Excavator pulling a 28" Ash Stump
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- čas přidán 4. 08. 2014
- We're getting a new septic system put in, and unfortunately the old (44 years old, as it turns out) ash tree in our backyard had to go. It had been partly killed by the ash-beetle that seems to be killing all the ash trees around here (SW Ontario), so it wasn't that great a loss.
The septic guys have their own little excavator for digging the system, but to pull this stump they needed a much larger one.
Your septic guys just conned you into paying for an unnessecarily big excavator. I pulled several stumps a LOT bigger than that one with a 4,5 ton Take-Job on rubber tracks just this summer, helping my mom out at her cottage. (Felling trees, demolishing buildnings, buildning new roads along slopes, the usual crap) I encountered trees with widespread roots and ones with deep roots and, as mentioned, a LOT bigger than yours. It did not take all day, it all went very smoothly.
Ok, in all honesty there was this one big ass birch tree where the rootlump was so heavy and saturated with cement-hard dried clay the excavator (that lifts a ton without any issues as long as you don't go playing "not-so-merry-go-round" while lifting) could barely lift it even after severing every single litte root, from every single angle and that root took about 20 minutes to pull from start to finishing filling in the hole by finally tipping the entire 4,5 ton excavator about 30-40 degrees and just sitting there for a minute or so letting gravity do it's thing.
But other than that i kept a great pace. I'm not a machine operator (though i'd like to imagine myself as a natural) I've driven bobcats and skylifts in-and outdoors many times! Unlicensed obviously, both on commercial sites and on private property, but this was the second time i've ever driven an excavator in my life and the diference in difficulty from driving a bobcat is just immense . The first time i tried it out was 2 half-days in a 1 ton "excavator". If it was up to me i'd just call it a hydraulic shovel, hahaha! It didn't even have a roof and i only used it on paved land and indoors, never in any shape or form of terrain.
Suddenly i'm in a 4,5 times bigger machine with a tiltrotor expected to remove stones about 1,5-2 times the machines maximum lifting capacity. Sounds like bragging? Have you ever, by hand, dug up a stone you could never ever have lifted out of a hole with your sheer strenght? Well, there you have it folks..
I have dug thousands of stumps. The ground was soft and he dug right up to the stump with his first hole. He should have drove around behind the dirt mound and simply pulled the stump into that hole. He dug five times as much was needed to get that small thing out. Small, yep, I just dug up four oak tress from around my house with 36 in trunks and over 12 foot wide root systems with my John Deere 510 backhoe. I had the whole tree and used the trunk for leverage to shove them over. OK, I did hook a chain up in the tree and use a 8,000 lb cable puller and 60 feet of cable to help them start to tip.
Finally someone that knows how to pop a stump out.
Called to dig up a stump, proceeds to dig entire yard. I’ve dug up many stumps and NEVER dug that big of a hole to get the damn stump out.
They were going to put septic tank in
Finally an operator!!! Wrong bucket?? It got the entire job done in minutes! Loaded out and hole covered. Incompetent? That guy didn't waste a move. SMOOTH OPERATOR!!! That's the kind of partner I wanted when I was working ,but hard to find as you can tell by comments. Again Nice!
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Jeez, another white knight. Only thing I noticed was that it was quite a large bucket for stump pulling as you want as much focused power and do as little damage to the yard.... gard to do either well with such a large bucket. On the other hand as I said, way overkill on power so it's not a big beal specially if this machine was coming from another job and headed back to the yard, saving labor and transportation costs . Didn't see the op do anything wrong, looked really smooth. That all said, I don't think the guy needs or wants your protection on this matter LOL
It's not just about wasting moves, it's about delivering a service to your customer at a fair price. And just the cost of transporting this guys machine (wich needs a lorry rather than a smaller trailer behind a 4x4) would have given me an entire day to remove that stump with a mini excavator without even increasing the cost to the customer...
Might be decent at pulling sticks but for real a 50k machine to pull that stump??? Get real you could pull that easily with a Max 18k machine. They fucked these people if they had that hauled in on a semi lowboy and rented this or whatever. It was overkill to the max!
For all those whining about the cost and size of the machine. There is a septic system going in also just so you this is not here for the stump only the stump just needed to be taked out end of. story.
I enjoyed watching the clown with the shovel get in close in case he had to spring into action.
Thank God the guy with the shovel was there.
This driver is working by the hour !!
Tom Hoffmann would have pulled that out with his 35:1 mechanical advantage setup pulling with his Kia. Check out his video. Pretty cool. Thanks for posting. I like the pivoting attachment on the end of the excavator.
I like the way the bucket articulates all the way around
really nice bucket! the new cat excavators are probably the best on the market, cat hit a home run I think. the only thing that sucks is all the emission BS they have to put on em'. that's why the rear end is so large, for all the emission junk.
I think these people worked for the government they know the hard way and most expensive way of doing a job.
True 🤣🤣
grading bucket wouldn't be my first choice, but go with what ya got, 320 would take out stumps many times that size if room to work. Ash is pretty easy tree to dig up too, i don't think i remember how to operate without a pro thumb anymore. Fresh stump on a flatbed, count the number of lost windshields on the way to the dump.
Joy to watch every second of the cat operation.
That’s a bucket man, fun to watch operator’s that know what they are doing
Then there is this guy
Too much damage for such a small root system. But you will learn all that as you go. 👌🇺🇸💪
I thought he was digging a swimming pool next to the stump
Lmfao 😂💀
Lmfao 😂
I'm jealous of your soil
As an operator, I'd say the problem here isn't the driver, it's whoever cut the stump off so low down.
I have dug too many stumps and I own a small 110tlb.......I cant tell you how many stumps I have dug that I had to dig an ramp to pull them out of the hole.....digging stumps will wear an operator out.
Typically dig stumps off the front or back of your machine so your not wrenching your track chains. Plus alot more pulling power
Great work lads
wow. I just drove down to the local rental, hopped on their backhoe ford tractor drove it home, dug out the stump and back in 42 minuets. They showed me what each lever did.
32ton excavator is made for brutal job you can pull it toward first hole ,think it'll come right up less dirt pile less mess and beautiful grass land remain
Why did the clown go so deep, was he trying to hit pipes/wires? That thing surely had the power to just roll the stump right out out the ground without digging at all.
read the description. We were digging an entire septic system
Great video BUT you need to hold the camera still ...I got giddy watching it ( with respect)
every job's a big job out there!!!!
The two-stick arrangement seems to universal for excavators; if there's an exception I'm sure someone will mention it.
All full stump grinder would have done the job with less destruction
They would install a new septic system. Why should they worry over any destruction?
Would it stop an ash though? Those things are relentless.
I think it depends. With stump grinding you still have to clean up a ton of wood chips or else you wouldn’t be able to grow grass for a while until they break down which can take a few seasons.
Enjoyed👍
He has a 100k dollar tilt rotator bucket! His machine is clean. He was just babying his stuff is all!
Why would you dig out the stumps when you can grind them out with less disruption?
11:37 look on the left. why did they hire this thing out when thats sitting there?
read the description.
A happy Bambi lol they have a mini x there wow
Should have used a 2 foot bucket. Much less collateral damage.
Those Mitsubishi excavators painted cat Yellow have less power than a mini excavator. Lol
He,s playing the game with owner?
Why not a stump grinder?
Epic fail with that bucket !
Sometimes that how much digging it takes..tap roots etc..if they'd only leave taller stumps the leverage helps pop them out with less digging..
Jay Todd gd
Very smart!
Nothing wrong withe the bucket choice for the job. Also whoever thinks it is a 32ton machine knows nothing. The 3 in 320 signifies the series of machine, a 3 means excavator in cat language and 20 is a 20ton machine with a maximum operating weight of 27.225ton or 54,450lbs that would include a thumb witch is not necessary if you know how to properly operate.
I run a cat 349 and that weighs 117,500lbs or 58.75ton
Anyway hope your septic field install went well.
a smaller bucket would have made it easier to control damage to surrounding soil and allowed a more knowledgeable op to do a cleaner job and maintain the soil layers intact and in the proper order. Hope he didn't pay too much as that was just a quick rip and tear job, he'll have trouble growing there with the upset soil layers. Maybe he's prepping for a pool in which case it's fine
Spa that’s grading bucket it should be a digging bucket and a mini digger
Overkill and a damn expensive mess just for A couple tree stumps!
read the description. Entire septic system being dug.
What type of bucket is that he's using on that cat 320e?
It's a grading bucket. Usually when you equip a machine with rotortilt you also buy a bucket set consisting of a grading bucket, cable bucket, teeth bucket (designed for RT use) and also what we call a VA trench bucket here in Sweden. VA stands for Vatten(Water) and Avlopp(Sewer), meaning a bucket in a good size for water and sewer pipe trenches.
Pallet forks can also be handy but it's more common on wheeled excavators - very handy to unload a truck comming with construction/building material.. for example.
dug up plenty of stumps in the last 3 years I could have done that with a mini excavator !!! They totally overkill that job and probably way overpaid !!
YOU ARE RIGHT
Ive dug up a stump altittle smaller than tht one with a terrimite its a small backhoe
He didnt dig up the whole yard, just most of it
Thats what I was thinking but hopefully they kept the big excavator around for the septic tank hole to make it worth while.
You are 100% correct, that stump is so small for that excavator. That job is definitely overkill and a rip off.
Not only the wrong bucket but he didn't have to chew up the lawn either. All he had to do was put the bucket down lift the front of the machine then turn. He would have only chewed up about 2-3 ft. Well I suppose everyone has to learn somewhere...Experience or lack there of shows.
I think it's because they just rented it. They specialize in making septic systems, read the description...
The guy should also clean the other smaller stump next.
Holy shit.i guess digging up entire back tardis one way to do it😆
Nice machine 🤤
I don’t know why he’s pushing the large roots back in the hole.
I thought he would stop, a gang of guys come in, sort out the big bits then the machine back-fill.
Stump grinder would've been a lot cheaper and less messy.
Raymond Jordan do you think a grinder can dig a hole for the septic???
At this point you might as well put in an in-ground swimming pool.
I would think that machine was over kill, wouldn’t a stump grinder be less destructive and a lot cheaper?
They are putting in a new septic system, so the excavator needs to be there for the septic system installation anyways I assume.
Asks for at stump removal gets the whole garden removed
Lmfao 😂💀
Are you trying to dig A basement?
I lost two ash trees. Hate to see them go.
Gotta agree kenneth boyd i dug 31 stumps comparable size in 5 hrs with a mini excavator
At the end of the day no stump and flat ground
I think he just wanted some digging time
what hole
kids get your swimming gear
And how about that laborer! Work boots? NO! Leather gloves? NO! Safety glasses? NO! Long pants? NO! But he's got his hard hat on, just in case anything falls out of the sky.
! This guy moves mountains to remove a stump!
The best tool is a talon hook on the digger, just rip threw the out side of the stump, and hook underneath, few nudges and pulls and a way they go,, took out some huge stumps with a takuchi 23r,,,stumps heavier than machine,,, got to admit, there's always the awkward bastard that makes u work for your money,,,
Should have called Andrew Camarata
nice machine
I am sorry that so many people were bashing the size of the machine but, unable to read the description frist to get the facts.
Yeah, its pretty sad. I contracted to have the septic system installed, the septic guys brought in (and paid for) the big excavator to pull the tree trunk.
@@JonHylands i looked for the video of the back when the system was in but, you must of removed it. I subscribed to your channel to be able to check your other video's.
@@scruffy6151 I don't think I ever posted a video of the back yard after the new system was put in. I moved away from that property 3 1/2 years ago.
@@JonHylands you had posted a link to it but, it did not load so i went to you channel to find it but, it was not there.
Although i did see some other things i do want to look at later. So if you see me commenting on other video's just me being nosey lol.
Never to old to learn something new it help keep the mind sharpe.
Have a good day.
It's a news machine so he's getting paid. screw the haters. By the time you take the stump out .the hole is half dug. Bury the stump where you taken it from
Pulling a stump to install a thermonuclear war bomb shelter in its place.
I think I could have got that stump out a lot quicker and cleaner than that, but I wouldn't dare pull hard with that rotator
That guy dug to China, LoL. Plus he should of had a narrow bucket with teeth and a grapple. That machine really hacked up the lawn with it's tracks too. The operator did do a nice job of putting the dirt back however.
what a mess he made of that guy back yard next time use a stump grinder or get a better operator
jeff c next time bother to read the video description and comments before commenting yourself...
His comment is still valid. The operator why good with the rotating bucket; disturbed WAY more ground then needed to be.
I don't agree. A couple days after this excavator left, this is what the yard looked like: www.huv.com/IMG_20140807_133406.jpg
still a mess a leach field in that mess lets see the inspection and permit
The mess was waiting to see if the black water from the old system would re-absorb into the soil (which it didn't), which is why they needed to put in an entire bed of some special gravel. We sold the house a year and a half ago, but I can assure you it was properly done, inspected, and what-not. Anyways, its all a moot point - the cost of the tree stump cleanup was included in the cost of the system, and we ended up with a great system that actually worked.
turning the garden over better than planting spuds,spent the dinner hour in the pub.
Very interesting and informative, but the shaky video did give me a headache
House binding
He has a 48 inch bucket!
Andrew Camarata would have done a good job there and less mess !!
Oh ya. He does such classy work. What a slob
Couldn't you have found a bigger bucket?, what a damn mess for one stump I hope that was cheap. Or maybe you're a settler, he got the stump out, you'll settle for that.
Why wouldn't you take the large roots away instead of putting them back in the hole
there goes the lawn :)
My goodness how many experts having their opinion ,just for the record oak trees have roots way deep if you don't dig them up they will continue to grow ,I suppose you wouldn't want that
It's not oak. Its ash
Stump Grinder would make less mess to reinstate
I would have rented bobcats with the stump grinder on it, they will deliver and pick it up, that guy could have done it himself. He could've also ground out the.smaller stump.. Now he will be pulling up pieces of roots forever.
Is he digging a pipeline or something?
So if the workers destroy your lawn people there tend to like to dig up lawns and no need to do so I always will try to get chains to get help with the first task of removing the stump or did they hire a lawn removal service and then to listen to them talking about needing a new rewireamateurs at play would be great tile
The Rooster or shark tooth heads would of given u firewood with only 1/3 soil disruption. Now u still have to deal with giant stump.
Not my problem, and we needed many of the larger roots to be gone as well, which is why they dug so much out. Keep in mind this happened something like eight or nine years ago - I don't even live in the same town now.
Could have removed the stump for less than $10 bucks , roots too, no mess !
What did George say?
Watch out for that tree!!
Dang! Like a surgeon with that big thing!!
Wouldn’t you have better break out force if you took off that tilt rotator
Idk why people do this! Why ruin the yard when you can just gring the stump out?
@Guy in Colorado, Greetings! Yes it does! And it is fun to watch
good news is you got the stump out bad news is you're gonna need repairs on the septic tank
This is not a spoon for such work
😂😂 Im stumped with such a mess 💀
Incredible waste of time and destruction of property.
Good operater
Ummm...i dug up same size ash w a little TLB....half the size hole. This dude may as well dug the grand Grand Canyon! I would have swiped on either side w that huge machine and yanked it up w half the yard damage. Hahah.
Then I have no problem standing corrected as one that strives not to criticize without having all the facts I did what I don't like to do nor do I like to see those from others , I like to watch these kids of vids as I've done that work and its similar to what I do now if you do this type of work and video it I will follow you cause I like to watch others as well
Well he dug up the stump and the yard
He must be getting paid for every ton of dirt he digs out the hole
Pretty obvious that someone dont know what a stump grinder is.i mean why the 8ft hole in the ground unless your installing a septic tank
.that stump could have been carried out in 2 wheelbarrow trips of chips
"...unless your installing a septic tank..." - yeah, read the video description again. The stump was right in the middle of where the septic field ended up going...
Use a wood chipper so you don’t have to get your back yard tore up
Good lord.... lucky the house didn't fall in.
Jon Hylands, A Thinner bucket would mean not as big of a hole to fill in, no matter the reasoning...
Not relevant - the entire backyard (including the big hole where the tree was dug out) was dug out the next day to install a new septic field. He wasn't trying to minimize the mess or disturbance, he was trying to take care of the stump and as much of the root system as he could.
@@JonHylands "Big Picture" now understood. Pardon me.
Both operator and camera man appear to be drunk.
YES must be with the amount of camera shake made feel sick watching it
You have a riper on the job, usead the dam think, that's a wrong bucket for the job . ..
Wrong bucket for the job.