RTX Graphics Card in a 20 Year Old Family PC...
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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
- Hello everyone and welcome back (atlast) to another Budget Builds Episode where today were taking a look at the Pentium 4....But not in the way you all think. No we're taking it to just about the feasable limit of what should be possible. Involving modifying the BIOS of an old Dell, stripping out processors that are actually decent, and attempting to get the PC to even work. It's been a complete mess trying to get this video out, from the initial review going downhill, through to the pain of actually getting these parts to all work together, either way I hope you all enjoy.
Intro - 0:00
The Idea - 0:12
Up in the Loft Searching for a PC - 0:45
Whats our Graphics Card? - 1:45
The Theory...Will it work? - 2:57
BIOS Hunting...This took a long time - 4:19
Will it POST- 4:58
The Specs of the PC - 5:21
The Benchmarks! - 6:43
GTA 5 (720p +V.Low/High) - 6:45
Red Dead Redemption II (768p,DLSS,SSE Fix, etc...) - 7:45
Minecraft RTX (720p Fast) - 8:49
Quake II RTX (720p + 25% Res DLSS) - 9:33
Project Zomboid (Lowest 1080p) - 10:30
Dont Starve (Notebook Mode 720p) - 10:45
Crysis (720p - Low/Med/High) - 11:27
Fable TLC (1080p Med/High) - 12:06
Comparisons vs C2Q and Non RTX Card - 12:36
Nvidia DLSS...Yes a Pentium 4 can Record - 13:54
Conclusion - 14:54
Music
Simcity 2013 OST
Simcity 3000 - Building
MGS Hidden Jazz
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Specs:
CPU: Pentium 4 630 @ 3.2Ghz
GPU: RTX4060Ti by Palit
RAM: 6GB DDR2 800Mhz - Věda a technologie
The Pentium 4 was really being bottlenecked, youd need a much more powerful card for that system.
The Pentium 4 is the key to quantum computing.
With the liquid nitrogen should be able to reach 5ghz
RTX 4090...yes...😄🤣
@@MrEpicface97why
He'd have to wait for the 5090 to release
And on the next episode, we'll see an intel 486 paired with an RTX 4090
😂😂😂😂good luck
No drivers would work, but theoretically you could use a PCI->PCIe bridge and use it as a video output device.
@@DrewWalton maybe som linux drivers can work
@@samoskvarenina4285 proprietary Nvidia blobs? Lol no
Running OS/2 Warp 4. CPU bottlenecks don't matter if you can't utilise your GPU
When the world need him the most,he returned...
What do we want? More budget builds! When do we want it? Now!
I forgot I was subbed to him lol. Good video to remind me tho.
I mean, there are budget builds, and then there is...this.
i like his voice when he’s explaining something
FINALLY!!!
This is what happens when you spend the entire budget on the GPU
🤣
When you buy the rest of your system with the mail in rebate savings
You could actually find better CPUs for free, at the side of the road 😁
Damn it, I was gonna say that lmao.
Always better spending on a solid gpu. You can survive with a discrete functional cpu , but not the other way around. Cpu can wait, not graphics card.
He figured out how to make the 4060 TI look good. He's a genius!
😂 lol
its not the fact its a bad card, its just at an abysmal price
@@boblatte123That is most of what defines whether a card is good or bad in the first place
The value proposition of this PC is actually a perfect fit for the 4060 Ti
Why say that? Is the 4060 that bad in comparison to 70 and 80 series in the even the older 20 or 30 models?
@@MrAceAwesome1the 4060 and 4060ti are overpriced and not really an upgrade at all to the 3000 series cards of similar name. 3060 is actually the better buy because it's got 12gb lol.
@@MrAceAwesome1Sadly, yes
😂😅
@@MrAceAwesome1 4060: 3060 with dlss3
>gets a 4060ti for review from Palit
>tests it on a Pentium 4
>refuses to elaborate
I love this channel
Я люблю иностранные тексты к видео читать. У нас подобное древностью называют.
@@ZE_TRVTH_NVKE>le sekrit club
lol ok tourist
im running an i9-9900k with a GTX 760, I came from frankensteining laptops and computers to push them to their limits to game. I love this video!
this is one of the hardware reviews of all time.
The "newest game , oldest cpu" sounds like one heck of a competition. i always love watching your unique content.
First - welcome back, missed your stuff greatly.
Second - this type of video is exactly why I have subscribed to you 4 channels (of mine) ago.
Third - I'd definitely want to see a 25p PC built nowadays, could be even harder potentially than back then?
Fourth - I have no idea why I have that exact same "young tender whole carrots" bag you had on top of the Dell and where it came from, especially considered Poland is not necessarily close to the UK, but I do have it! Did not expect to see it today.
Fifth - you've got adamantium balls for putting the GPU this close to the water. Especially if you have to send it back.
Madness that hardware 20 years apart is compatible.
Sleeper PC exists what
We can just start bolting parts together and I love it. Pentium 4? Put an ssd in it! Plug in a brand new graphics card!
@@memeplayer1923that's not what a sleeper PC is, a sleeper PC is having a high end PC that doesn't look like one.
This PC isn't high end apart from the GPU
Apple could never
😂😂
Fantastic video, sir! As a former P4 daily driver (2004-2012), this tickled me inside!
Hope you’re doing well man nice to hear from you.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficialhey man
ur discord link doesn't work
Is the server up?
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Just wanted to say, you earned a sub !
Nice to see a new budget builds official video. This is the pc equivalent of a bodybuilder who's never done leg day or cardio.
its amazing what the Pentium 4 can do with a 4060 Ti, even if by any means, you shouldnt even consider a 4060 ti for a Pentium 4
Why not ? It's a pretty nice build. You can play GTA on it 😂
Been thinking recently where you went, lovely to see you, the person that sparked my love for old hardware, back.
And what about Celeron D and RTX? Will it make the horrible chip any better? Nice video by the way,
I would go so far to put a one from the Celeron 400 series against that. They are single core, have 512k L2 Cache, clock about 30% slower, and still beat every Pentium 4
Glad to see you again! Your videos are super fun to watch and also sort of keep me in touch with my field of study.
Just yesterday I was checking the channel for any updates. Glad to have you back 🎉
Literally just saw a video in another completely unrelated channel named "Budget Builds in 2023?" the video wasn't about this channel but it made me go "Man, it's been a while since I've watched Budget-Builds Official. Wonder why he stopped posting." Then came here and saw he just posted a video 8 hours ago. I don't know how the universe did this but I love it.
Would be funny to see something like a Pentium EE or a Xeon 5000 series (for instance 5080) with 2 core and 4 thread based on the netburst architecture... Maybe it's an idea for the RTX 5000 series ? like pairing a Xeon 5080 with an RTX 5080 :)
Yes! Matching the codes! That HAS to work, right? They have the same number on them, they must be compatible!😂
He has returned!!!! Welcome back. Hopefully this isn't a one-off!
1min 4 seconds and i know this is a channel + presenter/creator for me. nice one!
No wonder there is a 7 month gap getting this to work.
Welcome back, friend. You did not disappoint. Seriously addressing a thing no one asked about ever and doing it with conviction. The moment I knew I was infor something special was when you said you were down grading from C2Q to a P4. Thank you.
Holy shit. Thank you SO MUCH for finally coming back, and I'm pretty sure this is the first time we have seen your face (at least my first time).
Despite being on the high end cutting edge of PC Gaming since 2011, as a former console exclusive gamer from 2002 - 2011 (I got out of PC gaming around 2002), I have always loved your videos simply due to bang for the buck, and they definitely appeal to me in the 10 years or so I was console only.
I missed out on so much back in those days.
As someone still very much proudly stuck in the 90's (3DFX, Pentium II, and Athlon for Life baby!!!), your videos are a godsend for me.
Are you on the DC server and If yes is it alive? I can't join. Says invalid link
glad to see some new content from you.
one of my absolute favorite youtuber.
greetings from germany 🎉
Yay! good to see you are still uploading I been waiting for a new Video 😀 Love your Videos
He's still alive!
Right? I was thinking about this channel the other day and wondering if he'd passed for some reason and just nobody told me.
This was extremely enjoyable and something I had no clue was even possible. A Pentium 4 with an actual useable PCI-E Slot 😭 You should try a Core 2 Quad and compare em. It's incredible to think about modern CPU's.. Nehalem was released in 2008 and is still somewhat useable, that's the same amount of time going back to the original P5 Pentium in 1993 and the P5 was not useable in 2008.
I was enjoying westmere until just last year. The old xeons are utterly capable even lacking avx2.
@@ignotumperignotius630 definitely. Tons of CZcamsrs including myself have praised em for years. I have a Westmere EP system still to this day with 5690s that's extremely capable. I even used it as a main rig for a while earlier this year due to a fatal issue with my main rig. I used it for editing and playing Battlefield 2042 casually for about 2 months. Even Fortnite ran well and I was using a 3060ti and GPU usage was 100%. I was impressed again, to say the least
Westmere and even Penryn have aged surprisingly well.
We've reached some sort of equilibrium. You can use any Core 2, first gen Core i, Phenom, etc quad for basically all tasks today outside of AAA gaming. They have pretty similar IPC, the only difference is that the Phenom and Core i will give 6 cores and that the Intels will give SSE4
And yes, Pentium 4 and PCIe were a thing. They brought them with Prescott and LGA775
Not really a surprise when the northbridge was responsible for PCIe back then.
He kind of compare them at 12:46
I was pleasantly surprised to see a new vid from you :) Also gg's to you making this "questionable" GPU turn into something good. Keep up the good work!
At 2:27
"Bus Size"
"Its not the size of the bus, its how you use the bus that counts...."
Said no woman!!
Glad you're back!! Was thinking you were a channel that had given up the ghost!!
A Budget Build is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to
Note: those games can probably run off GPU alone better than the Pentium.
I have that same Dell Inspiron 530. It was my first computer for just myself as a kid and what taught me most of my basic computer knowledge that I have today. It's always a treat to see it pop up in random videos so I can have a small trip down memory lane. (Even if you did absolutely mangle it)
Glad your back I've been getting back into your videos the last few days and was disappointed to see you were no longer uploading
Bro wow I’ve missed you ❤️
Thank you for making what main stream tech media is afraid of.
He's back ❤❤❤ absolutely my kind of video. So glad to see you again 🎉
Thanks man, hope you’re doing well 👍
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial all the better for seeing you, mate
I was only just the other day reminiscing about Budget videos and to my surprise this morning here is one. Almost goes back to the days of my first PC although I doubt you'd find a 486 board with a PCI-e slot. I think the technology would be in different eons. Nice to see and hear you again.
For that I would look into industrial equpiment. Or Intel Quark. While not 486, but P5 based, they offer PCIe.
What patience. What dedication. we could all learn from you. Thanx brother.
My boy is back again! ❤
Heyooooh!
8:30 Considering Matrox now does Intel Arc based low end cards you could definitely do something with them, if you can find one that is.
Welcome back! Please make more vids, miss watching your stuff!
Really glad to see you back. I missed this channel.
I did this same thing pretty much because I bought a BFG GTX 280 launch week of 08' and slapped it in my eMachines P4 desktop. I was confused why Crysis was 22fps lol.
Even just upgrading to a C2D 6600 unlocked it mostly, but the card does surprisingly well with much nicer processors.
I'm shocked the drivers didn't need newer CPU instructions
Great video 😊
Used to use Pentium 4s in Novell NetWare servers back in the day... Good memories.
God i love these videos. Your voice and the background music is so soothing. Even though i have no idea what you're taking about most of the time
I wonder if one of the newer AMD RX 6000 graphics cards would do better. They perform more tasks on the GPU instead of farming it out to the CPU, so you can get 20% or so more performance than Nvidia sometimes if you have a really slow CPU.
(AMD GPUs can be more difficult to get working under weird situations though, and this is definitely weird lol)
These dell BIOS require a boot mode that AMD doesnt support I will test with my 6700XT on my P4 system.
@@RedStripeMedia As soon as I get my upgrade ready, I will throw my 1060 into my Core 2 system, just to see how ridiculous it gets.
I’m 100% sure this is what Palit had in mind…
Absolutely.
But they have to fight for that title with Zotac, they made stuff like a GT 430 on PCI
Absolute g unit, no explanation on not posting for months, f that just straight into a banger. FMPs!
Great to see you uploading again, i hope everything is alright. Looking forward to see more videos soon.
You found a way to make the 4060Ti interesting, in a certified Budget-Builds way. Welcome back!
Glad to see you're back. I really missed your content.
If you need another RTX title to run on any pc, you could try doom.
Yes, the 1993 game.
Yes, there's a rtx mod for it!
I just went through this man's entire back catalogue! The problem is: now what? Last post over 2 months ago! I found this channel with the PC for 25p video! Please come back and grace us with more budget-friendly builds!
I was missing you man, thank god you (hopefully) came back!
I wonder if an RX 7600 would have done better, due to the driver overhead on the Nvidia card.
That's what I thought! Getting rid of that annoying driver overhead and it should be silky smooth.
Makes me wonder where AMD have improved their driver overhead. I still remember during DX11 times how much they gained from switching to Mantle and later Vulkan.
Like in Doom 2016 where a RX 480 easily gained 25-50% and went from being 25% slower than a GTX 970 to being 15% faster, while nvidia cards gained 5% at best from low level APIs.
Oooh, i'll have to check if there is a modded bios for my favorite dell 6520 laptop... The chipset officially supports 3rd gen ivy bridge cpu's, but dell being dell limited it to 2nd gen sandy bridge so that you had to buy a newer model, literally a 6530 if i recall.
Been years since i looked for a bios.
Paused always sunny for this, welcome back :)
This is rather unfortunate. I haven’t been keeping up with pc deals and just in general, pc community, but i was looking rather forward to watching your videos again, but this is the only video you have made so far.
I hope i can see more videos of you soon, mate. I do enjoy your videos quite a lot.
It would be interesting to see how the system performs with games that run fine on the P4 but at very high resolutions like 4K or more (e.g using DSR) :D
Like Half Life 2 or Far Cry?
Oh, Doom 3 should run well, considering that can be forced to run on a Voodoo 2
I think the original Stalker had pentium 4 as system requirements if I remember right too.
What a cute little card. It's fascinating to see how much more powerful it is (or would be) than my enormous GTX 1070
On the same kind of note, I’m running an nvidia a2000. Equivalent to a 3050 or 3050ti if they made one. And it’s amazingly small and efficient. Runs completely off power from the pci slot actually. Perfect for office pc upgrades :)
Welcome back! Sure as hell missed your content
I was wait this before with a very old cpu with a modern GPU! Thanks for this video!
Honkai Star Rail will really work this, since i tested with a very old 1,3 ghz dual core laptop!
RX 6400 would be a suitable GPU for this one. Sure, probably at least 10x faster than the fastest GPUs of the Pentium 4 era, but a 2020 era gpu with 4GB of vram and 53W TBP is something else.
rofl the times when I had more video ram than I had actual RAM for my pc .
Seen how much the RX 6400 is held back by PCIe 3? Yeah, this got PCIe 1
Okay, on one hand every modern card would be bottlenecked by a Pentium 4.
But from a more realistic perspective (getting a new card for your ancient computer), the user would probably also max out the other parts.
So a Core 2 Quad, 8 GB RAM and a decently sized SATA SSD would be in there.
And for that the RX 6400 is the wrong card.
I would say GT 1030 level performance is the absolute maximum, and even that is stretching it.
The best choice i made recently for my pc was going for the 4070 instead of 4080, after being used to the jet engine that is a 2080 the 4070 is so quiet and runs like a dream
I think this is the most satisfying video I have watch. its like your in the present time and you go back in time 20 years ago,
and meet your wife back then. absolutely satisfying. I laugh so hard. you made my day bro.
My god that text format is just nostalgic at this point the color scheme and everything, been watching for so many years.
hd4000 for the win
laptop edition
Celeron N2840 for the win!
Frankenstein experiments are my favorite genre of CZcams videos.
Try old CPUs with AMD graphics cards. They have lower overhead and will stress the cpu less.
sorry to hear about your footage. glad to see you doing something anyhow. The build is a bit Frankenstein and i like that lol
i was missing your frankestein builds man... nice video hope see more soon, cheers
I'm just happy to see you uploaded another video, I've missed you! :3
Love to see more content in the near future. Love this channel. Please create more content.
Great video mate!
Thanks for sharing.
Ive just come across this but, this is the most British tech video Ive ever seen, that workstation is glorious.
I've been waiting so long for your return!
Great video! :)
1: Happy to see that the PSU held! I don't have any thoughts than with my Ryzen 3 1200- 8GB single DDR4- Sapphire RX 570 4GB small- 350W Corsair PSU combo, I can even probably upgrade to double the ram and a Ryzen 7 2700X. :D
2: I used to test GPU's in an OC'd (2.27GHz) C2D E6300/2x2GB 800MHz DDR2 MSI board, and surprised me how good it held up in games like Black Mesa, Carmageddon Reincarnation.
3: Great choice of music, I really like it!
This was such an enjoyable video. Good on you! Subbed
it’s been a while ! Glad you came back
Missed your videos! Enjoyed this one 👍
Dude finally returned! Welcome back!
I was wondering what happened to you and I got worried, welcome back :)
Man that was pretty cool. Thanks for sharing and God Bless.
I think I just totally fell in love with that Palit 4060ti storm card ⚡ Spectacularly interesting video though I must say. The ultimate mix of old and new.
Ah, this made my morning, welcome back king
The return of the king! So glad to see another video from you
Watching you put that brew down, was a godsend...
I USED TO HAVE THIS PC!!! except it was a Core 2 Quad Q6600. it was from my grandpa, fixed it up, and used it two years for my gaming and work PC. seeing the case again makes me nostalgic
I had one of these Dell's with a Q6600 core2quad. I loved this machine. It was actually usable until I built my first gen Ryzen in 2017 (needed an ssd the last few of the years). I always thought it would be cool to put a modern PC inside one of these boxes. I actually still love the aesthetic of them.
Loved the video, exactly why we all watch your channel, can just hear you scream 'Aha, it's alive!' Glad to see you back, you completely mad bar steward. Think I'll watch it again and crack open a bottle of beer.
I was thinking about this channel yesterday and there it is a new vid pop up. ❤
Dang I haven’t seen this channel in years, it’s just as wonderful
perfect combination but you forgot to clean that old dust from motherboard and fan
Glad to see you’re back. I’m still enjoying my “break” 😂
Been waiting for a video, glad to see one :)
Great. I have a couple of Pemtium 4 in my collection of computers. One was a old IBM business pc board that I used as a very simple windows 2003 server. It never had a issue. The other is in a actual IBM server that used to run a pabx. People criticise the p4 but they did a job and kept working.
I love this channel.
Nice to see you upload . Welcome back =) .
Love these kind of videos!Keep it up!