Watch THIS Before You Buy an Alcohol Stove!: Alcohol Stove Battle - Testing 11 Different Stoves
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I can't believe they ever boiled with all these people watching.
Hahahahah.
More exciting than watching paint dry.
Mademoiselle - if it was one colour, of course you are right - but if it were 14 different colours - all your fav colours - think you might have to change your mind some........
Totally brilliant. :D
😂
the comedic timing of the pause followed by "it's a knock off" was gold
I have used the same Trangia for over 20 years and it still works great. If I want speed I will take my Rocket stove or Jetboil with me, but that's not what the alcohol stove is all about. After it cools down I can screw back on the top with fuel in it and throw it back in the pack. I have made stoves and bought other alcohol stoves over the years but I always go back to my trusted Trangia.
This 22 min video went by very quickly. It was very well presented, interesting, and informative. Thanks!
Well thanks!
i agree! i enjoyed this video, excellent work!
It was only 15 minutes from blooming.
I have the evernew titanium. When I bought it about 5 years ago it was about $30. I have been very happy with it and, I use it to make coffee in the morning as I travel the US in my van. Very detailed testing and excellent video.
Kinda happy with my Trangia's, respectable boil times, respectable burn times, middle of the road price, and between the lid and simmer ring your able to transport fuel between burns if necessary, and you can modify the temp/efficiency if you don't need full boil. I can even live with firebox soldering both of mine for me, but I'm definitely glad I watched this all the same!
I have used the same Trangia stove for over 20 years and love it.
Where did you get
I feel like the best figure of comparison is simply 'boil time' i.e. how long you can make your pot boil. Therefore, I've created a table ordered by boil time, then wait time until boil, then weight, then cost:
3:32 (8:42) 26g $3 Lixaa
3:30 (8:17) 110g $15 Trangia
3:07 (8:37) 88g $19 Solo Stove
2:16 (8:11) 44g $19 Boundless Voyage
2:01 (7:15) 14g $0 Sprite Can DIY
1:52 (6:32) 13g $25 MBDC Elite
1:37 (7:54) 12g $10 Turbo Gnome
1:36 (6:24) 28g $3 Fancy Feast DIY
1:10 (6:45) 14g $20 MBD Elite Pro
0:59 (6:48) 36g $43 Evernew
0:00 (0:00) 50g $1 Walmart DIY (FAIL)
Observations: The most efficient stoves (longest boil time) are also those that take the longest to start boiling. Lixaa and Trangia seem the best, depending on which design you prefer, and if you care about weight. MBDC Elite or Fancy Feast is best if you don't care about efficiency and just want a quick boil.
Also - I feel like whether you use a pot stand or not can make a big difference. Pot size will definitely matter.
Best comment ever 😂
Amazed at this comment .. awesome info ..thanks
Invaluable comment considering the second thing we use a camp stove for is to boil ramen noodles for 3 minutes, it helps if the stove can actually do that. I wonder what would happen if he ran this same test with 2oz of fuel?
You cannot directly compare boil times because the boils are not the same.
If a stove has more heat output then the boil will be stronger so the stove will vaporize more water in the same time.
It is no suprise that the weakest stoves in your tests boiled water the longest since those have the weakest boil
@@martinerhard8447 I don't think that's true, the video shows that all the stoves ended their burn with basically the same temperature, so I don't think their heat trajectories during boil were very different.
Great info on alcohol stove comparison!!! Thanks for your time to compare these items!!! Excellent production!!!
I always wondered about all those stoves out there, this was really good.
why am i interested in these camping stove vids? i don't even camp.
erik berry I hate the outdoors. I am obsessed with all camping equipment.
Interested in cooking outdoors then?
It will build in your system and will eventually overtake you. The Call Of The Wild always wins in the end.
@@EM-cg4iy why hate the outdoors??
Because you are a scientist, an inventor, an artist, and a curious human being. That is why. Its not about camping. Its about how to create a heat source from such a simple device. I love camping stuff for the same reason. I have the soul of an inventor and artist. I adore this kind of stuff. Also great knowledge to build up your McGyver instincts.
You gotta love that fire box nano
Still watching this video 2 years later! Thank you for doing the work.
thank you so much for using metric system. makes me understanding your excellent measurements way easier
Fantastic video!
I'm currently looking for a good Alcohol Stove so you've saved me a lot of time.
Thanks!
Awesome video man, I’ve been considering adding an alcohol stove to my kit and really only knew about the Trangia - nice to know there’s lots of viable alternatives including a DIY option. Thank you!
Very well done! Loved it, thanks! Time well spent. 😁
Glad to see that you, lile the rest of us, have more stoves than you know what to do with.😁
Thanks for the vid!
Great vid mate and thanks for the metric measurements!
Excellent test and variety. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
I love this exhaustive coverage of alcohol stoves. Well done sir.
You Rock Bro! Whole Package, Info, Humor what else could you ask for!.
Great video. I bet this took considerable time to make. Thanks so much for the information. Great work.✌️
Great vid Ernie! You had me when I saw the Buffalo River Handbook on your shelf.
Great video. I've made loads of different types but never got round to doing a controlled burn test. Thanks.
Good video. Clear fair and informative. Thanks!
Nice test. I like the fancy feast because it doesn’t need a pot stand and works in very cold weather.
Some of my comment is not directly related to alcohol stoves but might be helpful to some folks with little experience. I wasn't aware of the Rainier tragedy noted below. Sorry to learn about that. It's obvious that methanol stoves would not be used in a mountaineering situation. I am an experienced long distance hiker but no longer am able to do that. As someone pointed out, without a proper windscreen, fuel consumption would be excessive. I learned that the hard way in Maine. I ran out of fuel due to high winds even with a wind screen and had to borrow canister fuel and a stove from Boy Scouts. My opinion based on experience is that this type stove is only suited for above freezing weather and low wind. All things being equal I would buy the cheapest style or make my own stove . In addition, I would learn to make a proper fire in case it is needed. It is always good to have a backup plan.
Il buy two white box stoves , i survived 8 months in the mountains with one0
What tragedy are you talking about?
@@carlindurfee7566 Not sure Carlin, its been a year. since I commented. I was watching a lot of equipment videos back then so I might have mixed up some comments. There have been a lot of deaths on Rainier, over 400 I believe, and I doubt if any are related to stoves. Sorry for the confusion.
After watching several videos, I built a stove using a 12 oz beer can and a 7.5 oz soda can. The bottom 1" of the beer can became the stove bottom. The soda can is the inner sleeve. The beer can's top ring minus flat part where the pull tab attaches, slips over the bottom and the short soda can cylinder. The burner jets are 5/32" holes about every 1/2"" on the outside, top of the beer can's shoulder. I also inserted the drill bit and bent the jets a bit vertically. that helped direct the flame upward. The soda can part fits tightly between the top/bottom beer can sections. I cut 4 small triangular slits in the bottom of the soda can to allow good fuel flow. I enlarged the hole in the soda can where the pull tab top was removed. The opening is about 60% of the top. Also drilled 3/32 inch holes in the perimeter of the soda can. Four small grooves in the top lip of the beer can to allow air flow if the pot is on the stove. I JB welded the beer can and the soda can top edge to the top inner area of the beer can. This may have reduced performance a bit but I wanted it to be sturdy. Weight .5 oz. So about performance.
Once ounce of denatured alcohol. Time to start of bloom - 45 seconds. Full on in 1 minute 15 seconds. After full bloom, placed 700ml titanium pot with cover on containing 2 cups tap water on a pot on a stand, 1 1/4" above stove. Time to boil 4 minutes. Total burn time, 15 minutes. Ambient temp 75F. Elevation 500ft. No wind. Follow up test. Same conditions except pot directly on stove after full bloom. Time to boil, 5 min 20 seconds. Total burn time 35 minutes with pot on the stove. That is NOT a misprint. 35 minutes during which time the boil was maintained.
I must have gotten lucky. My first stove build and performance is better than most of the versions I see on CZcams.
Maybe you better make a video, hoss. Seems like you've created a sound design.
@@ashoe865 made the videos. On my channel- Tom Loves DIY. Check them out.
@@tomlovesdiy I see your channel, but find only a "squirt cheese" can stove. Don't have this can's in my "corner of the world" to try.
Curious about your beer+soda can stove. Seems that you put the soda can upside down inside the beer can... ?
I've used small soda cans as inner sleeve inside beer cans, buts use the conventional double wall stove (kind of Trangia TB 25 clone) holes pattern, work well but not much efficient (burn time).
What confuse me is this part:
*"I enlarged the hole in the soda can where the pull tab top was removed."*
- If the soda can is upside down inside of beer can, what the purpose of this hole?
The hole are not in beer can top (where the pull tab is fit)?
and
*" Also drilled 3/32 inch holes in the perimeter of the soda can."*
-As the soda can is for create the sub-camera, what the purpose of this holes, and where is their placement in the soda can - relatively to their height?
What is it with ultra fast boil times......isn't life fast enough without worrying about boil times when you are trying to relax on a camping trip.Just chill people,these stoves boil water plenty quick enough,why rush the experience.Brilliant little stoves as a back up too if wood isn't available for a wood burning stove or it's damp where you are camping.Essential kit to keep as a back up if it isn't been used as your main cooking source.Great vid,thanks for taking the time to make it.
I enjjoy being stove free but not fire starter free.
Hey Ernie
Thanks for spending your time creating the video and stoves I hadn't heard of the ever new stove it looks good as you've pointed out shame it isn't compatible with the Trangia base.
Test flaw noted...The Trangia was placed into the Firebox Nano with the use of the "Nano Sticks" this elevated the burner as opposed to the use of the Evernew which was placed on the baseplate of the Firebox Nano with no elevation - the distance of the flames were not the same.
This caused different flame heights and different temperatures.
Great video. I like you call a spade a spade. Good methodology and honest you are an engineer.
Thank you for this truly wonderful video.
Thanks for the video! Great job boiling water. I've boiled quite a bit today myself while designing my own stove. It's kind of a cross between the Evernew and the Fancee Feast stoves, but it gets longer boil times. Glad you put those comparisons up, as it lets me know how my DIY stacks up. I got some numbers on mine today. It weighs in at 0.8oz, primes in 11s, boils 2 cups in 6:38 and burnout happens at 10:47 w/ 1oz denatured alcohol. After seeing how much people pay for the minibull stoves I'm starting to wonder if mine may actually be worth selling.
I probably have 10 alcohol stoves. Made some of them but bought most. I have small fast priming and heating, then larger slow priming but long burning ones. Love the simplicity of an alcohol stove and a yellow bottle of Heet. Thanks for the video.
That was a beautifully done test with proper scientific method. I like my trangia style fosters can alcohol stove, with simmer cap it weighs 23grams, it's 84mm diameter by 40mm height and can hold up to 3oz of fuel for longer cook times. With 1oz or less it lights super quick since it has a huge 45mm rolled edge hole in the center chamber.
I've now made several cat can stoves in different styles and sizes and they're my go to. I just don't think you can beat them for simplicity and performance.
Great breakdown. Love Tinny’s stuff. He has some crazy light stuff.
nicely done. many thanks!
I have the Trangia for over 25 years
At that time i used denatured alcohol
And it worked very well ...also burned clean...now a shelf decoration...
Those were the days
What stove are you using nowadays
Great video Ernie!👍
I watched to the end. I so enjoyed this expose on alcohol stoves. I have the Trangia, and made a pop can stoves in Scouts.
I love all things stoves. I mostly dO canoe backtripping. I have lightweight stuff, but definitely have some luxury items too.
Thank you for this video! I immediately went and purchased two of the Lixada stove. On eBay it comes with a cross member that fits into the stove for just under $10. Thanks again!
After watching about 10 of your videos I figure it's time to subscribe! Have enjoyed every one I've watched so far!
Thanks so much! Welcome aboard... :)
Super helpful video! I've been a canister stove guy for a while and have considered dabbling with alcohol stoves but wasn't sure where to start. This gets me headed in the right direction, thanks!
Good luck!
Nice Vid!!! Love to see you add the TOAKS Titanium Siphon Alcohol Stove. It’s awesome!!!
TheTrailDancerYes, It is a good one.
I have a LOT of alcohol stoves. Some DIY and some purchased. None are as good as the ready to use stove called the "Fancee Feest". The rest of my stoves just sit in a box gathering dust. Yes you can build your own and that is fun yet...for colder temps and faster bloom...go with the fancee feest.
Great job!
I modified the fancy feast stove.
For the inside can I use a Sapporo beer can cut 2 and 5/8 inches and a Bumblebee minced classic can as the base. Everything else is done in the same way. It is more stable. It can boil very quickly and the larger reservoir allows for near 20 minute cook times (I fried a steak in a cast iron skillet).
That's cool.
How much fuel does that 2⅝" hold?
Wow! Thank you! You just saved me so much research time and the mistakes, buyers remorse! Thank you! I can't believe you made watching water boil so captivating, :-) I subscribed of course!
Thank you for taking the trouble to make this video. . Love your sense of humour too. . Bravo buddy.
Some folks think this alcohol stove phenomenon is fairly new . My first one was made 55 years ago from a tomato paste can and burned moonshine . I have the Trangia and military issue Svea , but have yet to see a factory made that works better or as well as home made .
My tip for cold weather = Cut a small strip of aluminum from a can . Bend it to fit inside the stove and place a small piece of trioxane on the strip to heat the stove and get the alcohol to vaporize . This works at 50 below zero . This is a great video and much appreciated . Thanks Paleo Hiker MD .
I am curious, do you remember the design of you 55 years tomato paste stove?
Or just use the can without modifications for burn the moonshine?
Interesting does the small inner aluminium would that also help do secondary burns? Cheers
@@ipedros7 This small strip of aluminum is used to hold a piece of solid fuel to heat the alcohol and get the alcohol burning .
Without the alcohol fuel , the solid fuel would heat a metal container for tea .
Brilliant comparison vid! Fair play for doing so many lol
Great review .
i've got Trangia both civilian and the much more powerful military versions
Only you give a full time from lighting too boil
I now use a Chinese £12 jet style gas cooker 2 minutes 30 start too boil 500ml and the 100 gram fuel cartridge lasts 1 hour.
The A stoves are very light but the fuel weighs a ton.
Dude....excellent presentation!
Thanks for doing a great job editing to make this test go faster.
Skip all the tests and just use ESBIT in a BGET burner inside a Caldera Cone that fits a 2 1/2 cup Open Country aluminum pot.
Works great for me and I have 3 alky stoves to compare. My favorite is the little Kojin stove.
Great comparisons, thanks, new to the channel have to check out more
Really good pal thanks for sharing that 👍
Thank you very much for this video!
I didn’t know they worked, thanks for sharing
This was surprisingly really funny for a video about stoves
I really enjoyed your video, it's been very helpful and tells the facts about the truth ? THANKS AND I WILL BE WAITING FOR YOUR NEXT VIDEO
cheers bro.I actually being working on lately a few designs myself such as a Trangia DIY dual fuel as well as a dual fuel design that is based off a Alocs cs-13
Thank you. Mr. Stove.
Fantastic video. Thanks for posting. I subscribed!
Great video Ernie 👍. It really comes down to What are you doing with the stove. I’ve made lots of DIY stoves and I prefer the cat can stove you had. If I’m just boiling water I will bring a cat can stove. If you cut the tomato paste can in half you can make two stoves, I think the height is 5/8. This stove will be a bit slower and a longer burn time, but for me it’s not about how fast I can boil water. My overall favourite would be the Trangia burner with a FireBox Nano, just a great combo and I use the simmer ring all the time.
Thanks. That was interesting. The take-away that I have learned is that it doesn’t matter too much what you use. My cooking system is the Trangia stove and the Firebox. In you analysis you didn’t talk too much about the added usability of having an adjustable simmer lid. When cooking numerous items timing is critical. Using that feature allows you to ensure that things on the stove stay hot but not burn/scorch while you are cooking steaks on the open fire pit. Similarly, having a lid to snuff out the flame allows you to save fuel for the next time. In summary, there is more to consider than weight, time-to-boil, and consumption rate. I particularly like the Firebox system because it is multi-dimensional in that I can use twigs and branches. Or, I can use the Trangia. Or, I can use pellets,,or charcoal. Very flexible. I frequently use theTrangia w/Firebox because of convenience. It is quick to start and quick to stop. Also, there is no wood ash byproducts to dispose of. Having said that, I have watched you DIY videos because I don’t always have my cooking system with me (it requires advanced planning) and in an emergency situation like a flood, hurricane, tornado, it may be critical to boil water for first aid, drinking, or c-rats. Your demonstrations are extremely helpful. Thanks for all you do for our community.
I've always gotta cook water before & after food for hot drink & washing up so 2 stoves are my ideal.
"c-rats" ?
@@samhain9394 c-rats is a military term for the emergency food that sailors are provided to use when they have abandoned ship and need to stay alive. They have been used around for a long time and used to be pretty bad. They have improved a great deal and now are pretty decent. They are analogous to the dehydrated meals that are produced by companies like Mountain House, etc. The emergency rations that were provided by the Navy contained other things needed to stay alive until rescued. Sorry for using military jargon.
@@elderhiker7787 oh, "rations". Right.
22:31 minutes never went so quick! I am a fan of Tinny since the early beginnings of his YT channel.
Great video and very informative. ill stick with my Trangia since i can have fuel in it, and i actually use the simmer ring.
Love your stove vids! Guess im one of the weirdos 🤪
Thanks, this helped out
thanks again, i am watching again, your mouth speaks a naked truth, godbless u ,man.
Good stuff! Have literally burned gallons of fuel testing stoves. For me the Fancee Feest or "cat can" as you call it is my fave. No pot stand needed, efficient and lights in the coldest temps thanks to the wicking material. Also the have a sweet spot for the Trangia, despite it's weight.
I agree about the Trangia and DIY stoves. The Trangia is a legend, bombproof and robust. Mine is over thirty years old and is my go to stove for a day walk where I'm not so weight conscious because I don't need to have a separate fuel bottle and it has the simmer cap to snuff it out. On a backpacking trek, I use a lighter DIY stove made out of drinks cans or burn twigs in my homemade stoves (I use a 120cm Zebra billy can for base camps or a Stanley Adventure pot on a trek).
I recently ordered the Solo Stove alcohol stoves since I caught their deal around the holidays on the Titan stove. pretty anxious to get them and try em out. I'm an alcohol stove newb, I've either used wood or an MSR stove.
Super fantastic video
This is very enjoyable, since I like gear videos.
I have had good results with zelph’s stoveworks alcohol stoves.
He has alcohol stoves that do not spill out fuel, and he has worked out pot diameter for the stove selection.
I have the Companion Burner, as well, for coldest temperatures I hike and camp.
I have used it with my hardware cloth constructed folding flat wood burning camp stove he had made, as the Companion Burner.
The smallest ‘pocket stoves’ are a favorite: Starlyte Burner w/Lid
I like the looks of that MDB Elite ‘Starbucks’.
It was worth it just for the "...and you are considering watching me boil 22 cups of water." My other hobbies include watching grass grow, and timing paint drying.
in the spring, as the plants come alive, there is a magical time.
my car turns this awesome shade of green. I wait weeks watching the plants grow, then for the real magic, over 3 days, you can actually see the green form on the cars. I stopped painting when I found that I get a three-fer..... 11 months of watching the weather, 2 months of watching plants grow, then 3 glorious days of watching the car turn green. It makes watching concrete harden seem like a 10-yard dash at the Olympics.
@@dave-in-nj9393 I read this in David Attenborough's voice
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏴
@@dave-in-nj9393 This is one of the best comments I've ever come across. Thank you.
Awesome video and yes, I watched the whole video.
Good to know, and very informative video 👍 subscribed
I have a lot of alcohol burners/stoves. One that impresses me is the Toaks titanium siphon alcohol stove (really a burner-needs a separate stand). It is tiny, weighs almost nothing,and burns extremely well. One thing that stands out is that the bloom time is typically 2-3 seconds.
I watched and I ended up digging in my recycle bin. Now I have a fully functional meets my needs alcohol stove! Amazes me that I didn't have to buy anything! I have a Solo Titan twig stove and I wanted an alcohol burner to use in it when I don't have twigs or for when the titan is too hot for cooking. But now I am thinking I have good options if I make a few of these with different intensities. I plan to make a dozen different soda can stoves and vary the the number of holes and size of holes to find the perfect fry an egg stove, keep foods warm stove, turbo boiler.... anyhow, thanks! (oh and yes I do enjoy watching water boil!)
A Fancy feast stove works in sub-zero degree temps with sub-zero temp fuel. Love the Flat Cat stove design too.
I found that the cat can stoves don't work as well at high altitudes 9000+.
But I was using rubbing alcohol not denatured at the time.
For controlled cooking the Trangia or one of it's many copies is the best imo. For boiling water, for me, it's the fancy feast - easy and cheap to make.
Good job👍🏼👏🏻
Great comparison. 😎🤙
The white Box stove stand works awesome with the evernew. Easy to push away for simmering.with pot directly on stove.
hi I have experience in expedition in the far north of Canada
(fishing guide) and the most stable and perform spring, autumn ... is without question is the "fancy feast"
Notice that when the outside temperature drops, as it usually does this time of the year, titanium alcohol burners requires more effort to ignite and bloom than the Trangia (brass), since titanium does not conduct heat very well. Hiram Cook did a few test on that with different titanium burners by Toaks. This is also my experience when trying to use my Evernew burner vs the Trangia during winter. Also notice that *some* of the "knock-off" stoves (Evernew- and Trangia copies) does not have internal wicks.
If all you have is gasoline you need a titanium , betcha didden't think about that
Use a primer pan, e.g. the one from Trail designs ($ 3) for this "cold" stoves.
@@billrussell7672 Do you mean due to the temperature?
In that event, what do you think of using a small steel can - peas tin, etc, maybe?
@@ipedros7 for alcohol they use small steel pans
@@billrussell7672
If you're still alive after using gasoline, let us know how long you were in hospital.
Harkins back to the videos by the master of all things alcohol stoves Hiram Cook! Great work!
Ah yes, I miss Hiram too :)
PaleoHikerMD
Is Hiram still around?
@@PaleoHikerMD I don't think he's posting any videos anymore.
PaleoHikerMD If I’m not mistaken, I think he passed away. I agree, he tested everything thoroughly. May he Rest In Peace. -Stephen, Ohio
Buckeye Bushcrafter He appeared to have posted on Facebook in April. Hopefully he is still with us.
All these are variations on a theme. They all do the job, but for me, the difference is the construction. I use the Trangia most of the time, but any of the clones will do fine as well. They are robust. For something lighter, I just use a pop can stove that is extra tall at 2" rather than the more often seen 1-1/4". I build the double wall version. It just holds more fuel, or, about the same as the Trangia. I tested the two, and found that they both burn for about 25 to 30 minutes. Long enough to boil water for a couple cups of coffee, and to heat the tent (carefully) before I turn in or roll out. Good presentation.
Interesting comparison.👍
A time from blooming would be good because one can soon find a way to make a slow blooming stove bloom quickly thus negating any immediate advantages of one that blooms ‘naturally’.Hope that makes sense 😅
Tinny makes the SFP now (like the gnome, but lighter and no pot stand required). Didn't get 2 cups to boil on .5 oz, but 1cup will.
Out of all the alcohol stoves I have these three are used the most. For canoeing ( weight does not matter ) it's the Out-d Stainless Steel Alcohol Stove. it's 8.71 oz ( stove only ) and about 2 ,1/2 times the size of a mini Trangia. . Backpacking it's the Evernew Appalachian set ( 5.7 ounces for everything ) that I grab most of the time. I made a cat food stove from a Vienna sausage can with a tomato past can. Some carbon felt separated the two cans. Total weight 1.4 oz. The reason for the taller cans is for the additional height needed. It's used as a 2 nd heat source in a Vargo Hexagon titanium wood stove ( 4.2 oz ). Even after all of these years I still consider the , tired and true , Trangia as the standard.
I'm bored, but in a good way :-) thanks for taking the time to put this together!
I've seen so many Videos and made so many stoves i lost count.. speed and efficiency all go out the window when you're out camping.. environmental conditions like Wind, Temperature, Moisture, Elevation ect.. all make a big difference when your counting on a stove the most. I'd like to see a test out in conditions one would expect during a Hike or Camping :)
jason dundom as much as I know Ernie put a lot of time into this video. You are very correct.
Alky stoves are all fair weather friends. Alcohol has the least heat value per pound, it makes the coldest flame and gives off the most moisture. Maybe that's all you need. But MSR was founded around 1970 by some Seattle mountaineers after two of their colleagues died on Mt. Rainer from dehydration, because their gasoline stoves couldn't't produce enough heat to melt the snow that would have kept them alive. MSR still follows that legacy. "Gaz" (butane/propane mix) for 3 seasons, liquid gasoline/kero/diesel for cold and wind. Akly? No thanks. And the invisible blame flame has set many things on fire. Cheap & light, yes, but so are cold snickers bars.
@@lyfandeth you are right for sure,a windscreen is a must and if you are counting ozs ,well .
mine will make coffee and is better thin nothing , barely.
I would not want any of those long priming stoves in outdoor conditions.
@@practicalguy973 I've used several outdoors to boil water for CoCo and cook sausage and eggs.. in hot and cold rainy weather, some work well in both conditions like the (Catcan).. some barely worked at all.. some failed completely lol hence my comment for a outdoors test.
Don't be so negative..you CAN possess every alcohol stove out there. Think of it as a bucket list achievement.
Great and informative video..love watching water boil.
I know this is a bit older but I really figured you would have had more then 11 alcohol stoves. I am happy with all of mine, except the lixada brass model. I bought it as a kit because I wanted the firebox style twig stove. I opened it and where the cover on the is riveted on the simmer ring popped off. No good way to repair that I can think of. If I put a full blown rivet it won't fit back over the screw on cover. Short of buying a 30 dollar set of doming punches. Another great vid!
I had started making my own stoves until I tried the Tokas titanium alcohol stove. That little thing blooms in seconds and is just great. That's what I use now when I hike solo. It does require a pot holders (included)? And a windscreen (don't they all?)
You should try that one out.
Thanks for the video.
The siphon stove?
Have to amend my previous comment. I've moved on from beverage can stoves. Material is hard to work with and the stoves I made were a bit fragile. I now use squirt cheese cans for the base materials. Just finished the second test of my latest design (# 14.1). Best performance yet. 2 cups 62F water on an open 8cm stand. One ounce Jasco blue label denatured alcohol. 2.5 ml priming alcohol. 900 ml titanium pot. Boil (212F) in 6 minutes 45 seconds. Total burn time 13 minutes 40 seconds. Assuming heat output is fairly linear, that means my latest stove can boil 4 cups of 65F water on one ounce of denatured alcohol. This stove is made from the bottoms of two cans. Previous stoves were made from a bottom and a top. While they had very good boil times averaging around 5 minutes 30 seconds, they topped out at about 3.5 cups on one ounce of fuel. I will upload info to my CZcams channel as an update to my existing Squirt Cheese Can stove build vid.
Up to date on your videos, I think the reason why the Catstove has the best time is because it burns as a wick and not by jets that blows a lot of the flame up the side of the pot.