EG4 6000xp vs Central Air Conditioner, Ultimate Solar Inverter Challenge!
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
- In our continuing quest for energy independence and the ability to live comfortably with or without grid power, we decided to expand our solar system using the EG4 6000xp inverter. We designed a two-unit system in parallel, but before we startup the second inverter, I was curious whether a single inverter could run our entire home.
Our home is about 2,000sf and we run everything on electric except for our water heater, dryer and stove, which are on propane. I wanted to see if a single 6000xp could run our entire home plus our 3 tons of air conditioning.
The inverter was wired into our main service panel using an interlock kit and separate breaker for the solar power. No grid power is yet hooked up to the inverter, only solar.
The results of this experiment shocked me and was not at all what I expected!!
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Always a fun test seeing if systems can run the A/C! Thanks! Makes me wana try my 3.5T...
That mini split is going to make the two ton not work efficiently do to them being side by side
Thanks! I thought about that when the builder put them in close together. I’m sure there’s a minimum clearance rule in the manual somewhere. The mini-split can easily be moved back by a foot or two if I add a pad, so that’s probably a good idea! 👍
@@terrahillfarm if I remember right most larger heat pumps like the one you have right there require around 30 inches between it and any other heat pump or AC.
@@jitterz0135 thank you! That sounds good to me so I’ll move it before summer heats up!
A pallet of used panels is on the future project list
Thanks Bob! I’ll tell you my experience with used panels hasn’t been that great. I could hardly get more than 50% of rated power out of them due to age degradation. With the 25% tariff increase in June, I’d just buy a pallet of new 370-400w panels now, and sell the ones you don’t use for a big profit! You get 30% of the cost back in a tax credit too! The big cost with panels is shipping and volume can reduce the cost significantly. If you want to check used prices go to SantanSolar.com.
Thanks. Was not aware of increase. Will check out, but it's a little further out than June unfortunately
Glad that high frequency inverter is working out for you.
There’s been a lot of talk and some pretty bold claims about the EG4 6000xp. We wanted to see if a single unit could run our entire house including 3 tons of air conditioning. The results were pretty surprising and overall, I’m not sure you can get a better split phase inverter with a 5 year warranty for less than $1400. Just because “some people” will chime in about how HF inverters are terrible, a comparable low frequency split phase inverter and charge controller, with similar idle consumption, will cost you more than 2.5 times the price. That said, if you do not have easy access to secondary/grid power, then you may want to spend more on higher quality inverter, but if you can easily switch over to grid in case of inverter malfunction, this one will work for you. 🤩☀️⚡️👍
Yes, some people will chime in and post the truth about how high frequency, transformerless inverters are terrible. First of all they don't offer a high enough surge capacity for my home's high inductance loads and because they don't don't use a heavy duty, iron core, copper wound output transformer, they don't offer any galvanic isolation for safety and they provide a shorter life expectancy than a real inverter that uses low frequency, transformer based technology.
Instead of spending your time trolling every solar video espousing the benefits of LF inverters, why don’t you help folks out here and tell about or make some videos of all the comparably priced LF inverters that aren’t made in China and deliver superior performance?? Most folks dipping their toes into DIY solar energy independence aren’t in a place to spend $5-8,000 on a new LF inverter and SCC, plus $1,000s more on panels, batteries and whatever proprietary accessory’s are needed with your brand. I’m just a guy with a DIY solar hobby and tiny YT channel sharing and learning about Solar. I’ve owned LF inverters and now I’m testing the latest technology in HF inverters. So far it’s powering all my heaviest loads. Will it forever? maybe not, but you can subscribe to my channel and when it fails you can say you were right and I’ll just get it replaced under warranty or buy a new one with all the extra cash in my pocket.
You realize the mini split is getting all the hot air from your two ton? Why? That's killing efficiency of both units!
Thanks, We don’t actually run them at the same time but it’s been pointed out to be a problem. I plan to move the mini split to avoid any future issues. Builder’s AC guy set it up that way. 🤩👍
I would never install one of these lightweight, low surge high frequency transformerless inverters in my home because they don't offer a high enough surge capacity to start the inductive loads in my home. 3 tons worth of air conditioning is only about a 25 amp load so I'm not impressed with your demonstration. My AC unit is rated at 5 ton and there is no way that this inverter would start it. Only a low frequency, transformer based inverter would be able to start my AC unit.
I will be sure not to watch your video
Please share the brand and model of this superior, comparably priced, LF inverter that runs your 5 tons of A/C so folks can actually buy one themselves. FYI- It’s the lock rotor amps that challenge a system with A/C startup, not running load. My 2 Ton A/C has 60 LRA which is more than a 14kW surge for this cheap, chinese, 6,000 watt HF inverter, so actually, yeah, I thought that was pretty impressive 🤩
There is always someone shitting on the HF units. However, they are never able to share info on LF alternatives.
@@jimgraham290 Thanks Jim, There are some great LF inverters out there but a lot of the cheaper ones play some dangerous games with their neutral wiring method and some even include similar “prone to failure” Mosfet transistors like HF inverters. There are significant differences in both LF & HF inverter models.. There is also a cost to pay for high Idle consumption and cheap LF inverters can really eat power keeping that transformer energized, compared to the latest tech in HF inverters. I leaned this through personal experience. Everyone’s use case is slightly different and your inverter choice should match your use case. Simply bashing one general inverter wiring design isn’t helpful to anyone unless you get more specific and compare brand/model/design A to B. Does Victron suck because they use HF technology alongside a LF transformer? I haven’t heard many complaints. People who use fear to try to sell something really get my goat. Use facts and specifics that are helpful so we can discuss the differences and help folks to make best choices, or just STHU.
Sure this cheap Chinese made inverter might start these AC units when its new but give it a couple of year and I can pretty much guarantee you that you'll no longer be impressed.0There are several brands and models of low frequency transformer based inverters on the market that are comparably priced to this cheap low surge unit. Google it.