5 Reasons Why People HATE Green Day

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  • @beyondartv
    @beyondartv  Před 2 lety +77

    They might be my favorite band, but are the criticisms against them valid? Let's explore 🤔
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  • @MattPlaysBass25
    @MattPlaysBass25 Před 2 lety +362

    Green Day was one of my favorite bands for several years. Eventually, I got severely burned out (no pun intended) on their music for several reasons. I was listening to them way too much for my own good, and I played in a band that covered them almost exclusively. After not listening to them for about 3-4 years, I started listening to them again last spring, and fell in love with their music all over again. I also got to see them on the Hella Mega tour last year, and it was incredible. I had wanted to see them live for years. Side note: Insomniac is actually my favorite Green Day album. I love how dark and heavy it is compared to Dookie.

    • @thatringinginyourears3955
      @thatringinginyourears3955 Před 2 lety +1

      I just missed the hella mega tour in Dallas and I don’t ever think I’ve been as disappointed in my self as i was then

    • @silh3345
      @silh3345 Před 2 lety +9

      I love coming back to a band or album after not having listened to it for a long time. It’s like re discovering your love for something you might have forgotten how much you used to love.

    • @MattPlaysBass25
      @MattPlaysBass25 Před 2 lety +2

      @@silh3345 It really is. It's a great feeling.

    • @MattPlaysBass25
      @MattPlaysBass25 Před 2 lety

      @@thatringinginyourears3955 I wasn't planning on going at first, because the nearest date was at least four hours away, and required a hotel, but my bandmates and I made a road trip out of it.

    • @spookey2004
      @spookey2004 Před 2 lety +4

      Insomniac is my favorite too!

  • @joeyparkhill8751
    @joeyparkhill8751 Před 2 lety +167

    People who hate Green Day for "losing their punk-rock roots" like to conveniently forget that Billie Joe has kept the Gilman Street building from being foreclosed on by buying the property. No, Seriously, look it up!

    • @iliketrains3495
      @iliketrains3495 Před 2 lety +24

      Also, 'ONE FUCKING MINUTE'

    • @wilson9d71
      @wilson9d71 Před 2 lety +5

      Who’s cares judge the music on the quality of the music

    • @Dr.Ohms2024
      @Dr.Ohms2024 Před 6 měsíci +3

      losing? THEY NEVER WERE THEY PUNK!

    • @OuroborosScumbag
      @OuroborosScumbag Před 5 měsíci

      And then they got banned for being in a major label dude. So fuck Green Day

  • @Iaburnie
    @Iaburnie Před 2 lety +279

    Green Day’s existence is forever validated for making Dookie and American Idiot. I don’t care how many Father of All or trilogy tier albums they make. Those two albums are iconic af at this point.

    • @RJIS
      @RJIS Před 2 lety +16

      Trilogy is great imo

    • @allistergraham6704
      @allistergraham6704 Před 2 lety

      @@RJIS That trilogy hurts the soul, Dookie and American Idiot is where its at 👍

    • @AxioChrono
      @AxioChrono Před 2 lety +10

      Father of All wasn't even bad, people just hate it because it's different

    • @t0pdoc
      @t0pdoc Před 2 lety +1

      Im a big fan of the offspring rage against the machine bad religion etc and they all have left their impactful and delightfully loud and clear albums by only a couple or a stash green day is no different.

    • @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan
      @HonestFarmerLigue1Fan Před 2 lety

      @@AxioChrono if "Father of All ..." was made by some random alt-pop band, it would be good. but for Green Day standard, that album sucks donkey's hairy balls

  • @iliketrains3495
    @iliketrains3495 Před 2 lety +54

    Regarding the third point, some of Billie's riffs can be pretty difficult despite being just power chords. I'm part of a music course where we learn six songs that we perform at the end of the course, and one of the songs on this season's setlist is Holiday (voted by me, of course), and let me tell you, that power chord riff before the solo is NOT easy, so I think that's what we're going to struggle on the most. Which is funny because the solo is piss easy

    • @devinvenne
      @devinvenne Před 2 lety +1

      You'll get there :)

    • @user-yl9ws2kh8x
      @user-yl9ws2kh8x Před 2 lety +1

      the power chord riff intro is actually pretty easy but for a beginner it might not be honestly though

    • @theslate7987
      @theslate7987 Před 2 lety +1

      Holiday is so fun to play

  • @philly_sports1558
    @philly_sports1558 Před 2 lety +152

    Green Day was the gateway for so many people into punk rock/pop punk. I think their legacy is absolutely secure as one of rock music’s all time greats. I saw them at the Hella Mega Tour in August and they were absolutely phenomenal. Billie Joe has a level of charisma that hardly anyone can match.

    • @killerch33z
      @killerch33z Před 2 lety +11

      They were my gateway into rock music in general. I was your average kid listening to radio hits until i heard american idiot and dookie for the first time in the mid 2000’s

    • @ThatGuyMofo
      @ThatGuyMofo Před 2 lety +7

      you can like the bands music and not the members. i dont listen to them much because i cant stand billies fake hypocritical social wokeness and crying about trump all the time. i still like some of their songs and im still gonna see them at hella mega mainly for fob though

    • @takodabostwick8507
      @takodabostwick8507 Před 2 lety +2

      Kind of like Metallica, because they're a gateway for many people getting into metal/thrash metal. They will definitely be remembered for their first 5 albums. And some fans think that they haven't made a great album since And Justice For All or The Black Album. Their last 2 studio albums (excluding Lulu with Lou Reed) are pretty solid at best. I actually love Hardwired. I think that it's better than Death Magnetic in my opinion.

    • @takodabostwick8507
      @takodabostwick8507 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ThatGuyMofo just because they're great musicians, it doesn't make they great people. Look at Marylin Manson. His music is fantastic, but he's a douchebag. I think that Dave Mustaine of Megadeth is a great musician, but he's also a douchebag too. Truth hurts, but if you want to know the truth, you're living in your own fantasy world where everything's perfect. Nobody's perfect. Everybody makes mistakes or do terrible things. Everybody has their own flaws. We're human. What do you expect?

    • @ThatGuyMofo
      @ThatGuyMofo Před 2 lety +2

      @@takodabostwick8507 you literally just agreed with my point but tried to be up your own arse and completely wrong 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @alexclancy9467
    @alexclancy9467 Před 2 lety +32

    Green Day is my favorite band of all time, even though I personally couldn't stand the Trilogy or Father of All. They're my favorite band because they've gotten me into punk / alternative music at a very young age, and Dookie is my favorite record of all time. The amount of Troubled Times (no pun intended) that they've helped me through honestly amazes me, and they just seem like genuine people. That being said, I can see why other people hate them. At the end of the day, you can't please everybody, and no band is perfect. Even if Green Day puts out straight trash from here on out, I can't deny the impact that their whole discography (1990-2010) has left on my life.

  • @JudaiEldritch
    @JudaiEldritch Před 2 lety +80

    Hard to believe Billie Joe just turned fifty.

    • @thecomedian6322
      @thecomedian6322 Před 2 lety

      If you're shocked at this Google Jim Carreys age

    • @yalnakcag1926
      @yalnakcag1926 Před 2 lety

      They are fifty years old kids bro.

    • @jerryknuckles736
      @jerryknuckles736 Před 2 lety +1

      If he cut out the makeup and hair dye, it wouldn't be so crazy to imagine.

  • @theseth455
    @theseth455 Před 2 lety +28

    Green Day remain one of my top favorite bands. I’m obviously one of their newer fans since I got into them in 2016 just before the Rev Rad cycle began, but after playing through each of their albums up to that point I was pretty impressed at not only how much material they’ve put out over the many years together but how much of that I ended up really liking (even a few of the songs on FOAMF I still enjoy to this day).
    I can definitely understand how they aren’t for everyone though, and some of the points being made here I can see where some of those other people are coming from.

  • @aidanbishopmusic8056
    @aidanbishopmusic8056 Před 2 lety +9

    I'm a musician and Green Day are the band that inspired me to pick up guitar and do music full time. I love them, always will. I don't listen to them as much anymore because I feel like I have to play catchup with all these other bands, classic and new that I've not heard of.
    In college I struggled to play power chords, but it was Green Day that got me into playing them properly. After a Christmas gig where I played Boulevard of Broken Dreams I decided to take a step back from the band. I love them, but after a while I just became known as the Green Day guy. They're on the back burner for me, I love them to pieces and owe a lot to them. It was Holiday that made me feel like I could be a musician like that's what I want to do. The only reason I don't really listen to them anymore is because I feel so behind with other bands old and new. It's an odd angle, but that's me. The band will always creep into my music in someway but for now I've unintentionally moved away from them.

  • @iast3154
    @iast3154 Před 2 lety +50

    Green Day is my all-time favorite band! A lot of the criticisms are valid and have some merit, but frankly, those issues aren’t that big of a deal to me. Yeah they use like 4 chords. Who cares? Still sounds great. Politics? Yeah, that’s what makes them punk. Overexposed? Maybe, but it’s called being popular. You like what you like, dislike what you dislike, and I respect all opinions, but no one can ever take Green Day away from me or anyone else that calls themself a fan

  • @albinobangz9182
    @albinobangz9182 Před 2 lety +23

    Even if people hate Green Day, I will still be here happily listening to them :)

  • @Stefan_Gerards
    @Stefan_Gerards Před 2 lety +21

    right on Jon, i’ve been missing this series lately! honestly i don’t even care if people hate Green Day, they’re one of my top 3 favorite bands besides Linkin Park and Bring Me the Horizon, and my favorite Pop Punk/Punk Rock band. sure, they have some stinkers/forgettable tunes (most of Father of All, some of the trilogy), but even those are still dumb fun to various degrees!
    PLUS Dookie, Insomniac and American Idiot are some of THE BEST ALTERNATIVE/PUNK ALBUMS OF ALL TIME.

    • @charlottestreet3301
      @charlottestreet3301 Před 2 lety

      You have a good list of bands there I also like BMTH and LP and green day you should give the amity affection a listen

    • @ballerroblox652
      @ballerroblox652 Před 2 lety

      I like Nimrod and Warning, Dookie and Insomniac, including American Idiot

  • @griffix2841
    @griffix2841 Před 2 lety +4

    4 chords(to choke upon)
    Hah, Bullet for my valentine never dies - 4 words to choke upon LOOK AT ME NOW

  • @LotteYanson
    @LotteYanson Před 2 lety +8

    I’d love to see a Hate It or Love It episode for The Beatles someday. I notice that in recent years, at least in certain circles, it’s become more mainstream to hate on the Beatles so I think there’d be some interesting stuff to find there.

    • @takodabostwick8507
      @takodabostwick8507 Před 2 lety +1

      That would be very interesting! I wouldn't mind seeing an episode for The Beatle like that!

    • @nu-metalfan2654
      @nu-metalfan2654 Před 2 lety

      @Lotte Yanson. My issue with The Beatles is everyone seems to think they are the greatest band of all time, they are extremely iconic, but for me Led Zeppelin is the greatest band of all time, Zeppelin even made the greatest song of all time in Stairway To Heaven. And also imo I don’t think The Beatles really became a great band until they went hippie and started to experiment.
      People don’t like things being shoved down their throat and the media have a tendency to well over do it. That’s why people find certain bands overrated, because the media just shove some artists and bands down your throat until you’re numb.

    • @doctorrobert1339
      @doctorrobert1339 Před 2 lety

      @@nu-metalfan2654 It doesn't help that mainstream media doesn't really go into detail on *why* they're considered so great either, although this can apply to most of the great bands from the day, but it's mostly true for The Beatles. This comes from a massive Beatle fan too, just take a look at my channel lol.

  • @griffix2841
    @griffix2841 Před 2 lety +6

    The people who hate Green Day’s complex song structures are mathcore kids
    No hate towards mathcore/mathrock/tech death etc. those happen to be some of my favorite subgenres of rock and metal 😂

    • @takodabostwick8507
      @takodabostwick8507 Před 2 lety +1

      Dance Galvin Dance isn't for me personally! I would much rather listen to Dillinger Escape Plan, American Football, Tiny Moving Parts, Dads, Converge, and Drive Like Jehu. I'd also rather listen to Death, Suffocation, Between the Buried and Me and Gojira.

    • @griffix2841
      @griffix2841 Před 2 lety +2

      @@takodabostwick8507 ah, those bands are cool, my favorites are normajean, bring me the horizon, linkin park, Ice nine kills, killswitch engage etc.

  • @lasnico_7
    @lasnico_7 Před 2 lety +16

    I have been a massive Green Day fan since 2008 or so. They were an essentiel part during my teenage years. After a long break of not listening to them I have startet relistening to them recently and it's pure enjoynmen. I'll never get bored with or of Green Day.

  • @harizonflamingice3167
    @harizonflamingice3167 Před 2 lety +7

    I remember seeing some video who delved into whether or not Billie Joe Armstrong was actually a good guitarist. Can't say I remember whose video it was, unfortunately, but he went on to mention that Steve Vai himself cited Billie Joe Armstrong as a good guitarist, but if nothing else, I feel like Billie probably has more technical skills than he lets on but cares more about serving the song than showing off.

    • @arnelinsomniac
      @arnelinsomniac Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed! Solos on the Trilogy and their first two albums are the best!

    • @iliketrains3495
      @iliketrains3495 Před 2 lety +4

      Kind of like Rivers Cuomo then, apparently he deliberately kept his guitar parts simple during the Blue Album sessions for a poppier sound, but his producer overheard him shredding away

  • @danielbustamante7060
    @danielbustamante7060 Před 2 lety +3

    As a 13 yo teenager from Spain, I came across Green Day in a 2000's rock TV program. Clearly remember watching American idiot on TV for the first time and being absolutely blown away by what I was witnessing. They became my fav band for years on, but I've felt kind of let down lately with their recent material and can't help but feel I grew out of them. However, GD will ever be special for me.

  • @silh3345
    @silh3345 Před 2 lety +15

    They’ve always been one of my favorite bands and probably always will be. For the soon to be 21 years I’ve been alive I’ve always been exposed to their music in some way. I have so many good memories connected to their music from my dad playing songs from American idiot in the car on road trips to meet family when I was really young, to rediscovering my love for old nostalgic tracks and discovering parts of their discography I wasn’t previously familiar with back in 2018 when I really got into them while trying to explore and expand my music taste. I have a good list of Green Day songs that really mean a lot to me wether that is because of sentimental value or because they helped me through tough times. I’ll always be a fan.

  • @EnerJon90
    @EnerJon90 Před 2 lety +7

    How do ppl hate greenday but like mgk?

    • @philly_sports1558
      @philly_sports1558 Před 2 lety +5

      Cause they’re dumb.

    • @Stefan_Gerards
      @Stefan_Gerards Před 2 lety +3

      probably because they count MGK as *Emo* and *edgy* … yeah, sure, fake emo if you wanna call him that even..

    • @EnerJon90
      @EnerJon90 Před 2 lety

      The world has gone mad I tell ya..MAD!!!

    • @thetonytaye
      @thetonytaye Před 2 lety +1

      I don’t even really hate MGK that much (at least not his pop punk stuff) and I can’t help but wonder this too.

  • @wedge47
    @wedge47 Před rokem +1

    For those who feel that all of Green Day's songs sound the same, I present to you the following list:
    Rest - 39/Smooth
    Who wrote Holden Caulfield - Kerplunk
    Longview - Dookie
    86 - Insomniac
    Hitchin' a Ride - Nimrod
    Misery - Warning
    Are we the waiting - American Idiot
    Peacemaker - 21st Century Breakdown
    Kill the DJ - Uno!
    Wow! That's Loud - Dos!
    Dirty Rotten Bastards - Tre!
    Ordinary World - Revolution Radio
    Junkies on a High - Father of All
    I mean sure, you can make a case that Green Day does have a "regular" sound. But, that's only the case if you only listen to the mainstream stuff. This is a song off of each album, and the sounds could not be any different across this range. I think it shows how much they do branch out into other sounds other than their mainstream 4 power chord arrangements.
    And of course their music has changed. They've only been around 30+ years. And the inspiration for their music comes from their own life experiences, which has drastically changed since they were teenagers in northern California. I love that they experiment with different sounds. You can't be a successful band for this long and keep releasing the same album over and over again.

  • @AMoniqueOcampo
    @AMoniqueOcampo Před 2 lety +5

    Green Day will always have a special place in my heart, especially American Idiot, even if they were part of my TRL phase. I'll always respect them for being good at what they do.

  • @patrickstar6247
    @patrickstar6247 Před 2 lety +3

    He’s used many of the same chord progression several times with many songs but his way with vocal Melodies makes up for it for sure!

  • @xaulsanz4511
    @xaulsanz4511 Před 2 lety +4

    Green Day was just high school music

  • @gecko229
    @gecko229 Před 9 měsíci +3

    To be fair, we don't exactly go to Green Day for the biting social commentary. Billie Joe has his strengths and that isn't one of them. No problems with punk or punk-lite being political, the problem is that Green Day will lean on it too heavily at times to make up for what a song lacks elsewhere. American Idiot as an album is a musical masterpiece which overshadows the fact that its lyrical tone is pompous and overdone. Warning...not so much. Revolution Radio is kind of in between, but it's good enough to overcome the fact that lyrically they're always about four years behind the cause celebre to the point where it's just tiresome.

  • @noahcaplan7681
    @noahcaplan7681 Před 2 lety +1

    Green Day has been my favorite band for about a decade now since I was like 11 turning 12, now I’m 21 turning 22. I love them a lot. I used to exclusively listen to them, but even as my music has broadened, they’re still at the top. Every few weeks it’s like I’m discovering more by finding some more deep cuts that are so good. I think this 1972 project could be huge and all the lil snippets sound really good, I know it’s only been like 4 five second clips with music.

  • @joeneesikor9810
    @joeneesikor9810 Před 2 lety +2

    In 2020 I found Boulevard of Broken Dreams, its best single of all time, and felt like I found part of myself. I've already known that melody, but couldn't find it anywere, 'cos I didn't know the name. Anyway, it was a strange, but nice feeling to realize that I found it. Since this time Green Day became punk rock band number one for me...

  • @DefinitiveDubs
    @DefinitiveDubs Před rokem +1

    This video pretty much summed up my thoughts and defenses on Green Day's critics. I think what gets to me is the "fake punk" crap. The idea that being punk is antithetical to being successful is just ridiculous. The only reason that was ever associated with punk is because punk artists like Ramones never found a way to reach a wide audience, and that's not something they chose to do. If Joey had his way, Ramones would've not only been on MTV, it would've been a *brand.* Punk rock is anti-establishment, *not* anti-mainstream. There is a world of difference between those two concepts.

  • @skip_town
    @skip_town Před 2 lety +5

    They’re also my favorite band, but I understand why people don’t like them

    • @atomicpunk2360
      @atomicpunk2360 Před 2 lety +2

      Green Day is your favorite band and your profile pic is from the best Queens of the Stone Age? I see you’re well cultured 🤘🏻

  • @owencrawford2568
    @owencrawford2568 Před 2 lety +6

    I’m 24, and I’ve been a Green Day fan for nearly 20 years. I don’t care if people hate them; like you said Jon, although most of their songs are 4/5 power chords, it’s what they do with those chords that make Green Day shine. Not enough people appreciate their music/production. Especially in my two favourite Green Day albums: Nimrod and Revolution Radio
    Boulevard of Broken Dreams was the first song I ever learnt to play on guitar
    And I’m very optimistic about the upcoming ‘1972’

  • @lauraquigley1548
    @lauraquigley1548 Před 2 lety +1

    Doesn’t matter what people “think” of them. That has no consequence to their talent or fame.

  • @thetonytaye
    @thetonytaye Před 2 lety +7

    i called green day a punk band on twitter and a bunch of boomers got mad at me lmao. stay mad.

  • @dantemeza1
    @dantemeza1 Před 2 lety +7

    Avenged Sevenfold would be a good band to cover for this series

    • @beyondartv
      @beyondartv  Před 2 lety +4

      Yes I agree. If they drop this year it would be good to explore

    • @iliketrains3495
      @iliketrains3495 Před 2 lety +1

      1) Not "metal" enough
      2) Went downhill after Nightmare
      3) M Shadows' voice
      Those are three reasons I could possibly think of

    • @takodabostwick8507
      @takodabostwick8507 Před 2 lety

      @@iliketrains3495 pretty solid reasons!

  • @takodabostwick8507
    @takodabostwick8507 Před 2 lety +2

    1. Green Day
    2. Sum 41
    3. Yellowcard
    4. The Wonder Years
    5. All Time Low
    6. MxPx
    7. Neck Deep
    8. Blink 182
    9. PUP
    10. Fall Out Boy
    11. Good Charlotte
    12. Alkaline Trio
    13. Boston Manor
    14. Modern Baseball
    15. Saves the Day
    16. My Chemical Romance
    17. Joyce Manor
    18. Jawbreaker
    19. Taking Back Sunday
    20. Waterparks
    21. New Found Glory
    22. Spanish Love Songs
    23. A Day To Remember
    24. Motion City Soundtrack
    25. The Get Up Kids
    26. State Champs
    27. Jimmy Eat World
    28. Mixtapes
    29. The Starting Line
    30. Go Betty Go
    31. Bowling For Soup
    32. All American Rejects
    33. The Story So Far
    34. Falling In Reverse
    35. Mayday Parade
    36. Say Anything
    37. Chunk! No, Captain Chunk!
    38. Knuckle Puck
    39. Paramore
    40. Unwritten Law
    41. Reggie & the Full Effect
    42. Less Than Jake
    43. Man Overboard
    44. Moose Blood
    45. Transit
    46. Fenix TX
    47. Title Fight
    48. Four Years Strong
    49. Senses Fail
    50. Face to Face
    51. The Used
    52. Relient K
    53. Bayside
    54. Simple Plan
    55. Real Friends
    56. Brand New
    57. The Ataris
    58. Story of the Year
    59. Mest
    60. Amber Pacific
    61. You Had Me At Six
    62. Roam
    63. Hey Monday
    64. Allister
    65. Grayscale
    66. The Weird Kids
    67. Lit
    68. Homegrown
    69. Boys Like Girls
    70. No Use for a Name
    71. SR 71
    72. Sugarcult
    73. Midtown
    74. Gob
    75. Billy Talent
    76. Sleeping With Sirens
    77. Like Pacific
    78. Autopilot Off
    79. American Hi Fi
    80. Pierce the Veil
    81. Hit the Lights
    82. Seaway
    83. With Confidence
    84. As It Is
    85. Movements
    86. Dune Rats
    87. Swimmers
    88. Cayetana
    89. Lifetime
    90. The Click Five
    91. Tonight Alive
    92. Fireworks
    93. Wavves
    94. Something Corporate
    95. 5 Seconds of Summer
    96. Donots
    97. 1208
    98. J Church
    99. Goldfinger
    100. Cute Is What We Aim For

  • @TheBiGMeer
    @TheBiGMeer Před 2 lety +1

    The only criticism I’ve heard that’s fair is the 3/4 chords argument. It’s funny because at the same time those same people will say their best work is Kerplunk through Nimrod…The albums when those chords are spammed the most😂😂

  • @silh3345
    @silh3345 Před 2 lety +2

    I’d just finished watching another video right as this one was posted. Perfect timing

  • @laurisaarinen1126
    @laurisaarinen1126 Před 2 lety +1

    Even though Dookie might be the better album songwriting-wise and as a whole (no bad songs at all) Insomniac is still my personal favorite from them since it's so heavy and in-your-face. Of course it affects my opinion that i'm more of a skate punk/hc punk fan than a pop punk fan.
    Songs like Geek Stink Breath, Bab's Uvula Who? and Walking Contradiction are simple kick-assery. Although my favorite Green Day song is actually found on Dookie, it's Longview.
    But i do respect the later stuff too, American Idiot is understandably considered a masterpiece, even if it's not exactly my style. I do have lot of nostalgia for it also, because it was the first GD album i bought and among my first 5 albums overall. The other four were Californication, One by One (by the Foo's), Meteora and randomly enough, Load by Metallica.

  • @roxytocin_216
    @roxytocin_216 Před 2 lety +2

    Green Day are also my favorite band. Saw them play SLC in 2017 and it was definitely the best, most fun and energetic show I've ever seen.

  • @ondrejpilc3263
    @ondrejpilc3263 Před 2 lety +4

    Green day is like bread with salami for me, I don't love it, but I don't hate it, but I absolutely respect their past and influence for the whole music world. By the way, my favorite band is Starset, and BMI will dominate us all ...

  • @Silenc3WillFall
    @Silenc3WillFall Před 2 lety +11

    This guy really goes in depth from an unbiased POV and I can respect that. At first glance I expected nothing but B.S. from this video but as it turns out this man did an excellent job and covering all the controversy in between the dotted lines, as well as pertaining to the focus and highlights we were all truly curious about. Over all this video does exactly as the title intended, it explains why people dislike the populist punk rock band that is Greenday. Love this band with all my heart and can say I can appreciate all the stigma surrounding this band that was brought up and explained in this video. Thumbs up brother! Keep up the good work

  • @spyroapplesauce
    @spyroapplesauce Před 2 lety +1

    The only thing I dislike is the one interview where Billie Joe bashes nu metal by saying he didn’t like it because he didn’t understand it, and he had no intentions of understanding it. Just sounds stupid coming from a huge name of a music genre that a lot of people say the exact same things about. But that’s not a reflection of the band’s music and more of BJ; Green Day rocks and deserves all the love they get

  • @lorenzocamins9223
    @lorenzocamins9223 Před 2 lety +7

    I really like the bullet for my valentine reference lol

    • @beyondartv
      @beyondartv  Před 2 lety +3

      Hahaha was wondering if anyone would catch that

  • @gamingvampire1604
    @gamingvampire1604 Před 2 lety +7

    Green Day will forever be one of the most important band for me. My first concert and the band that got me into rock.

  • @AlligatorArms
    @AlligatorArms Před 2 lety

    I’ll never forget seeing them perform “Bang Bang” at the AMA’s (or some similar award show, can’t remember which) and upon its upload to social media, it was bombarded with literally tens of thousands of comments by the angry internet mob, with nearly all of them acting like they used to like Green Day (okay, sure!). It was terrifying to see. But at the same time, it also meant that there will probably never be another American Idiot. I mean, other bands may try…maybe even Green Day will try, but it’s probably not possible that it would have the immediate sweeping cultural impact that AI had without being sterilized by the checks & balances system of our current media environment. And if that must be the case, then it was a great way to close the book, as AI was such a fucking fantastic record.

  • @daoust26
    @daoust26 Před 9 měsíci +1

    They started out as a catchy pop punk band but then their real intentions came out. If people listened to Johnny rotten, everyone would've seen through them.

  • @Pazuzu82
    @Pazuzu82 Před 2 lety +3

    Green Day are brilliant, don't care what anyone says, there my favorite aswel. The only albums that I wasn't keen on is dos and father of all, all the other rest I'm fine with.

  • @aleksandaratanasovic8835
    @aleksandaratanasovic8835 Před 2 lety +1

    I don't like Green Day, but most of the stuff people are hating them for, many punk bands did. I mean, they are far from the first punk band to sign to the major label and I don't see no one dissing on Husker Du (and I love that band) that signed major far before Green Day.

  • @lenegelbe-hauen9009
    @lenegelbe-hauen9009 Před 2 lety +4

    They were the band that got me into punk rock/pop punk and I still love the old stuff but their recent stuff blows. I liked Revolution Radio though

    • @devilsoffspring5519
      @devilsoffspring5519 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Rev Radio has Forever Now on it, which I happen to think is a stellar moment from Green Day's entire career.

  • @Jsa460
    @Jsa460 Před 2 lety

    I actually kind of think they're one of the few artists that have managed to update themselves to stay relevant for decades, without losing what made them popular in the first place. How many bands (not solo artists) can continue to stay popular for that sort of length of time continuing to bring out new music? (They're around, but far more drop out of the new music charts within a decade at most.) With a lot of Green Day songs, even if I haven't heard it before, I can usually pick it's them from the song structure, so I get why people might use it as crit, but for a lot of people that's likely why they still love them. They do actually have variation in their music making everything from punk to rock ballads. Like Last night on earth, or Time of your life has quite a different overall sound to something like Welcome to Paradise or American Idiot. (I've heard my parents humming away to Wake me when September ends, but no way they'd listen to Minority.) You can tell they're all Green Day songs, but the way they change up the songs makes it different enough to stay interesting. They've managed to keep a lot of energy in their music. I don't love all of their music (esp Father of All...) but I like a lot of it spanning a long time which is unusual for me. Definitely one of my favourite bands.

  • @e-heromanny4348
    @e-heromanny4348 Před 2 lety +2

    I swear straight up Punk has to be one of the most gatekeeping, snake eating it’s own tail genre out there. God forbid a band wants to aspire for than what their small label can do for them.
    In general a lot what probably goes through these “fan’s” minds is that they want their indie band to go nowhere and drown in obscurity so that they can inflate their own ego that they were one of the intellectuals few who knew of them or “got it”.
    “ I’m not like other listeners”

  • @SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14
    @SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14 Před 2 lety +1

    I will forever love green day, they got me into music and inspired me to start playing music myself, but ngl I don't like much they've done since 21CB

  • @punkskaterpizza
    @punkskaterpizza Před 2 lety +3

    Green Day is the reason I picked up guitar

  • @petercushion9780
    @petercushion9780 Před 2 lety +3

    I don't hate them. I like a few songs.....but they will always be rock music for 12 year olds to me.

  • @Okshake
    @Okshake Před 2 lety +1

    Idc what anyone says I love pop punk bands like Green Day, Blink 182, Sum 41 etc because the music does sound fun and poppy but the lyrics are usually self deprication and humorous.

  • @MedalionDS9
    @MedalionDS9 Před 2 lety +2

    Green Day accused for being too political and also not punk is a weird somewhat contradiction. Punk bands are often not seen as being serious unless they are pretty political instead of just making catchy loser songs about being high and horny in the sun.

    • @briankaslewicz6130
      @briankaslewicz6130 Před 2 lety

      It's a double edged sword really. I do want to see Billie Joe as a musician mature with his work, but at the same time it's hard to take a guy primarily known in the 90s for singing about jacking off & smoking weed seriously like he's got a phD in political science. It's like consulting Jim Morrison on the Cuban Missile Crisis.

    • @briankaslewicz6130
      @briankaslewicz6130 Před 2 lety

      Another thing is teenage punk has a very anti-parent mindset, but with politically charged songs, they can easily fall into the "think what I think about [x] topic or you're a bad person" camp, and then they're no better than the parents they're against that wag their fingers and go "tsk tsk"

  • @RanterInShades
    @RanterInShades Před 2 lety +4

    The iHeartRadio meltdown might be funny, but I’ve always seen that as proof that Green Day never truly abandoned their punk roots.

  • @josephkrebaum7502
    @josephkrebaum7502 Před 2 lety +1

    Green Day was one of the first bands I was exposed to when I was little, and I even have an American Idiot T-shirt that I wear a lot! Which is funny because I'm mostly an outsider when it comes to punk and pop punk, with Green Day, Rise Against, and Paramore being the only exceptions (pun intended) for me.

  • @jasonirwin2947
    @jasonirwin2947 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm heading to see them in Dublin in June it's going to be my first concert. Can't wait 🤘🎸

  • @therobotdevil2284
    @therobotdevil2284 Před 2 lety +6

    Fair criticism aside, these guys can still outperform most of the bands I've seen live. When I saw them last summer, I had compromised expectations because of their recent output's quality, the stage they're at in their career, and other considerations, but they absolutely blew me away. The energy was out of this world.

  • @Amber_xo_133
    @Amber_xo_133 Před 2 lety +1

    I love Green Day idc What the haters say

  • @M8WhoSk8s
    @M8WhoSk8s Před 6 měsíci

    They still can come back with a good album like this year with saviors too even though father of all to me was something that green day just wasn't as good at doing as a lot of other bands and I'm not really into indie rock of that kind anyways too much. Saviors is the definition of what they are good at, especially in the american dream is killing me and I'm glad they are going more towards their core punk sound that they've had their highest points of their career with

  • @ever2440
    @ever2440 Před 2 lety +6

    Great vid Jon. I can't thank Green Day enough , without them I wouldn't have made it this far in life. Their songs got me through some tough times. Even though Father Of All was different , I still hope the band will be back with with a better album soon

  • @SilkandScrooge
    @SilkandScrooge Před 2 lety +3

    I think it's just closed minded metal heads. Either it's gotta be so heavy or they don't like it. Or they are that bitter metalhead who loved hair metal and are mad at everything 90s for ending their played out genre.

  • @kingatheist7231
    @kingatheist7231 Před 2 lety +1

    Being punk rock isn't playing big shows... it is if you're good. I'm not a huge fan or anything but this whole hating on bands for being mainstream is petty at best. Being anti mainstream doesn't make you punk. It makes you jealous. To the elitists that always say they hate them for this reason, I dare you to do better. Hey, it's just power chords right? Give it a whirl.

  • @theprettyoftheodd7997
    @theprettyoftheodd7997 Před 2 lety +1

    They were a blast to see at the Hella Mega Tour this summer!!!

  • @issahumps
    @issahumps Před 2 lety +2

    Got bored and moved on after the 90s Discovered bands like nofx, black flag, and subhumans type stuff and thought greenday were posers 😂. Teenage me wasn’t very kind. Now that I’m older I go back to albums I missed out on and can respect what they were doing in the 2000s. I feel Green Day is one of those bands where they will play what they want to play and you can either follow or move on. It’s always felt for every fan that moves on they just gain a new younger fan.

  • @marginalhero4783
    @marginalhero4783 Před 2 lety +2

    I came to this video because I wanted to understand how anyone could hate Greenday. They are just so easy to like and are so fun to see live.
    The Gilman Street thing, only a bunch of gatekeeping idiots would hate them for that. I know some punks want to keep it all to themselves, hoard the music and the culture to keep it pure. Friggin cult nonsense. Greenday did great things for punk. If something is awesome, get it out there and share it.
    I don't have an issue with their politics. I guess some might, for sure. I probably wouldn't stick around listening to a band if they had lyrics about worshipping their Lord Trump. If a song is well written though, it's got to be pretty extremely far right lyrics before I'd stop listening to them.
    The simple 4 chords criticism I think just means you might not like punk rock in general. Part of what the early punks intended with their music was to simplify rock as it was becoming too prog and complicated. Punk was meant to be played by and for anyone. It didn't require musical expertise. It was about if you had something to say, you say it and you make some noise. That's punk. Aside from the 4 chord criticism being a strawman argument against Greenday anyway, if you don't like the simplicity then you probably don't like punk in general.
    As far as Greenday going downhill, They have always had hit and miss releases. I love Greenday but the only albums I listen to cover to cover are Dookie, Warning and American Idiot. There's great songs on all their albums (yes, there's even a few gems on Uno, Dos Tres) but they have always had this up and down quality to their releases. I would bet that people who think this way, are probably the same people who say things like Pearl's Jams only good album was Ten, Metallica's only good album was Black, Linkin Park's only good album Hybrid Theory... and so on.
    To me, Greenday is surprisingly fun music that is also thoughtful and well crafted in it's simplicity. Go see them live if you ever get the chance and they will blow you away! I've seen a lot of shows and they are for sure among the best performers. I don't think I can think of anyone I've seen who can engage the crowd as well as Billy Joe can.

  • @Psigotica
    @Psigotica Před 2 lety +2

    Still my fav band, even tho I dislike some albums

  • @thegoatriderfromthesands2646

    I never thought about them playing four chords. Each song has a different aspect, some are bass driven like When I Come Around. Some use mids like American Idiot. Holiday frickin' sounds like Star Wars! 21 Guns is it's own animal! Boulevard of Broken Dreams also feels original (albeit a genric chord and rhythm every punk plays!

  • @takodabostwick8507
    @takodabostwick8507 Před 2 lety +1

    1. The Beatles
    2. Green Day
    3. The Who
    4. Iron Maiden
    5. The Jam
    6. CCR
    7. Sum 41
    8. Metallica
    9. Motorhead
    10. The Cure
    11. Judas Priest
    12. The Kinks
    13. Dokken
    14. The Yardbirds
    15. Linkin Park
    16. Van Halen
    17. Bad Religion
    18. Black Sabbath
    19. Descendents
    20. Jimi Hendrix Experience
    21. Yellowcard
    22. Megadeth
    23. Led Zeppelin
    24. Lynyrd Skynyrd
    25. Avenged Sevenfold
    26. The Moody Blues
    27. The Rolling Stones
    28. Queens of the Stone Age
    29. Pink Floyd
    30. Aerosmith
    31. Bauhaus
    32. Misfits
    33. Saxon
    34. Sepultura
    35. Soundgarden
    36. ACDC
    37. Death
    38. Stone Temple Pilots
    39. Opeth
    40. Queen
    41. Slayer
    42. Kiss
    43. Joy Division
    44. The Cars
    45. Motley Crue
    46. Trivium
    47. Dave Clark Five
    48. RHCP
    49. Sodom
    50. Eagles
    51. Stray Cats
    52. The Stooges
    53. Lacuna Coil
    54. Ramones
    55. Flammin’ Groovies
    56. Genesis
    57. The Animals
    58. Def Leppard
    59. Ratt
    60. The White Stripes
    61. Nirvana
    62. Molly Hatchet
    63. Cream
    64. Mercyful Fate
    65. Slipknot
    66. The Donnas
    67. System of a Down
    68. As I Lay Dying
    69. Halestorm
    70. Blackfoot
    71. Pixies
    72. The Clash
    73. The Byrds
    74. Black Veil Brides
    75. The Wonder Years
    76. NOFX
    77. Foo Fighters
    78. Cheap Trick
    79. Rancid
    80. Rage Against the Machine
    81. Weezer
    82. Scorpions
    83. The Runaways
    84. The Offspring
    85. U2
    86. MxPx
    87. Rise Against
    88. Three Days Grace
    89. All Time Low
    90. Rush
    91. Jonas Brothers
    92. Cannibal Corpse
    93. Queensryche
    94. The Police
    95. The Dillenger Escape Plan
    96. The Pretenders
    97. Artic Monkeys
    98. My Chemical Romance
    99. The Pretty Reckless
    100. Fall Out Boy
    Green Day's definitely one of my all time favorite bands!

  • @gigiizzy5651
    @gigiizzy5651 Před 2 lety +2

    I like a few songs by them but there's 2 reasons I dislike them as a band:
    1.While I don't have an issue with their political songs, what I do have an issue with is the Billie Joe lashing out on fans who politely statedthere's people with different political opinions who enjoy their music. Cussing out your fans and telling them to stop listening to your music definitely won't convince them that your message is right, it just makes you a doucebag.
    2. They are just too inconsistent with their style. I like their pop-punk and emo stuff bit they are fso ar in-between their dumb pop songs like Kill the DJ and long pretentious operas like Jesus of suburbia.

  • @brycesonflowers8758
    @brycesonflowers8758 Před 2 lety +1

    Haven't you mentioned those same reasons before in an old video?

  • @maximeguitard382
    @maximeguitard382 Před 3 měsíci

    I think the songs that have little complexity with chords have an interesting arrangment to make up for it.

  • @volodymyrzablotsky5372
    @volodymyrzablotsky5372 Před rokem +1

    Too wimpy for me. When ever I hear, do you have the time to listen to me whine, I say no and immediately change the radio channel.

  • @jennylee1510
    @jennylee1510 Před 2 lety +1

    I ❤️ Green Day since I was 12! I’m 23 now but will be turning 24 in May. I am still a big fan of them in my adulthood! Honestly I never get tired of their music! Even though I don’t fully believe some of the political messages in their songs, it’s still my all time favourite Rock Band! 🥁🎸🎶🎵

  • @carlosferrazbr
    @carlosferrazbr Před 2 lety +1

    Punk Rock and political views walk together, sure that are songs in this genre that are not political, but the band always will have songs that are. Sum 41 for example, they have songs that are silly, that talk about anything and also songs that are political. This is punk rock.

  • @shywitchanimations5235
    @shywitchanimations5235 Před 2 lety +1

    I would probably listen to Green Day more if they weren't so repetitive. I'm also not a huge pop punk fan.

  • @Actually_A_Biscuit
    @Actually_A_Biscuit Před 2 lety +2

    Alternate title: 5 reasons why people are WRONG!

  • @vishnuinampudi1825
    @vishnuinampudi1825 Před 2 lety +1

    tbh idc at all
    i love their songs
    i love them as a band
    simple as that
    don't care if shit is simple
    mfs be jealous that is all

  • @lukewise3244
    @lukewise3244 Před 2 lety

    The issue with Green Day taking their predominantly liberal stance is that the media is liberal, 6 of the last 10 years have been under liberal Presidents, and the list goes on. Meaning, how is it punk to go along with what the establishment is?

  • @punk_idiot3523
    @punk_idiot3523 Před 2 lety +1

    Green day doesn't deserve hate

  • @nam-ra468
    @nam-ra468 Před 2 lety +1

    Como alguien puede odiar a la mejor banda del mundo?

  • @disneyscott98
    @disneyscott98 Před 2 lety

    Always been a favorite band of mine. I didn't mind Father Of All, and they keep teasing a new album and I'm always excited for new Green Day!

  • @andreveach7520
    @andreveach7520 Před 6 měsíci

    Like all their peers in the (joke) Rock & Roll Hall of Fame; EXCELLENT bands develop, change & mature their sound throughout their career; be a 'fan' or don't

  • @tomsklanka9436
    @tomsklanka9436 Před 2 lety

    I’ve always respected and enjoyed their music, they have always had soft, not heavy songs, since the beginning, they left the scene cause they got to big, they needed money to get different places and more equipment, they are the coolest guys ever, met them a few times and they were always super cool and just acted like themselves, I like what they have evolved into, and am so proud of them getting inducted into the HOF

  • @MediaLoverChris02
    @MediaLoverChris02 Před 2 lety +13

    The greatest band of all time will never be hated by any SANE mind.

  • @thecursedmermaid
    @thecursedmermaid Před 2 lety

    I've been obsessed with Green Day since American Idiot came out. I was like 13. Somehow I didn't know about them before...I'm from a real small town. And I've always been made fun of for liking them. It's so sad. Let people like their fav bands in peace.

  • @MedalionDS9
    @MedalionDS9 Před 2 lety +1

    I've been hearing the reasons since the 90's... should be a familiar list

  • @blackleg3964
    @blackleg3964 Před 2 lety +6

    I love green day..... I don't care if the whole F'kin world hates them, I'll still listen to them.

  • @stereosanctity7
    @stereosanctity7 Před 2 lety

    Green Day did not headline at Woodstock 94…they played on a whim…

  • @MrSheed92
    @MrSheed92 Před 2 lety

    4:03 kind of similar to how people are trashing Star Wars right now because of the politics yet forgetting about George Lucas’ political views and how they seeped into the prequels and the original trilogy.

  • @RJIS
    @RJIS Před 2 lety +1

    The Uno Dos Tre trilogy is great come for me and attack me plsssss

  • @autumnd4073
    @autumnd4073 Před 2 lety

    Personally, I love father of all...
    it's the album that got me into green day more and now i listen to all of their stuff
    it kinda makes me mad when people hate on that album.

  • @Zer0Fox_gibbon
    @Zer0Fox_gibbon Před 2 lety

    The thing I find with active Green day haters is that they'll make a big deal out of hating them then project that on to you when it comes to light you're a fan and put the spin that it's you making a big deal out of their hate Like me personally, I'm a huge Green Day fan, they're my favourite band. I'm 27 and have been/ they have been since I was like 9 or 10 and just like with everything I love or hate, if you also love then great we can talk about said thing til the cows come home and then leave again. If you don't then fine. In the case of Green Day these same kind of people project like that simply because you defend them and I only defend them because the criticisms they make, rather than just going 'they're just not for me' which I would respect, they always go cloak and dagger with the kinds of criticisms you bring up here which are easy to put down.

  • @wriglarzzz
    @wriglarzzz Před 2 lety

    Fact is they don't use the same four chords every song. They have gone off scales such as boulevard ending, prosthetic head, and expecially the newer stuff which complicated riffs and intros and chromatic passing tones. Maybe the earlier stuff, but not even because no one knows completely broke that rule..

  • @megmcguigan3857
    @megmcguigan3857 Před 2 lety +1

    I used to go to Gilman St. in Berkeley at the same time that they used to play there. The two years I went, 90-91, they were total assholes and I don't remember them hanging out before or after shows. They would always open for the bands that I wanted to see there so I had to suffer through them a few times. They were way more pop than punk. The music they played sounded safe and boring. I like my punk music to feel a bit urgent.

  • @waterwolfyxx727
    @waterwolfyxx727 Před 2 lety

    The fact that my favorite bands have members about 40-50 years of old is insane

  • @huangrenjunsvoicecrack5739

    as a 15 y/o that was born in gen z and started to listen to green day last month, i realized that i won't be a fan of them and i don't like them it's like im just a teenager who got into punk rock and that's it i just like to listen to something unusual that gen z teens won't dare to listen to lol billie is just a different human being with deep perspectives that too hard to decipher and i think he puts it on music

  • @takodabostwick8507
    @takodabostwick8507 Před 2 lety

    1. The Jam
    2. Green Day
    3. Bad Religion
    4. Descendents
    5. Sum 41
    6. Misfits
    7. The Stooges
    8. Ramones
    9. Stiff Little Fingers
    10. The Clash
    11. Joy Division
    12. The Runaways
    13. The Damned
    14. NOFX
    15. Adolescents
    16. The Donnas
    17. Rancid
    18. The Offspring
    19. The Exploited
    20. MxPx
    21. Rise Against
    22. Buzzcocks
    23. Sleater Kinney
    24. Social Distortion
    25. The Stranglers
    26. Pup
    27. The Spitfires
    28. AFI
    29. Minutemen
    30. Alkaline Trio
    31. Bad Brains
    32. Generation X
    33. The Addicts
    34. Death
    35. Fear
    36. Sham 69
    37. Anti Flag
    38. Bikini Kill
    39. Sex Pistols
    40. Rites of Spring
    41. All
    42. Screeching Weasel
    43. Against Me!
    44. Joyce Manor
    45. L7
    46. The Adverts
    47. The Subhumans
    48. X Ray Apex
    49. Guttermouth
    50. Trash Boat
    51. The Vibrators
    52. The Queers
    53. Fugazi
    54. Suicidal Tendencies
    55. Turnstile
    56. The Vandals
    57. Pennywise
    58. Embrace
    59. Bouncing Souls
    60. Minor Threat
    61. Dropkick Murphys
    62. Jawbreaker
    63. New York Dolls
    64. 7 Year Bitch
    65. Agent Orange
    66. Refused
    67. The Germs
    68. Operation Ivy
    69. X
    70. Television
    71. Crass
    72. Discharge
    73. Flogging Molly
    74. GBH
    75. DRI
    76. The Living End
    77. Dead Boys
    78. Wire
    79. MC 5
    80. Ash
    81. Millencolin
    82. Blondie
    83. Dag Nasty
    84. Anti Nowhere League
    85. 999
    86. Dead Kennedys
    87. The F Ups
    88. The Cramps
    89. The Spits
    90. Regan Youth
    91. Idles
    92. No Motiv
    93. The Saints
    94. Less Than Jake
    95. Reel Big Fish
    96. The Muffs
    97. Black Flag
    98. Propagndhi
    99. The Specials
    100. The Dirty Nil