50 Surprising Pokémon Stats
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- 50 Pokémon base stats that don't make any sense
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#Pokemon - Hry
Onix is actually a masterpiece of design. Its design makes for a very intimidating Pokémon for children who are fighting the very first gym of the series, but its poor stats make it a very easy opponent to defeat. Basically, he is the Pokémon equivalent of fathers letting their children win a fight just to boost their self-confidence
Rock type is also both resistant to a lot of common early game types but at the same time has loads of weaknesses, including to two starter types. So it’s a perfect type for teaching new players about type effectiveness too
@@Owain9797 What you said, PLUS it has awful special (defense), meaning even if you picked Charmander as a kid, you can spam non-effective embers and still have a realistic chance of beating it.
Onix is essentially Pokémon’s Whispy Woods.
@@anthonydavid3348 honestly, I believe that Onix has an even better design than Whispy Woods, since the latter doesn't even pretend to be menacing, while Onix looks threatening, but it's actually a piece of cake, provided you picked the right Pokémon of course
@@lorenzomartinelli7665 That's a fair opinion
Reminder that Tinkaton doesn't even get a super-effective attack to use against Corviknight. 😂
That won't stop the little munchkin from slaughtering every corviknight in Paldea 😈
Gigaton Hammer should have been super effective against Steel-types.
@@jorgegonzalezavila9376 or atleast Corviknight
It just want to make it suffer
It uses the hammer to knock rocks into it. We do not have a golf move yet.
Speed Stat isn't entirely just how fast they move, it's more about how fast you attack. For example vikavolt is fast, but he just might need a long charge up for an attack, hence low stats in speed
That's a good theory. I just figured it was based on reaction time, meaning Pokemon that can move fast lore-wise yet have low Speed stats are either slow at processing the command, or are trying to not disobey immediately, causing a pause.
Attack and special attack are some of the least defensible ones, speed is one I think is the easiest to defend because these are combat stats being show not stats for how they move at traveling speed. A lot of super fast things are handicapped by smaller arenas and the like where turning is required more frequently
Yeah, it has always felt more like reflexes than top speed. A featherweight boxer would have a higher 'speed' stat than a sprinter because they would beat them to the punch.
The one that I also feel is misrepresented is defence, HP is the stat that determines how much damage something can take and defence is how difficult it is to land a good blow. Whether that be an evasion tank or in a full set of armour. Kartana, very tricky to hit properly but can't take much damage
Speed=Reaction Time you could say
Exactly, travel speed vs combat speed, I’ve seen this brought up a lot in power scaling discussions.
In Spiritomb’s case, it does make sense that it isn’t overwhelmingly powerful.
It was introduced in Gen 4, when the typing of Ghost/Dark had no weaknesses.
That type combo was built for a slow, defensive Pokémon.
I always figured Tinkaton’s hammer was it’s species way of compensating for it’s own weak physical attack, which is where Gigaton Hammer comes in. Tinkaton itself is naturally weak, but is smart enough to create tools, more specifically the hammer to fight, creating it’s signature move in the process.
Yeah, basically the hammer has a whopping attack stat, but the ability Truant. XD
@@cintronproductions9430 Exactly, i’m gonna assume not being able to use it for one turn is because that hammer is heavy AF
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I'm a big fan of the theory that pokemon stats are representative of their abilities specifically in battle. For example, Latios and Latias may be able to fly as fast as jets but it would be hard to make it to top speed in the confines of a battle.
That at least makes sense
@@thedragonwarrior5861 Agreed.
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Logical.
It could also mean who's faster at attacking
For any of the attack/special attack stat facts, remember that any pokemon before Diamond and Pearl had to reflect that the physical special split hadn't happened. This is why Shedinja has high attack, ghost was physical type attacks.
This means nothing when it comes to the stats. Tons of Pokemon had high Physical or Special they couldn't use due to types being hard-locked to physical or special. Such as Flareon having an insanely high attack, but no physical STAB fire moves it could use to take full advantage of it. The Gengar line also has high special, but all the ghost moves are physical so it never gets to take full advantage of its main stat. Etc, etc.
The funny thing about Pidgeot is that in Pokémon Masters, Blue is seen chasing his, saying something like “it just ran off really fast”, meaning that Blue may have run at Mach 2
In german, the speed stat is called "Initiative", which describes the ability to REACT fast, not to run fast.
Also, the japanese word translates to Agility
Yeah, "speed" can be very misleading, dexterity and initiative explain it better... Though, they may not be that easy to understand at first
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Those are all different stats in dnd
I didn't know that! thank you!
DM: “roll for initiative.”
Dedenne then proceeded to roll 6 straight nat 20’s purely to assert dominance.
For speed you left out Dragonite. It has dex entries stating it can circle the globe in 16 hours (timezone changes aside to be assumed) and has multiple instances referencing this (like the mail dragonite zipping around in the first movie) yet it has a base speed of 80. This is a speed stat tied with Mamoswine, a giant Pig-Mammoth, with short thick legs.
I completely forgot about that!!! Dragonite is so fast in the anime but slow as hell in the games wtf
My main explanation for these stats is that in the dex entries it references the pokemon's max speed, not taking into account the pokemon's acceleration, and while in battle its pretty hard to accelerate for 10 seconds without being attacked.
It learns extreme speed
Goodra also has a speed stat of 80, meaning it should swim around the globe in 16 hours.
I mean
Have you seen wild boars or elephants charge? Theyre pretty fast for such chunky creatures! They have to be speedy to gore their opponents with their tusks
To put the speed of Pigiot into context, Mach 2 is the max speed of the Euro fighter Typhoon with afterburners on. Fighters normally don't fight at their max speed though. Sure the F-15 and Mig-29 have the bird beat at around Mach 2.3 and the Foxhound at nearly mach 3 but damn that bird is insanely fast.
And the F22 Raptor, widely regarded as the scariest modern jet, can SUPERCRUISE at around Mach 2.5
(I don't believe the Foxhoud actually reached Mach 3 lemme look it up real quick)
Okay i looked it up and it could TECHNICALLY reach mach 3.2 with engine damage but actually reached mach 2.8
I never saw the speed stat as a Pokémon's physical speed, but rather their reaction speed in battle. So to me it makes sense that you see Pokémon like Varoom and Veluza moving at high speeds in Scarlet and Violet despite their bad speed stats; there are two different kinds of speeds in the game.
I've come to better terms with a lot of weird Speed stats once I started looking at it as a "reaction time" stat instead. This line of thinking gets much more obvious with Dugtrio, it ducks quickly back into the ground before you can hit it, like whack-a-mole.
Also explains why fat cat Purugly can outspeed jet dragons.
I was getting really annoyed also with wugtrio, because it kept outspeeding and ohkoing mega rayquaza. I feel this theory doesn't really apply, as wugtrio's heads stick out of a rock.
Especially w/ Celestela - Nothing said it didn't take time getting around to flying at high speeds.
Exactly... Speed in Pokemon is reflex .... Not moving speed...
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I'm pretty sure a Pokémon's Speed stat does not equate to the speed at which they can run, fly or swim around. I think the Speed stat moreso equates to their action speed in battle, if that makes any sense. The same could actually go for all stats but Speed most of all
Yeah...reaction speed vs travel speed...a creature can definitely have one without the other.
Yeah, I've always had the thought of the stats only being battle stats. Basically the rules of the ingame game of battles.
Would also explain how Pokémon weak to water can swim in it. They aren't allergic to water, just take more damage from being splashed with it inside of the battles.
Yeah I would agree with this
@@thesecretsuspects yeah, exactly! The rules of Pokémon battles don't have to be the same as the rules of nature in the Poké-verse. I think regular water is different from water originating from Pokémon moves, which definitely has some kind of elemental magic involved which is why it can damage other Pokémon, while rain or swimming in water does not. At least, that's what I like to believe ^^'
It's reflexes, I guess, so that would mean that the cat doesn't have greater movement speed than a plane, rather it has greater reflexes since it's a cat, hence the term "cat-like reflexes."
Still doesn't excuse Vikavolt being slower than Grubbin
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Onyx makes perfect sense. It's the ace of the first boss in the game. They wanted it to be intimidating but manageable.
In that same game it's also part of the Elite 4, so...
@@therexyogaming .....Twice
I'd say speed refers to reaction speed rather than movement speed. Diglett and Dugtrio have really good reaction speeds.
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I thought the same, but how would a move like tail wind five better reaction time? (It adds winds on your side of the field to move faster)
@@trueredpanda1538 Because it's physical reaction speed, not mental reaction speed.
@@nullpoint3346 I know, I was pointing it out tail wind to the main commentor, basicly, I thought mental speed could be the case 10 years or so ago, but obviusly, sinch I do mention tail wind, I am more then aware.
A yes hisuan braviary, a bird, reacts slower than cottone, makes sense
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If you can catch it, Veluza literally uses Fillet Away before attacking you (that is why there is a 2-second timer between when it notices you and attacks you)
And it does actually heal the flesh when entering battle
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@@melvondrewhite2674 they did that since Sword and Shield, almost all trade evolutions are available in the wild, those are not in the wild can be caught in the dens
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Rayquaza has 95 of speed and Salamance has 100.
Simisear, Simisage and Simipour all have 101 of speed.
Laughs in Garchomp with 102 speed
Oh yeah Miltank has a higher Speed stat than Rayquaza💀
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Purugly is easy to explain. Like most cats, they get the zoomies.
Leafeon's dex entry explains why it's stronger than a rock.
Cells similar to those of plants have been found in its fur. Its hard tail can fell a large tree with one stroke, and the tail's sharpness exceeds even that of a sword crafted by a master.
I feel like it is worth noting that speed doesn’t mean how fast you can move, it’s more how long it takes to “charge up” an attack. That’s why electrode and regieleki are so fast despite being just spheres, one is a primed bomb, and the other is just made of electricity, no “charging up” necessary, just touch ‘em and it’s used Thunderbolt.
Just want to point out that the examples you gave aren't great. In Pokeathlon, Electrode is one of the fastest pokémon (like, he can roll fast).
You've also got Pokémon like Accelgore, where it's clear that they're just able to move quickly (as shown in Pokepark 2), which is why they have such speed.
its not about attack charge its about attack response. A fast pokemon is one that can navigate and respond well to commands efficiently, HENCE electrode and Regieleki, one is litteral lightning and the other is a Sphere is an extreme ease to maneuver and orient itself as needed on a dime. meanwhile a pokemon can fly as fast as a jet plane sure, but that doesn't mean it can stop, orient itself for attack and then start moving again efficiently in a combat scenario.
My head-cannon on the "Speed" Stat, is that it's more accurate to consider it the "Mobility" or "Recovery to Attack Again" Stat. It's not actually about how fast the Pokemon's maximum distance-over-time is, but how well the Pokemon can react to things around it.
- Rhyhorn has low speed because if it attacks something, say by tackling it, it takes comparatively forever, say 10~20 seconds, to get back into a position where it can do so again.
- Vikavolt can move around quickly, but it's special attacks take time to charge up, and it's physical attacks rely on it opening and then shutting it's pincer's.
- Escavalier is in a similar position to Rhyhorn, requiring time to remove it's arm-lances from whatever they get lodged into, and, with a pair of long sticks stuck to itself, it's kind of hard to maneuverer around obstacles, such as enemies (or trees), to get into a position to properly attack your foes.
- Varoom has the issues of motor vehicles do, they're great for causing destruction via speed-based impacts, but they need a minute to reposition themselves so that they have a chance to hit you a second time.
- Veluza, same issue as with Varoom. Great vertical acceleration, poor turning capabilities.
- Wiglett & Dugtrio may live half-underground, but they are able to move around anywhere, change direction on a dime, and could theoretically, in a game with a completely unrelated set of combat mechanics, attack near constantly in combat.
This does seem to fit with your explanation, KelKav, it's just more detailed and gives more detailed descriptions.
Like rockets need time to get their max speed
Instead of 'speed' I like to use "Reaction Time". That's why Slowpoke/bro/king and Slakoth are slow. Takes a little bit for them to understand and translate lol.
That's why Psychics are generally fast: they can translate better. And electricity doesn't think, it just acts.
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This is so true
The Speed stat doesn't represent or map to movement speed, it's _attack_ speed. It's your quick draw in the cowboy duel, not how fast your horse runs. Higher speed just means that when you and your enemy are both making attacks with the same amount of setup/telegraphing at the same time, yours connects first.
What I think regarding the speed stat is that it is also meant to show how fast a Pokemon can react. Explaining why rhyhorn's speed is low implying it can't react fast to incoming attacks.
So why is machamp, a Pokémon who can punch at mach speeds, a measly 50, or Decidueye who can shoot arrows faster than a blink, only at 70 speed?
i dont think, you know what the speed stat does...
@@detmaz bruh, what I said was to define the speed stat. For the instance if i didn't know what the speed stat did , i wouldn't even be on the video commenting my views. 😂😂 I think you don't know how the common sense works.
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I think the speed stat refers to reaction time rather than movement velocity. Celesteela for instance can move crazy fast but doesn't look like it can react in time to its surroundings
And also needs time to get it's max speed. Like real rockets
I'm pretty sure SV proves this is canon. Veluza doesn't have a particularly impressive Speed stat, iirc, but it jets at you like a bat outta hell on the overworld.
I think the physical attack stat is more canonically based on their ability to utilize physical pokemon attacks, not just the ability to break or destroy things.
I think that the Pokemon Speed Stat is actually referring to it’s reaction time rather than how fast it can move from point A to point B. Because Speed doesn’t effect if you can avoid - *outrun* - an attack, that’s dependent on Evasion. But speed DOES affect turn order, and in PLA, having a higher speed stat also effects how easily you can get off multiple turns in a row. To compare it to TTRPGs, that’s not movement speed, that’s initiative.
I think (regarding the Speed stat) that it actually represents how fast a Pokémon can't react, rather than how fast a Pokémon can move. Celesteela, for example, moves very fast, but a rocket ship probably takes some time reacting to turn and so on. That Vikavolt is so slow is still dumb, though.
I have a feeling that he'll mention Vikavolt when it comes to speed. The reason why Vikavolt is so slow is because it's a railgun, which are known to be insanely slow to fire
Exactly! The Speed stats make more sense if it defines how quick it is to make a move in battle rather than travel speed in the wild. Although it looks like devs that create the pokedex entries probably just make them based off of their designs only.
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2:43 fun fact! Machamp can easily move mountains
Wait what
An explanation that I came up with to explain the oddity of speed compared to dex entry is that it isn't straight speed but instead agility. Rhyhorn can move pretty fast in a straight line, but it can't turn quickly. Glarian Zapdos can run very fast but as seen in the chase with it it doesn't take turns easily and it must slow down to turn. Dedenne on the other hand can easily turn without losing speed.
That's just straight up the case, all most all other translations of pokemon call it something like that instead of speed.
The problem with Flareon is that Eeveelutions share the same stats but placed differently. All the others already have the 130 elsewhere but Attack. So for Flareon it was Attack obviously.
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7:11 I mean to be fair the Pokédex doesn’t say that it does the maneuvers quickly
Maybe it does them in slow motion idk
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My thoughts on Onix are that RBY wanted to stay true to the iconic Pokémon that the gym leaders were associated with (mostly) and couldn't think of a better way to let Brock have his Onix in the first gym than to make it that weak. I'm not excusing their poor decision-making, but it was a thought I had for a possible explanation.
Ninjask having half the defense of Nincada makes a lot of sense when you consider that it's shedding it's outer... skin? exoskeleton? I don't know what the right word is. And then that shed reanimates into Shedinja. it lost its armor to evolve, leaving it in two parts, the squishy inner bug and the hard outer shell of armor.
HP would be the amount of damage a pokémon can take (Wailord and whale blubber or Hariyama and body fat. Easy to cut or bruise, but you've got *a lot* to try and cut through before you do any meaningful damage (infections not included))
Defense would be how much damage the pokémon takes from an attack (Rock and Steel)
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6:53 a logical explanation could be that Vikavolt „lost“ the ability to dig through the ground, which was obviously grubbin's forte
I'm positive the reason Onix's stats are what they are stems from a possibility that Onix was already decided to be included in Brock's team and had its stats balanced around this near the end of development
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My theory is that a pokemon's speed stat is it's reflexes and not the actual speed a pokemon can fly/run/swim at. It explain why Veluza and Varoom are fast outside of battle but become insanely slow in battle. It also explains Purrugly's speed stat. Purrugly is a cat and has cat-like reflexes.
11:00 Jumpluff is a light creature that moves with the wind, but iron treads is a heavy like elephant that is surprisingly fast.
Modern tanks like the Abrams MBT (for example) weigh something like 60 tons and have a max speed of 40mph
7:56 , It's not a racing competition, it's a walking competition.
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I think the reason Kartana gets a super high defense stat is the same reason swords are very strong. A paper thin blade should still hold up even though there’s not much there.
10:58 this one makes a lot of sense tbh. Jumpluff abuses the wind to its advantage, like the first time I saw the hoppip fly away at the speed of light by getting taken away by the wind in game.
"Onix is so weak"
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I think in the case of Nincada, it makes sense cuz Nincada has the shell still on and it shed the shell (shedinja) to evolve into ninjask so its defense is a combination of both Ninjask and Shedinja defense (each have 45)
Huntail and Gorebyss seem to have high defense stats due to living deep underwater, where their skin and bones can withstand the extreme pressure.
Also, Nincada's and Ninjask's weird defense stats seem to be references to the life cycle of the cicada in real life. Cicada's spend like 90% of their lives as nymphs that live underground and have harder exoskeletons to protect them from predators. As adults, they only live for a few weeks (compared to years as nymphs). Ninjask's frailness seems to reference how brief an adult cicada's lifespan is, while Nincada's endurance does so for the relatively long time spent as a nymph. And then Shedinja is the leftover shell that looks alive but isn't, hence the Ghost typing and 1 HP.
12:17 I can explain leafeon, since it’s leaves, and leaves are naturally bendable and flexible, it’s not really taking the brunt of a punch, it’s bending it’s body around the punch. 😂
Easy, crumble it
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For the record, Tinkaton's hammer is made from Pawniard/Bisharp, NOT Corviknight. It's a "common knowledge" thing even Tinkaton's own dex entry (if people actually read it) states it's a DARING (risky) move for it to toss stones at Corviknight.
Nevermind that on-top of having poorer stats than the bird's defenses, Tinkaton also does not learn any super effective moves against it!
In the scarlet pokédex it says, “This intelligent Pokémon has a very daring disposition. It knocks rocks into the sky with its hammer, aiming for flying Corviknight.” I do not know where you got the information from though.
I subscribe to the idea that despite Corviknight’s entry mentioning it has predators, and Tinkaton’s talking about it attacking Corviknight, Tinkaton is NOT a predator of Corviknight.
Tink’s Scarlet entry describes it as having a “daring disposition,” which would imply it has a habit of doing things that are disadvantageous for it, such as pestering a stronger Pokemon, Corviknight, for no good reason.
Personally,since bird feathers can come off when a bird is startled i think Tinkaton gets the metal for its hammer by startling Corviknight and picking up the fallen metal feathers
@@subjectomicron5445 that's genius thinking
It possibly finds larges objects that it tosses at corvi which also results I fallen metal that is used as parts for a hammer
@@a1marine105 thanks but i dunno about genius,it's just common sense
I subscribe to the fact that Pokedex entries are just bullshit made up. Theres so many ridiculous examples like Magcargo and Gardevoir.
@@JayceCH. Pokédex entries being made up is actually canonized by the galar fossils- scientists made up historical backstories for them despite being accidental lab fusions that never existed in history
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I like to think speed refers to how fast an attackers attack can connect with an opponent rather than agility and one example is how vikavolt needs time to charge an attack from it's mandibles while being incredibly fast
One Pokemon left unmentioned here that has weird stats is Flamigo. It's got a BST of 500, which is the same as Mon like Alakazam, Aegislash, Wailord, and Calyrex. You can find Flamigo before you fully finish the *tutorial*.
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That's how just goes the power creep in every generation. For example, you could get a Shiftry before the first gym in gen 8. And then you could get for it crazy level 1 moves since reminding pokemon a move in gen 8 is 100% free.
This is why gen 9 is ridiculous. Power creep, weird or stupid designs for certain Pokémon and people and a general uncanniness to the whole thing.
@@theserpent8667 Its definitely not the best installment, but it gave me Tinkaton and Ceruledge, so I can't complain.
@@Watermelon-Pizza It does have some cool Pokémon, so I'll give you that.
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I like to think of speed more as reaction time. Like, you can react faster that’s why you attack first, instead of literally being fast.
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2:36 that was a funny animation. Machamp protecting his/her kid like that was a bit cute.
I think Onix needs a reginal form to be it's "True" form. Like the reason it's so weak elsewhere is that the soil has the wring elements or something.
its a limestone onix or like a basalt onix which is rock fire and an obsidian steelix which is fire steel near a volcano
Or make one of its abilities huge power, and make its attack base 60
Anime had a crystal onix. Rock fairy would fit
To the Speed-Stat.
I never thought of it meaning the "literal" speed they could reach.
In my native language, the speed stat is called "initiative" which fits more in the sense of not meaning the literal travel speed but instead the ability to attack first.
For Celesteela's low speed compared to how it's described in its Dex entry, I think of it like this: if a rocket ship gained sentience, it wouldn't be able to move in any direction required for battling very quickly except straight up (in which case it is, you know, a rocket ship)(and before anyone says "well what about when it uses Fly?" a rocket doesn't take off instantaneously once ignition starts))
As a matter of fact, that second bit probably also applies to other Pokemon with low speed stats compared to their Dex entries (ae: Galarian Zapdos being able to run 180 mph but has a base speed of 100. Accelerating to that speed in a battle scenario (for anything that isn't a space virus) would be very hard for something of that size. This is why I like to think of Pokemon's speed stats as Dexterity stats (as in Dungeons & Dragons Dexterity)
Dugtrio’s Pokédex states that it can pull it head in and out of the ground at the speed of light, so 120 speed is actually lower than it should be
Dex entries aren't that trustable since they can be quite exaggerated like magcargo being hotter than the sun or tyranitar destroying mountains to make it's home
I don't think "speed" is meant to model something top speed, but rather a combination acceleration, agility, and reaction time among other things in that general umbrella. That doesn't excuse all of your examples but it does for a handful of them
Yea like escavelier makes sense cause its a bulky armoured bug holding two spears.. try doing that .. itll lower ur reaction time significantly
Then also, miltank having higher sod then rayquaza.. diglett having more sod than zekrom, reshiram and giratina
Definitely, it also explains Vikavolt, as railguns take time to charge up before firing. Travel speed does not equal fighting speed
@@Siu2444 I can accept Diglett's speed stat...that is literally its point...it is a whack-a-mole.
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The speed stat is more akin to reaction time/ reaction speed, as well as wind up time. Reactions are different in every species, so it varies a lot, but not all pokemon are able to justify their speed stat by reaction time alone. Vikavolt and Escavalier fall more onto the wind up time category for speed. They may have a good reaction time, but when they go to move, they have to gather energy just to move. Escavalier has heavy armor, so it would need to lug itself and slowly accelerate. When it comes to the Hisuian psychic mons, they are probably moreso having to deal with their psychic powers, seeing as they originally werent psychic types before. Their thoughts are more expansive and possibly slow them down, but basic movements they can still perform with relative ease
I have an idea for some of the speed examples, the speed that is shown as a stat could be more accurately defined as reaction time, how quickly something large runs at you from a distance will less effect how quickly they attack and more effect the power of it
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Nincada having 90 Def while Ninjask has 45 Def makes sense if you take into account that Shedninja also has 45 Def.
You forgot one drowzee has an insane power of making Mikey fall in love with them😂😂
Congrats on 2 million, I’ve been watching for so, so long. I’m a senior in high school now, and I’ve been watching since six grade at least. Well before 1 million at the least
I think I came up with an interesting competition video for you and PM7. A race around the Paldea Region, from Lighthouse to Lighthouse, avoiding the Ocean, and whenever you encounter a Shiny (with a sandwich between each lighthouse to change up the Shiny Chance type), you must first catch it, then go all the way back to the Lighthouse you had been to last and continued from there.
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Congrats on 2 million!
I have an idea for some of your other more recent but now out dated videos.
IE, history of types, you could do shorts talking about the new changes
Great video Mikey and good job on 2 mil!
The editor of this video was absolutely jilarious! Good job, @KeeLoker!
I've always thought of speed in Pokémon to be closer to overall dexterity and reaction time, which would be more helpful in a battle than just running real fast. Some of these Pokémon have absolutely insane top speeds, but they can't necessarily achieve those feats of speed within what would be the equivalent time of a single turn in a Pokémon battle.
Ohhhhh dude, so many more pokemon speed stats make sense if you think of it more as a ttrpg dexterity stat. I mean, there’s still exceptions, but reframing it like that seems legit helpful.
The speed stat I feel makes more sense in regards to reaction time than actual top speeds. The others I could understand, even if just poking fun at some.
I swear I could not stop laughing when Michael asked if dedenne was the flash!!! And also, I still don't get how purugly is faster than jets!!!
Glad to see he’s still posting after I stopped watching him and forgot him, I’m really happy to see he’s still on here.
The Speed stat isn't movement speed, it's attack/action speed and possibly maneuverability. This is reflected in the German translation, in which the Speed stat is called Initiative. High movement speed doesn't help much in combat if you can't quickly start, stop, or change direction.
Being agile is just that. What why Agility boosts "speed".
Wow. Initiative. That reminds of Dungeons and Dragons. Characters get the stat called dexterity. Then at the beginning of each battle, players figure out initiative. That is the order characters go in while taking turns. Each character rolls a twenty sided dice and adds their dexterity. Then the turn order goes from the highest number to lowest number. It is like speed in Pokemon except more elaborate. Dexterity is used for a lot of stuff in Dungeons and Dragons, as do the other stats. However boosting initiative stands out as the most prominent use. It can benefit all players regardless of class. Some classes do have high dexterity though, such as rogue and ranger.
The speed stuff makes some sense to me. Rather than looking at it in terms of how fast they can run or fly, it may be more about reaction time. They can move faster than they can react or they can react faster than they can move.
My family plays a table top RPG called Champions (it's a superhero game). In Champions, the speed of a character is multiplied out of combat making it so your character can fly at hundreds of miles per hour, but fights at a little over normal human speeds. That's how I see pokemon speeds; combat speed and out of combat speed.
I've always thought of combat speed and travel speed as separate in Pokemon. Like, sure Escavelier is crazy fast when flying, but it's already carrying max capacity with that armor, and it can't quite maneuver it's body at those speeds. It's got big clunky spikes for arms after all!
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Shedinja has defensive stats
Shedinja has around 5 hp in mystery dungeon and a comically high defence as to where the regular attack always does 1 damage
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When you were talking about Mercrow and Blastoise one can let you into 1 million pieces one
Can peck your eye out
Poliwrath being able to swim across the ocean doesn’t sound so impressive when you realize it’s a water type
Ay! Congrats on 2mil man! You definitely deserve it, you’re one of my favourite Pokétubers!
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I think speed might have something to with reflexes rather than being purely how fast you can move.
Love the video and keep up the great work mikey
Since you mentioned Kommo-O I cleverly named mine in Pokémon GO Sagittarius after the warrior dragon
I guess for Murkrow and Blastoise, it being *special* attack is probably the main reason for this, since Murkrow is a black magic bird thing and special stats are often associated with magic and spiritual aspects of the Pokémon, but still….
I have a feeling Speed is just alertness like how quick they can realize it’s their turn in combat
I just realized that maybe the speed stat is an average speed of the species and also the speed when the pokemon is running. if they use moves like extreme speed or doublt team they of course run much faster ,but i can also see the thing like they evolved to run faster then preditors or that the other species is just old and lost some energy running
I think a lot of the weird speed stats are because the speed stat is in reference to their speed in _battle,_ not necessarily while they’re just chilling
Yeah, I've always had the thought of the stats only being battle stats. Basically the rules of the ingame game of battles. They're there to ensure that nothing is too outrageous.
Would also explain how Pokémon weak to water can swim in it. They aren't allergic to water, just take more damage from being splashed with it inside of the battles.
@@thesecretsuspects I actually think the water thing is because they're magic animals
They're not weak to just regular water but water magic
This would also explain why Pokemon capable of performing certain actions cannot learn moves based on the same action like Fly or Bite, they can't use their magic in that way to damage another Pokemon
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That's the pun BTW. In case you never knew why it was dragon type.