Has the Trangia Spirit Burner FINALLY Met It's Match??? - ITSELF?!
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- We all love the Trangia, so let's put it up against....the Trangia :)
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Amazing how my small country has impacted the world of bushcraft. Trangia, Fjällräven, Casström, Hultafors, Fällkniven, Mora, Gränsfors, Bahco etc. I had that messkit when I was in the army back in 1990. Still got it. Have of course the civilian also. Prefer the military one for stews and alike.
The military is better in cold weather. If you look at the burner, you will see a well around the top. If it's cold, put some fuel into it and light the stove there. It helps the stove prime itself.
This is what I was told by a Swedish ex-soldier.
You can use the winter kit with civilian version to speed up priming in cold weather. 👍
My trangia is 43 years old. There is a shallow well around the top. I let a small amount of fuel drip into it. Always have. Works well for me.
I think modern ones have the shallow well too.
True, that is how we are doing it...
@@kennethcarter5720 you beat me, my Trangia is only 37 years old.
@@michelcapel 👍
The Home Depot is where I got the "O" rings for my military stove , just take your old one in to match them up.
I'd think any o ring should work....
The civilian one has a big orange yellow flame that will atract the enemies attention and is a target for enemy fire. The military one has a nice lower blue flame which works well for stealth.
I have a military model (I don't even have a commercial one so far though I might get one some day) with the older (pre-WW2 I think) stainless steel can. Quite heavy but very reliable and practically indestructible. There's also a later version with an aluminum can which is a bit lighter but not as durable or hygienic as the stainless one. It's nice how everything fits in a relatively small space, it even came with it's own fuel bottle that also fits in the can with the burner so the whole thing is the size of the mess kit as the pot stand/wind screen fits around the can.
By the way it's kind of funny that when I was in the Finnish military we used commercial model Trangias. I guess they didn't sell the military version out or maybe they were no longer made when the Finnish army bought theirs. We were issued one Trangia for every two people.
I've used the military one to brown a pound of hamburger, heat a quart of tomato sauce and have enough left to boil the spaghetti for four people with one load of fuel.
In short, you can cook an entire meal versus boil two cups of water for a dehydrated meal.
Thanks for the video!! My Trangia and firebox nano are with me 100% of the time that I'm away from the house.
They are both the same diameter of burner, place them together, the civilian burner 0 ring and simmer ring work on the army burner, civilian slightly out performs the army one, and clear any blocked jet with a needle. Also for those who have a trangia triangle and find a bottle cup will not sit on the top of the three protrusions, use a 125mm PC fan guard of ebay and cut it down to size for a few bucks, then this will sit over and around the three protrusions.
There is a problem with the military version, at least in Europe. You can buy them very cheap but often times the lid is broken.
A couple years ago, I lost my trangia, so I bought a new one. When I found my old one I continued using it and stored the newer one filled. As a replacement maybe if the other breaks. But after another frw years I sold the newer one. Because I will never have to replace my original.
I smiled when I saw your video. Of course you will never find a true competitor. The trangia is simply perfect and perfect in its simlicity. You will always find other stoves that are lighter or have more power. Better at certain points. But the trangia will always be the best over all.
By the way. Have you ever tried the winter attachment?
Hey Ernie best place I found is a swimming pool Supply store they sell flat washer seals for between pipe connections. A little vinyl adhesive works great to adhere it to the cover. Hope this helps. It did for me.
In the Netherlands, you can buy in almost every supermarket...alcohol, white gas and lamp oil..so it works...but gas canisters, the modern type,...is a lot of driving. Supermarket on foot....
I have had a military Trangia for 20-plus years, and only got the civilian one about 10 or so years ago. I do prefer the civilian one because 1) smaller and will fit in a Canteen Store cup stand/grill, 2) the summer ring, and 3) it will fit nicely in one of those plastic camping cups (the one with the stub handle and measurement marks inside) with the simmer ring. Cut a circular pot scrubber to go on top to keep it from rattling and use a standard plastic snap cover like you get on cans of dip (I prefer Zapps) to cover. Fits perfect. You will have to notch the cover to fit round the handle, but it makes for a way to carry the stove, and gives you an extra cup.
What are "dips"?
@@jimbodini9512 Cans of dip for chips. Same diameter as a can of peas.
@@redstickrant those are two very strange things to provide as a reference.
Pretty much agree the commercial trangia puts out more heat. Military version is better if you are cooking something longer with simmering like a stew.
Bit of a warning if using indoors I found the military burner puts out a lot of CO.
The Trangia triangle works with the militay one too as it clips directly onto the outside of the stove instead of fitting the ring that the civilian one sits in, i use my militay one with this.
Thanks for the video.
Good review. I got the $10 stainless steel knock off. Spent an hour stuffing the inner chamber with cotton through the holes with a paper clip. I get 8min. and 15 seconds boil with two cups. The cotton wicking makes all the difference.
Auto parts stores carry a variety of different sized o-rings. Home Depot does as well. Just take your burner lids in & match them up. Easy peasy & cheap. Though I bet the regular Trangia o-ring would fit the military lid pretty well. If so, replacements are on Amazon.
They are both great burners , you can prime them by adding some alcohol in the rim around the outside they light much plume much faster and it helps in very cold weather , great video
On the military version there is a kind of depression around the top of the base. I put a drizzle of alcohol in it to "prime" the burner in cooler weather. It helps it bloom faster. Don't know if this is by design. It works for me.
Yes that's by design. The standard Trangia also has a shallow gulley for this purpose.
Interesting video, thank you. If I wanted to carry 4 oz of fuel, I'd probably take 2 commercial Trangia burners rather than 1 military burner. It's easier to store and carry 2 small light items than 1 larger bulkier item. I'd also have the option of running two burners side by side (kettle and frying pan in use at the same time), or one after the other (cooking something that takes a long time). The benefit of the commercial Trangia is the way that everything is integrated, and it is has become "the industry standard" with several cloned versions, and several non-Trangia supports, screens, etc. that fit the Trangia burner exactly. The military version has none of these advantages. Your tests are good as far as they go, but you would have yielded different figures if you had used a different windshield, or done it in different wind conditions etc.
I stopped using The commercial Trangia. It creates holes on the side which I find being dangerous. Now, I use alternatively the Tatonka burner, Esbit burner and the Chinese knockoff. They work great and sometimes even better than the Trangia. Recently, I bought the Pathfinder alcohol burner that I am testing. So far, so good with it also
they should make a Trangia spirit pro that's military size but with the all the features of both burners. im new to Trangia but most of the stoves I've casually seen so far would allow a taller fuel tank so they could go that route and still be compatible with most of what's already out there.
I have the Swedish mess kit w/military Trangia and the commercial one too. Honestly , I just bought the military because I’m a bit of a stove collector and haven’t used it but it was great to see both compared. Something I’ve been wondering about. Thanks for another great video Ernie.
I’m always a sucker for anything Trangia, but that shirt! 😍 I need that design as a Velcro patch for my gear bag.
I've seen a video of the simmer ring being used on the military burner to simmer...
It doesn't end well, I think it deflects the flames into heating the burner and if suddenly flares up in a potentially dangerous way
Where can I get a coffee T shirt? Great video by the way.
Black Rifle Coffee Company
I had one years ago (bought as part of the Swedish mess kit in some army surplus shop) and it had some issue - it took literally ages to start boiling and any kind of cleaning did not help. So it sounds I had just bad luck.
I’ve had my Trangia for nearly 30 years and has never let me down.....brilliant
Thanks for your videos. I wonder if the military one would have boiled quicker if they were both timed from when they bloomed. If so the military may have the edge on speed on boiling larger volumes of water etc.
The Toaks Titanium Siphon Stove beats them both, in efficiency and in weight. Thanks Doctor Ernie for another informative fun video.
Can you simmer with the toaks siphon ?
@@kennethcarter5720 No you can't simmer with the Toaks. Trangia clearly wins there. Good point!
I'm looking forward to the day a screw top titanium version of the spirit stove is produced. Don't understand why it hasn't been done, there's an aluminium one.
Titanium has poor heat conductance.. Brass and Aluminium are good conductors.. helps the fuel warm up faster and burns efficiently.
@@denisripley8699 OK, but the toaks and evernew titanium spirit burners seem to work fine. The issue with them is having to burn off all the alcohol, hence the need for a screw top.
TATONKA make a summer ring which works well with the military version. Love both of them btw
A well stocked hydraulics shop can measure the original o-ring and supply you with new.
I have the Swedish stand and military Trangia burner with a German mess kit in it. My lid is cracked, so I've never used the military burner, but I need to dig it out. I have an idea for a video. Thanks, Ernie! Stay well.
How do you fit the German mess kit in the Swedish stand? Doesn't the pan handle get in the way?
@@debbiej.2168 Yes, a little bit. It fits in there but not perfectly.
Is it sacrilege to say that I have never really loved trangia stoves? 🤷♂️ I have tried a few over the years and they do what you need, but I have never really bonded.
I gave mine away after I started making various aluminum can type stoves which are much lighter and just as, if not more efficient.
One thing that I found, as mentioned by Ernie in this video, is that the more fuel you have in your stove when you light it, the longer it takes to achieve maximum heat output.
Great comparison PH and lots of valid points.
Love the channel
Got both and for me the single biggest factor is that the military beats the commercial on build quality .
The military is tough as old boots and virtually indestructible ( I've stood on it while it sat on concrete) but as you say weighs loads more.
For boiling water I use a pot with a heat exchanger bottom and that halves my boil times which ever model I use.
The Tatonka simmer ring fits the mil Trangia Burner. Don’t forgot there’s also the Swedish Ranger stove which fits the military burner.
Civilian version works for me. Very interesting video.
I believe the Trangia ( 2.88 oz ) and others have meet their match and lost. The victor is the Siphon Alcohol Stove Steampunk EDDY-X by Goshawk.( 2.39 oz ). It's Brass , weighs about the same as the Trangia. The knock out it delivers is that it blooms in 12 to 15 seconds depending on the alcohol you use.
If you can find, the stainless steel tatonka flame adjuster will fit the military burner, not much space to use in the Swedish army cook set/wind sheild though. Also I have the same type on triangular pot stand you use. Can be a pain if the pot is smaller or odd/smaller shape. To get over this I use 80 or 90 mm pc case fan (type with the screw hole in 4 corners) for better stability sitting on top of the stand
Small personal heater too. Have fun be safe
You are looking for a new o-ring, but is’nt the same burnerhead diameter, so it’s the same o-ring ?
Yep. I feel the same way.
I’ll keep my commercial and use the gas version also
A guess: the jets are larger holes around the perimeter of the burner.
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Tatonka simmer ring is an option for the Swedish Svea/Trangia M40 contract burners.
Home Depot or Ace Hardware will have the large size o-rings you are looking for
Watching the video answered the question 😁
Your local hydraulic shop should have plenty in stock of any kind of o ring
Harbor freight sells several different boxes of assorted o rings. Each assorted box is a different material. Not sure of the largest sizes though.
Just used my Swedish kit, with military trangia tonight, using HEET. It's around 10 degrees F outside, the Dinty Moore Stew was hot in less than 4 minutes. I thought It was too hot, to fast... Say I was cooking a stew from uncooked material.. I'd want a lower simmer temp to cook the potatoes and carrots. If I could find a lower heat fuel? That might work? I am still trying to find a fuel source that I can use inside. Fondue heat is supposed to be good, but I can't find that. Not many vegetarians where I live. More research needed.. I have more stew.
Ótimo vídeo Parabéns muito bom isso 👍
The military version does fit in many of the stereo type stoves
most larger ACE hardwares have a assortment of different o-rings
You always say the Trangia is made of brass, probably because it is yellowish. It's not brass, it's zinc plated steel. Brass of such a thin gauge could be crumpled by hand after a few times of heating and cooling which softens brass. There are two ways to zinc plate and these give different colors to the steel. One gives a silver blueish hue and the other a yellowish hue. Look in the screws, nuts and bolts dept. of your hardware store and you'll see what I mean. And furthermore I like your stove nerdiness! Keep going!
Wrong
I like the Coffee shirt...👍👍
Like others have said the lid tends to split. On the next , isnt this teally close to the new pathfinder.
Has anyone ever made a deeper version of the spirit burner so it has a slightly longer burn time, even as little as a fluid once would make considerable difference.
If you put some perlite in the burner, it will burn even longer... and better.
Given yellow HEAT is pure methanol, why not use denatured ethanol which is not as toxic?
Yellow Heat is cheaper and performs better than denatured but not that much.
Can you compare Trangia standard vs one with a carbon inner to fuel compartment?
What's it like to use methyl alcohol instead, what the difference, btu's color etc?
just curious but why not just buy a gallon of denatured alcohol ? it has to be cheaper
Is anybody still making a burner of a similar size (or larger) or are they all now discontinued?
Where can I get a shirt like that?
Set fixed focus then back to auto?
Agreed.
Not enough difference to me, for any increase in price.
im on a tight budget and i need some kind of cheap alcohol stove the worst thing is that i live in poland where money is worth basically nothing 1PLN is like 0.25$ and i cant buy crap without deleting bout half of the money i have for camping gear i cant even buy this
Will the army one fit in the trangia 25
Nice!
2 years and the "T" is still missing from the thumbnail
Thumbnail typo.
It's its match, not it's match. No, it doesn't make much sense to me, either, but I only use the language, I didn't invent it. Most other languages are much easier to master. 🙄
Never been a fan of trangia stoves. Way too heavy. There are stoves that are just as good and weigh a lot less than a trangia.
Don't get me wrong Ernie....love your channel and gear reviews...but could not help being a little cheeky. This is may be your third or fourth video on the next "Trangia killer" All showcasing stoves that are, in almost every meaningful way, complete Trangia rip off copies. Okay maybe taller here, bigger round there, or made from Titanium rather than brass so they can charge $50usd rather than $14usd. But they are all essentially Trangia stoves.
I say, reward the original....flawless since 1925....only copied but never really improved.
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Trangia Triangle takes both mil and normal size burners
Yo Ernie! It's pronounced "Tran G ia" not "tranjia". Ask any Swede... varsagod!
It’s crap
Man, you can tell you are running out of ideas. Your videos are becoming less and less interesting. Maybe come up with more ideas other than stoves? Sorry man, I’m probably not the only one thinking this. Take care.
I enjoy the stove videos. I watch most of the ones on coffee and I rarely drink coffee. I enjoy his style and way of presenting. I do enjoy the knife videos too…a lot.
I especially like the stoves videos.
I find all the Trangia stuff to be absolute garbage.
@@charlesmciver897 " We'll wait to see if you answer. " Will you really ! Is this your channel now, and anyone who watches the content has to answer to you ?
" So why did you even watch this video? " I really don't know, its almost as if I'm interested in camp/cook gear and therefore subscribe to PaleoHiker a guy who reviews camp/cook gear isn't it !!! and maybe I'm interested in his opinion on a piece of equipment which I find to be inferior !
Strange eh, you pompous Tit.
Please explain why ! It’s a meaningless statement unless you back it up
@@MrNetnic It was a reply to a comment which has been removed by Charles McIver due to embarrassment.
Just go to an automotive store or Mechanic for the O rings. 👍👍👍
You can also buy a O ring making kits. 👍👍👍