holomisa,Zuma,Magashula
Eff doesn't have interviews with daily maverick
Why was the EFF which is the 3rd largest party excluded here?
Some classes at school dnt need noise makers.
Class,ethics and Class!!
EFF most likely declined the invitation.
They cut ties with the Daily Maverick so I heard so they may have declined the offer or just didn’t get any.
EFF would have sent all of them packing
@@himdamnself no they are a trash party
John is a true politician his lying with a straight face 😂😂😂😂
The audience doesn't represent the diversity of the South African population. It's like this show was recorded in Europe.
Best ❤❤
It was a presentation to the bosses
That's because your clan is more interested in going to shebeens and Shisanyamas instead of showing up at debates.
Participation is voluntary. If people do not engage themselves, don't blame or pull the race card.
It's the reason why the EFF was not invited
What makes this circus big without the party that represents the BIGGEST population of our country EFF? Do whatever you like but you will never silence the mighty EFF🖤💚❤️
Why are we being discriminated against?
No discrimination, the eff leaders wouldn't participate in anything that has to do with the Daily Maverick and ENCA.Daily maverick investigated The eff leaders on VBS Scandal@lindilelubabalozulu8476
This is the debate organized by the funders of the parties represented here. They wouldn't like their funds to be used by the EFF.
Because EFF always turn everything into anarchy
And dnt feel offended,we all know Eff from day one has never been a part of the national assembly debate,all they do, it's wear red and coz chaos always.Ethics first.
Definitely missing Mr. Malema. Mr McKenzie says it like it is, that's what we need in Politics in SA.
Gayton is what we need as a country. Decisive,smart and patriotic.
You mean erratic, irrational, and emotionally unintelligent.
I'm in Bwest where gayton are in charge Bwest is a rotten place under gayton look how Knysna look u under gayton he talk but not a walk
@@relaxmeditateliveAbsolutely agree with you👏💯
Abby u are my kinda person
@@maryjooste6161thanks but I am done voting for useless DA and Anc😊
Definitely voting for ActionSA. Mashaba comes across as a very honest patriotic man that just wants to fix SA.
Prof JJ Tabane must organize a proper political debate for us. That will include the Eff.
1stly you must tell us where is our gogos money and when you are gonna pay it back baba then we can talk.
Most definitely, this was laughable 😂 it is more of a white worry debate.
07:54 this how we 🇪🇺🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇯🇵 all laugh at africa how africa govern itself 😹😹😹😹😹😿😿😿😿😿😿
It could have been nicer if the EFF was invited in this debate. The strong youth led EFFof South Africa will definitely WIN!!!
They know we were going to send, Floyd, or Mbuyiseni, Julius, even our Spokesperson was going to mob the floor with them.
And turn tables over to much violence party
How do you know they were not invited 😅
Remember the EFF barred Daily Maverick from their events. The EFF does not speak to Daily Maverick, it was impossible to invite them
@@velaniludidi5886 I think EFF people must go to sleep on events such as these.
The EFF is also not participating in some of the podcast platforms so nje mabalale/basele utywala.
I love Gaton, his my man
"If you know the value of money you wouldn't be doing the job that you're doing right now", in future, when I see Steven's face I'll be reminded by this line!
how can you laugh at someone who lives under a bridgewhen you live in a box
Gayton speaks honest truth, even Steven is touched, he worried about his wokers at the expense of South Africans who are unemployed. For the sake of law, I'm prepared to carry my Identity documents the same way I'm carrying my driver's license. They reasons as why Unemployment is high in SA is because, jobs are stolen by foreigners and Unpatriotic employers. In SA foreigners they get employed by companies that do not respect the laws of this country, by employing foreigners with no special skills, but general skills South Africans have.
Lost all respect I had for Steven grootes. Gayton u what this sinking country needs.
AMEN AGREE 💯 WITH YOU
Because EFF is not part of this, it's a joke 😂 😂 😊
Both EFF and MK, it's a joke
We dnt bring Stoojies on such platforms,you see and listen here,no need to make noise,there are smart microphones.
Because it's a civil debate. There's no throwing water bottles and screaming at the top of the lungs
That Steven guy is so unprofessional, we expected such behavior from politicians not the interviewer. Completely ruined what could hv been a great debate. I like how Mashaba handled him
This interviewer Is most definitely a DA member. His not giving Gayton Mckenzie a fair chance his bias. My vote goes to PA .
You can isolate the EFF all you want but deep down i know you know
They know everything and they are exposing themselves now
😂Yes,we know they are Violent and Corrupt
Daaamn who in good mind,invite EFF for debate,I have never seen these guys debating even in our national assembly.
Yes we know the eff is useless😊
Where is EFF ?
Ja long time no see. Juju been in rehab?
Destroying something somewhere
@@veronicakarstel9126😂
Jonh just gets dumber dumber😢😢😂
Your not serious why do you say John are dumb mybe thres problem with you IK
@maryjooste6161 are you listening to what he is saying...and do you honestly believe what he represents is for the good of all South Africans ...you must analyze things critically and don't put emotions upfront ...especially in politics....lemme give an assignment...go listen to Trump Vs Malema ...compare the two ...then you go listen to John vs Biden they both these two have ...no vision...no patriotism...and lack leadership
❤ beautiful said❤
John was brilliant
The DA is fucked. If John is the best the DA got then tough luck😂
If only the EFF was present, this debate would have taken the right direction. Other than that, this was pure nonsense at the highest level. There’s no conviction in ideology and structural implementations intended.🚮
Would disrupt the meeting and make it a circus, like in parliament....they are so intolerant and arrogant.
Tell us where is our gogos monies baba before you can be allowed on the table😂
PA AND ActionSA will save the country
A vote for PA . Means a vote to the anc
@@corneliapeters7877liar
Gayton I agree with your view on Hamas 💯💯💯
The two DM people are utterly unprofessional and disrespectful … They play to the gallery by mocking Lamola. I’m not an apologist for him, but how utterly unprofessional they are.
Gayton handled this horrible crowd
There was nothing wrong with the crowd
The truth is never plesent Da is living in la la land just like the ANC WHAT IS DIFFERENCE between THE DA AND ANC IN THIS 30 YEARS
Gayton is the problem😂
@@the_antiquarkyup he is a massive problem for the DA, Anc and Eff😊
Steven is clearly in favour of DA. How can they allow Steven as an interviewer? He is not objective
Ronald, After seeing n hearing you for so many times. You still fail to show me Why you are Justice Minister 🤔🤔
considering whats going on at the masters office ...
I am really impressed by Gayton Mckenzie he is very direct and is clearly representing the colored voters and citizens sentiments not just his own.
After listen to this debate I will definitely vote for Gayton Mckenzie
EFF is politics in SA and is what made most people to be aware of political issues.
Facts
07:54 this how we 🇪🇺🇺🇸🇨🇦🇬🇧🇯🇵 all laugh at africa how africa govern itself 😹😹😹😹😹😿😿😿😿😿😿 banana africa
True
Gayton is not a politician, he is a leader
Leader of chaos
@@markwainwright6243 ABAHAMBE, WHEN ARE YOU GOING HOME?
Going jome after w@@MevCompany
@@MevCompany where is home
@@markwainwright6243 😂 a blabbermouth.
Love Gayton McKenzie❤🇿🇦
There is nothing controversial about carrying Id documents until an influx of illegal foreigners is under control.People carried dompaas during the apartheid goverment at some point.
So you think it is a good idea to bring back the dompas??
Agreed, anything to remove illegal foreigners
Wy didn't we have an EFF rep here. Imnot watching the rest of this. Bye bye
Gaydon is a leader no dout
This is what South Africa needs. I'm happy that alternative media sees this gap and tries by all means to fill it . We need even more debates as well as Q & A sessions between average voters and politicians. This will drive our country towards the right direction.
Wow MASHABA.........If you know the value of money, you would not be doing the job that you are doing now!!!!!!
"South Africa here is your coalition government" (Lamola, 49:12)😂😂
the fact that the EFF isn't part of this debate and that by Biz news is a disgrace. tomorrow when the EFF reaches above 15% the very panelists will be the very same people running to make coalitions with them. I mean how do you call the PA which is yet to contest national elections over the EFF. this is really disappointing!!!
No you think too much to make that statement, let's hear new players and the view we know the EFF
@@TshepoMotale-zq9sd hey wena clever black IFP Is old here
Well if you can check carefully it's the masters and their slaves and the EFF has not sold out our people so it's a positive that they are not here
remember all of these are scared of EFF, that has been proven.
Is DA and ANC new players
Steven is so annoying. How can these host be making jokes about serious stuff. We as youth cant vote when these hosts and politician act like teenagers.
Agree Steven is irritating and he clearly favours DA only.
@@wikussedze9292 it is so clear.
@@wikussedze9292Sorry disagree there
This plane called multi party coalition has failed before it could even get off from the ground
Where is the EFF, where is the MK. The exclusion of this political parties really shows that they represent the people, they are not of the system that oppresses blacks and the poor.
Yes they are😂 worse than ANC.
Correct Ronald, the ANC needs help. Help to exit as a governing party.
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Yup we will gladly assist by voting Patriotic Alliance 🎉🎉🎉
Gayton Mckenzie has my vote
Coloured Community wake up. For too long we have been taken for granted. We are marginalized in Mzanzi
Colored communities had better stand up,they cannot afford another 5yrs of being marginalised
I doubt Gayton is the ONE...come to Action SA it's an inclusive party .. it's not a white or black party ..
You are black
PA should consider reconsidering their stance on the Israel Palestine issue or they might lose votes.
They could be neutral, if they have to
Why should international politics influence your vote at home?
PA wants a 2 state solution. That's neutral😊
Mckenzie I agree with you, it's easy we don't even need to stop them oh the road and ask for passpone instead we need to approach their employers to see if the employer is following the process of employment act, if not employer himself must face a penalty
I have lots of HOPE for SA after this debate. It shows we can talk to each other as SOUTH AFRICANS first and foremost, even if we disagree on many things... ❤🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Gayton's energy
Steven favored the DA but couldn't stand the fact that the audience is leaning more on Mashaba and getting a round of applause with every statement he makes hence he ended up being personal but he found Mashaba up to the task. My feeling is that from all these guys we can get a decent government going forward
He's white. Which is expected 😂
Steven was so biased and unprofessional, glad EFF didn't join this circus
I agree with Mc Kenzie
MKP literally enjoys free marketing everywhere even in it's absence 😂
Voting for PA
Gayton mckenzie is a great men
Not only are they working illegally in the western cape they are in every corner of south Africa come to joburg they are in all the restaurants, Malawian in kzn are in hundreds
Exactly, KZN is full of them
And Western Cape, time for Patriotic Alliance to step up and assist to get them home who are here illegally 😊
Gayton, the youth might not want to be gardeners and domestics.
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Our youth had better wake up,no good standing line at the airport and the ship lifts anchor,get onboard
We used do those jobs
Gayton thinks black youth aspire to be gardeners, waiters and housemaids
ANC think 6 million people earning R200 a day is an achievement, meanwhile you have 30 MILLION unemployed people! How stupid!!
Where do I find such seminars or debates so I can attend in person?
ActionSA makes sense for me. Herman Mashaba for President.
viva John that's how a leader speak. Soft, with respect and with knowledge also admit some mistakes.
Without the EFF theres no debate.
Eff is aggressive party they will turn over the table s
But the debate happened without the EFF they are not respected enough to be invited in the first place, no one beside the followers of malema has respect for him
Eff dont have self control.They will get aggressive and get violent...😂
We dnt invite EFF on platforms like these,at times they behave like stray dogs,that are on leach.you can't walk a Mgodoyi on a leach,is going to bite you badly.
Well we just watched a whole hour of a debate
Thank you so much for posting the video Really loved it !!!
With an internship you earn 2000-5000 I don't get how big businesses are always complaining about minimum wage....they don't hire, train and skill enough graduates with the internship program that can take up to two years....those who are lucky to get internships end up having a career as an intern (one after the other)
In Zim when its colonial name was Rhodesia or Southern Rhodesia, Ian Smith had persuaded the West to back his puppets in the persons of Abel Muzorewa and Ndabaningi Sithole who were said to be moderates. History proved them wrong! History is repeating itself in the twenty- first century. EFF is sidelined as popular Joshua Nkomo and Sir Gab Mugabe were. He was later knighted and subsequently de-knighted. We the Bethlehem, loyal EFF fighters take a wait & see approach.
During the colonial name of Rhodesia this country was doing extremly well economicly it was seen as one of the best in Africa as one of the biggest taboco suppliers in the wolrd. Then came Bob and his clows and they runed the Zimbabwe to the core. Why are more than half of Zimbabwens working in SA.?
Hlabisa is the calm statesman in this debate. So glad he is a valuable member of the opposition and MPC