Nightwish High Hopes React/Discussion with Mama!
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- čas přidán 24. 02. 2020
- And today we react to High Hopes! Such an amazing cover done by Nightwish! Thank you all for your suggestions! we will be doing another band next week!
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To try to imitate Pink Floyd would be absurd ...Nightwish made it their own ...a great tribute to a legendary band ..
Jukka suffered from chronic insommnia. It eventually forced him to retire in 2014. He's a fabulous drummer really, great showman. Also, it's important you know that they only played this once(maybe a couple more, not sure really). They fired their lead singer(she's not on stage at for this song) a couple hours after the show, so I think they were all in a very emotional state. I keep adding to this. Jukka always had a click track running, he is the time, and he had to be spot on.
This was at the last concert with Tarja Turunen, she was about to get "The Open Letter" I think you get the significance of THIS song played at that concert now 👀👀👀
This was also the last gig on the Once tour.
@@simmysims9209 It is not :D There are two recordings, you can recognize it looking at the solos, there are different :)
I've seen Jukka do that at other concerts, it's just what he does when he isn't needed. He hits the drums harder than most so he's probably just having a breather. I can't see it being connected to the insomnia that caused him to leave the band.
yes and no. Jukka was indeed feeling very ill that night....the night of the last show with Tarja.
What Jukka is doing is part of his act, going into idle mode, hibernates till he needs to awaken to play. He does this on many songs. In many venues it is not an indication of illness.
nope, Jukka was indeed very ill that night. It was also the last concert they gave with Tarja. After this show they fired her.
@@monicacarolina6480 he was not ill, stop the misinfo spreading.
@@TerranigmaQuintet he has said himselt.
i,m a big pink floyd fan but i find the pink floyd version a cover of the nightwih version
My Boss is too, but I am the odd Nightwishfan at my place of work
Be clad Nightwish didn't cover Pink Floyd's whole discography.
Absolutely Stella analysis again guys, you both have a great musical understanding but also a great feel for the human dynamic within a band - great stuff, there's not many reactions I'd watch for 30+ mins 🤘
Love your reaction on this one as well!
Don't underestimate your influence.
You make it possible for more Americans to get introduced to Nightwish, paving the way for Nightwish to play bigger stadiums next time.
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Vow...it gives me such a pleasure listening to you two Nightwish experts! Your dialogue is so spot on. Thank you, keep up the good work. Greetings from Nightwish land.
Jukka is doing his best performance, but you think he's sick... poor Jukka.
I love Jukka !!! and now with Kai he has found a good friend and replacement
he is OK now
@@Marco-Conner Kai and Jukka have been friends for over 30 years, Kai was Jukka's drum tech durning the recordings of Dark Passion play and Imaginarium
Jukka had a migraine, and I think that open letter they had waiting for Tarja at the end of this show could have brought it on. This was the boys saying we got this.
ehm, Jukka was indeed feeling sich that night, besides it was also Tarja's last show (she did not know yet) Poor JUkka...yes, because he was sick
"What do you guys think?" .. I think that is the best review of the song ever .. damn good job!
I have always found the little head gestures and flourishes you see Tuomas do as his "Amadeus" moments where he is feeling a poignant moment and giving inflection and feeling of how deep he is engrossed in the nuance of the lyrics, and mood of the song.
I've always thought Tuomos' tip of his head to the side was along with "other side" lyric.
They are all feeling something, because after the concert, they presented their Siger, Tarja with the letter that fired her.
That is why they seem like they feel bad
yup AND Jukka was indeed feeling sick. Watch the interview
Nice review! Another thing that should be taken into consideration with the band's energy through the whole End of a Era concert. Is that they all knew that they were going to be giving Tarja her walking papers as soon as this concert is over. Even though it had gotten to the point that they (the guys in the band) all agreed that it was something that they needed to do. It doesn't mean it was a easy thing for them to do. An I'm sure they all had mixed feelings concerning the uncertain future that would leave for the band. So it is likely that Jukka had a bit of a upset stomach due to all the stress.
Emppu does not get enough credit. The guy is really good, and I'm hoping this new album will showcase that more. And Kai as well.
What I love is that they don't just copy Pink Floyd but make their own version, you can't just copy a masterpiece you can make your own version as a tribute, which I really love and thats how I think you have to a cover song.
I think you guys really did a great job in the reaction and analyzing (as usual), you guys are a great combo in reaction the way ping pong back and forth and finding different details is a pleasure to watch.
Minnesota Nightwish Army reporting - first time watching one of your reaction videos. I must confess I was thinking "what are these two going to be able to say that I haven't heard a million times?" but I'm pleased to say your review was very good. You even commented on the Pink Floyd disk hanging in the background. It's surprising how many 'avid' Pink Floyd fans who react to this video that don't seem to even notice it! Anyway, you both seem to be very knowledgeable and picked up on so many of the little things that make this performance so awesome. I'll subscribe to your channel to see more of your work.
Nobody reads this anymore, but this is a great and very honouring cover. Thank you and greetings from Finland!
You are spot on about Jukka. From information i have he was suffering a nasty migraine and that nod to emmpu was a "check on Jukka can you Emp" Floyd fan all my life Nightwish fan for a few years now. This version of High Hopes is stunning.
Pink Floyd is my favorite band of all time but I love the Nightwish version so much more
5:55 Yes, he CAN get a vibrato out of the keyboard by moving his finger like that with the key held down. It's called "Aftertouch sensitivity", many higher-end keyboards, synths, and workstations feature it.
You and your mommy giving a world class rock band advise...rich!
Keep in mind that the point of doing a cover isn't to mimick or copy or do the cover exactly like the original, it's to do your rendition of the original putting your spin or "flavor" into it, to make it sound like your song. If this rendition sounded identical to the original I wouldn't be as interested in listening to it. If I wanted to hear the original I'd pull out some old Floyd albums and listen to it. This is an outstanding cover by Nightwish... P.s. I'm an old rock n roller (65) ..been in a couple bands and started listening to rock when my older brother brought home a 45rpm record of Buddy Holly called That'll be the Day back in 59. Anyway, great reaction and PEACE!
Very well done. You were the first who recognized jukka pain and tuomas head movement for emppu. I saw many reactions. Thanks.
I'm a follower of Floyd since the sixties and think Nightwish's version is better
Griff Jones 100% agree
I had so high hopes for this reaction, and I wasn't disappointed. If I remember correctly, this song is #3 on Tuomas' list of favorite songs, which is probably why they did this tribute to Pink Floyd.
P.S. Jukka was probably suffering from migraine, which he stiil does..
Did you know that Marko was actually sick? From Marcelo's interview: He (Marko) was the last band member that I spoke with in person. After the concert at Hartwall in the backstage area, I was joking with him that he survived the show. He was very sick on that day.
@@GnomeDresta No, I didn't know that. Two of the four band members sick & yet they manage to pull off this amazing cover. That's talent & grit.
@@tarmotyyri6733 I read that Jukka had headache or more even migraine, to perform with that like that is amazing and how they got through the whole concert...
@@Piia2023 True, Jukka is a real metal warrior.
I just can't help it. I get goosepumps every single time, when I hear this masterpiece.
FYI about Jukka. It also maybe that he felt sad because after this concert they said goodbye to Tarja.
and HE WAS FEELING VERY ILL that night.
Tuomas moving his finger with the vibrato might also be partially about ergonomics. Triggering aftertouch like that feels a lot more natural than just squeezing the the key down.
I wondered about Tuomas hands on the keyboard.
You caught Tuomas signalling to possibly Emppu, well spotted.
Tuomas can't move...
Emppu going over to check on Jukka the drummer (who was suffering).
That is just conjecture on my part, but he looks stressed, not his normal self,
wonder if he was already suffering from chronic insomnia?
Which was the reason he stopped playing, his friend Kai taking over.
Later, you can see Emppu jumping down from the drumkit, whilst still playing.
Extra special emotionally, as Tarja was backstage,
not knowing what was to come, that look from Tuomas to Marco.
They were all keyed up with angst.
Mama: "To Hell with you!" Ouch, you got it.
Ragefull, yep.
Mama noticed the background circle of lights, Pink Floyd style.
I heard that David Gilmore had a link on his Facebook for a while.
Aren't they just awesome?
Oh, you got a lot of tickets!
Everyone is not feeling their best because right after this show they fired Tarja.
Plus he was battling insomnia at this time I believe
@@paullawrence3238 NO, the insomnia came many years later.
There was a Reason to fire Tarja: her greedness.
Very nice reaction & analyze! This cover is true tribute to Pink Floyd. However, you partially missed the health remarks on Jukka. It's his unique style, the crouching, the keeping his hand(s) on his bandana etc. Naturally, it is possible he had somesorta migraine also here. BUT, he has suffered from variety levels of insomnia for years. It got so bad he had to leave the active duties as a drummer in the band around 2014 (he's now feeling much better and continuing managing the financial side of NW). Another interesting health tidbit: Did you know bassist Marco had a failed polyp surgery on his vocal cord in the 90's? Yep, he got his vocal cords permanently injured in surgery, losing all of his clean falsetto range. Yet, we all can hear how Marco sings, still, over 20 yrs later after the fact. Miracle masterclass at work.
Cheers and keep on doing these!
I've heard that Tarja didn't feel well at this concert but not Jukka. Don't know how far back his illness goes, but he is usually quite intense behind the drums.
@@Piia2023 Oh, Tarja's possible compromized condition here I didnt know.
And now that I did some checking, all my recalls from Jukka holding his hand(s) on his bandana/head comes from this concert. I've seen him tweaking his bandana etc many times but not holding his head as much as he has done in this 2005 concert. Hmm, maybe @Deathveil nurse mom was onto something after all, maybe Jukka did have some heavier headache/migraine here. Dunno.
"Crouching" and "low profile hovering" behind his kit however, is definitely one of his mannerisms, example like seen here in his last performance with the band in 2016: czcams.com/video/MpZUDwbLBiU/video.html or the famous Wacken 2013 "Ghost Love Score" when he comes back from a break, sits down and soon after seen in steady crouching position: czcams.com/video/JYjIlHWBAVo/video.html.
PS. Peukut Piialle, olen lukenut sun asiallisia ajatuksia aiemminkin näissä reaktiovideoiden kommenteissa. Pidetään liekkiä yllä jatkossakin. ^^
@@Corca kiitos...joo pidetään...tämähän on hauska harrastus... :)
You can see Emppu jumping down from Jukkas drumstand so maybe he was checking on Jukka...don't know...!
Tarja was recovering from the flu and Marko was sick that day. I think Jukka was ok.
Nightwish was supposed to do bigger venues on the US tour, but one of their opening band cancelled their tour with Nightwish so they didn't take chances on bigger venues, and that is why they only have those few shows in US. I really would like you to check out Creek Mary's Blood (8 min video).
Really like your reactions.
At 9:15 you can see Emppu pose up on the monitor. It looked to me like Tuomas was nodding in a way to say "come on man, this isn't the song to be showy, it ruins the mood".
Ow Marco.... His voice is great.
I so agree with you guys about the ignorance of america as it pertains to metal appreciation...I've only dreamed of someday seeing nightwish in a large venue ...I've seen them twice in small venues ( denver and salt lake city), I with you I agree they create a more intimate experience...and they were awsome in both places...but that waken 2013 concert...oh my shit...I would have traded all my concert experiences for that single night...plus that weekend? Damn
Jukka (YEW-KAH) was suffering from severe insomnia due to the strenuous world tours the band has been performing. He has since left the band after Wacken 2013 to focus on his health and manage the bands merchandise. He officially announced that his friend Kai Hahto (Wintersun) will take his place on the drums. I've met them all, such nice and humble people.
Ok now for your reaction - I usually dislike when people pause for long stretches and talk about how hot Floor is or some weird shit, but you actually pause and give true detailed insight into things no one else does. I appreciate this and hope you continue to do more NW videos :)
If you want more covers you should watch Phantom of the Opera from this same concert. It is legendary!
For the head movement, it is pure speculation, do not take our word as gospel, its all a theory when it comes to that, as a performing musician myself some musicians might have a slight twitch of nerves but that does look like he is signalling someone, might be the cameraman, might be a signal to someone on the side of the stage or to his other bandmates, nobody knows except for the band and himself especially. It is just an analysis and theorizing, we aren't flat out saying "this happened" because we do not know ourselves. yes that is the last show before they let Tarja go and at the time of us filming this we did not know that so thank you all for that information! -Deathveil
a year later, and this exact speculation has basically taken hodl and peopel are now spreading this in comments and livechats in High Hopes reactions as if it were true
yeah thx for those alternative facts !!!!! (not ofc)
I notice Emppu jumping off the drum riser. He may have checked on Jukka.
I don't think Toumas has an ego. Like you said, he let's the spotlight be on the others. He is a true artist in that he creates music for us. I think he gets enjoyment out of us enjoying his music.
Thanks, really interesting listen you two
I prefer the depth and grittiness of the Nightwish version...
This rendition kicksass !
This is not a cover, this a Nightwish Version from a great song.
One of the cool things about NW is that it is a band with many flavours and at times you get to understand who their influences was or are.I guess Pink Floyd is one of them and they are giving this song the NW treatment and makes the song to their own in a great way. There has been talk about their female singers but this song displays the musicianship of the band itself, though they neve go in to any extended solos or stuff like that. They are able to control their egos enough to do exactly what is the best for the song and keep the dicipline. I bet that everyone of the guys would love the idea to burst in to some 5 minute solos but they don't as it does not make the song or the concert better or the concept of the show any better. Marco is a great singer in his own right but still having a operatic singers like TArja or recently Floor gives them an extra edge to be an extra ordinary band around.
Great reaction and analyses.
If you want to see Tuomas feeling not well, watch Everdream from this same concert. Guys new this was their last time with Tarja although she didn’t know that yet.
He may have been directing the cameraman to focus of Jukka at that point due to the re-entry of drums into the song.
Jukka is not timing with the hi-hat. They use click tracks. They have to so the orcestral parts are in place.
Ok, got me - sub'd 🤘
This is much better then original, omg. Marko and nightwish was amazing. And why u thought that drummer was sick?.. Tuomas turned his had not to check drummer helth) this is something when you so on adrenalin and cant control your body.
Jukka seemed fine all show. He likes to do that to stretch his back. They were about to fire their singer after this show.. and not knowing that the future held... that might be it. ;)
I have tikets for two BIG concerts 🤘🇫🇮
I cant believe I hadn't heard this cover before, A great cover from a great band-Marco has a great voice....If They ever lost Flora I dont think it would ever hurt these guys :P
other than they wouldn't be female fronted ;) although Marco likes to wear a kilt so a skirt wouldn't be too big of a stretch lol! :D
I'd like to find out how this song would play out with Floor doing the vocals. I got shivers just thinking about it....
Jukka could be thinking about what he knows is coming. They fired Tarja right after this show. As for the song and performance, I'm a Pink Floyd fan and I absolutely loved this the very first time I heard it. They did an amazing job with it.🤘👍
yes AND JUkka was indeed pretty sick that night
Jukka actually dropped out of Nightwish because of insomnia, so I'd say excellent diagnosis.
Jukka doesn’ t feel well couse they know, they will give Tarja the boot for Nightwish after this gig. All dude in the band were in pain for that,... 🤔
Jukka has a his own style to do some rest or kind of meditation during the concerts. If you watch other live dvd's he is doing the same thing on those too.
Jukka is not sick, wish people would quite saying that, i have seen them preform this song many times, and he does it every time. Plus this is about an hour and half before they dismissed Tarja
John, it is very well known that this was Tarja's last evening with Nightwish, AND JUKKA WAS FEELING VERY SICK THAT NIGHT. Watch their intervieuws.
React Wintersun
I would like to suggest you to react Wintersun - Time live rehearsal at Sonic Pump Studio. Please and peace 🙏🏼😊✌🏼
Great reaction btw! 😊
Check out Wolfheart - Ashes. They Wolves of Karelia comes out at the same day than Nightwish - Human:Nature.
Please do reaction of Poet and the pendulum (live in Wembley)
Jukka's had a lot of health problems, but just the chemistry of the band was suffering. This was an extremely emotional concert for all four of them. I don't agree with the way they let Tarja go, , but I don't think they could have healed their relationship at that point. They seem like they are much better people now and to have made up with her for the most part. He did do The Poet and The Pendulum at Wembley but I think the techs turned some of the vocal in his ear monitor off.
Hi from the UK something for you to check out floor Jansen singing as a guest with other bands
Soilwork let this river flow with floor Jansen
Evergrey in orbit with floor Jansen
Epica sancta terra with floor Jansen
Northward while love died official music video
Ayreon Merlin's will featuring floor Jansen
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This is more a great tribute to Pink Floyd than cover including also the symbol. But are you serious about the not feeling well of Jukka? No - one has seen that yet as far as I know. Rumors say that Tarja was in a flue during this concert. Yes this is different and their own style to put it as heavier version.
Great analysis, they are an exceptional group of musicians as this cover shows. It takes some massive stones taking on a song and band the likes of Pink Floyd. There are plenty of renowned metal bands that do the occasional homage and manage to completely butcher it (Metallica' cringeworthy attempt of Hocus Pocus springs to mind).
Speaking of Focus, it would be awesome if you guys would be willing to do a reaction to the 1973 live version of prog-rock/proto metal history -) czcams.com/video/g4ouPGGLI6Q/video.html #datsweeppicking
ps. I have to agree, with your mom' assessment. Jukka' body language spells 'not feeling well' all over it.
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Marco flubs a couple of lines of the lyrics, but just keeps on going like the absolute pro he is. Just replaced two lines with lines from another verse.
Jukka had a bad migraine…how the F does one play drums with a migraine!! This is a tribute to PF not a cover; a tribute overshadowing the original IMHO!
Sounds really incredible but where is the joy of playing? At least there was a good excuus but if you see the joy there is in the Wacken concert......that`s a whole different atmosphere. I love Pink Floyd as well, never seen a better concert yet than the Wall (version with Roger Waters I saw)
It's because they all knew that they were going to be giving Tarja, the band's first singer, her walking papers as soon as this concert is over. Even though it had gotten to the point that they (the guys in the band) all agreed that it was something that they needed to do. It doesn't mean it was a easy thing for them to do. An I'm sure they all had mixed feelings concerning the uncertain future that would leave for the band. So they were all more then a bit stressed out.
This is in no way a cover, most times a cover cheapens the song. This is tribute from one genious to another. An interpetation with the respect necessary. Cleaner?
Tribute, not a cover 🙂