Liberal Christianity vs. Conservative Christianity
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"They both want the Bible to fit their current lifestyle...
Except...it probably shouldn't."
There's my Blimey Cow moment!
Peeking Under The Blindfold - My favorite part of this video.
I really like your handle and the picture to explain it. Good work!
Amen
Blimey cow: The only show on CZcams that can mix politics and religion whilst retaining a sense of humor.
It truly is amazing.
And being surprisingly non controversial and bipartisan while doing so, ha
NigaHiga does a good job with this as well.
Alex Hooper Who cares about humor?
You clearly don’t watch comedians who talk about politics or religion. And a lot of them do.
"It all started when they took prayer out of schools."
My dad literally said that yesterday.
Freaky.
Will C. Lol. Where are our valuessssssss
Institutionalized/Legally-enforced religion. That doesn't have any downsides, right?
I was thinking Church of England/Pilgrim times.
I'm like, "Well isn't that sort of a good thing? Don't wanna force anything on others." I guess I fall into the liberal side a little xD Great now I can't unthink this way :p
I take it youre a liberal christian now? :P haha
There are Bible-based liberal Christians, and there are Bible -based conservative Christians. Both sides have their phonies. The problem is we define ourselves more by our political views than we do by our identity in Christ. Our political views have therefore become our idol.
The terms "liberal" and "conservative" as used in this video are not being use in the political sense (though they are somewhat related, as the bit about politics pointed out). This video is about liberal and conservative approaches to Christian tradition, with liberals being those who seek to break free of traditions and conservatives being those who cling to them.
It's still not the way I would tend to use the terms with respect to Christianity. To me (and I think this is the most historically grounded way of thinking about it), liberal Christianity seeks to hang on to some semblance of the Christian faith while subjecting the Bible to the reasoning of men (higher criticism, and the like), while conservative Christianity affirms that the Bible is the sole infallible record of God's revelation to man and provides the standard against which all our thoughts should be measured.
@@Metal_Auditor yup. Pretty much. I'm learning so much from the liberal side right now, and they actually are very drawn to liturgy and more old fashioned faith practices. It's really calming actually. It's not "Hypey". It's more grounding. "Son of a preacher man" Podcast kind of blends the two.
@@lauraberg6272 I think that those high church liturgies are medieval developments, beginning after the establishment of Christianity as the official religion of Rome. Those practices are probably foreign to the early Church. The modern draw toward high liturgies in more liberal churches seems to be an attempt to add substance to the worship services to replace the substance has been removed from the preaching.
@@Metal_Auditor Can't overgeneralize that sort of thing. Lots of things out there. It doesn't mean everything from the Middle Ages was in error. Just maybe different from some folks preferences. A lot of folks are moving away from that Roman/Greek view of who Jesus was and going back to what he preached about which was the kingdom of God. "Son of a preacher" man podcast is a good one to learn about that new focus.
Liberal and conservative are stupid terms. It's only Bible believing and not.
"I'm worried you're going to hell but I'm trying to play it cool" 😂😂😂
Kyle Hicks yep. That about sums it up.
Was literally at that part as I was reading this comment.😆
Yeahhh..... that’s me
I get this look all the time.
Me: I go to a home church because there aren't any anabaptist churches within 100 miles.
Them: What?! There are tons of Baptist churches in town!
Me: ANAbaptist.
Them: ... *You're going to hell but I'm trying to pay it cool*
Me 😭
God gave us a brain / mind to think... use it. Science and religion do not need to oppose each other... Truth does not oppose truth. Think, pray, observe. Don't immediately censor that which makes you uncomfortable. Be brave... and trust God.
At 1:39 I thought he was gonna say: "While one side is planning potlucks, the other is SMOKING pot." Maybe a little too liberal?
This is hilarious. XD
No, more libertarian.
Matthan Louis 😂😂😂
Sayda Jaycee Lmbo
I thought that too, lol. It does feel good to hear someone talk about this tension and break the ice.
Oh shoot, I didn't realize this was going to be a POLITICAL episode when you asked me to be in it. This doesn't look good for my image!
Goodnight Kevin
Your channel is pretty good....... for a Christian
I'm a little curious why the description says you were a dancer.
I refuse to say goodnight
I like the hair cut!
"I'm so glad I think for myself now."
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Thanks Kevin for being in the video! Everyone go check out his channel! czcams.com/users/saygoodnightkevin
Way ahead of you ;)
Blimey Cow haha, an Innertubeular moment 😂
tube much ashley, tube much XD
GOOdNIGHT Kevin
I thought we wouldn't see Kevin on your channel. I guess I was wrong. Kevin is back. :thumbsup:
“I’m worried you’re going to hell but I’m trying to play it cool” mood
that's what every christian always thinks about almost everyone
Yes. If you don't accept forgiveness and trust in your own goodness and righteousness you will be separated forever from A perfect, Holy, beautiful and just God. Yes. It's true. He's real and I've encountered Him many times and have way too much evidence. He will reveal himself to those who want Him and receive Him in faith
I get that look all the time when I say I’m an atheist it’s kinda funny to watch
Lol 😅ur pic. Is the mood you just said
@@victheflick9644 how is this god just? He completely fucked up Job's life just because i guess he was bored & decided to make a bet with tha devil just to see how much suffering his mosr faithful follower could take. He destroyed tha entire world because of tha actions of some people he didn't like. He killed 1st born babies indiscriminately. Plagues. Jealousy. Rage. Wrath. He creates people knowing they don't have enough faith (because he created them) and then abandons them on earth and then punishes them eternally for being exactly what he created them to be. This is all in your good book. If that god truly exists, he is unworthy of worship. He's a sadist. He's a deadbeat father and a terrible, jealous, angry creator. Basically, he's a huge dick. Why would i believe tha creator of our universe would be so petty, cruel and incompetent? Sounds more like a human entity, not a divine creator. I could not love an entity that your book describes.
Dont get me started on denominations....
Sam Vodopianov - Самуил Водопьянов I think they did that video a few years back.
Actually nowadays people respect other denominations much more than before. Still needs some work
What if there was a single trustworthy authority on the Bible? Would there be less confusion if there was? Where did the Bible come from and why do some bibles have seven 'extra' books and why and when were they taken out?
Sam Vodopianov - Самуил Водопьянов actually, Christians are more divided along the lines of conservative/liberal than by denomination. This trend has been growing ever since ww2. A conservative Presbyterian generally gets along better with a conservative Baptist than with a fellow Presbyterian who is liberal in their Christianity.
The question shouldn't be, why some have extra books, it should be why some have taken out books. This is due to protestants taking out 7 books from the old testament. I believe Martin Luther was the first one to do this. All catholic Bibles are "required" to have all of the original bible books in the newly printed bibles. Because Catholics have all the books, i believe Catholics should be the ones that have sole authority on the bible.
This is scary accurate
Kevin Stutzman not really
They are trying to say "muh both sides are bad" way too hard
While it is good and funny (at times), and some things are in a narrow sense accurate, there´s missing a lot of variety and reason why they differ. One could say the same about soccer... there are fans, and there are huligans, while both"love" soccer and have stuff in common, it´s a huge difference between the groups, and also INSIDE the groups. Agreeing to what +Granger Montag said... you can´t just say both Christian groups are "equally" bad, as little as you can say both soccer fans and huligans are "equally bad".
No, it is scary inaccurate, prejudicial, and uses stereotypes - which is always inaccurate.
Amazing isn't it? Whatever you do don't look-up anything whatsoever about this topic. Wouldn't want your to be disappointed. Also, don't look up the word "strawman," don't want to upset your uninformed sensibilities with research or rationality as pesky as those characteristics are.
"I wish the founding fathers... were my dad." Best quote ever
*I'm trying to explain the differences if you didn't grow up in the christian bubble*
Me, my whole life, for everything
Are you my clone?
Same
"I was a christian until I reached tha age of reason." - George Carlin
I think this is the only channel on CZcams that could post a video like this and not have the comment section loose it's mind. I love this community!
It's amazing!
Honestly Puritan Josh may just be my new favorite character.
Not all conservative Christians are Puritans...... in fact most aren't...... ?
Sophia Hunter begone, heathen! Out, OUT, until Ye repent!
You're probably kidding? But I'm not sure.
Sophia Hunter why would I ever kid around on the Internet? The internet is for deeply serious discussions and vitriolic debates ONLY.
Okey doke then :) I admire your sarcasm.
Waiting for part 2: Libertarian Christianity
Melanie Anne Ahern yeah. i related to none of this (though it was hilarious)
same man. same.
Lol oh oh. But he wouldn’t make that video because us libertarian Christians are correct in every way duh
Also, who would build the roads?!?! 😜
Yessss. I consider myself Libertarian but I could definitely point out some issues with the conclusions we jump to.
I'm an independent Christian...
EVERYBODY SAY #TEAMJESUS
#TEAMJESUS
#TEAMJESUS
#TEAMJESUS
#teamjesus
#TEAMJESUS A-FUCKING-MEN
Who thinks of Fiddler on the Roof when they hear the word, “Tradition?”
Me
It gets ten times more heated with homeschoolers. 😂
Wait, I was first?!?!? Wow.
Yeah my co op is super conservative and in our history class we almost always get into politics. It's a pretty fun co op
Pi2z, I love co-ops, mine had a debate class like that.
Cool! Mine does to i think I'm gonna take that class next year! Last thursday was my last day of co op but we have the end of the year party coming up this thursday i'm pretty excited for that
Pi2z, our debate team was pretty awesome, hope you enjoy yours!
Also, my co-op end of the year party is this Friday. 😂
Cool hope you hve fun to :D
Last time I was this early, Toby Maguire was emo spider-man
NitroCharizard those were the good days
That was soooo bad😂😂😂
So cringy...but so hilarious XD
Be honest, we are all wondering what they really said in the bleeped out part.
I think they just say "flip"
Sophia Hunter thought I heard a k sound at the end. Maybe funk?
Idk. In another one of their videos they did a similar skit and they tried to bleep out the word "flip". Just an inference.
Dumb.
Maybe Fork
What can Liberal and Conservative Christians agree on? That Switchfoot is AWESOME!!
Jonathan John nut really switchfoot doesn’t say Jesus every song so they nooo... CHRISTIANNNNNN
More like the band Skillet. Have you seen their videos for the album Rise and their most recent video for the song Brave.
And I've read comments from both Christian and non-christian fans that both do agree with Skillet's music.
I actually thought of them while writing the comment :P But I haven't heard any recent stuff from them.
I’d just like to say, thank you for getting a haircut Jordan 😁
Not his curlsssssssss!
Mim Henderson lol 😄
This comment is kinda rude...
Just in my opinion
Like u think Jordan wants people to judge his HAIR? To say 'oh NICE u FINALLY got a haircut GOD it was so long and wild and kinda UNATTRACTIVE but now u cut it do I am now comforted!!'
Would u if u had a CZcams channel appreciate if Ur fans only cared about your clothes or eyebrows or lashes or makeup?
'Oh nice clothes today finally!'
'Oh your not wearing Ur hoodie in this video. You always wear it!'
'your makeups a mess!'
'did u trim your eyebrows FINALLY?'
And I know it's your thoughts, but sometimes things should be kept quiet if they are pointlessly rude.
You could be making Jordan feel VERY self conscious ya know?
Tarinabo Daukoru I didn’t mean to be rude. It’s just kind of a joke that the blimeycow fans have. I was just teasing 🙂 I actually kind of like his long hair 😊
*Nice haircut Jordan! It's sO eDgY!*
Watching this, I was reminded of how sad I sometimes get that we seem to feel that we have to choose a side in everything. I don't know whether I'm Republican or Democrat, Conservative Christian or Liberal. I find that I have a lot of qualities from both sides of the spectrum. Do I have to choose a side, or can I be unique? Do I have to categorize my faith?
Myriah Grabish well, I'm not sure that any single answer could explain it. Just continue reading your Bible and comparing your choices to it, and find some good authors who have been Christian for a long time and consider their point of view on topics that divide liberals and conservatives. Some topics just serve to cause arguments, while others are important and need to be defended. I would recommend Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis, as it deals with a lot of fundamentals, but it's up to you. Sorry that was long, hope it helped!
I think that over catagorizing this just divides. Chances are you lie somewhere on one side of the line, but I think trying to label exactly where your beliefs fall can keep you from actively seeking truth and focuses on trying to fit a mold. Obviously both sides have good and bad points, so likely somewhere in between is best, but there are so many ways to be in between both extremes.
Labels can help in that we don’t feel alone. Yet labels can hurt by dividing those and causing a wider gap than was originally even there.
Myriah Joy Grabish don’t choose a side choose the bible
I would never be a liberal Christian for the main reason they support abortions and socialism. But It's good to hold values from both sides.
Jesus said: A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
(He never divided people on any basis.) KING JESUS THE GREAT!
@Northern it's hard to argue with your assessment.
“Church...is a place I don’t go to because it’s boring.”
😂😂😂 this is so true. Although I still go to church anyways but sometimes I feel like this.
When did the expectation that Church is supposed to be entertaining become part of Christian mentality? I have never understood this. I go to the movie theater to be entertained, read a book or go to a show.
So its supposed to be boring?
Lori Wilson it’s not supposed to be entertaining, but that doesn’t mean I don’t find it boring. It’s really hard to pay attention and...I feel really disconnected. Idk. I still go cuz I believe you’re supposed to go to church on Sunday but sometimes I wish I didn’t have to.
I would try different church.
All churches are different and maybe you just need something new.
Talk to a pastor or a trustworthy christian friend about it.
I don't understand the mentality that church has to be boring. I believe we can be entertained in church, because the Lord has given us joy, and he wants us to delight in him. However, church shouldn't be some fun and preppy club either. I think people need to find a church that they find engaging. My relationship with God has grown so much since my parents moved our family to a church where I am engaged. Before, I found church so boring that I went home every Sunday feeling guilty, like I wasn't a good Christian and I was going to hell since I couldn't focus anymore. At my current church I'm engaged and thus I listen at the sermons to the point where I actually enjoy them. I take notes on them, I go home, and reflect on the message and examine myself to see how I can implement the message in my life. People don't, and they won't fall in love with Jesus if they think church is a boring place where there are a bunch of rules they have to follow. We want to tell the world about Jesus, and I think it's engagement that causes people to want to follow Jesus. Anyway, it isn't even about 'church.' The real issue is if my relationship with God is built on how I feel (bored or not), or if I love him. Church can be fun, and it is that fun that kick starts our relationship with God, in my opinion.
~Love, Ari
I hope your week goes well :)
I love this so much. Probably some of the best, most accurate political type humor I’ve seen in a long time. Keep up the great work Jordan!
I really appreciate the style of humor you guys employ. It's not dismissive or cruel or arrogant or at another person's expense. It doesn't want to tear one group of people down while worshipping another. It strives to bring a little clarity and honesty and fairness to a lot of divisive and tumultuous conversations and remind all of us that even the people we disagree with are human beings with intrinsic value as creations of God. Thank you guys for being who you are.
I've grown up going to church with a high level of involvement, my dad being an elder and my mama teaching Sunday school ever since I can remember. It's taken a while for me to come to understand how important it is to challenge current practice against God's word to see if it measures up. I respect and admire my dad so much, and he has always quoted Ephesians when talking about other denominations and branches. "But speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ." Truth and sound doctrine are so important to an authentic faith, but so is love and gentleness.
I'm a mix of both, but really everyone is just stupid and triggered these days.
Gray Marie me too and I am hated from both sides :-p
Yep, there's no way to win. XD
Welcome to the libertarian Christian side
Same. Got friends on both sides, yet also get glares from both sides. Also confusion. Plus some fangs. Glad for the friends.
Gray Marie I don't get why in hell people always have to pick from two extremities, like medium is also option and it isn't criminal to look at things from many perspectives?
Watching in bed instead of getting up for school
Angelina Grosenick same
Can't relate. The joys of being homeschooled👌😂
Jaylen Connors same
@@jaylenconnors7775 jokes on me, I'm homeschooled but I have to get ready for co-op -_-
School? Hahahahhahahah not in 2020!!!!
I totally agree with Jordan, but I am a conservative Christian. I think the Bible is 100% correct whether or not it agrees with my lifestyle, it just means I need to change. We need to make the Bible the basis for our lives.
But what does the Bible say about your lifestyle? That's where each side tends to only pay attention to the parts that agree with them and explain away the parts that don't.
Homosexuality? Immigrants? Pacifism? Charity? Alcohol? One side is like "The Bible clearly says this!" and the other side is all, "Sure, but it probably means this..." Or better yet, one side is like, "It clearly says this here!" and the other side is like, "But that doesn't count because it clearly says this here!" Which side is right? Often that depends on which "subculture" you've decided on identifying with...
I'm taking the video's point to be that if we're really trying to follow the Bible and not just get it to agree with our particular subculture, we should be thoughtfully and humbly analyzing whether we might be wrong and ignoring something important God is telling us, instead of assuming we're right to start with and picking the path that confirms our bias.
EmethMatthew Exactly...
The Westboro Baptist Church thinks they're following the Bible 100% and feel that people need to change to adapt to the Bible, not vise versa. Be careful with that mentality... because what makes you any different than the WBC?
If we can find one person who truly lives the Word with 100% accuracy, we can find the "good" that they do compared to everyone else who doesn't follow the Bible 100%. However, since such account cannot be found, then we can label certain things in the Bible as "impractical" (which many Christians say about the Old Testament). The question becomes... what about the Bible can accurately be called "impractical"? When St. Paul talks about how to treat your slaves? Also, what about the things that are currently practical that are never mentioned, or vaguely mentioned in the Bible... like EmethMatthew pointed out. However, if there's the fear that "If we can find one thing that's impractical about the Bible, then why can't we say that the whole Bible is impractical?" Then you get to the first issue asking the question "Then where's the person who is able to prove that the Bible is 100% practical? If it's possible, then why has no one been able to do it in the last 2,000 years?"
Although I admit, just because no one has done it, doesn't mean it's impossible, but we're asking the question of whether or not the Bible is "practical". Practical means that it can be applied to most everyday people in a near every day way. We may not know fully how a car works, or a cell phone, but both are practical in our everyday living... all you need to know is how to drive a car or work a cell phone, not necessarily the intricate mechanics that go with it. So, if someone were to even argue that the Bible is 100% practical, does the Bible have to be fully understood in order for it to be 100% practical? And if that was the case, then is studying the Bible necessary for it to apply to the person on an every day basis? Or is the case where it's just "good" to know the Bible, even though it's not that practical on some parts? In that case, why learn about something if it's not really going to have any practical application in your life? Or even so, why does it have to be exclusively the Bible? Why can't it be the Quran, or the Torah, or a book about Buddha, or any of the stories from ancient Greek, Roman, and Egyptian time? Can many of the "practical lessons" in the Bible be also found in other sources and religions?
My conclusion: The Bible, although there are good life lessons to be found it in, but it's not that much different than any other religious text or doctrines. In fact, much of Christianity borrows from Judaism, Paganism, along with a mix of ancient Greek and Egyptian mythology (you think God becoming man and 'rising from the dead' is unique to Christianity? Pharaoh was considered both human and divine, and when he would die, they would mummify him instead of bury him, so that he could return to his body once he came back from the land of the dead...). To believe that the Bible is 100% true is similar to believing that the movie The Godfather is 100% accurate, or that books The Lord of the Rings is 100% accurate... or that every self-help book ever written is 100% practical because it says so. Not only that, but what makes the Bible elevated above the Quran or the Torah? Not a single word in the Bible was written by Jesus himself... mostly told by secondhand eyewitnesses (of all the Gospel writers, John was the only one who was considered an "Apostle" of Christ), who waited years after the events to record their "testimony", but yet, most of the Quran was written by the prophet Mohammad, and the Torah were written by the prophets themselves (or had scribes to write for them), which gives those other "accounts" more credibility. If this was a court case, and you had one eyewitness say "I saw it happen yesterday" versus "I talked to people who saw it happen" or "I saw it happen, but it was years ago", which would be more credible? The Bible, literally, is a collection of stories and letters... I don't think ever had the intention of being the sole basis and even foundation of a "religion" that is full of corruption and manipulation and confusion.
As the Bible says: "A kingdom divided against itself, cannot stand on its own" and "God is not the author of confusion". If both are true, then why is there so much division and confusion in the one true religion that was, allegedly, founded by God? In my opinion... if you start to work the numbers, both on Christianity and the Bible... things find to not add up.
J. A. Greene the difference is that the WBC purposefully ignore parts that don't go along with their narrative. True conservative Christians like myself, the OP, and most other conservative Christians believe that every part of the Bible is important and we should live our lives according to the whole truth. So, yes we try our best to conform our lifestyle to the Bible, the whole counsel of God. If you can point to a place we are lacking we will self-reflect, pray on it, and ask God to help us become more like Him.
I think what most people mistake with conservative Christians is that they think we believe we are living in line with Bible now. The truth is that we do not. We understand that we are just human and are continually trying to improve ourselves and grow more into the righteousness of God. Living a lifestyle in line with the Bible is a process not a decision.
But don't most Christians purposefully ignore parts of the Bible that don't fit their narrative?
Here's a good clip from the show "West Wing" to prove my point:
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So your a Centrist Christian? 😉
wisegirl_ 1227 He's an honest conservative Christian.
You're
Centrist? Wut dat mean.
He just said that he's caught in the middle, so I don't think he identifies as either liberal OR conservative. And for those who ask, centrist means you are right in the middle (neither liberal or conservative) and have views that take from both of those parties.
Moderate Christian.
I’m a non-Bible Belt Catholic, but have a good friend who is very much a conservative evangelical Christian
My family is non-denominational (but lean mostly toward Pentecostal beliefs) and are more conservative, and my best friend is from a Baptist family who lean more towards the liberal side of things, so we talk all the time about the differences and similarities between us and how we can stay so close when we disagree on a lot of things. So many times people get caught up in their denominations and belief differences that we forget to just LOVE each other, so I love friendships like ours and yours that can differ greatly and still be good friends. (And we're Bible Belt kids too, so we have that in common with the Taylors.)
“So what church do you go to?”
“I don’t go to church anymore, cause I’m an atheist now.”
(Making the face) “I’m worried you’re going to hell, but I’m trying to play it off.”
10/10 Excellent work. You perfectly encapsulated the bulk of the two sides arguments in a single 7 minute (excluding bloopers and commercials) video.
Thank you Jordan! Myself and several of my friends are in that same "caught in the middle" place now that we are young adults. This was helpful!
So now the Blimey Cow logo is the official bleeper? LOL
It's Monday Blimey Fam! So glad this came out today too... I almost forgot what today was. ^_^
Domonique Towne same
Josh's acting is top-notch. Great episode!
I loved this sooo much keep being awesome guys!!!
What are your guys' thoughts on pre vs. post-millennialism, dispensationalism, and Calvinism vs Armineanism?
A free will vs predestination would be hilarious!
I disagree. We should let the bible lead our lives because it is literally straight from God, and if you're a Christian you have asked HIM TO LEAD your life. That being said the bible is our biggest tool. We should not twist it to our specific needs but let it show us the way God wants us to go. If you have asked Jesus to come into your heart and lead you, it won't be so that you can manipulate the bible.
3:02 Absolutely nailed it! I've seen that face a lot of times. Never knew what it was called before, but "I'm worried you're going to hell but I'm trying to play it cool" pretty much sums it up. Still laughing!
Thanks so much for the upload! Really good message. :)
"Son, my generation fought in The Great Bubble Civil War. Yes. It was very serious."
Lol!!😂😂😂
Pharisee vs Sadducee?
KingIceHunter 😬😂
This video was great😂 Too hilariously accurate and I feel you on being stuck in the middle.
This is my favorite Blimey Cow video!!!
You slick roasted everyone and I LOVED IT
Thank you for this CZcams channel kids need this channel
I don't go to church at the moment. I'd love to find a good church, but like NF says... "Church is where I found God, but it's also where I learned to judge." I have a hard time finding a good church. BUT, I'm not labeling myself one way or the other because I'm neither. I'm not the middle, either. I'm Ivie. I have my own opinions. I have my own faith. I read the Bible. I pray to God. I lean on Him because He is the only way. That's where I stand. And sometimes, standing for what I believe means standing alone, but I'm never alone because I have Jesus.
Ivie Brooks, amen.
It's important to take the time to find a good church. I've known lots of people who took over a year to find the right church
Take your time. You’re not going to hell for not going to church.
I love that song
heyyy! Its good to see Kevin back in a video!
Omgosh! This is so true! 🤣🤣🤣
This is too perfect
I’ve recently found your channel and I like it a lot it I recommended it to all my friends thank you for making amazing content
Was the way you said bloopers a reference to psalty the singing songbook LOL
Great video. The terms “liberal” and “conservative,” when used of Christianity, are often overly simplistic. For example, I often consider myself “conservative” when it comes to theology, but “liberal” when it comes to politics. And then there’s the way those terms are used to refer to certain moral and/or social behaviors or worship styles. The terms can be used in so many different ways and contexts, and people who use those terms don’t always distinguish between theology, politics, ethics, etc. Everything often gets jumbled together and one side misrepresents the other.
Coming from someone from the middle, this is hilarious and very true. I've seen both extremes from both sides😂. His last point is spot on👍
Love it. I felt like I fall more in the middle as you do which is why I felt the need to look this topic up because I see both sides and I’m here in the middle like “can’t y’all see what’s goin on here?” They’re just dividing each other further lol. Anyway good vid.
First video I’ve seen and I’m ready to sub to you.
Part 3: Us Catholics, who are too traditional for liberals AND too progressive for conservatives 😂
Yup. That's us. There are really great Conservative values and some great Liberal values. Extremism is a problem, in either direction. Therefore, holding the fence is are real, valid and balanced position.
The “think they’re super edgy” part describes me perfectly😂 This video is an absolute blessing!👏👌🎉😂
A blessing from God, you mean
I’m the conservative Christian
Loving the Kings Kaleidoscope reference at the 4 minute mark hahaha
Really enjoyed this video! You guys did a great job explaining this topic.
Say Goodnight Kevin cameo!
Faith Neufville That's who that was?
Did Jordan get a haircut?
I got an ad with the EXACT same music right before your video, it was hilarious! Ad-ception!
Ya'll have been knocking it out of the park lately
I get annoyed at both sides.
I'd say by these generalizations and stereotypes, I'm a conservative Christian. XD
I love that the outtakes are just you guys making Kevin cry over and over!
I am so glad that someone out this into words, thank you blimeycow! 💙
I think Kevin is rubbing off on Josh, this whole thing felt very Kevin. Which is not a bad thing.
My parents raises me very conservative but they slowly turned more liberal as I grew older and now I don’t know where I stand in these two categories.
This seems to be getting more accurate and hilarious as time goes by...🤣
Excellent video!
What do you call a book club that stays on one book for centuries?
Church
I'm more conservative, but I believe both sides have their strengths and weaknesses.
Out of the park with this one... Thank you, guys.
Jordan, I've watched Blimey Cow for years (circa "The Bass and Me"), and this is by far my favorite video you and Josh and everyone have ever come up with! I genuinely appreciate your commentary on this issue; we as Christians really get too caught up in politics and bureaucratic nonsense that actually matters much less in the long run than we think it does, and we often fail to see how similar we all are. Thank you for talking about this; this was perfect and really struck a chord with me. Everyone needs to stop and think about this issue. Thank you guys so much!
*CHRISTIAAAAAAAN*
I go to church every week and pray, but I do not pray the Rosary everyday and do the Stations of the Cross everyday.
See, being in between is fun!
Lord Kenyon I never heard of this God. Sounds like a lot of work 😅. I think I’ll stick to worshiping my loving father.
He got a haircut!! And good job as usual on the Video Jordan and Josh!
Awesome episode, guys! This was a really thought provoking video. I guess my one remaining question is how do you decide when one side has gone too far and is accepting or committing sins without thinking they're wrong?
Ooh, this is juicy.
Notification squad where are you???
such a good video!! love it
This has to be one of your absolute best videos! #nailedit
Machen’s Book “Christianity and Liberalism” talks about this very subject, and I would highly recommend it... Even if he is pretty conservative when he comes to some things.
Is there something wrong with being "pretty conservative", Mason?
ClemsonTiger e i think he’s implying that there might be bias, which isn’t necessarily bad. Also i see you on every blimey cow video, mason. what’s going on?
ClemsonTiger e Woah, fancy meeting you here... And no. I was just saying, as Izzy said, there is bias. I think he takes a good approach to it though, rather than focusing on charity beliefs [I.E. What you should eat or drink, what you should say, whether you should or shouldn’t read Harry Potter {I’m only joking ;)}] he goes to the core of Christianity which is the Gospel.
hi again
powercuber Ha, hi!
I've never clicked so fast
This may be the most insightful and accurate video I have seen in a very very very long time.
You had a lot right about this, props to you for covering a controversial topic. The problem with liberal Christianity is they tend to throw out the Bible, without the Bible, Christianity isn't Christianity so it's kinda a big deal
YES! BLOOPERS!
Christians who are OK with cursing don't swear to be edgy (well I suppose some do, especially younger ones). In fact, most choose not to swear around people who they know are uncomfortable with it. It's one of those things that really the bible has nothing to say about (because the idea of "bad words" didn't exist back then) so we know it's fine, but we don't want to cause others to stumble, so we refrain around some people.... but we're not perfect, we sometimes slip :)
Your conservative bubble was showing on this topic, so I figured I'd throw a 'liberal' point of view out there, in case anyone is reading :)
Somewhere in the bible ( don't ask me where because I haven't the faintest idea ), it talks about 'not dirtying your speech', or something like that. How I always interpreted it ( and, again, this is just my opinion ) is that we aren't supposed to say 'bad words', intentionally use our words to offend other people, and that sort of thing. And, as just a rule in general for me, there are many words that aren't necessarily swears, but aren't as 'classy' or 'sophisticated'. They are unnecessary slang, if that makes sense. I have made a conscious choice to try and not use these words, but that is, again, just me. I can force my choices and my beliefs onto others. Anyway, sorry for the long comment. Just thought I'd put my 2 cents in.
FamilyCraft Dad the bible does talk about not taking God's name in vain. Its in the ten commandments.
Susanna Biddinger That only accounts for a small number of swears, and also covers far more than using His name AS a swear. Like using His name to further your own agenda for instance, is also covered by this commandment.
FamilyCraft Dad ephesians 4:29
"Let no corrupt communications proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers." And there are also many more like "James 5:12"
Which states " but above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath, but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.'' And there are so many others.
Ephesians 4:29 means to not tear down someone with your words. Yeah you can use swear words to tear someone down, but you can use many other words as well... so that says nothing about "swearing" as people quite frequently use swear words in normal conversation, some even use those words to encourage one another, or rather "edify" them.
James 5:12 is talking about the only form of "swearing" there was in the bible times, which is this definition: "make a solemn statement or promise undertaking to do something or affirming that something is the case."
These have nothing directly to do with the list of taboo words our culture has created.
This is how I feel very often. Thanks for capturing this specific feeling Jordan!
Loved this video!