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  • Thousands of workers in Southern Pakistan spend their lives mining and cooking limestone. The process releases plumes of toxic smoke, polluting the environment and poisoning workers.
    00:00 - Introduction
    01:20 - Setting up dynamite
    02:18 - Explosion
    02:40 - Work injuries
    03:35 - Mining permits
    04:12 - Building the kiln
    05:17 - Feeding the furnace
    06:36 - Wages and income
    07:58 - Breaking down kiln
    08:37 - How limestone is used
    09:36 - Environmental impact
    10:15 - Parvez at home
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  • @gordonpasha3126
    @gordonpasha3126 Před 7 měsíci +483

    I come from a family that has been doing this work for 200 years in Italy. They are only 100 years behind us. I am an explosives expert, in that quarry they prepare mines as they did in Europe 150 years ago. the last accident involving a mine built like this in my city dates back to 1895.
    Here too the miners worked barefoot

    • @shabirkamran5399
      @shabirkamran5399 Před 7 měsíci +63

      Italy got rid of its dictators however in Pakistan we are still under Military Junta who are strangling any progress prospects for the country.

    • @gordonpasha3126
      @gordonpasha3126 Před 7 měsíci +44

      @@shabirkamran5399 it's not a question of dictators, the only dictator we had in Italy was Mussolini after 1921, when industries began to spread in Italy. Construction techniques do not evolve because no one invests money in production activities. In Italy it happened when the nobility who possessed money preferred to continue exploiting the large estates rather than encouraging industries.
      In Pakistan I think the same thing happens, human lives yield less than agricultural investments

    • @thedemolisher1181
      @thedemolisher1181 Před 7 měsíci +6

      ​@@gordonpasha3126 Not every mine is like this. This area specifically is a backward area. The provincial government didnt do much for the province so it is under developed. Military actually improved our situation.

    • @gordonpasha3126
      @gordonpasha3126 Před 7 měsíci +11

      @@thedemolisher1181 I'm sure of it, in the background you can see a perfectly asphalted motorway viaduct, crossed by vehicles. To build a public work like this, lime kiln technology is not enough

    • @dr-rexmangrca113
      @dr-rexmangrca113 Před 7 měsíci +5

      I. Saw photos of mining in Sicily...the men were nake because of heat underground ... Yep no clothes

  • @PrimarchX
    @PrimarchX Před 7 měsíci +475

    Been doing it all his life, but the old man "is not trained to use gunpowder". I'd say the apparent presence of all his digits and living to a ripe old age refutes that statement.

    • @fordhuguley8699
      @fordhuguley8699 Před 7 měsíci +52

      No trust me there is a difference between being properly trained with explosives And learning from experience, he has all his fingers but I bet you he knows plenty that don’t.

    • @PrimarchX
      @PrimarchX Před 7 měsíci +49

      @@fordhuguley8699 I guess I'm overreacting to the hyperbole that he has no knowledge yet has been doing it all his life. Practical knowledge is a thing and I'm sure he's doing more than blindly shoveling grains of black powder down a hole then hoping for the best. I think what the producers are angling toward is more like Western certification, training and safety standards. Obviously these are not factors in this part of Pakistan.

    • @jamesraymond1158
      @jamesraymond1158 Před 7 měsíci +16

      I suspect no one in Pakistan wears steel-tipped boots, (which would have saved his foot.) Same for gloves or eye protection.

    • @clownworld3913
      @clownworld3913 Před 7 měsíci +10

      These types of video always play up the danger. Extremely this, extremely that and then we end up with "A mine collapse in 2014 killed two people"

    • @skeetsmcgrew3282
      @skeetsmcgrew3282 Před 7 měsíci +15

      @@clownworld3913 I remember once this channel talked about someone working with "toxic rust." You'd have to eat like a shovel full of pure rust to get sick, it is an extremely low toxicity. A shame they feel the need to exaggerate when things are already this bad

  • @tookitogo
    @tookitogo Před 7 měsíci +56

    This video keeps saying “limestone” when in fact referring to two different things: limestone (the unbaked rock from the quarry), and lime (the product created by baking limestone). They’re not the same thing, and their dangers are very different.

    • @kraptastic333
      @kraptastic333 Před 2 měsíci

      Is any of this for cement production? What is the major use of cooked limestone/lime?

    • @Pattern51lover
      @Pattern51lover Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thank you for the clarification.

    • @aktan4ik
      @aktan4ik Před měsícem +1

      Lime is a citrus fruit!

  • @stevep5408
    @stevep5408 Před 7 měsíci +223

    Farmers had hand stacked limestone kilns built into natural dirt banks. They burned limestone, then slaked the lime, it turned into mostly powder which they used on their fields to increase harvests. That was the 1700s.

    • @RagingDong
      @RagingDong Před 7 měsíci +10

      There is a limestone kiln in my village, last used 1890s.

    • @ronmoore6598
      @ronmoore6598 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Young people today are terrified of work.

    • @RagingDong
      @RagingDong Před 7 měsíci +22

      @@ronmoore6598 We live in social welfare states, harder you work, more you get robbed.

    • @declangraham1864
      @declangraham1864 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@ronmoore6598A saying as old as time itself! 😂

    • @GilmerJohn
      @GilmerJohn Před 7 měsíci +3

      It works more slowly but it's not necessary to "slack" lime before putting it on a field.

  • @wendellsmith1349
    @wendellsmith1349 Před 7 měsíci +11

    @7:35 No if the price of limestone were higher you would pocket the extra and still pay them the same.

  • @franktrask1264
    @franktrask1264 Před 7 měsíci +231

    What we are seeing here is ignoring the Industrial Revolution. I have spent a good portion of my life in the lime industry as both an executive and an owner. The rock could easily be broken with a medium sized hydraulic excavator, and kilns of this nature are commonly run on a set cycle. Proper fuel would also make a difference. The heavy black smoke is an indication of wanton waste of energy. Some kilns Ike this were run in Australia up until the end of the depression. There are a few that have run in recent years making so called specialty lime. Unfortunaly soft and crumbling limestone like this does not repond to modern kilns very well.

    • @Zahrul3
      @Zahrul3 Před 7 měsíci

      To be fair many of these business are owned by politically powerful people who would rather keep conditions like this and prevent any modern plants from being built, so they get to live large like the feudal lords they are while giving absolutely no contribution to the value chain

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 Před 7 měsíci +1

      How much is a human life compared to machines?

    • @belakovdoj
      @belakovdoj Před 7 měsíci +3

      Is it possible to use palm lives for heating in an industrial way as the only accessible fuel?

    • @skeetsmcgrew3282
      @skeetsmcgrew3282 Před 7 měsíci +42

      @@belakovdoj Juat constructing the kiln properly to draw oxygen in large quantities would make a big difference. This is a glorified camp fire under a pile of rocks. But when you are this poor, investing in literally anything doesn't seem worth it. Not when people's lives are seen as worthless

    • @gregoryl.levitre9759
      @gregoryl.levitre9759 Před 7 měsíci

      The industrial revolution brought us coal cooking and non-stick pans that cause cancer. You're delusional.

  • @LiborTinka
    @LiborTinka Před 7 měsíci +242

    A good question would be why no one invests in the region to build a solid limestone mill or even quarry, especially in times of international market. Getting the answer will take you to a huge rabbit hole, touching many taboos that are not discussed or even questioned in both east and west...

    • @mortanicus5871
      @mortanicus5871 Před 7 měsíci +67

      You're probably right. I think what we're looking at here is a caste social system, where there are more than just financial barriers to improving one's lifestyle.

    • @95keat
      @95keat Před 7 měsíci +40

      The video said the limestone industry in Pakistan only makes around half a million a year. The investment would immediately fail, that's just not enough money to support a mill.

    • @Hizbullla
      @Hizbullla Před 7 měsíci +26

      Safe to say that any sort of commercialized production will leave a paper trail, and no one would be willing to trade with a company that gets their material at $2/day and subsequently have their name next to it.

    • @muhumuzaemmanuel8854
      @muhumuzaemmanuel8854 Před 7 měsíci +28

      In Uganda, a huge gold deposit was denied development by locals as they predicted that developing it would make them lose out on jobs. Democracy ain't really straight out here. But you have a point

    • @muhumuzaemmanuel8854
      @muhumuzaemmanuel8854 Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@droopy_eyes you're very right on this. It happens with every big project in uganda

  • @BluntedBaboon
    @BluntedBaboon Před 7 měsíci +17

    ayy been working a USA aluminum and a steel mill for 12 years, these guys seem okay.

  • @ChadWilson
    @ChadWilson Před 7 měsíci +26

    Pakistan could easily bring in heavy equipment to mine and process the limestone by the ton for pennies on the pound. There is simply must be no care on the part of the government to improve the lives of these workers.

    • @bctpcp9546
      @bctpcp9546 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I sure this has been assessed and the grade of limestone is very poor, probably not worth mining in the first place. This aspect was not explored nor discussed in this short doc which really set about making claims about CO2 etc. Usually if there's big money to be made when it comes to quarrying limestone for cement/lime then nothing will stop a quarry being formed and rock removed until nothing left of a mountain. I've seen this all around the world, sometimes mountains disappearing for cement production. This was a low grade powdery rock almost looking oolitic.

  • @peterwest7855
    @peterwest7855 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Before we start blaming; there are still similar operations like this in Northern Greece ( part of Europe), just over the border in Macedonia , I have seen them. The kilns are smaller, but fired with used tires. The workers are covered in black smoke from head to feet. In addition to the exposure to quicklime they are also exposed to arsenic and sulphur from the rubber tires. The land they have worked over is covered with black ash and waste steel wire. The Lime is mainly used to white wash houses against the summer heat.

  • @randyearles1634
    @randyearles1634 Před 7 měsíci +39

    to say they are not trained to handle explosives is stupid. they have a lifetime of experience. I would trust them before I would trust someone straight out of a school.

    • @canadiangemstones7636
      @canadiangemstones7636 Před 7 měsíci +4

      You know not of what you speak.

    • @pixelpatter01
      @pixelpatter01 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Like tamping blackpowder in a hole with a steel rod?

    • @salvatoreshiggerino6810
      @salvatoreshiggerino6810 Před 5 měsíci +4

      If they were actually trained they wouldn’t be using black powder, they would be using ANFO or some other industrial blasting agent. Black powder makes absolutely no sense here.

    • @pixelpatter01
      @pixelpatter01 Před 5 měsíci

      I would disagree with you there; blackpowder is perfectly suitable and powerful enough to heave limestone and crack boulders. It is also simpler and cheaper to use than high explosives. If this was a huge enterprise with power equipment and pneumatic drills you could justify commercial explosives. I could speculate he used to do all his digging by hand and using blackpowder is something new for him. Just my opinion. @@salvatoreshiggerino6810

    • @longestvideoever
      @longestvideoever Před měsícem

      Nah this is a flawed comment.

  • @AbidHussainBhatti
    @AbidHussainBhatti Před 7 měsíci +33

    I am From Sindh Pakistan ,,, This City Rohri Is So Near To Me, I Know These Workers Are Very Hard Workers & They Still Lives Like This Way, But Some One Have To Do Something To Feed His/Her Family ... Thanx For Mentioning Pakistan In Your Videos

  • @Tammissa
    @Tammissa Před 7 měsíci +53

    It’s so terrible that they don’t have any protective gear for them to wear. At least face masks that filter what they breath in. But I have to mention that having 7 kids isn’t a very good decision financially. Being so desperately poor then having baby after baby is like slowly destroying your family. Every extra mouth to feed takes away from the children that are already born.

    • @prophecyrat2965
      @prophecyrat2965 Před 7 měsíci +20

      They need more hands to help with the work too, even tho it would be less mouths to feed it also means less hands to help work and survive, been the problem of humans slave to civilization since the begining.

    • @noterrormanagement
      @noterrormanagement Před 7 měsíci +9

      They NEED to have children.

    • @AhJodie
      @AhJodie Před 7 měsíci +3

      I don't know what religion they are, but Catholics were against using birth control, and birth control is not easy to get in many places.... and, children are raised to help, so almost everyone can do something to bring in food.... even working in the fields to grow the food.....

    • @sandeeps2943
      @sandeeps2943 Před 7 měsíci

      They are not educated,they just following the custom as it were in past, people make many kids because some of them die illness , survival rates are low in past

    • @seze5931
      @seze5931 Před 7 měsíci

      NO THEY DONT NEED MORE KIDS.
      It looks like some people don't know but planet earth doesn't grow.
      WE LIVE ON FINITE PLANET. More kids equal more mouth to feed more resources to keep them alive , more arable land to produce food for them , more water and list go on and on. First,: stop being a religious idiot , second, try to give proper education to your kids. Third : stop breeding like a rabbit.

  • @Gunda0506
    @Gunda0506 Před 7 měsíci +45

    Poverty is a curse which nobody should have.

    • @meni_v
      @meni_v Před 7 měsíci

      yeah if there had the chance to think of building a industry on in they would get rich but that gene is not working for them and the work with no shoes

    • @gene8675
      @gene8675 Před 7 měsíci +2

      It takes generations of hard work and a decent political situation to escape it. Most people won't sacrifice for their kids future as a tight knit society. Historically most of the world has been poor. Western civilization is becoming poor by bringing in millions more poor.

  • @archstanton_live
    @archstanton_live Před 7 měsíci +6

    In the beginning, when the smoke is black, they are starting the kiln with old tires from the highway.

    • @archstanton_live
      @archstanton_live Před 7 měsíci +1

      this moves anthropogenic detritus into the atmosphere. This helps keep the area clean

  • @jeffreysokal7264
    @jeffreysokal7264 Před 7 měsíci +67

    It's pretty incredible to see how much of the human species struggle to eek a meager living from the earth. Developed societies have lost touch with how much of our species live. Long overdue for an awakening.

    • @M3rVsT4H
      @M3rVsT4H Před 7 měsíci +5

      It's worse than that. Developed households of the West are under the same financial stress as these guys.. Just on a grander scale. What Developed societies have lost touch with is our corporate overlords. Who now set the prices globally. These poor guys aren't competing with the guys down the road. They're competing with people who own massive machines and ships, who set the pricepoint for limestone based on volume. And care about nothing other than profits.

    • @karlscher5170
      @karlscher5170 Před 6 měsíci

      How about the underdeveloped primitives in their shtholes wake up and lesrn science and technology?

    • @M3rVsT4H
      @M3rVsT4H Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@wbay3848 Having a laugh because I just spent way too long thinking about where I would want a 4th Summer house. lol.

    • @danielmanly4793
      @danielmanly4793 Před 3 měsíci

      @@M3rVsT4H Nothing like a maxed financial situation involving a home and two BMW payments to really make you feel like a miner.

    • @DeuceGenius
      @DeuceGenius Před 3 měsíci

      Everyone is struggling.

  • @williampringle2307
    @williampringle2307 Před 7 měsíci +5

    This is how its been done for thousends of years(without the help of explosives for much of it) hard dangerous work. There were still kilns scattered around here in portugal in the 80s.

  • @fordguy8792
    @fordguy8792 Před 7 měsíci +12

    What I fail to understand is why these people have so many children knowing how poor they are. That fellow at the end says he won't let the next generation work at the kilns but he hasn't the money to put them through school so they can do something else. Do they just have kids and hope for a better tomorrow?

    • @AkhaLosii-js6tl
      @AkhaLosii-js6tl Před 7 měsíci +7

      Unlike developed countries people from the third world countries don't get paid social welfare benefits, the day stop working, their income dries up. Having children to look after them at old age is their social security.

    • @lmao1660
      @lmao1660 Před 7 měsíci +4

      In places like these children are your social security

    • @7_years_and_
      @7_years_and_ Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@lmao1660 how is a social security when one is bringing more people to suffer .poverty doesn't change may be get worst

    • @onlypranav
      @onlypranav Před 7 měsíci +3

      There is no guarentee how many children would survive. When you are doing something this dangerous and no money for medicine, your insurance is in numbers. As it had been the generation before. Also socially that what everyone expects. The reasons why every country in the past had higher birth rates are pretty universal - poverty, uneducated women, lack of medical care, but also (not to be discounted are) social/religious expectations which play a part here

    • @steampossum7905
      @steampossum7905 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@7_years_and_ The reality is that when labor is cheap and long hours of hard work brings in too little money to live, more children means more hands to help around the home, meaning more time available that can be spent working and earning an income, and more people who can eventually start bringing money into the household themselves. And, ultimately, a guarantee to the parents that they will have someone to look after them and provide for them when they become too old or infirm to continue working.
      For people living in deep poverty without outside assistance, having a large family often eases the financial burden. Unfortunately poverty is a terrible trap and widespread exploitation guarantees it's often still not enough.

  • @Invincible_joe
    @Invincible_joe Před 7 měsíci +72

    "... and his 7 sons..." Problem of entire South Asia quoted in just four words.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 Před 7 měsíci +6

      That's silly. If they were starving, they wouldn't be having routine sex.

    • @Mcfunface
      @Mcfunface Před 7 měsíci +39

      In a country with little social security or retirement programs, children are your disability insurance in old age.

    • @samelmudir
      @samelmudir Před 7 měsíci +28

      each child is a wage earner. you need all the help if you're working jobs like this or in farming without heavy machinery

    • @carlesc5497
      @carlesc5497 Před 7 měsíci +8

      That’s what I thought. 7 sons!!!!!!!!!!

    • @bakaweeb6396
      @bakaweeb6396 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@Mcfunfaceyou need to understand.. you guys are living in future while east which has been destroyed by west greed is living in past.. children are their investment .. boys earn .. so they reproduce .. they don't have education too so they don't know much about these things.. you have to understand them not criticize them while sitting in a cozy bed ...

  • @potatoeoverlord9430
    @potatoeoverlord9430 Před 7 měsíci +7

    It's crazy that people work so hard for so little.

    • @tubester4567
      @tubester4567 Před 7 měsíci

      Its crazy they are working so hard for whitewash walls.

  • @LunedisTerz
    @LunedisTerz Před 7 měsíci +6

    I remember me at my own childhood where we go in the landscapes in the city where no buildings are.. We digg the complete days holes and i was a little stone collector. It makes me sad.. I was in peace and think.. It would be a great job if i could do this later.. And now this.. Yeah.. Great wisdomness of this little me. I see other documentary from you.. Same stonemining but other minerals... Its all the same.. They dont earn much but do a hard job. And i have sooo much respect of your filming skill. All this as a documentary looks great and i dont have the feeling of getting brainwashed. Very rare in these days

  • @crypto1upteam750
    @crypto1upteam750 Před 7 měsíci +19

    Only half a million usd export, there are macdonald franchises that make more than that lol. I understand why their goverment doesnt really care about illegal mining

    • @gordonpasha3126
      @gordonpasha3126 Před 7 měsíci

      In the meantime they produced the atomic bomb......

  • @gabbysmith7579
    @gabbysmith7579 Před 7 měsíci +11

    Please tell me insider payed at least a thousand USD per person for this video
    Like the money made from CZcams alone would have an impact insider will be just fine without it

  • @CarsCatAliens
    @CarsCatAliens Před 7 měsíci +46

    While I understand the dynamics and structure of places like this in the world, with the poorest doing the hardest,most dangerous work for almost nothing, it still saddens me that there is enormous wealth in the world, while these folks suffer. No fault of their own either. They were simply born into a poor family.

    • @user-fv1uf9bf4r
      @user-fv1uf9bf4r Před 7 měsíci

      no guilt? the way your tongue turns. Of course not, they were just born in this place. but the blame lies with those who were not born in this place and did nothing to make this place more civilized. Instead of supplying weapons to conflicts, some countries could spend their money elsewhere.

    • @-saklo-2256
      @-saklo-2256 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Still these morons are radical believers... see what this 'poor pakistanis' are doing in UK and Europe...

    • @zteaxon7787
      @zteaxon7787 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@user-fv1uf9bf4rIt is not the fault of the succesful farmer that the unsuccesful farmer has little food.
      There is enormous undeserved wealth yes. But not all wealth is undeserved. And not all poverty is the result of malice, exploitation.

    • @simonphoenix3789
      @simonphoenix3789 Před 7 měsíci

      There are a lot more poor people than rich and middle class people out there. And while rich and middle income people tend to have few kids, poor people tend to have far too many, so the problem always stays the same or gets worse. Its nobodies fault. The best you can hope for is that a country's wealth improves and that the government is effective enough to use some of that tax money to improve the lot of people at the bottom. You can't do away with poverty unless you do away with all wealth inequality, the best you can hope for is to make being poor less terrible.

    • @user-fv1uf9bf4r
      @user-fv1uf9bf4r Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@simonphoenix3789 In kindergarten there are children of different incomes. someone can play with toys, but someone is too stupid and poor for this. The only thing you can do about it is nothing. Bravo! The earth has never seen such idiocy. Explained poverty by the number of children! When you are poor, children are all you have, this is your pension. The rich just don't need it. Can inequality still be eliminated? Let's try to help our brothers on the planet? I believe that capitalism is not the only system and not the most perfect one.

  • @joecat916
    @joecat916 Před 7 měsíci +5

    When i was young and lived in the country in Pennsylvania abandoned lime kilns were common. A very old farmer said they would let the lime in rows until it rained. He said the lime would ignite and burn green and blue when it got wet. I guess after that it was safe to sell? Anyway lime is nasty stuff, but is good stuff also.

    • @GinHindew110
      @GinHindew110 Před 7 měsíci +1

      the lime you can buy for construction is already moistured, "hydro lime" it was called a few decades ago, but they went back to just "lime" when they realized no one was selling "dry" lime anymore
      Its still a powder and annoying, but it doesnt burn

  • @user-nf7tt2uo1r
    @user-nf7tt2uo1r Před 2 měsíci +1

    There were thousands of these kilns across Pennsylvania up until 1900 when industrialization made them obsolete. You can still find these throughout the state. Great history that buikt the U.S.

  • @0dbm
    @0dbm Před 7 měsíci +1

    That is a beautiful kiln.
    Thank you

  • @CIS101
    @CIS101 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I am saddened by this. I am not successful, but I am fortunate to have a decent job, and I am thankful for that.

  • @WWCephas
    @WWCephas Před 7 měsíci +4

    Farming has become unpredictable. What an asinine statement. Farming is ALWAYS unpredictable.

  • @Mahira110
    @Mahira110 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanx for the information you shared ❤❤

  • @Connorthorpewilliams
    @Connorthorpewilliams Před 7 měsíci +14

    What’s crazy is in the uk lime kilms are part of our history and are part of history curriculum in the uk being taught to us about how 200 years ago we did similar things but these people can’t even afford the education, it’s like they are still living in the industrial revolution hundreds of years in the past just so we can keep advancing.

    • @onlypranav
      @onlypranav Před 7 měsíci +5

      Agree with most of it.. but that last part. Why is it your fault that a country independent for three quarters of a century cannot develop it's markets? How is it helping you guys advance

    • @Connorthorpewilliams
      @Connorthorpewilliams Před 7 měsíci +1

      essentially the market decides and dictates the price so if the main market for cement and other high end building materials are going to go into the wealthy high end countries then places like Pakistan may be independent but economically are dependent on countries like chain India and France and the uk to but the raw materials and resources as they will consume vast amounts of materials such as cement to continue "growing the economy" when all they are doing is wasting valuable resources which have been toiled away for, the same can be said for lithium and zinc.
      Personally I think its just a wrong philosophy to have in the modern day in age where we need good quality reasorses but they are running out so therefore you must make the most of the high end reasorses we have instead of wasting them for marginal gains which are blanketed with the word "growth".
      that's just my opinion though everyone else is welcome to there own.@@onlypranav

  • @willcookmakeup
    @willcookmakeup Před 7 měsíci +66

    This makes me so sad they had to quit school to go work in the mine. The desparity in everyday life around the world is truly baffling and unfair

    • @johnreazin1074
      @johnreazin1074 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Lol

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 Před 7 měsíci

      Disparity*

    • @Ayesha_6I
      @Ayesha_6I Před 7 měsíci +5

      ​@@TheDogGoesWoof69 you're bothered enough to comment and watch a video about Pakistan??? You're clearly loosing sleep doing that darling

    • @huzifavesos
      @huzifavesos Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@TheDogGoesWoof69 Indian I guess?

    • @zirzmokealot4600
      @zirzmokealot4600 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@huzifavesoshindian

  • @Meghnaaad
    @Meghnaaad Před 7 měsíci +3

    “7 sons”, pretty much sums up their whole situation

    • @hamzaghazi
      @hamzaghazi Před 7 měsíci +2

      true, family planning is needed in many parts of the world. But for these people having more children means more wokers to help earn also

  • @SergeantExtreme
    @SergeantExtreme Před 4 měsíci

    We have these here in Wisconsin. We used to be one of America's largest lime producers. The operation has long since shut down, but the kilns are still here. If you visit Lime Kiln Park in Menomonee Falls, you can see them for yourself.

  • @jnak974
    @jnak974 Před 7 měsíci +53

    I think they’re work would be easier if someone just took the time to simplify the work load. Like bundle the palm fronds so it’s a denser form of energy that will burn longer. Build the kiln with 2 openings so you can feed the fire away from the direction the wind is blowing at, put something to leverage the pole so you don’t have to stay as close to the fire.

    • @daverobertson5352
      @daverobertson5352 Před 7 měsíci +12

      there is so much that is simple.I dont understand why they dont get that

    • @alanwatts8239
      @alanwatts8239 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@daverobertson5352They want us to donate so they can live without working.

    • @key7817
      @key7817 Před 7 měsíci +2

      On your first comment, thats not how energy works, it would just realease over a longer time. These people are experts they cant read or write but if they can one thing its that job, to assume you can do better by "streamling" the process you just saw a 30 min Vid about wich they have been doing for generations is egozentric at best and razist at worst.
      Should they also go to the next walmarkt to buy power tools? =D

    • @jnak974
      @jnak974 Před 7 měsíci

      @@key7817 May god assist you on your journey called life. If you don’t believe a god, may your existence contribute to society in a positive way. Have a nice day.

    • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252
      @chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@daverobertson5352look at Pakistan's inbreeding statistics...

  • @ernestestrada2461
    @ernestestrada2461 Před 7 měsíci +4

    In industrialized countries this work is automated and uses modern equipment.
    It's sad that due to corruption their government hasn't mandated more machinery and automation.
    Poor countries face the difficult decision between abundant manpower versus investment in costly machinery and production facilities which they can't easily afford. Then they require educated people to run these machines and factories to keep them working and to maintain them.

  • @krakatoainc2809
    @krakatoainc2809 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This is a very interesting view into what the they are up to in Pakistan. These workers will be rewarded in the afterlife.

  • @muhammaduzair5384
    @muhammaduzair5384 Před 7 měsíci

    Amazing documentary 👍

  • @pradzee123
    @pradzee123 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Don't have food to eat, but has 7 sons.. priorities..

    • @AhJodie
      @AhJodie Před 7 měsíci

      I don't know what religion they are, but Catholics were against using birth control, and birth control is not easy to get in many places.... and, children are raised to help, so almost everyone can do something to bring in food.... even working in the fields to grow the food.....

  • @DJ-bh1ju
    @DJ-bh1ju Před 7 měsíci +3

    The first minute of narrative explained everything - 7 sons... didn't even bother listing the daughters (women are livestock in that part of the world).

  • @watduh123
    @watduh123 Před 4 měsíci

    Real warriors, fathers, and men. This is why when they come to other countries they are so strong and can take any jobs. I bow to them all.

  • @sindhflood7521
    @sindhflood7521 Před 3 měsíci

    Excellent task very informative it's real cause 👍❤️

  • @chuckfindlaydangershow5640
    @chuckfindlaydangershow5640 Před 7 měsíci +3

    just like anywhere some people just get stuck nothing new not just happening here or there it's everywhere... it's all about the choices we make people do make good ones...

  • @DuyPham-xd8lp
    @DuyPham-xd8lp Před 7 měsíci +70

    The more I learn about the world, the more I realize every job is deadly

    • @josephmedina6403
      @josephmedina6403 Před 7 měsíci +1

      If the desert isn't hot enough this guy stands and works next to a °1600 fire in it

    • @mathemat3939
      @mathemat3939 Před 7 měsíci +18

      Its so deadly being a software engineer working from home and making 7 figures.

    • @j.marden9164
      @j.marden9164 Před 7 měsíci

      my thoughts exactly
      @@mathemat3939

    • @michaelkendall662
      @michaelkendall662 Před 7 měsíci

      I used to run a 340' long one at a processing plant to get the CO2 for injecting into the brine to bubble out Soda Ash.....our front end was 2600 degrees F and the kiln was in the Mojave Desert where the temperature in Aug could reach 130.....the byproduct quicklime has a chemical reaction with water causing enough heat to burn skin....ours was sold as an additive for Portland Cement

    • @noterrormanagement
      @noterrormanagement Před 7 měsíci +10

      @@mathemat3939 Right. What a nonsensical comment.

  • @marctorrades1760
    @marctorrades1760 Před 3 měsíci +1

    My granddad did this job in France.
    Finished dying with lungs collapsing.
    He was an immigrant looking for better life .

  • @CRKramics
    @CRKramics Před 7 měsíci +1

    I work with ceramics and this is very sad to see. Not the kiln but the workers situation. The owner doesn't care, probably because he knows they can be replaced. 😢. Firing a kiln like that is VERY hot and difficult.

  • @danielasif7377
    @danielasif7377 Před 7 měsíci +16

    Well, the man produced 7 sons to make his labour force, if he had produced maybe 2 sons, he might be able to educate them properly to acquire a better life. Above all no work is low-level work everyone has to do something.

    • @prophecyrat2965
      @prophecyrat2965 Před 7 měsíci

      They are the slaves of Civilizations progress, the colonial peoples did the same in America, breeding and making children to work in factories and farms.

    • @zainkhalid3670
      @zainkhalid3670 Před 7 měsíci +6

      He produced 7 sons so that they can all share their income and survive. They probably live together and share their kitchen to minimize costs. They are stuck in a loop they can't escape. If he did not produce any sons so that his future generation won't have to suffer then he would die of starvation at old age because he won't receive any pension or financial support.

    • @tangimeme
      @tangimeme Před 7 měsíci +2

      That's not even a possible reality for so many families in situations like this let alone a probable one. For one, they often don't have conventional educations let alone zex ed, plus contraception isn't necessarily available. On top of that, it's likely that each son contributes more to the household finances than gets used on him personally, so they're probably all more likely to survive this way. I don't understand why you'd assume having less kids would have made a difference when the man earns $2 a day and doesn't have better options available. None of them want to work there, but upward social mobility is a struggle even in wealthy countries. You need to consider and really understand the complex conditions and context. There are a lot of reasons whole families get stuck in jobs where they risk their lives for a couple of bucks, but the number of kids they have probably doesn't even make the top 50 😅 This comment is already getting long, but I can tell you some of the main ones if you're curious and want to know more 🤷‍♀️

  • @Lok_Seva_Ayurvedic
    @Lok_Seva_Ayurvedic Před 7 měsíci +3

    Maybe if all of them didn't have 7 to 10 children each

  • @vetrieska11
    @vetrieska11 Před 3 měsíci

    i remember some remains of kilns like these in Poland, also fed with wood. they were in use until about 2000 when last were abandoned. but mining limestone looked like here in 1950ies i think. Later there were excavators, drills and use on Anfo for rock blasting, as it is now.

  • @timmyteehee9490
    @timmyteehee9490 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I don't think a limestone kiln in pakistan has any effect on global warming
    i'd be more worried about the pollutants in the black smoke having an effect on the workers and local community.

    • @pur3_kill.
      @pur3_kill. Před 7 měsíci

      There are multiple limestone kilns scattered across the south, sometimes just kilometres apart, so the amount of emissions expelled is much more than you think.

  • @jamesraymond1158
    @jamesraymond1158 Před 7 měsíci +17

    Fascinating. Expertly filmed and narrated. What are the chemical changes in limestone when it is heated? What is difference between limestone and lime? I looked it up: limestone (CaCO3) + oxygen ---> lime( Calcium oxide and calcium hydroxide)

    • @berzerius
      @berzerius Před 7 měsíci +6

      Oxygen is not required .
      CaCO3+ heat = CaO+CO2
      CaO+H2O = Ca(OH)2
      Limestone releases carbon dioxide when heated and turns into Quick lime.
      Quick lime added to water makes Caustic Lime.

    • @jamesraymond1158
      @jamesraymond1158 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Great correction. The eqns are balanced.@@berzerius

    • @sridharmurthy1076
      @sridharmurthy1076 Před 7 měsíci +3

      CaO+H2O=Ca(OH)2 is known as slaked lime which can be used for white washing wall.

    • @inquisitive-
      @inquisitive- Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@berzeriuswow. 1800s to early 1900s American eugenics was called cacogenics and specific families and regions were targeted and now that you gave the chemical formulas for limestone, I'd bet they were limestone workers.

  • @hypock1
    @hypock1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The contributions to greenhouse gasses and polution from manual Labor kilns is a drop in the ocean compared to modern industrial mining and refining efforts

  • @LAStars-sratS
    @LAStars-sratS Před 3 měsíci

    I am so sorry that these people are treated so badly. Sickening.

  • @framusburns-hagstromiii808
    @framusburns-hagstromiii808 Před 7 měsíci +4

    And yet they suffer because their culture prevents them from making the necessary political changes that would eventually raise living conditions for the entire region. Choices have consequences.

  • @american7169
    @american7169 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Umm thats not "dynomite"...

  • @fajarkurniawan9434
    @fajarkurniawan9434 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Always like that
    They know they're poor
    But still have so many children

  • @whynotjustmyusername
    @whynotjustmyusername Před 3 měsíci

    So what explosive is it now that they are using: dynamite, gunpowder or ammonium nitrate ("fertilizer")?

  • @melem7926
    @melem7926 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Thanks for such an informative documentary

  • @orion3253
    @orion3253 Před 7 měsíci +9

    You're framing this story completely incorrectly. The issue isn't the job, it isn't the lack of resources or the environment, it's the lack of rule of law and the fact that these men are victims of a system of modern day slavery like so many other Pakistani men, women, and children.

  • @jenelybdumanig4046
    @jenelybdumanig4046 Před 7 měsíci

    Salute to this man doinh hardwork

  • @tvviewer4500
    @tvviewer4500 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It’s really not even close to one of the most dangerous jobs in the world. This has been done for thousands of years

  • @samsonsoturian6013
    @samsonsoturian6013 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Fairly typical for industry in this region.

  • @mrbake6933
    @mrbake6933 Před 7 měsíci +2

    What fascinates me is they are using no fossil fuels. This post would be longer but I’ve got to grab a latte and meet my friends to plan our next just stop oil protest.

  • @user-xd1er7sg7z
    @user-xd1er7sg7z Před 4 měsíci

    I know lots of guys caught at the limestone mine for life.. New Canaan, Connecticut USA

  • @_GMP_
    @_GMP_ Před 7 měsíci +3

    From where do Pakistan get its cement?
    Cement manufacturers aren't they investing in machineries & mechanising the limestone exports

    • @drekelley2352
      @drekelley2352 Před 7 měsíci

      That's what I was wondering. Maybe they get a kick out watching their people suffer.

    • @huzifavesos
      @huzifavesos Před 7 měsíci +1

      Pakistan is self-sufficient in cement production and they have big units for that demand in real estate also. Check Pioneer Cement, Best Way Cement and Maple Cement. All of them are working with sophisticated machinery and laws. But the lime mounds shown here are just a small scale...easy earning and low labour cost measures of "Land Lords" of these backward areas in Rural Sindh Province. These Land Lords are totally illiterate themselves and don't even know what labour rights are. Believe me even if someone shows them this video, they won't even flinch a bit. Cause they don't even know what's wrong with this. That's the level of ignorance in rural areas.

  • @wybuchowyukomendant
    @wybuchowyukomendant Před 7 měsíci +2

    That`s a huge fail of pakistani government.

  • @imnotyourfriendbuddy1883
    @imnotyourfriendbuddy1883 Před 7 měsíci +1

    6:52
    I sold my soul to the company store.

  • @87bu11seye87
    @87bu11seye87 Před 7 měsíci +3

    The Parthenon is made of marble, not limestone...

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq Před 7 měsíci +2

      That's what I thought....then I realized that they're painting with a broad brush. Marble is metamorphic limestone. And they're also mixing concrete in with the limestone.
      So it's about miserable lives in Pakistan...not a popular chemistry lesson.

  • @michaelbailey7483
    @michaelbailey7483 Před 5 měsíci +2

    It's hard to believe that some people in the US actually cry and say that their life is rough they have no damn clue what it's really like to suffer

  • @davidbowie5023
    @davidbowie5023 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Pakistan is a tragedy of its own self. It should have become a prosperous country, but look what's going on and considering their hardship, I can't help but questioning about this country's cycle of miseries.

    • @mogim815
      @mogim815 Před 7 měsíci

      indeed David Bowie, famous singer, songwriter, musician, and actor.

  • @peter8488
    @peter8488 Před 7 měsíci +1

    01:35 limestone when acid is added will dissolve and make the hole for them, too bad I don't know what materials they have around them.

  • @mwmentor
    @mwmentor Před 7 měsíci +7

    It is really amazing, in a not good way, how these workers are so badly exploited and how little they are paid.

    • @xenofurmi
      @xenofurmi Před 7 měsíci

      I don't think they're "exploited". It sounds like a family business where they make lime for profit. It does sounds like dangerous work, though.

  • @TheBic4
    @TheBic4 Před 7 měsíci +14

    Hard to feel bad for these people when they are in extreme poverty and get the bright idea to start a family that they never had the ability to adequately support. Don’t have kids if you can barely support yourself!!!!!

  • @mariosevangelou7278
    @mariosevangelou7278 Před 7 měsíci

    Heartbreaking

  • @Lola-gu1wx
    @Lola-gu1wx Před 2 měsíci

    Cool

  • @salamandermo
    @salamandermo Před 7 měsíci +3

    my god work and work and work and they cant even make ends meet and oh come to your boss for a loan. this is just slavery minus the whips

  • @sreetips
    @sreetips Před 7 měsíci +2

    Apocalypto

  • @ThePete69641
    @ThePete69641 Před 5 měsíci

    Heart breaking that there are people out their working so dam hard and get almost nothing in return

  • @tvismyonlyfriend
    @tvismyonlyfriend Před 7 měsíci

    Some times tumours grow in the feet that were once broken it can have side effects for later on

  • @DeathsGarden-oz9gg
    @DeathsGarden-oz9gg Před 7 měsíci +4

    They can at least put a wet cloth over there face to help reduce there problem.
    Also using gas from decaying stuff can make this way less co2.
    How well collect garbage organic stuff wood food waste in fact go to a restaurant and ask for there food waste and that can/will power your killn.

  • @bobbycole7537
    @bobbycole7537 Před 7 měsíci +17

    When people struggle as individuals, but decide to have a small classroom worth of children, who will all suffer from the decisions of their parents, I lose sympathy. Life is hard, but creating your own suffering is easily avoidable.

    • @oskarjankowski5709
      @oskarjankowski5709 Před 7 měsíci +2

      When it is a natural instinct to procreate, unless something else overrides it then what do you do.

    • @bobbycole7537
      @bobbycole7537 Před 7 měsíci

      @@oskarjankowski5709 sure, I love having sex with my wife as much as the next guy, however, I also know I'm in no position to raise a small army so I got a vasectomy after my second child.

    • @mogim815
      @mogim815 Před 7 měsíci +6

      "poor people don't deserve sympathy, because they chose to have 7 kids" that's what happens when there's little to no access to sexual education or contraceptives; this isn't just a guy who chose to have 7 sons, this is a well documented trend that is a result of the very poverty you would supposedly sympathize with.

    • @bobbycole7537
      @bobbycole7537 Před 7 měsíci

      @@mogim815 It doesn't take an education to understand that having sex leads to babies, and having babies leads to financial hardship. Even monkeys understand that too many offspring will hinder the harem, or "family" so they will often desert or neglect their young.

    • @bobbycole7537
      @bobbycole7537 Před 7 měsíci

      @@mogim815 and another thing, I'm poor but I don't expect the world to cater to me over my decisions. Period.

  • @danwi6000
    @danwi6000 Před 5 měsíci

    This is why people should oppose all deregulation of business and Factories.

  • @thathaslage
    @thathaslage Před 7 měsíci +1

    I did 10 years in a small copper alloy foundry in the US... I feel my job was just as dangerous. We do what we have to do to make the rich richer under the illusion its the only way to feel our families. Somtimes you have to walk away and risk the journey to something else. What do you have to lose but the opportunity to work like that forever?

  • @WilhelmDrake
    @WilhelmDrake Před 7 měsíci +3

    This is why we need government regulation and universal education and healthcare.

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq Před 7 měsíci +1

      It's Pakistan....the government spends all the money on the military.

  • @innerlight7018
    @innerlight7018 Před 7 měsíci +5

    "seven sons" - There you have the reason of poverty.

    • @AhJodie
      @AhJodie Před 7 měsíci +1

      You talk like that, and your name is inner light? What?

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq Před 7 měsíci

      Maybe he's the inner light of basic mathematical logic. @@AhJodie

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies Před 7 měsíci +1

    $32 per annum for a mining permit?
    I guess that indicates just how little the limestone is worth. What is a shame is that these men are doing the same work as 1,000 years ago, except with some dynamite. :( Just one man with a modest 10-ton excavator could release as much stone as 100 men in one day. Probably a lot more.
    Very sad to see the modern machine-driven economy not working for these people.

    • @siddharthgoyal4008
      @siddharthgoyal4008 Před 7 měsíci +1

      limestone is also heavy and honestly abundant so it's not something you can feasibly transport/export.

  • @wensow
    @wensow Před 7 měsíci

    Good

  • @daves3259
    @daves3259 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Mashallah. Pakistan peoples are truly blessed!

    • @globalshiftwilton
      @globalshiftwilton Před 7 měsíci

      The sarcasm just shines through you.

    • @huzifavesos
      @huzifavesos Před 7 měsíci +2

      That's not even sarcasm rather a cheap and lame imitation of humour. 🙂

  • @bigslinking
    @bigslinking Před 7 měsíci +5

    No MSHA awesome... those miners are so lucky to free from government bureaucrat BS. Really cool video thanks for posting.

    • @TroyMartins1984
      @TroyMartins1984 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Yeah because safety is so underrated right? /s

  • @chulangjj
    @chulangjj Před 2 měsíci

    the loss of vegetation (trees) which act as shade is one of the reason why the place is hot

  • @mirrorflame1988
    @mirrorflame1988 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Sad and terrifying!!

  • @AEVMU
    @AEVMU Před 7 měsíci +4

    Why do people like this keep having kids? You think your kids that you invented, that you created, want that life? Why would you do that to someone? How selfish.

    • @AhJodie
      @AhJodie Před 7 měsíci +1

      I don't know what religion they are, but Catholics were against using birth control, and birth control is not easy to get in many places.... and, children are raised to help, so almost everyone can do something to bring in food.... even working in the fields to grow the food.....

  • @indianskeptic3451
    @indianskeptic3451 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Jinnah's dream. Thank God they separated from "fascist Hindoo Endia". They are so lucky to work in these death factories now! Iqbal ka khwaab

    • @drmodestoesq
      @drmodestoesq Před 7 měsíci

      Said Jinnah when he was polishing off some pork chops and a glass of scotch.

  • @chulangjj
    @chulangjj Před 2 měsíci

    My Grad dad and Great Uncle owned a limestone quarry

  • @Matt.P.
    @Matt.P. Před 7 měsíci +2

    Wah wah wah. Just do your job.

  • @johncase1353
    @johncase1353 Před 7 měsíci +2

    You now a 3rd world country when they are using slightly more advanced technology than the Aztecs.

  • @windrider23
    @windrider23 Před 7 měsíci +4

    It's amazing that Pakistan and India can afford atomic weapons. And have this level of poverty in their population. It's sickening how humans prioritize war over compassion.

    • @fahadnazir945
      @fahadnazir945 Před 7 měsíci

      There is saying
      Wisdom doesnot comes freely
      People of india and pakistan have not lost millions of people in world wars eurpeons have learnt his after killing millions of people

    • @quagmire4412
      @quagmire4412 Před 7 měsíci

      lol where is india mentioned ?

    • @sandeeps2943
      @sandeeps2943 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@quagmire4412bro is only aware of poverty in india not how developed it is and a large country can have ratio in everything too

  • @Zilla__man
    @Zilla__man Před 7 měsíci

    Excellent

  • @thisiswaytoocomplicated
    @thisiswaytoocomplicated Před 7 měsíci +2

    "Cooking limestone is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world".
    But really that is only applicable to the third world. Really not an issue for the rest of the world for about a century or longer.
    But we live in one world in the same time - so something is really going wrong there.