Say Hello to My Little Rack!
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
- 10" mini racks are awesome-at least I think so! DeskPi just launched a new line of 10" gear perfect for smaller portable equipment or homelabs, and I'm loading one up with my Pi clusters!
Disclaimer: DeskPi sent me the RackMate T1, and MyElectronics sent me the two Mini ITX cluster cases (though I purchased the Pi cluster, Pis, and Turing Pi 2 that I fitted inside!).
Things I mentioned in this video (some links are affiliate links):
- Setting up the Turing Pi 2 + RK1 cluster (video): • Meet the new SBC Linux...
- DeskPi RackMate T1 (US): amzn.to/44dfYww
- DeskPi RackMate T1 (UK): www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CS6MHCY8
- Deskpi RackMate T1 (DE/EU): www.amazon.de/dp/B0CS6MHCY8
- MyElectronics single ITX rackmount enclosure: www.myelectronics.nl/us/10-in...
- MyElectronics dual ITX rackmount enclosure: amzn.to/3UxidYa
- DeskPi Super6C: amzn.to/3UuBLMW
- Turing Pi 2: turingpi.com/product/turing-p...
- Turing RK1: turingpi.com/product/turing-r...
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Contents:
00:00 - RackMate T1
03:10 - Turing Pi 2 IO Shield
05:25 - DeskPi Super6C Cluster
07:54 - Things get wild on the 3rd channel
08:15 - Patch panel and 1U dual SBC mount
12:33 - A Tiny Homelab - Věda a technologie
"cosplaying as a sysadmin".... ahahahaha......
I even have a shirt for that! Over on redshirtjeff.com... but pro tip, I'll be updating the store soon, so hold off until the nicer newer shirts are available!
That was awesome! Thanks for the content.
*I feel personally attacked!*
No lies detected though 😂
That line cracked me up!
@@Level2Jeff we'll be waiting 👀
The rubber mounts for the Noctua fan, connects the hard plastic from the fan, with the metal, without transfering noise as a screw would do.
I've been running a 6U 10 inch rack for a couple of years now. Outside of a 1U patch panel, every single thing I mounted in it required me to either design and 3d print my own rack ears, or, in the case of my own Turing Pi 2, 3d print the entire 2U case. It's great to see the 10 inch form factor seeing some development.
The wide range of models for 3d printing is the biggest advantage of a 10" rack.
A shelf from Amazon with a 3d printed front combines the best of both worlds.
@Spazzmoticus Do you happen to have your Turing Pi 2 STLs anywhere public? Or know of a good place to find any?
Another practical use for 10” networking gear is it fits well in structured media cabinets that are inset between wall studs.
“3rd channel gets wild.” 😂
Even though Noctua has rubber on the corners the screws thread directly into the main plastic body. That doesn't really stop vibration transfer but the stretchy mounting "pins" do. So unless I'm not mistaken the built-in isolators only work if the fan is held in without screws, like maybe the spring clips found on some tower CPU coolers.
Ahhhh... that actually makes sense!
A more reliable way of doing that (because those rubber mounters can sustain maybe 3 removals before the top part snaps off the main body.) would be using a bolt with rubber washers on both sides, so you're clamping the screw where it should be but it's decoupled from the screw in the contact points. Another solution someone tried was a 3D printed fan shroud around 4mm thick made of flexible material that goes in front of the fan and it has similar results.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino You really would want tophat-shaped washers (or grommets) to ensure the screw doesn't touch the frame.
@@eDoc2020 You could use a smaller bolt which doesn't require being fastened on the fan body.
Beat me to it! Very true, the screw will transfer vibrations from the fanhousing to the case.
Would love some high-end hardware in this 10" enclosure format. Very cool!
I'd be so down to combine 2 of those mini ITX boxes into one taller one and build my PC in it. Would fit in perfectly between the 3D printers.
The bumpers on the fans help with Calculating Llama Expectoration Trajectories. The rubber Bumpers in the box help with Reticulating splines. Its hard to beat SimCity without them 😶
10" rack format could be good for an 'on the go' Peli case. Kind of like a flight case, but smaller.
I like this small rack's form factor. If you can build a sufficient cluster of nodes and storage in it, you could just pack it with camping gear and use portable solar panels to power it/a power pack to power it. I'm also thinking of it as a "go-bag" for tech archival. Like if your house has a disaster and all you can grab are essentials, this rack could be that essential item you can grab which has digital versions of all your family photos, etc.
Hmm... now you have me thinking about whether it'd be good to design a 4 or 6 HDD disk shelf for the mini rack!
@@Level2Jeffa mini itx board (or pi) with an HBA in 1-2u and then a 10” JBOD below it would be so cool. I really hope we see a 10” UPS made (or diy-Ed)
Why would you take a server rack to a camping trip? Other than unhealthy obsession ofc
@@ultravioletiris6241 Movie night while away? Or just as a "go-bag" in case of disaster / apocalypse.
I started making my own 10in rack mount with my printer and 2020 extrusions based off a 6in rack from Kron something on thingiverse. I halted my development as 3D modeling everything to put in the 10in rack was a lot and I eventually outgrew my use cases for it. I did built the rack, just never modeled any pieces to print for mounting my switches, etc.
This is super cool to see! Glad to see something like this come to market. Maybe ill revive my project.
Get well soon. I can't remember hearing about this new channel, but I subbed. I see myself as a low-level IT person for my job but with high admin credentials. It's a big interest of mine so I want to learn what I can, but don't have any schooling and degrees for it, it's all hands-on learning for me.
This rack is fantastic I have to confess. In Poland I bought 10" rack from Lanberg and put Raspberry Pis onto 3D printed rack. I would like to kindly ask you to make a table on your website that will contain all the links to each hardware, so in fact everyone could have a chance to build own 10" rack. I agree that some mount rack for PSU would be a good idea. So basically on this you can install Proxmox, Kubernetes - k3s that supports ARM architecture, GitLab, Jenkins, Argo CD, Cilium, Trivy, Grafana with Tempo, Jaeger, Snyk, Wazuh, Burp Suite, Suricata and many other tools like Zabbix, Rabbit MQ, Apache Kafka, Home Assistant with MQTT. Thanks a lot for this video. For me it is very informative.
Love this little stack, so fun.
It's a 'short stack'!
they should make a type C version of that cover so you don't have to flip it around a couple times when you put it back on LOL
perfect little rig for a 10" mikrotik switch
I like this rack. I hope the 10" form factor takes off.
awesome, love these mini racks!
Very nice and cool 10 inch rack.
I am looking for something like this, but they are hard to find.
Also great video and I really enjoyed it.
The bottommost U looks like the right place to put a blanking plate, then stuff the PSUs into it, where the half-height plate one the backside keeps it from falling out and has a half U to rpute the cables out.
it definitely would save a lot of deskspace and keep down on the epic tangle of wires that inevitably comes with sbc 'speriments
I've been looking for a mini rack to upgrade my home server from a Pi to a mini pc and this looks perfect
Get well soon. I hope it passes soon ❤
The small "bad bend" on the blank panels exist to make sure your racks are evenly spaced otherwise you'd run into a scenario where you'd mount, say, a heavy rack on the very bottom or top slightly offset because of its weight and then you'd wonder if the rack was manufactured wrong a few extra units further because the offset from the first rack was amplified to the point the holes don't match up anymore. And then people decided they didn't want to deal with this issue and invented rack rails.
Heh I could just imagine Supermicro designing tiny 10" rack rails :D
The whole thing would tip over if you even had a little rack drawer!
I remember some guy on Reddit did a nice post about building his own 10" rack, listed all the parts, then there were some subsequent other posts of others building one based on his.
It's the perfect size for experimentation. With 8U and half-width, there are only so many combinations of equipment that'll make sense.
I've also considered building 3x Intel N100 Mini ITX builds, with a little switch up top, it could be silent since that chip doesn't use much power and you only need one fan blowing air over the board.
@@Level2Jeff I've always wondered if something like a Dell X1018, X1026, or N1108P-ON would fit in a 10". I've seen ones with small rack ears (the kind you get for wall mounting) so it might even mount, rather than shelf. I know a Ubiquiti 8 150w (Unifi or EdgeSwitch) won't fit, it's slightly too wide. X4012 would be baller if you had a need for 10G, but it's likely loud, maybe bareable with a Noctua mod
Although a bunch of switches could work well if you just 3D printed a rackmount for it.
I think 3 x Zimaboards could fit too, although little under powered probably.
I like the 10" rack concept. One thing I did notice on your video is that if you fit SSD to your Pi tray they are on the underside and appear to them sit inside the 1U space below. Either the shelf need to be higher that the Pi's sit on or it is a 2U (1 1/2U) face plate.
True! That seems like a slight design oversight, especially if you're like me and try jamming stuff in the rack... you might jam it right into the SSD and break it :D
@@Level2Jeff I've had a hunt for what is available in the UK. I have found 9 1/2", 10" and 10 1/2" racks. So you are lucky to only have 10".
this is pretty cool, I want one for my desk hahaha, one of the first times im ready to order straight from the video
Lots of 3d printable 10" designs out there for NUC , networking equipment, etc.
Oh you made a 2nd channel, that's cool.
You and your dad's channel did really serious stuff that's so far from your usual stuff of tinkering with barely useful but very interesting stuff that most of us will never use so it's good then.
"Cosplaying as a sysadmin" lol
I have to admit, that little rack is very cool! A nice portable form factor that is flexible and reconfigurable. A small UPS would be a perfect addition... I have been debating about designing a small UPS for Raspberry PI systems for just this use case. Most of the small USB battery packs don't have continuous power output, or end up having problems with the batteries if left plugged in. Oh we could even have a little power monitoring circuit in the loop so you can Grafana the power usage. Lots of possibilities!
Love it, very tempted to buy one!
What's that patch panel?
Lol mini itx racks, they’re cute
The Raritan PXO-series PDUs are about 9" wide, and can be found at reasonable prices on eBay if you keep an eye out - I think one of those would fit on a shelf in that rack perfectly!
Because the screw is a hard mount, thus will transfer vibration to the case, negating the effect of having rubber feet
There's also a twin mini itx option for 19 inch rackmount, but the price tag is rather hefty. At least here in Germany.
Mikrotik has some great routers that are half a 1U tall and fit 2 units wide in a 19" rack (i.e. 4 units fit in a 1U)
Yes! Someone else mentioned they sell kits for half-rack mounting too, so I've just ordered one.
it's so cute!!
Easily make a UPS with 18650 batteries and an inverter board. Super cool.
Would be cool if they had some cable management solution at the back. Something for zipties maybe
An enclosure with a few Pi's, a mini pc and 3d print a mount four a Ubiquiti switch it would be awesome. I am betting you could take a small UPS apart and put it in an enclosure that will fit that rack if you feel comfortable working with line voltage. Unfortunately the rack is out of stock. Once I get one and a 3d printer might come up with something awesome.
You could get the magnetic LTT cable management system, they come with power brick holders that will attache to the blanks.
Not a bad idea. There are some nice little power strips that have those keyholes.
This would totally rock as a home demarcation unit -- I have a modem, router, switch, and VOIP gizmo where my network enters the house, and a rack like this would be awesome. But of course NONE of those things are (yet) designed for little racks. UPS would also be good. I just ended up building some wooden shelves to go up on the wall of the basement.
10 inch KVM? Yes please
I always do the 2 bottom screws only. If it's heavy, it'll just pull backward on the top, meaning the top screws aren't really doing much for you
Be adventurous! Do top screws only for lower equipment. That way it slants out for better visibility :)
The rubber nubbins are better than screws even when the fan comes with bumpers, becasue the screws are rigid mounted to the fan, and then the screw heads don't have any rubber isolation to the chassis, you're basically completely negating the point of the rubber bumpers on the fan when using screws. Whereas the nubbins give you full rubber isolation in all directions.
I just love the word nubbin. Makes sense!
Zip tying gear to a blanking panel is a time-honoured tradition. And usually engineers honour it by getting angry at the lazy person who couldn't be bothered drilling the holes and filing them fit the zip ties and not take up a fraction more than 1U, so you can actually fit something above or below it. Or, you know, mounting it to the shelf like you're supposed to.
Definitely needs a proper mains PDU though. Should be pretty easy to design a bracket to mount a small power strip. Or just zip tie it to a blanking panel.
Take a silver Sharpie and put "back" on the inside of the cover. Or just a dot. I love those Sharpies. I've labeled all my various power bricks.
I have one, and that's a good idea! Or even just a sticker there.
Random Google search shows a half rack 1U UPS - part number PG400-UPS-HR-DC28 with 28VDC output (aviation/military). Might be worth checking out.
The RUGGED UPS FA10449 is also half rack sized, and is AC, but unfortunately 3U.
Could one use power tool battery pack to build the UPS? Maybe that an a super capacitor bank to handle the power fault
Nice shirt Jeff!!!! TT
A server rack in a similar footprint to a Dell Precision tower, it is definitely adorable, but I'm not sold on being useful as a home rack option. I'd want premade metal shelves specifically fit to the most common tiny/mini/micro computers (Apple, Dell, HP, and Lenovo), and it'd have to have a PDU and KVM solution, just for practicality's sake.
where did you get that patch panel from? it's basiclly a half U 12 port keystone patch panel. exactly what i need. I'm going to stack two of them together to do a 1u 24port 10"
This looks awesome. It would be perfect for me if there was a shorter model that fits in a IKEA Kallax space.
What's the name of the little board on SBC shelf that rotates the HDMI to the same facing as the onboard raspberry pi Io? I need exactly this but Google and AliExpress aren't playing ball.
"I got a cold or something." Man you got a case of spring in St Louis. Even if you dont have allergies just the sheer amount of pollen in the air can be irritating to the throat! Also I might be just a little bit irrationally upset that the Jetsons are squares while the Pi gets to be stars........
True! The past couple weeks have been torture. Probably had a very mild cold but couple that with mold and pollen from the air, and it's a potent combo for my throat!
This is what PC cases need to evolve into. one of these, twice the depth, so you can put a miniitx pc with full length GPU, optionaly a watercooling unit, your NAS, maybe a pi cluster, some networking gear, all in one nice unit
that would be great for running those asrock n100 itx mobos
Definitely! They don't even need that much cooling-with the right RAM and cooler, you could use the 1U trays and mount up at least 3-5 without a problem.
@@Level2Jeff and then my brain went to setting up a a 4 node proxmox cluster or multiple low power linux server machines when you mentioned you could mount two next to each other to mount in a 19 inch rack. Maybe they will make a 10 inch disk shelf for SSDs at some point lol
Hi level 2 jeff. I wish you posted the Final Cut Pro tip two weeks ago. This is the first time I setup a NAS. Used a Jonsbo N1 and 5x20TB discs at Raid 5. My wife work includes video editing and she went mad at me when she tried to open the FCP Library!! I wish you can post some tutorials of software here. TrueNAS Scale is a mess. Software renames, moving features around in each version... made it almost impossible to find useful information. Anyway. All that to say two things:
1) Thank you
2) Please post more software guides. There's an overflow of hardware reviews and not enough "how to" videos for effective home server setups. I guess it's hard to ever-green them.
That is the trick; which is why I post most of my detailed stuff to GitHub (I'm geerlingguy there), and to my blog. With this new channel I may go deeper into some specific things too, we'll see.
Though I have no use for a rack like this, I want one!
Heh, it's like the Raspberry Pi of racks
Need a 10 inch 2U/4U JBOD. Then we could do a Mini-ITX system and plug it into a little storage array! I kinda want one of these now... Would look way cool/industrial to do a PC build in that rack.
This is very tempting... but I want a 6-8 drive bay that I can hook into that Mini-ITX case.
Mini disk shelf ftw
@@Level2Jeff Mini ITX NAS. :3
Why didn't you use the bottom set of holes?
Have I missed an issue with the bottom of the case?
Kinda want one of these. Know if anyone makes a ups that'll fit in the bottom? Or any recommendations for one to go with it?
I've been trying to find either a UPS or PDU. A few people mentioned building one of your own, and I may attempt it at some point (maybe just 12V / 5V only?), but I would love if someone could find one.
If I find one, I'll definitely share!
I think this UPS (Eaton USV Ellipse ECO 500 IEC) should fit in a 10" rack, but it's 230V only, which may be a problem in the US.
On channel #1, I watched Jeff rack the TP2 server. On channel #2 (#3?), I watched Jeff unrack the TP2 server. Full circle.
Now just keep going back and forth, and I shall bask in the $0.12 per day I get from you watching my videos 24x7! :D
@@Level2Jeff Happy to do my part, and we also have a toddler watching here too that the YT algorithm should be monetizing for you!
On a related note, CraftComputing Jeff made some comments about the state of YT revenue during one of his recent live streams.
It would be helpful for us in the audience to see regular "Channel Update" videos from all of you, like Christopher does over at ExplainingComputers, but specifically about details like CC Jeff mentioned about the ongoing benefits and challenges of running a business on YT.
@@jeremyjedynak That could be fun to do on this channel! I've considered doing those on my main channel but they always perform horribly, so I've shied away from it for the past couple years.
I have got to stop watching your video's. You get to play with all this cool stuff which I need to buy and quite frankly I can't afford. Anyone know where I can get a good price for a kidney?
7:59 Hellooo!
Dell has the 6016 5 port PDU, but unsure what rack mounting options there are for it, also not sure dimensions. It looks half width but unsure.
That does look like about the right size (though maybe one plug shorter to fit well?), but I can't find it in stock. If it's less than $50 I'd go find one.
the reason for the past couple of years of pi shortages right here
And like every USB cable... you need to flip it THREE times to get it the right way around....
Ok so there are some 10” PDUs on Amazon you have to look pretty hard. I missed them the first time I looked
i have no use at all for that, but now i want it hahahahah
You could build a NAS out of that if you could find some affordable Hard Drive trays.
let's GO!!
9:08 digitus makes a half height brush cover :)
Drat, I can't find one from a US supplier, but it looks like they do offer a number of 10" options!
👍
Oh no. Speaking of fever dreams... the long-held dream of a 4-6U 19" mobile rack (like musician audio gear flight case or similar) with a UPS, NAS, and some sort of compute. As you said, plug in two wires for net and power and it's up and running. RIP my wallet. 😂
It would be super tight 9.6x9.6 in 10" but needs MATX cases, mini itx is too restrictive
I just bought some rack rails to make my own 10 inch rack… Think I’d rather just buy this!
Bought it… and it’s great!
Monoprice Blackbird Pro 4-Outlet Smart PDU.
10 in pdu but super expensive.
10" Rack PDU - 1U (4 Outlet) on Amazon for $50
slap one of those fat 12V PSUs in the back and make 2 copper rails with 12V.
then branch off every time you need to connect something
Ooh you also get a happy tingle if you touch both of them at the same time!
@@Level2Jeff its a security system to keep red shirt jeff away from your Network
@@Level2JeffLTT once showed of a cloud gaming VM server that had a 12v DC connector in the back to hook into a PDU.
maybe you could make a 3d printed version of something like that
You gonna be at redhat summit in Denver this year Jeff?
No :(
i want the link for the 10" keystone
It's on www.deskpi.com - they have it for sale on their store.
Oh, it is a little rack😂
Ive been wanting a small rack to stick under my desk so I can put all my networking gear and file storage stuff. But even the smallest standard racks are much too big to fit under a desk! But I dont think this one is it, unfortunately.
Jeff, I am a computer science student, and I am working on a research project of materials, and one of the things I do is calculate SCF structures using quantum espresso... Do you think it would be possible to run those calculations in a RPI cluster? (they are heavy calculations, on my I7 20cores (8P 12E) takes 30+ hours)
I think it would depend a lot on whether the CPU can accelerate any of the calculations natively. The Pi is generally not that good at compute tasks (compared to a modern Intel or AMD chip), even clustered. More for lab environment or when you need efficiency above all else.
Buy a common computer. Xeon. Epic. Whatever is more powerful than that shitty pis
13:00 LTT magnetic cable management wants to know your location (idk if the rack is a magnetic material)
I think those blanks may not be symmetrical.. you might have had them upside down.
Rack seems to be unavailable on us amz atm. :(
Drat! I asked them about it-they said they are shipping another batch. Since it's early in the product's lifecycle, they aren't stocked up to meet immediate demand, but it should even out.
When I asked what they preferred, they said it saves on shipping to go through Amazon's warehouses, since global shipping rates are pretty rough for individual units (they do take up a bit of space compared to little computers/accessories!).
Hopefully it'll be back in stock in the US soon! Feel free to email DeskPi to, they are usually responsive.
I love this 10 inch rack, much cooler than the hanging types. So I remembered you saying you can't find a US 10 inch PDU, 10 inch racks are common in Europe for SOHO use, so accessories are much easier to get hold of, anyway I came across this video when investigating 10 inch racks more czcams.com/video/cALwxH5vJuo/video.html Don of Novaspirit Tech bought a surge protector power gang with 3 mains and 3 USB sockets, then 3D printed a panel with posts that aligns with the hanging holes of the power gang for his PDU solution, so might be an option you could look at if you don't find a ready to go 10 inch US PDU.
Why didn't you put this video on your main channel?
I'm starting to put up videos that I know some people would watch, but I don't think would have as wide an audience, on this channel. The main channel's audience influences how CZcams recommendations work with any videos I post there, so I want to have this channel for more experimental, more 'raw', or more niche videos.
1:20 🤣
I’m a child.
"Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."
Why is everything I need not in stock?
Those mini itx cases are like $250 each 😮 CZcamsrs are funny.
The dual config is that much, individual units less
i want something like this but meant for mITX builds and not Pi
Why a third channel?
I am so doing this now if you can find a UPS ...
I hear DeskPi is working on a design, otherwise I haven't found one yet
would be nice if it was deeper.... as deep as it is wide
I don't even have a girlfriend with a Rack... (or any girlfriend at the time...) Not even for my server poor thing! Some guys get all the good stuff!!! :P hahahha
PiRack? :)