The Downfall Of Cryaotic: From Gamer To Groomer!
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- čas přidán 8. 12. 2021
- Cryaotic was once a big part of the gaming community on CZcams, Collaborating with PewDiePie and other big creators back in the early 2010s but during the summer of 2020 Cry would get exposed for interacting inappropriately with minors, Cryaotic would then make a 4 minute video admitting to cheating on his girlfriend with multiple minors, Cryaotic would get hit with a wave of allegations that added up to nearly 20 victims, Cry would state that he would upload a follow up video apologizing but Cry has since disappeared off of social media leaving behind his channel Cryaotic with over 2 million subscribers, This is the Downfall of Cryaotic
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The Downfall Of Cryaotic: From Gamer To Alleged Groomer!
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Could og youtubers stop grooming people for like 12 minutes jesus
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Well your not turkey tom but ill do
@@SnubMacaroon v okkbtttovo know
youtubers in college need to focus on their majors not their minors
edit: of all the comments why did this have to get the most likes lmao
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How hard is it for these people to think "If s/he's under 18, don't date her"? It's common sense to people like us.
Fr tho
FR these people are weird
Age of consent in PA is 16. I'm not advocating for this behavior but the law makes it pretty easy for predators. Some states is as low 14 JS.
Idk man it's probably the dopamine they get when they see someone under the age
no offense but these people probably don't know their age at first
The most disturbing part is how good of a manipulator he is. Someone uploaded a compilation of Cry's Catherine series in which he answered questions about fidelity and love. At the time he had already cheated. In the video he lied so naturally about everything when answering the in-game questions.
i was just thinking about this series. god it’s so weird to think about it now with everything that’s happened… makes me sick
You want to know why he sounded so genuine? Because the "genuine" people are also full of shit. No one knows what the fuck they're talking about when it comes to almost anything. Those "genuine" people are just repeating shit they heard sociopaths in media say, blissfully unaware that some people notice the empty look in their eyes when they blurt some of this shit out. There's no such thing as a good liar, but there's definitely such a thing as a good sucker. That's what most people are.
This was my favourite series of his. Wtaf is wrong with that man🤬 he lied so smoothly, he’s obviously well versed in deception.
We all are manipulator
While what he did hurt, I was even more angry at the comment section. There were people claiming "we forgive you" and shit like that, when they have absolutely no right to. Nice to see people still not give a shit about victims nowadays
His audience were mostly kids. This is why content creators need to be held to a certain standard. Kids look up to them, and when you have creeps like Cry then you get situations where literal children are excusing child grooming because they don't understand the situation. We live in a world now where content creators/influences/whatever can legit mass groom children if they wanted to.
Miniladd had the same comments
Cry's "apology" video didn't like,, say what he did wrong, he said sorry with minimal context, so no doubt people saw and forgave him because they didn't know the full context--when I first watched it I was so confused on what he did wrong so I didn't think much of it you know? Until I watched a video a week later (prison mike?? I think, he was playing tf2 or something) about it and fully knew the context
It’s always “we forgive you” like they were the ones affected by his actions and not, y’know, his victims? Hate those shit comments
You were more angry at a comment section than grooming?
The most fucked up part about this situation is when Russ talked about this he broke down crying when he learned the last 2 girls he dated started messing around with cry behind his back and cry didn't feel no remorse about it. When cry introduced us to cheyenne Via a random portal coop video we were all shocked because cry kept his personal life very private and everyone was excited hoping they do BF & GF playthroughs. The entire time NOBODY knew she was underaged. We all assumed she was the same age or younger than cry.
It's so sad especially when Chey was defending him so strongly. She used to go off on people who pointed out their age difference and she used to think it was okay.
Even when all the accusations came out Chey was outraged like everyone and told her story, but then it was revealed she was also comforting Cry and saying what he did wasn't as bad compared to what the rest of the crew had done (which was nothing). I hope she got the help she needed to realise her abuse and move past Cry.
@@StarrChild. what was the age difference ?
@@HaiiKris Chey was 16 and Cry was in his early 20s (22 or 23 I think)
I honestly didn't know that chey was underage wow I would have thought at 19 or higher
@@KCH55 you can still find their portal video on CZcams. Watching it after learning everything makes you cringe megahard
Cry made one of the top ten worst apologies on this entire site for grooming children and his career was almost peacefully laid to rest like some kinda fallen soldier wtf. Generally people seemed much sadder to lose him than mad at what he did
I’m saddened by losing the character of Cryaotic. His voice used to be something nice to listen to when I was young. But I’m deeply angry at the actions of the man behind that character.
@@jeffdinvell This is kinda what I mean. Most people’s lamentations sound exactly this, mourning nostalgia and then “what he did sucks”. Not that there’s anything actually wrong with that inherently either, those feelings are entirely valid and understandable, especially from watchers with no actual personal involvement with his actions but personal attachment to his content.
There’s just too much of that imo. Not enough anger. With the main narrative being “but I loved him, this sucks 😢”, that gives him way more chance come back and prey on those soft spots still left. His first apology got so much support initially because it leaned into that “remember all the fun times we had together but really I was a sad sad man, you shouldn’t pity me for grooming kids but low key you should but I’ll never do it again cause I always knew it was wrong”. And then people DID, not everyone but too many
I guess I just hope for things to shift more towards “I’m angry at this man” than “loved this man, angry at his actions”. I think the first one would get more shit done and what Cry really deserves
@@hotmamma2126 Throughout my life I was a victim of grooming, as well as molestation. I would turn to CZcams, and in turn Cry, because they were something comforting to me in a life I found shitty. I never go to Twitch really unless it’s to support my friends, so after he stopped uploading letsplays, I stopped coming to his channel. I was sad to lose his videos, and I was completely disheartened to find out someone I held in such high regard was also an abuser. I can’t speak for others, but I can never forgive him, or any others that hurt kids like me. I hope he gets his comeuppance, and I hope that he fades into obscurity
@@jeffdinvell My genuine condolences to what you've been through, to find those same traits in a beloved creator is never easy and heartbreaking for sure. Glad you're still here
It doesn't seem he's trying to make a comeback at least, so he's lost most of his platform to a degree for now. May he never return
I think growing up made me realize how toxic his behaviour was, first with the controversy with his Saturday streaming members, and then this coming out. The signs were there for years but we all just ignored them until they got revealed to be not okay. I rember back when I was 11-12 watching him and he brought up how he met Cheyenne and what age she was compared to him I thought it was fine. Now that I am older I realize how unsettling that age difference and general relationship was.
i’m sorry, but if i found out one of my friends was a child groomer, i would cut contact immediately. the “but we work together” explanation doesn’t cut it for me, personally. that’s just me though…
100%! I'd risk losing my job, I'd risk a lot of things if it meant no longer associating with a child predator.
agreed, when he said that it was very off putting to me.
I believe they all had signed a contract. In which case, they could not quit until their time within the contract was up.
@@miatree6073 im sure they had
They didn’t just work together. They lived together. And it was his place. They were stuck in a insanely tough spot during an alt difficult time.
It’s understandable to just push away from a job if you found certain things out. But they were not only contracted afaik, but also had no other living arrangements. It’s not easy to just pack up and go somewhere else. Especially so when it involves needing to coordinate with others in the same house, all of whom would be jobless if they quit and left.
They were forced to accept his behavior and it sounds horrible.
can we talk about how fucked up it is the crew admitted to knowing about cry grooming a 16 y/o and prioritized their income over a child.
Im sorry, they totally knew more. its clear that cry coming out about his misdeeds is what forced them to finally say something themselves
fr i'm surprised more comments aren't talking about it. that entire section of scott's twitch stream was sickening.
yeah it's really bizarre that everyone is just okay with it. they knew about it and didn't cut him off or hold him accountable at all. unfortunately it's pretty common for friend groups, especially men, to protect each other instead of outing each other. it's easier to just stay silent than put your own head on the chopping block. but fr it's immoral, disgusting, and i am baffled they aren't being criticised as well as cry for covering up child grooming :/
Just to clarify he lied to them about it and gaslit them into believing it was a one time mistake, to summarize that was a poor presentation of information in this video.
@@cesarvenegas1703 apparently youtube just autodeleted my last reply rip lmao
I /personally/ think it's a little too generous to excuse them even with those claims. I was there for the drama, and still got the impression that they knew more with all the stories they gave after.
Also you don't just accidentally do that with a kid, it's naive to think it would just be a one time thing. I'm sure cry manipulated/gaslit them. It's a clear habit, but, like I said. The idea that he'd only make that mistake once is utterly naive and their denial of it is fueled by their own selfishness
Like what was said, cry was pretty private about his life so I'm pretty sure they wouldn't know shit tbh. Cry even fooled around with his bestfriends girlfriend. Yes they knew but its just not their story to tell.
Why does YT need to have an era where so many beloved YTers end up like this...
It's to be expected when a lot of these youtubers and their audience are now older and able to understand stuff better.
It’s a good thing. It allows us to know who the real OGs are.
Oh hey you again
Yep
@@yaboi2500 AY
Cry was literally one of the OGs but man, I'm glad he got exposed. Hope he fixes himself
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@@clouds645 silence spammer
Even if He does No one would Care. People will still hate him. People dont realise that people are fixable. All they want is hateful revenge.
Probably won't fixes himself, despite the controversy
@@neilisawesome2333 Maybe not. Which i’s not ok. Hope u dont Think i condone this shit.
This was a big lesson in parasocial relationships for me. Words can't describe how devastated I was when this happened. I used LNC as a coping mechanism for abuse and learning that Cry was just like my abuser caused major setbacks for my mental wellness. I know now. Content creators are not my friends.
They are not your friends and they should certainly not be trying to be your lovers 🤦
Finding out this about him and that Dan Avidan was an asshole and irresponsible with his sex life, it was a tough blow lmao
@@AkiraScrolls wait what about Dan???
You should have known content creators aren’t your friends LOL. only your friends are your friends. if they don’t know you exist, why would you think you’re “friends”?
@@nateb3679 Maybe I was a fucking abused child? Maybe I had personal issues which led to me seeing content creators as friends? Don't act holier than thou just because I had issues that you didn't.
As a 20 year old, I can't imagine how he can excuse his actions. The maturity difference between people my age and someone 16-17 is still HUGE. And mental health is not an excuse for committing literal crimes against a minor. I can't believe my initial reaction to the news was skepticism. I had watched Cry for years and I always felt he was genuine because he openly discussed mental health. Luckily I took the time to listen to the victims and see the evidence. F that guy.
Thats true, but its still a somewhat small gap. As Long as you dont be an asshole, a reationship is fine
I live with a 50 year old man who was in the military who has the mental maturity of a fourteen year old, trust me, people are immature regardless of their age... I'm not disagreeing with you entirely tho
@@mentallyillfinger yeah and anyone that has sex with him would get arrested for the same reason a nonce would get arrested taking advantage of a vunrable person who cant consent to sex age of consent also applies to mental age
@@Exel3nce it's not a small gap and it's not fine. Unless they met in high school already there's no reason for a college aged person to go prowling for high schoolers. The maturity and culture surrounding the two are wildly different
@@razzytack it is a small gap and you cant make it an absolute
Cry has always been on my mind but i never felt like looking him up. So happy you mad this video on him. Now i can (sorta) get him outta my head
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u good bro???
@@HoboAKAHottFuzz lol yea im good. Just tired of all the youtubers i watched when i was younger endin up bein either pedos or groomers or worse. Its a shame really
@@Skull_E_Duggery I feel you on that, honest to god feels like theres 1 every month now, and thats not even mentioning all the celebs in general as well, the world is a dark place man, stay safe and take care!
This was the case that made me stop idolising content creators. Cry was my comfort youtuber and I watched everything he put out, he was the best, not just because of his voice or whatever but just how he was in general. I have never been so upset because of a person's cancellation (upset @ him obviously) before and it low-key gave me trust issues. I used to draw fanart too but stopped after I had to throw everything Cry-related out, it was a waste of time and resources. Now I just resort to anime and bad music like real men, the era of "the youtuber" is gone, may it's memory be a blessing
Very particular about who i view as a good person from the internet or tv. There are a few case where I believe a person’s honesty and righteousness shines so hard that i would trust them in real life although many of them are dead now😅 id say the only ppl i view as 99.9% trustworthy are Penguinz0, masihiro sakurai. I would say trevor moore and jaseh onfroy but they both dead
@@turokokokoko9714don’t laugh about dead people you jackass
@@turokokokoko9714 none how about that
@@yawn1171 he's not laughing about dead people, idiot
@@belowaverage3451 you’re the Idiot here
i've never been sadder to see a "youtuber gets called out for grooming" case than with cry. he was my favorite for years, and i used to watch his playthroughs multiple times when i was about 13-15 when i needed something quiet, or i go to his playthroughs bc his decisions always felt right to me. to know that i actively watched him when i was the same age as his victims, alongside the fact this happened to someone i found comfort in for years, broke my heart for a couple days. it still breaks my heart now :(( it sucks man
I know right, is it that hard for people to not go after children????
ugh i watched him in 2014 when i was 14 and he even taught me a lil bit of english (it's not my native language), i felt awful when i watched his apology cuz i was groomed right after i discovered his channel. he's just like my abuser. why can't they keep it in their pants for christs sake what's even fun about chatting w/someone so young anyway like i'm 22 now and i can't even think of talking to someone that young man lol we wouldn't have anything in common and it's still baffles me how grown ass men think it's fun to fuck around w ppl that young.
@@lucy4666 I had the same experience, even with him teaching me English too. Also watched him at a time when I was being abused by an older man. He really made my trust in men take a deep dive to hell. I hate how good groomers are at luring in already abused children, he was a expert at it. Especially when he commented to his audience in a flirty way a lot of the time.
why is it that groomers always get to be viewed sympathetically but their victims cant even exist as their own people anymore
Well never know
@doperification whats embarrassing is you being a p/do white knight for someone whos never going to even know you exist
@doperification found the pedo
@doperification not the end of the world? well why hasn’t cry come back to youtube?
that last bit got to me. i was abused and groomed in the same age range as his victims and its so true man u just will never get those years back. they fuck w your brain til ur not urself anymore n they blame u for their shit afterwards cuz they think that u consented to their crap.
This was the first time an exposed CZcamsr made me break down. Cry helped me through so many issues in life and I grew up with him. His admittance came out the day after my birthday and I was depressed for days after. So many times I turned to his videos to smile after being groomed and raped myself, only to learn I was smiling over the same type of person that was making me fall so far mentally. Broke my heart, man.
That's a bruh moment
To be fair, you didn't know he was a creep.
@@guardiansoulblade2673 Tbh (at least to me) that makes it even worse. Nobody knew. Maybe only his closest, who would never say anything. This was the worst backstab any of his fans could've experienced. Feel free to call it weird or stupid, but when you're at your lowest, and there's this one tiny thing that still manages to bring you some moniker of happiness, it matters. And Cry's actions and whole ass stupidity and inability to look at himself and think "I am scum" when interacting with those girls? It feels like betrayal. Cry didn't know all his fans personally, but we all knew him (or at least the persona) and especially if you're young, it tends to make you think of the person(a) as something like a friend. OP I wish you the best to your life. There are better people than Cry out there who can still bring you happiness. Please don't throw away your hope. I hope the weight has been lighter than before.
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@@BabyDragon63 thanks for the kind comment, I was there from his first video with pewds when I was a kid, and since his confession, I've taken ownership of the games I watched over and over, which has helped a lot. I've gotten councilling for my past and am happy to say I'm a lot better now and am about to start my dream job! Honestly, I'm surprised this comment reached people and wasn't just a message lost to the void haha
You never realized how long you’ve been on this app until you hear all the people that got found out to be groomers.
App???
@@archkull CZcams?
@@LuxXxP somebody forgot you can use youtube on other things aside from a computer😂
LMAO no fr
As a former fan, this was heartbreaking to learn. I grew up with his content, and it really influenced me. Hearing his voice felt like hearing a friend speak.
A lot of people seem to criticize Crys old fans for how they reacted to this whole situation. People say we've been "more sad to lose him than mad at him." It's neither of those. It's profound disappointment and betrayal. Many of us consumed his content during the lowest times of our lives, many of us at the same age as the victims. Of course we're mad, but it's not like being mad at a stranger on the news. It's someone you dedicated hours and hours of your life to and supported and I think many of us have had a hard time accurately expressing the separate feelings of past fondness and disgust at this discovery. Most of us were being gaslit through our entire teen years just to be faced with....this. And the most spineless, manipulative, pathetic apology in the history of this site.
I think it’s grief
I'd say it's severe disappointment
oh shut up about “profound betrayal”, you didn’t know him and he didn’t know you lmfao
^^^^ for real like LMFAOO
@@nateb3679 That's the most depressing part. We may have been emotionally invested, but ultimately, we had no idea who he was. It's the hindsight backlash that makes you regret trusting someone when you have no idea what he was supposed to be. It makes you feel stupid and gives a waking call to how harmful parasocial relationships can be. /:
I watched Cry all the way back when he Let's played Amnesia, and tried to make every single Late Night Saturday stream all the way til this whole thing happened. That's almost 10 years of watching his content. I hate that he did any of what he did, to the victims, to his friends, and his fans. Listening to Russ' breakdown from it was heartwrenching, Cry had taken all of the good times anyone had ever had with him and threw it in the trash, all because he couldn't keep it in his age range nor could he use some self control with anyone else. Like Russ said, all those years, all those good times are tainted now. It stings man. Leave the kids alone
Man this really hit me hard, I started watching him around that same time too, when he met pewdiepie and Ken, then the late night crew, such good times. The biggest disappointment to realize perhaps even during way back then he was doing so much dumb, bad sht until the end.
He let down many kids, teenagers, adults, all his viewers. There went my younger years.
Then it's about time people realize it's not trans people that are the ones perpetuating all of this.
People fear monger and call trans people pedos and predators for simply being trans and it's actually people who hide in plain site that are the perpetrators
@@jayhollows5729 did you mean to post this in this thread or...? /gq
sorry it's such a... direct change from what was being talked about i'm so confused-
@@sierrarowe4742 no I mean it to be here exactly becusse over the years there have been smear campaigns towards the LGBT community to make it seem like they want to advocate for pedophilia as a sexuality when in reality it was a troll campaign by 4chan, also right wing reactionaries conflating trans people with pedos and saying they are going to use the bathroom to rape people and that's why we need bathroom laws.
It's completely relevant my guy when the fear mongers ignore the pedos, groomers etc beucase they look and act in plain sight. They aren't claiming to be trans to get into a bathroom becusse predators don't regard the law to begin with.
@@jayhollows5729 oh alright, thanks for clarifying /gen
Wait, Cryotic?!? The same guy who collabed with Pewdiepie back in the day?!?
I haven't heard that name in years and this comes in and hits like a truck which later transforms into Optimus Prime and roundhouse kicks me in the nuts...
Lol yeah I haven’t heard of that name in years
He does explain all of this..
Damn, the nuts doe?
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Yeah it’s really sad but disturbing news
God, I didn't think anyone would talk about this. It feels like he admitted what he did and no content creators said anything - even publicity stuff like detaching from him didn't really happen. He just disappeared. Sometimes it feels like he didn't exist at all.
I was so sad about it. The victims deserved better, and it's so disappointing that a guy who openly built his image as a flawed but good person was secretly so shitty. Feels a bit like a lot of us lost a childhood hero. He's a ghost now.
yeah dude. feels validating seeing comments that speak my mind so well. it was and still is a very very weird and bad feeling. luckily there are still some genuine people out there, despite it feeling so rare these days.
I’m so tired of the way victims are treated in our society. Being groomed again and again and being embarrassed for *myself* rather than being angry with the people that hurt me, feeling *obliged* to forgive those people because maybe they didn’t mean to, maybe they didn’t know better, maybe i’m just as bad… I’m so tired of it. Fans actively choosing to excuse these creators, flame people for accusing their creators, being skeptical before being concerned. It happened with CallMeCarson, it happened with Cry, and it keeps happening. It’s so exhausting.
And seeing so many fans online defend them enforces the idea that you have no reason to resent them. Which is absolutely not true.
I relate to that embarrassment, and even though I don’t know your story, I want you to know that it’s not your fault. None of it is your fault. It’s the groomers and abusers that should feel ashamed, not us.
what did call me Carson do other than date someone a year or 2 younger? thought him being a “pedophile” was the main thing
@@jeux2322 dude, it was more than one person. the 17 year old girl was only one person. if you watch schlatts weeklyslap video, schlatt mentions he was not sexting A FAN but FANS. he mentions this multiple times that carson was talking to more than just that girl, and i sincerely doubt they were all conveniently 17. but whatever
@@virusDETECTED all we know is that he sexted people slightly younger than him. he didn’t commit any crime, he was just a manipulative weirdo.
Finding out that a youtuber I watched when I was a kid is a groomer is the weirdest existential dread I have ever felt. Like sometimes I'll think of this and just be like "holy shit I was in danger"
i used to think it was so cool he would reply to comments in like a flirtatious playful manner and now looking back it's just sickening
Yea.. I remember seeing him reply to fans in comments flirtatiously, and as a kid I dont remember if I ever commented, but i always wanted that kind of attention, which is why it's dangerous to treat a kid that way. Grooming 😬😬
He was 22 with a 16 yr old :/
Literally same
@@artemis3306 I'm 22 and I legitimately cant understand why someone my age would date a sixteen year old, so sick🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
When he uploaded his "apology" out of nowhere, I didn't really understand what was going on, and just kinda accepted he had a breakdown and maybe he was getting better. When it finally clicked what the hell was in the content of that video; I felt sick. For literal years I watched him, feeling comforted by his big brother energy (to me at that time. I was roughly 12). I felt utterly repulsed having realized I grew up and felt comforted by a groomer. I know it's weird to say I felt betrayed by a stranger, but goddamn did I break; none of my memories will be the same and a part of my childhood feels tarnished.
Some might disagree with me, but it's not very strange to me. I felt the same. I watched the "apology" when it was uploaded, knowing nothing either. I saw all the supportive comments telling him they're here for him etc etc. I was weirded out. What did he do? So I went to dig. And the bitterness and betrayal I felt was most likely the same as yours. It's sickening. I watched him since I was a weenie teen (am way too into adulthood now, I believe I was around 13-14) and all the experiences I had with his videos, me showing him to my friends and watching his playthroughs and streams together, all the games I got to know through him, were all empty memories now.
I hope the victims can rest easy. And I hope Cry gets his stupid life together and never comes back.
@@BabyDragon63 I went through this same cycle ... I remember back when I was 14-15, being so elated when Cry responded to one of my CZcams comments and I’d try to watch up early on weekends just to catch his live-streams ... to find out all the shit he did to underaged girls and his best friend. it was in unbelievable
Exactly, I feel 100% the same
You summed up how my wife handled the Ryan Haywood Rooster Teeth groomer drama well.
She was watching since Ryan appeared and grew up with him and the reveal ruined so much for her. It kind of took a piece of her childhood innocence away. We may make jokes over it now but the wound is still there.
I finally found someone who has a similar space of mind as I do, when I commented I had really no idea what was going on. Once the big boom of ped0phile exposure came in I'd begun to change how I saw it. It's very bittersweet when I think about my past with his playthroughs. It's really heartbreaking when I realize a part of my childhood is filled with so many childgroomers, experience with abusers and he ended up being added to the list.
I don't think it's anything weird to pray for people to not be bad people. The expectation for people to be decent isn't a big demand. It's pretty human. However, us acknowledging that he has done what he has done, and us not forgiving/letting him go over it just means that we have grown up as well.
And it's scary to realize that sometimes. Another piece of nostalgia that we can't embrace and have to leave behind. But in the end that's all it is. A piece of the past.
Best wishes to you dude.
There were absolutely some fans who “forgived” him, as if it were their place to do so. But as someone who was quite active in the discord and was present throughout the entire ordeal of the news breaking and everything coming to light; I want to point out that the majority of fans IMMEDIATELY distanced themselves from Cry. His head mod, Bear, made a completely separate discord so that the community could stay intact while not being involved with Cry. For three days, that new discord was pure catharsis. Voice channels, chat channels, most of it was hundred of people just talking to each other about how fucked the whole situation was and how betrayed we felt. The community really closed ranks and lifted each other up. I remember there was a rush to archive all of Cry’s videos, in case he decided to take his channel down and any of the footage was possibly needed for evidence. Volunteers, myself among them, managed to archive the entire Cryaotic channel in a little under three days. The situation was horrible, but none of us went through it alone. Sure, there were people that “forgave” Cry, but for the most part he was abandoned by the community he had created.
That's good to hear, because it's been years and things like this is still happening in the games industry. It's a veritable plague upon a gaming community who only wants to have fun and play good games and even worse, who're underage. THIS is why I left the industry. It makes my skin crawl to be there. But at least our fans have their heart in the right place. It's a small consolation
I’m fucking disgusted that Cry was the CZcamsr that got me into creepy content. I can’t even listen to his voice without feeling sick. hope the people he preyed on are doing as well as they can given the circumstances.
literally same he introduced me to nosleep along with mrcreepypasta and my best friend and i sent his reading of a telltale heart to our 8th grade english teacher bc we were doing a unit on poe at the time :/ it sucks that this guy ended up being such a sicko
I used to watch Cry’s collaborations with PewDiePie and Ken and really enjoyed how fun they were together. I had a feeling Cry had depression or something when watching him, but this is worse. I would be insulting people with depression, including me. It may have some part in it, but it’s definitely not an excuse for grooming minors.
When this came to light, I couldn’t believe it. He seemed so genuine. Awkward, but genuine. I feel bad for PewDiePie, Ken, and everyone who were close to him since they all really loved Cry as a friend and couldn’t imagine him doing these things. Seeing this all come out must have left them heartbroken, frustrated, everything in between.
I might condemn Cry now, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t want him to get help. Though I can’t and never will forgive him, he still can at least attempt to get himself into a better state of mind with some serious therapy.
I can't imagine how they must've felt knowing they were good buddies back then, especially Ken now that he has kids
Imagine Total Biscuit's disappointment and anger if he knew...
Learning about his repeated betrayal and abuse towards Russ, his supposed best friend, was what ultimately angered me. Grooming minors is unacceptable. Betraying the people who're closest to you is unforgivable.
@@sparo_splat Oh, TB was rolling in his grave after all this came out. Oh fuck, think about when Dodger found out…
Pewds and Ken stopped being friends with him a long time ago. A lot of the friendships fell apart years before the confession and pewds even said ppl aren’t always as close as they seem on video.
Cry was probably the only lets player I never outgrew and still kept watching because I found his gameplays chill and relaxing to watch. After finding out what he did, there’s no way in my heart I can watch his content again without feeling sick to my stomach.
same
Same, I grew up watching his videos. I hate how this is the first CZcamsr I looked up to.
When this first happened literally nobody was talking about it. A year later and still people hardly talk about it. Thank you for making this video! I've been waiting too long for this lol
When i was a kid and in a terrible mental state for being SA by my dad, he was my special person and my comfort “character”. Now im all grown up and I know how people are, but my inner child can’t help but to feel completly disolated by this
i hope u feel ok rn
Cry was my first voice crush like I'd openly flirt In his comments and he'd REPLY and it was as a joke but finding out he's a whole ass groomer is shattering to say the least
Certified bruh moment
Damn! You lucky you wouldn’t his next girlfriend
yikes
Omg its good he didn't go after you
There is so much to unpack about this comment I’m not even gonna try. wow
This scandal pretty much hurt pewds personally that he made the painful choice to leave his best friend when that video drop. Now only Ken and Pewds collab and never mention cry like he never exist. The bitter way to end the trio
It hurt...
What? He hasnt even made a collabe with cry since 2014
Dude, they didn't collab since 2014 or so, pewds spoke about why they don't collab anymore in 2017 or so, from what we gathered it was because their vibe changed and so on. It is messed up to know that a person that one collabed with got into this sh*t, but no, they weren't close friends when scandal happened.
I think they realize that talking about him would give him a platform and a chance to be discovered by new kids
@@ingridrodriguez1154 well he doesn't make videos or anything anymore
Cry was someone I really someone I genuinely looked up to. I was devastated that he turned out this way. But I'm glad that he's been exposed and he's no longer able to use his platform to hurt minors.
I feel absolutely awful for Russ, it was very difficult for him and I remember watching his stream after the fall out, it was the first time I had ever heard Russ be sad and it absolutely broke my heart, I know he went through alot of shit and absolutely didnt deserve anything that cry did to him
I remember watching Cry play one of my all time favorite games, 'Rule of Rose'. I was a huge fan of this because the community is very small for this fandom and the game is almost completely ghosted, yet at the time he brought so much light upon it and made me love the franchise (which I still do YEARS after). Skipping forward a couple of years, I remember thinking of him randomly one day and searching to see if there were any news on why him and Pewds no longer stream and talk, just to be met with disappointment. I saw that the two kinda branched their ways and dropped the topic. Few months from then, on my youtube timeline, I accidentally stumble upon a video calling Cry out for grooming and pedophilia and my mouth HIT THE FLOOR. I can not emphasize enough how sad and confused I was, yet seeing his video did not make my opinion any better. I sad down with myself and genuinely had a depressing episode over the situation, because I remember him finishing off my favorite gameplay series drunk and singing one of my all time favorite songs.. I'm 20 now and still cannot get over how horrible this is, how differently I perceive people and that, truly, no one can be fully trusted. Never get too attached to a youtuber, kids. You never know how they are behind the scenes.
Man Cry introduced me to Rule of Rose, Vampire the Masquerade, and was my go-to for TellTale games. This whole thing hurt like nobody’s business
@@HelplessFangirl LITERALLY!! This hurt so badly because most franchises didn't have big fanbases to begin with. This will forever hurt like a bitch..
I will admit he showed me to Rule of Rose's, and I love the game so much. But I came back to it yeara later and I swear I remember he crapped on the game or really gave up at the end or something. Like he did it drunk or so? I could be misremembering. I used to really love his stuff and it hurts what he did.
@@jjmara01 In all honesty I was so disappointed when he decided to finish the series drunk, yet I could somewhat understand since the controls and everything are SO bad it's hard to play the game. Yet I was looking forward to the finale and he completely shitted it for me, yet at the time I was just a kid so I didn't know better.
@@IsitHendrick Same for me. Like...I get it, but also the game is so fucking amazing outside of the gameplay. Like if he gave respect to the game, even if the game is...not the best, I am sure he would have loved it too. Rule of Roses is a game that needs a remaster/remake, since they can fix the bad pretty easily and it would maybe be a classic...but who knows.
cry got me into rpgmaker games, and hearing the news was a massive gut punch.
oh well. at least i have manlybadasshero.
same, i haven't heard his name in a long time. i used to listen to his playlist "cry reads" and would keep up on his uploads about it. it's sad that he turned out like this.
also, ayeee mbh fan. nice
i like his content and humor a lot ((voice too--
Let’s hope that Manly DOESN’T JINX IT!
I ADORE MANLY
I used to watch another RPGmaker CZcamsr named Davey (forgot his full channel name). Unfortunately he too quit due to RL stuff. So only Manly and other small channels are our hope for the let's play now.
MBH is my fav!
I am in such a state of shock right now. I had absolutely no idea why Cry had stopped making videos and thought it was just cause he got caught up in general life difficulties that come with being older. Thank you so much for making this video otherwise I'd have absolutely no idea!!!
I got introduced to Cry via PewDiePie way back in the early 2010's when I was like 12-13 and I immediately jumped onto his stuff. He was very calm and had a pleasant voice to listen to, often times I fell asleep listening to his stuff because of my anxiety. Not to mention he played a lot of games that weren't as mainstream or at least that not many that people played at the time. I remember watching his Neir:Automata stuff back in highschool and I even introduced my younger friends who also had anxiety to his stuff, which makes me absolutely sick thinking about it now.
I haven't really connected to a lot of all this CZcams drama stuff that has been recently coming out mainly cause I really only feel connected to a *very few* number of creators, but yeah Cry was one of them. He was one of my very first comfort CZcamsrs and the fact that he's done something like this is so disgusting.
That girl was barely a year or two older than I was. I can't possible imagine how confused she was and still probably is given how much she tried to defend him. I hope she's in a better headspace now and that Cry gets what he rightfully deserves. Truly disgusting and upsetting. I mean really how hard is it to just *not.*
P.s if you want something that's similar to Cry, I'd suggest ManlyBadassHero. His stuff is similar enough and he even got that monotone voice down pact. He plays a lot of the lesser known stuff and is quite frankly hilarious plus he also tends to complete the entire game for all you completionist's out there.
Yeah I was a fellow 9 year old back in 2012, I watched pewdiepie mainly but never really cared for Cry. Crazy to see how this happened.
it’s crazy that i recognize every clip in this video. i watched him when he was still “chaoticmonki” i can’t lie, it broke my heart when i found out about this. to think i was supporting this kind of individual since i was a middle schooler… makes me sick.
It was honestly one of the hardest things to watch happen. Cry was someone I watched almost religiously from 7th grade to sophomore year in high school and to know someone who seemed so nice and "wholesome" was a complete scumbag is just unreal. Worst part of it all is still how dirty Russ was done, that man deserves everything after this and I hope he gets it along with the girls because Cry was a real piece of actual garbage for this. To This day I can't bring myself to ever even look up his playthroughs that once were like a tradition to watch because it's all just ruined.
It just goes to show that you can’t really gauge someone’s actual personality just by watching what they make online. The internet is a really thick mask that any content creator can wear in order to be perceived in the way they want to be perceived by their audience. I think it’s alright to enjoy the content that someone posts online, but there should be some kind of definite boundary between a content creator and their audience. Even more so, when their identity is unknown.
That's the stuff though, most abusers tend to wear the mask of "kind, wholesome fellow" to deceive people into trusting them. Much like a Venus flytrap attracts prey into its mouth with its sugary sap.
When we think of someone who abuses people, we still have this mustache twirling, shifty looking, obviously smooth talking individual that media has hammered into us, and tend to take "niceness" at face value, even when they're virtually strangers to us.
"This person couldn't possibly hurt me, they're too nice"
We still dont understand in our culture that usually, murderers, pedophiles and rapists are never just some faceless evil doers that randomly decided to target someone because their hearts are black. No, most of the time they're people we thought we knew all along, sometimes they're friends, or family, or neighbors and throughout the years they earned our trust, waiting for us to drop our guard.
Always be aware of the strangers you surround yourself with. Pay attention to their actions and what they say, if someone's gives off an odd vibe or makes you uncomfortable, is not impolite to look after yourself. Be respectful, but always keep your guard up.
Once you become an adult, the only person able to protect you is yourself.
@@Homodemon Very well said!
@@Homodemonexpertly put! Well said.
10:51 I like how at this part you’re talking about cheating, and the game in the background is catherine, a game where the plot is about relationships and cheating lol
That's some attention to detail.
Kind of gross and shitty for Scott and the rest of the crew to be like "him sexting with minors wasn't enough for me to stop being friends with him and publicly call him out"
Even thinking about Cry feels so empty now. I first found him during his Corpse Party let’s play and fell in love with the persona after watching Façade. I’m still hurt and angry about what he did and I don’t think I could ever watch him if he tried to come back, not in good conscience. I guess it’s good he’s just… begun to fade from the internet’s memory.
Anyone else think some of Cry’s old depictions in human form look like dream?
Dream probably stole the look from him, or was at least heavily inspired by it.
I thought the same thing I thought Dream was Cry cause of the looks
I thought it was shaggy pretending to be dream
not only do they look nearly identical, their Twitter handles and names are very similar. "Cry" "Dream" both one word names and the twitter handles are "Dreamwastaken" and "Crywastaken"
A lot of people like to bring up how it's legal in this place or that place but we need to both remember and understand, that it doesn't make it right and the legal age of consent is for teens to make decisions for themselves it's not there for creeps to use as a guideline
Especially when it comes to the Romeo and Juilet laws, I've seen a lot of people use that as well...it's creepy how far they'll go to defend their heroes. It makes sense in hindsight, ig.
@@chromerotica i mean what do you expect, it was only a few decades ago that intimate relationships with
TW: Something people don’t talk about very often is during some point, as a victim of abuse and/or r*pe, you feel completely betrayed, especially if you were a child at the time, to know that people knew what was going on or had a hunch that something bad was going on and did absolutely NOTHING. Cry’s friends should have reported him to the police or found a way to contact the victim(s) or their families, as soon as they had suspicions or allegations came forward.
This !
Actually one of the girls parents knew apparently and did care
Apparently, that's exactly what they were doing. Around the time of the confession video, Snake had an entire dossier that he sent to investigators-that's why Cry finally admitted to it publicly: he knew his time had finally run out and he thought he could get ahead of the news and control the narrative like Cosmodore.
I did want to point out that Tobuscus didnt exactly fade into obscurity. He also lost a lot of viewership when it came to light a former girlfriend (i think? Maybe it was a friend. It's been a minute)had been SA by him. As well as his rampant drug and alcohol problems that made other CZcamsrs avoid him like the plague
Out if all the exposed predators this one hurt alot cause I grew up watching his shit he seemed like a genuinely good guy but that video was like a huge blow to how I perceive people
I hate what happened with Cry. I never knew much of the details of the allegations, but I hate that it happened. He seemed just like a cool guy with a cool voice. Its so weird seeing these content creators losing their careers messing with minors over and over again.
What?
@@frandavis1990 How much clearer do I have to be ? Or can you just not read ?
*Me sad that many favorite content creators and celebrities turn into pedos over and over.*
That clear enough for you ?
OK let me clear up what that guy meant, u said that u hate what happened to cry, that sounds like your saying u hate he was exposed, cry is a peice of crap who does not deserve sympathy, word stuff better next time and don't be a dick
@@damo.r Not his fault he read that the wrong way lol
@@MercuriYT fairs lmao
This still makes me feel like crying. Hearing that voice at the start of the video made me teary eyed. He was just so important to me during some of the hardest times of my life. It still sucks man.
womp womp
He was also my comfort video. I just knew about it as I haven’t been following his content. So disappointing 😔
I loved Cryaotic but as a victim of very similar circumstances 3 times before I turned 16, without as much of a power imbalance (age is one, but they weren't popular or anything) it hurts me how normalised this is & that he did this.
In the UK especially where 16 is actually of legal age, it's super common for 20+ year old men to think it's okay to date young like this because it's legal, without realising the potential for damage to the young girls... or actively taking advantage of their age because damaged women find it harder to leave.
The age of consent is the age at which a minor can legally consent to sexual contact. Some adults, who are Hebephiles and Ephebophiles, see that as the age at which they can start having sexual contact with minors.
Ugh this one stung, He was literally My favorite childhood CZcamsr...
A lot of people talk about how this was the one that finally broke them and made them stop idolizing youtubers, but for me it’s not that I idolized them, I always kept in mind that they are humans just like all of us and can make mistakes and aren’t these untouchable godly figures. For me it was that I stopped assuming they were good people. Beforehand I would just give the benefit of the doubt and assume until hearing otherwise that someone I was a fan of was a good person. Now, unfortunately, I have to assume everyone is or has done something terrible so that I can’t be surprised or let down anymore when ultimately I find out that they are racist or homophobic or pedophilic. It’s kind of depressing, but too many cases have occurred where it turns out someone was actually a terrible person or doing terrible things all along. It’s just easier now to assume from the start that everyone has probably done something I’m not okay with and will eventually let me down.
Well said.
People are people and everyone has done something terrible. The only difference is what the general public may measure how terrible it is overall. But if someone has given you hope, motivation, or even a tiny bit of happiness then I say hold on to those feelings. Yes they did some terrible things but that shouldn't mean everything else they have done that isn't terrible should be discounted or tossed.
I just hope that he is getting the help he needs and can move on with his own life by learning the mistakes he has done.
Yes, same! Any time I feel myself getting too much into a new person, I have to check myself
Very well said. 2016 was the year I lost trust in everything and expected nothing but the worse. Since then, it hasn’t come as any form of surprise when creator, celebrities, influencers, etc were outed as predators, racists, etc.
@@ArtairMcKinley For me it was 2020. Cemented in 2021.
I felt so betrayed when I found out about this. I would literally wait for his videos bc I refused to experience video games with any other youtuber. His voice and laugh was such a comfort for me but now I just cringe. It's so disgusting and sad, but I'm glad it's out and he won't be hurting anyone else.
"it wasn't worth our careers & friendships" the priorities of these people
I remember watching Cry's Too the Moon and then his Walking Dead Season 1 series and a cancelled fan project. He got way too serious later on but those were good old times that got me through my last year of school then college. How the mighty have fallen.
Too serious how?
I know. When the 3rd Freebirds series cane out I immediately felt bad because I couldn't watch him play it after following the games on his channel for years.
I used to watch this guy since I was 16 years old. Hurts to see this revealed about people I basically grew up watching. Nothing from my childhood and teen years was safe. It's all tainted
I haven’t heard his voice since this all came out in 2020. It made me happy/sad. I look back and think of all the videos I watched with bittersweetness now.
I watched his content for 10yrs. Spent all my holidays with his livestreams. I am empty. There is a hole he left in a lot of us.
This whole situation was such a huge blow that I still can't get over. He was a part of my life for such a long time and honestly watched most of his stuff for him. This betrayal is one I can never forget and forgive....
Man. This dude was one of my favorites back in the day. Now. I just feel sick
LOL!
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Very True!
Why is it all the youtubers I practically grew up with ended up being disgusting people(Cry, Mini Ladd, Ryan Haywood from achievement hunter, theres probably more I'm forgetting about but watched)
What'd Ryan Haywood do?
@@knes167 oof. Basically the same sort of stuff... should watch the video about him.
Also yeah I know. I started watching him after I discovered youtube. I mean I remmeber when the first pews and cry collab dropped. I even started getting my music taste from him after looking up one of the songs int the outro to his "valiant hearts" walkthrough. I was bbfa with somebody because she also watched his content. I dropped off after hearing about the Russ gf drama but seeing that video come out was a final goodbye to his content.
Power corrupts
literally when Dream first came on the scene I thought it was just Cry rebranded. I feel like they might be on similar trajectories.
can’t believe this came up on my explore. was just looking back on cry the other day. 2015ish i was obsessed with cry. i drew sm fanart, watched his streams, and talked to so many people in the fandom that i still talk to. i eventually fell out of it but i would still check in and watch if there was a game i was interested in. i was absolutely crushed when everything came out and so angry at him. it’s insane considering a huge part of his lps was him doing the nice ending esp ones where you take care of young girls. super gross in retrospect.
Bro I can’t get over at how in depth and well edited all your videos are. You’re a goat youtuber bro!
😎😎 thanks
I used to love his playthrough of the first walking dead, felt nice seeing him get invested and really care as much as I did. Totally forgot he existed until I saw this video. Now that part of my teen years is ruined.
I remember watching them back in the 2010s or something,
I enjoyed watching him play with PewDiePie while sitting in my parents bathroom, afraid of being caught by my parents with the swearing.
Hearing and seeing about cryaotic’s actions heavily made me feel betrayed and hell I felt so guilty for watching him over the years after what he did to those who were harmed by him. My condolences out to the victims that are recovering. It is rough seeing CZcamsrs you know going down the rabbit hole of grooming and such. Hell, I made my characters mask inspired by him, but I am not relating myself to him. Cry was my favourite but now I just feel upset. Hopefully this comes out right.
I wondered what happened to Cry but I never bothered looking him up cause I didn’t wanna ruin the idea of nostalgia I had. But this video was absolutely eye opening.
Ah man, this one still made me salty to this day. Cry was one of my faves back then and to learn that he sucks just soured most of my childhood. I'm still thankful I got to know Fragile Dreams from the guy tho, it's a beautiful game
Same. For some reason Fragile Dreams was my favorite series that he played. For a few years I wanted to rewatch it but never got around to it. Now this happened and I can't bring myself to do it
Cry went the Darkcry route... and then the Mini Ladd route...
I used to love his lets play's and loved his voice. Hearing the news made me feel like my stomach dropped. I was crushed and got a little depressed. I remember having a crush on his voice and a small part of me (that I hate) still likes his voice.
I can't forgive him for what he's done but I do admit that he needs help. I hope he gets that help.
In times like this it helps to separate the creator and the character. I like cry the character but not the real cry because we never truly knew who he was in real life. It sucks really. I still want to go back and watch my favorite lets plays of his but I just get this sick feeling and a sense of betrayal. I want to enjoy what I used to enjoy but now it's tainted so I have to separate the two people or else I'll just get depressed.
I don't even know if I'm allowed to cope this way. I hate what he did too but I still want to keep that small part of me that isn't tainted by the other shit I had to go through while I used his videos as comfort. I want to keep the positive memories of comfort in my mind, like watching a show with a character you like but in reality would not accept. It sucks a lot, especially when I keep seeing the minecraft Dream youtuber which people draw the same as Cry fanart. It makes a small part of me feel fondness then sadness. It doesn't change, I see cry first and I hate the fondness I still have for him. I feel like I should hate him more but instead I just feel empty and disappointed. I guess we all cope and process tragedy differently.
At least his character helped me feel like I wasn't alone when I was depressed, knowing someone like him was depressed made me feel better when I was suicidal and being bullied. That is the past that cannot change, it helped me back then but now I'm glad I found other more positive things to help me keep going.
What I think is heartbreaking is that I remember watching this man since I was 12. That I remember that after a while of not watching him I searched him and found this out. It is literally SO EASY to NOT get into a relationship with a minor and to not cheat. Honestly I think I can speak for the old OG fans of his (maybe even the new ones) that this whole situation is so very very disappointing and disgusting. His voice used to be so comforting and now its just a remnant of what once used to be. All of it is very sad. I wish his victims well and that they are able to heal.
I simped hard over cry when I was like 12 but completely forgot his existence until I first heard about this lol. Pedophilia is common with people who are powerful in some way or want to become powerful. I don’t know if it’s a wantingcontrol/lack of self control thing or what but it just seems a lot of people weren’t built to gain fame.
Predators will often seek positions of power to find/control victims.
I watched Cry for so long growing up. I had a not so great childhood and dealt with a lot of emotional and physical abuse from my mother. Watching Cry play video games with his calm voice which was the opposite of the screams of my parents helped me so much. I loved his positive messages and it quite literally saved me one time when I was contemplating doing something really bad to myself. I managed to escape out of my household to my grandparents and stopped watching for a while due to the troubles that followed after I moved out, but one day when things were overwhelming me again, I went back to his channel and saw that goddamn apology video. I was so fucking confused. I wanted to believe him at first. I thought it was impossible for someone who had helped me so much to be someone evil. I thought it was a mistake for sure! It had to be! There was no way he was like my parents. There was no way.......but the longer I sat there and after replaying the video a couple of times, I just felt overwhelmingly sicker and sicker. I can't even hear snippets of his voice anymore without those fucking misearble memories of that time flooding my brain again. I hate seeing his name. I hate when his song with booyinaband pops up in my head. God I hate living in this world sometimes. Fuck him.
Chill out
I absolutely adored cry back in like 2014 or 2015. I thought he was hilarious, his videos felt so comforting, and his voice was just so attractive to me. It hurts to know how all of this has ended. And it hurts to know he wasn’t who we thought he was.
I wish there were stricter rules if someone wants to be a content creator. Because when Cry was exposed, so many other’s were exposed as well.
Like how hard it is to date someone in your age group????
As someone who was groomed and manipulated as a minor but luckily got out of it quickly, I tell younger folks in this situation or who could potentially end up in this situation: Ask yourself why this adult can’t/doesn’t hang out with people their own age or seek a romantic/sexual interest their own age. Why would they go through the much harder process of getting and connecting with you, a minor? Why would they seek out a minor in the first place? Why would they continue to pursue you as an adult after knowing your age? If they say things like “You are mature for your age,” why are they not seeking that maturity in someone older?
@@ladynoluck Hey so my twin brother is 17, and currently dating a 22 year old, and she's really manipulative but I don't think he realises it himself. She has no friends of her age either. Do you have any tips on how to help my brother realise that it's an unhealthy relationship? Like what things can I do to help him...
(I have told him straight up. and they almost broke up when my brother couldn't visit her because of quarantaine, and he realised that she's a bad person, but yet he keeps hanging out with her
The freaky part is that she's a kindergarten teacher 💀
I can give you two major reasons, power over that person and desire for sex. They go to these minors NOT out of wanting companionship or EVEN A REAL romantic relationship but to manipulate them and control, dominate and coerced them into sex. The fact they go to minors says a lot why is that can't go to people who are their own age, they're inadequacies, insecurities, emotional and mental issues make them so vulnerable that any "adult" sees they would be mocked, ridiculed and possibly manipulated too. Adding with some "potential narcissism" and "take it or be taken" mindset, is it no wonder why they would target children(very weak and vulnerable)? You can use this same analogy on abusive parents, "bad friends", authority figures or ever workplaces and other institutions (in a wider social sense of course) this whole thing reeks with control freaks and downright creepy wannabe tyrants. I'm sorry that was I've going way too long on this, when I saw this video and read your comment it's gave good question on this subject and I felt that I should try my own educated guess find this growing problem I'm not just this site but most social media. If you can give your own thoughts please give me reply it's the least I can do for making you reading all this. Again sorry.😉
@@Fleurig-xr5mm That... is not good. I am not a professional, but I feel like maybe try and somehow get some evidence of what you think is manipulative, and then ask a professional "Hey, are these red flags?". Again, not a professional, so I'd ask someone more qualified on what to do, but that's just kinda what came to mind for me.
@@LowIntSpecimen Well I have good news, they broke up yesterday after dating 3 months. She still doesn't accept it but my brother is done with her!
I was sad at first about hearing what he did because I used to look up to him, and then remembered, I was 13/14 at the time, I could've perfectly been a victim if he somehow contacted me, and now I feel disgusted and angry. He's a horrible person, I hope he seeks help, but I also hope he never returns to the internet.
He most likely will return they always do
Cryotic was always an inspiration for me to create and not be insecure about how I present my humor. But somehow, overnight, when i was 18 after not seeing his content for a long long time. It's scary how a lot of people who I loved growing up turn out to be sexual predators. Its... Its saddening yet crazy.
As much as the things he did to the minors was abhorrent but what he did fo his streamer group was horrid and terrible.
I dont know why, out of all people, Felix and Ken have never addressed it or mentioned it. Unless he has between then and how I wouldn't know about it.
Pewds offhandedly talked about cry in a stream but it was apparent that he was uncomfortable and didn't wanna talk about it. I get it. They were friends after all.
Don't idolize anyone, because the only person you truly I know is yourself
I NEVER knew about this. I stopped watching him ages ago, so I've been blissfully unaware. It's so sad to find this out and it's even more tragic to see very dedicated fans so heartbroken.
Me yesterday: "what ever happened to cry?"
CZcams recommend: "here you go"
CZcams is always listening
@@BillsYT the crazy thing is I never said it out loud
Over the years, different CZcamsrs I used to watch have been exposed to be not so great people, and obviously it would suck, but none of them hurt like Cryaotic did.
I used to be SUCH a huge fan of Cry during my teenage years. I even stayed up/woke up early to watch his streams, which for me in Europe, started at 5am. He introduced me to some of my favourite games ever, like Ace Attorney and Okami. When everything went down last year, I really couldn't watch any of the videos talking about it, and had to hear from another friend (who also used to be a huge fan) what exactly happened. Even now, watching this video, I had to pause multiple times because I felt myself getting so incredibly upset.
I think I was around 12 when I first became a fan of his, and of course at that age you're much more naive, but the internet was also a much different place. I'm 19 now and due to all of the exposés that have happened through the years, I'm much more wary of how creators aren't always who they say they are.
Cry left a massive wound in my trust of creators, maybe for the better, but it still fucking hurts.
Ngl ever since this news dropped I haven't watched a single cryaotic video, so it's been about a year and some change.
With that being said, hearing his voice at the start just jarred me. It sucks that it will never hit the same as it did I'm 2016.
Cryaotic was one of my first childhood CZcams's caught in a bad scandal and I can only hope the other CZcamsrs I watch alot don't get caught up in stuff similar.
I met Cry on PlayStation in 2012 because of an online COD match. He seem friendly enough and introduced me to his and Felix’s videos. We’d played hours of COD, Gmod, and Portal together and became really close. I never really told my parents of me and Crys friendship cuz at the time I was 13 and he was 22. I noticed Cry started getting really protective over me, anytime I mentioned a boy (or girl since at the time I was coming out as bisexual, now a bisexual trans guy). It was weird but he always said he seen me as a younger sibling so I just assumed he was just being an overprotective “older brother”. Later on in our friendship he started making sly remarks about my appearance. Saying stuff like “he wish I was older” and things along those lines. He never went too far with it but enough for me to start straying away around the age of 15. We had one last convo before we cut ties and he was offended that I was not comfortable with the way he was talking to me. I’m 23 now and have not heard from him since. I often thought about him growing up and in a way kind of missed him. Watching this video tho I’m glad we parted ways when we did because god knows what kind of trauma he would of put me through if I let him.
dodged a major bullet there but i hope your doing okay now
Sounds like a made up story
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What a made up story lol
I remember that when Cry announced he was dating Chey thinking it was weird as I had read that she was under 18, but the fact that the rest of the crew were fine with it made me think it was okay. Then I remember after they broke up I remember the crew mentioning that Chey had been the abusive one in the relationship. Again I thought it was strange, but I relied on Cry's videos to get through uni so I ignored it.
When the whole story came out I was really confused about what to do as this was a CZcamsr whose videos I relied on to get through life. I watched a couple of his videos, and then decided I couldn't no longer. I was really heartbroken as when I was younger I was groomed myself. I feel like I should have known the signs better.
Man I remember making a comment on his video, calling out people who were overly obsessed with just his voice and not treating him as just a regular person. Got "ass-blasted" by fans and kinda stopped watching his stuff after he took multiple "hiatuses". Then I sort of noticed what his audience was primarily of. Teens. Granted, I was around that age range too but I was growing distant with his stuff.
Don't excuse this as sympathizing. Even as a teen, I felt jaded around his later videos. Mid 2010's. As if something was off. I couldn't place it. Then he just shut himself off with his friends and Pewdiepie. Now it kinda makes sense.
Yeah, I was always creeped out by his fans. Some of the comments were so obsessed with him. Finding out he's a predator just makes it even worse knowing that he might have been looking for potential victims in the comments.
Sigh. Another day, another streamer exposed for being a groomer. WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING.
These kinds of professions attract these kinds of people. And once a charismatic person realizes their charisma... well, it doesn't take long before they are tempted to use it in less-than-moral ways.
That's probably as polite as I can be when discussing people who are like that.
Because filthy oppertunistic creeps know that little girls aren't very smart or bright or lack the cognitive understanding to not prusue a creep with status. The status is gold to little girls, they want it by association and they don't have the mind to care if it's dangerous nor manipulative until it's too late.
I hate how his friends didn't say or do anything. They didn't stop being friends with him. They didn't tell anyone. They didn't even call him out, the "giving him sh*t" isn't good enough. The fact they let him do all that, speaks volumes about what kind of people they are. No better, at all.
To be fair, Pewds and Ken dumped him and never touched his name or content again. Most of the big names threw him in the trash and carried on.
you do realize they were very small creators, right? dropping their entire friendship off one (albeit extremely problematic) thing would have costed most, if not all of them their careers, and left them scrambling to figure out what to do to not end up on the streets. cry had an extreme amount of power over them; and he knew it, and abused it. blaming his friends for not sacrificing their careers over his actions is completely unfair, as they were being abused by him in an entirely different way. cry is solely at fault here. he hurt these victims, and, although maybe not entirely on purpose, forced his friends to stay quiet about it, because his career going down would subsequently turn their lives upside down. the fact that they all ended everything as soon as they learned of all the victims, that it was much more than that one time in 2011, and did not defend a single action of his, is plenty enough to show their character. they didn't "let him" do anything, because to them it was a one time thing, they chewed him out for it, and that was that. not wanting to sacrifice something as important as a career, especially with how much smaller they all were in 2011, is entirely understandable. please consider the entire picture.
I disagree with the "No better, at all" line. If you lump together truly aweful people, moderately awful people and inactive people you are inadvertently defending the truly awful. Not even talking about the Cry situation here, it is generally bad practice.
they actualy werent friends , just work colleagues
They didn't want to lose their jobs and become homeless. And when they found out about all the victims, and they cut all ties. It wasn't a black and white situation so it's not fair to lump them with Cry.
He got me through the passing of my brother, I was 14 when I rewatched his vampire the Masquerade play through I remember locking myself up and just watching his videos, his voice was so calming I could fall asleep to it. When he posted his apology video I understood what he was saying but I didn’t want to believe it, I started to cry I went to twitter he had a stream the same day he posted his apology he canceled but then did the stream anyway but it ended early I remember seeing on his twitter that he was gonna make a full apology video on that made more sense, reading the comments in twitter hurt even more because this stranger helped me get past the worse time of my life and knowing what he did make me so sick so upset so angry. It just shows that we truly don’t know who is actually behind the screen and what he did can be undone but because of the fact he was a faceless creator he doesn’t have to deal with the consequences but it will bite him harder then even and I hope it does, my heart goes out to the victims they didn’t deserve what he did to them they were children he wasn’t he knew what he was doing
Man learning about this crushed me pretty hard. I really liked his content. Then 2020 comes round during some of the worst time of my life. This was just another layer on my shit sandwich and it just keeps getting bigger.
This comment section is not like typical comment sections where a youtuber is outed in something like this. Typically people go straight to criticizing but here everyone just feels betrayed. Tons of people grew up with him including me and felt attached. Lesson learned.
cry introduced me to corpse party, which to this day, is one of my favorite video games ever. i wanted to rewatch it, but when his video first came out, i was in shock. i couldn’t believe it. i cant even bring myself to watch any of his videos after this. i felt sort of betrayed, if that makes sense. i’m ashamed of him and it’s just sad that people to this day *still* support him even after what he has done.
I felt the same way about Undertale, his was my very favourite player of that back in the day. It's so sad.
This one hurts. He was one of the first who got me interested in the gaming side of CZcams. Was so heartbroken when this all first came out. It’s good to see someone finally talking about it. His “apology” was pathetic
I found Cry in his early years on CZcams. I found him when I was at a HORRIBLE spot in life. Whenever I was feeling suicidal, or numb, or just completely broken, I'd turn to his videos, because somehow they always made me smile and laugh... When he posted that video, I was horrified... I was raped as a child, and also as an adult. I cried for days after this.
I will never forgive him. Yes, I hope he fixes himself, but I will never look at him the same or support him like I use to.
Please don't support people you've never really met in real life and not got to know properly, that's a parasocial relationship and that's not good at all. There's a lot they can hide, their online persona is anything they say, makes it really easy to manipulate people's perceptions, while in real life, you know something's wrong with them usually the moment you meet them. Just enjoy the video and move on.
@@applepie9806 ??? Your reply is kinda abstract, what about politicians?? Should you not support them even if some of them share the same value as yours?
@@applepie9806 easy to say, not to do
That "Limelight" song makes so much sense now. In a weird, bad way.
ayo, I'm in premier chat right now, and I'm so hyped for this video.
Good for you
remembering him always gives me a heavy feeling, I always adored him when I was younger, I’ve always watched during those pewdiepie and cry collabs :( and I watched so many playthroughs of his, his walking dead and last of us playthroughs were my personal favorites, I miss him so much but I know things won’t go back to the way it was :( he really isn’t who I thought he was, what I miss is the persona he made up, it’s really devastating
Last I checked he did upload a follow-up apology video, but it's unlisted. You can still find it though and it's a couple hours long.
I miss cry so much. I used to fall asleep to his voice every night in middle school. The fact that he turned out to be a monster makes me feel disgusting. I'll always have his voice stuck in my head.
can 100% relate. back in middle school i was going through an overwhelming amount of mental issues but always watched crys playthroughs because they calmed me down and id often fall asleep to his vids bc his voice was so soothing to me. now just hearing his voice makes me stressed ;-; i wanna say i miss him but i think i just miss the person that i thought he was ya know?
Thanks for this vid homie, it's greatly appreciated.
Sadly, I was one of those people who were on his side once he posted that video, but I've had some time to really think things through.
The harsh reality I came to was that even your idols, the people whom you most look up to, can be one of the most horrible people on this planet.
It hurts, but it's true.
It's best to acknowledge the problem, turn you back to the issue, no matter how hard it may be, and archive the good times within your mind, because, as an audience, we can't really do much in a situation like this.
It's sad, but it's true.
My heart goes out to the victims of these incidents. Those who were hurt and betrayed, and those who felt utterly heartbroken from everything from this.
Please, look to the future, and as I said before, if you wish, keep the good times within your memories, though sometimes they are bittersweet, they were still good times.
Stay healthy, mentally and physically my friends, and keep your head up high.
There are bad times, naturally, but there are great times to look forward to as well.
Live well and stay safe.
The best of luck to every single one of you.
Love you guys.
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This is so heartbreaking. When I found out I felt like this comfort I felt as a child growing up was all a lie. When I was young, I lost my father and that led to a plethora of mental health issues including insomnia. I would go deep into the night and fall asleep to his voice on nights I probably would not have slept at all. It's kinda sickening because I associate his content with so much comfort that listening to his voice calms me down even now after all he's done. This was so deeply disappointing and crushing. Being underaged and listening to him on nights where I thought life was too scary because I was a lonely grieving child with a family dealing with the same loss I was dealing with, it felt like I had a kind voice to comfort me while everyone else was dealing with their own demons. To have that voice become corrupted now as I am an adult, knowing full well that there is no world in which I could even fathom doing this to kids- because teenagers are kids and maybe they're in taller bodies but they're kids -and that any adult that takes advantage of kids is absolutely evil, it feels like a violation. I can't imagine how the victims are feeling.