150 Yards w/Hunting Bow - Stabilizer vs No Stabilizer
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Had some fun, and tested my accuracy with & without a 10" stabilizer on my hunting bow at 150 yards. Thirty total shots (five rounds of three arrows with a stabilizer, five rounds w/o). This was my first attempt at this, one take.
Bow setup (what I hunt with): well tuned Bowtech Destroyer 340 (2011), 70 lbs, 31" draw, well tuned Goldtip Pierce arrows- 474 grain, flying at 298 fps, Stan SX3 release, QAD HDX rest, Spot Hogg Fast Eddie site.
More stuff, and cool artwork at www.zachevenart.com
I did my own test at 150 yards. Results: 20 shots without stabilizer 0 hits. 20 shots with stabilizer 0 hits. So yeah. No difference.
You win
so funny. perfect~
LMAO
Ha ha, good 1
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I couldn't hit a semi trailer at 150 yds. This guy's an animal. Well done.
Yes you could lol
Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine czcams.com/users/postUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.
The most amazing part of the video is a non windy day in Wyoming!
Worth mentioning that this guy is an absolute ANIMAL. Most people can’t shoot 150. If ur good enough to shoot 150, then you don’t need it. If your like me, and struggle at 70-80, then u need it lol.
I love this! I bought another carbon bow because it's light (and warm when it's cold) and it seemed odd that I would be aiming for reduced weight and then adding a bunch of weight to it. I think that in some cases we are so brainwashed by accessories manufacturers that we just add stuff because we believe that we are supposed to. I have never had a problem shooting tight groups within actual hunting ranges without a stabilizer. I was just told by other archers that I needed one because it will make me a better shot. I don't think that it really made a difference in actual hunting ranges (8-60 yards). I do enjoy the dampening effects that stabilizers afford me but I could get that without adding a bunch of weight. Apparently, I thought that I would be viewed as a Luddite if I didn't have all of these accoutrements on my bow. I guess it's true, it's not the equipment... it's the operator. Great video and mega badass shooting bro.
Great video. I think the most impressive part was using a pencil dot on the sight ring to accurately aim. I'd like to see a followup video where you shoot at 60 yards and see how many 10 rings your score versus not, because that's more of a real world scenario. As impressive as it is to hit a 2-3 foot bag from 150 yards, I'm not sure that's the best test.
The point of a longer stabilizer and or side bar stabilizer is to calm down the pin float. He has good form and looks to be shape so he probably has the technique and back muscles to control his shot without one. NOW, someone who doesn’t shoot as much would really benefit from a longer stabilizer and weight out front. A longer stabilizer can instantly tighten groups for some/most. Buy one and make your own judgement.
dang. I'm just learning to be consistent at 20 yards!
Probably a little late but shooting longer distances magnifies your mistakes so you will get a lot more out of your practice if you do some long distance as well
How's it going now? Been 7 months since you posted this comment. And yeah I've been shooting for a week and a dude told me his last deer he killed at 90 yards.. fml
Don’t grip the bow with your front 4 fingers, it should sit between thumb and index finger at full draw and other fingers should be ahead of riser and not gripping it. Relax your front arm that holds the riser and make sure you have a consistent anchor somewhere on your face, don’t move arms around after draw everything should be anchored and only your form as one adjust to the target, count your breathing, assuming your bow is for the correct eye dominance and it has been setup properly tight groups at 20m are possible
@@HumanTimeMachine the riser?
Great vid, like the no messing about opening and clean straight video
Holy Shit. This guys Amazing
I would have liked to have seen the stab vs no stab done at a more reasonable range like 60-65yds where grouping would have been more possible. It would have been nice to see how group size compares with and without a stab. The 150 yard shot seems like it’s either hit or miss. It’s really hard to be precise at 150. At a range that allows for groups to be shot, we could have seen how the stab effects precision shooting.
Retest at 50 yds????
He’s using the bowtech destroyer 340 if anyone’s wondering
It would be interesting to see it done again, but with a bow quiver in place.
yep.. I hunt with my quiver on.. its a tight spot and jammed right up against my hoyt roller guard, just clearing the limbs but the rear stab def makes a difference.
Legolas, what do your Elf eyes see?
Thanks for making this video, I really appreciate your time and effort.
Has anyone ever told you your brother looks just like you?
What a great video! Thank you so much for doing that experiment! Valuable information!
Saw you were at 999 so I subbed. Happy 1000!
Good for you!!!
Haha, thanks!
wow dude
i was in awe and jaw dropping the whole time
you excellent at this
Shooting is all about confidence...and training!
Hope ya have a good season Zach, Quiver full of hope.
LOL Loved the start of this vid. I just went from a CBE torx 11''front/7'' rear with a lot of weights, to a Quattro 15''front/10'' rear adjusting weights so it's really not making my setup any heavier. BIG difference.
Are you ok around kryptonite?
I have been shooting without a stabilizer for the past 4 months after beginning archery. I did notice that the bow was much steadier shooting at 80 yards compared to 45. I came to the conclusion that the tilt of the bow resulted in a more favorable center of gravity which assisted in a more favorable stabilization.
I do wonder if the benefit of the stabilizer is negated at such a range due to the change of the center of gravity with the tilt of the bow.
By no means am I an expert, but working with center of gravity has been a vital task in my profession.
Regardless, I am very impressed with your accuracy with a bow. Well done!
Great vid. That’s what I needed to see.
The arrows seem to have the energy of a 40# recurve bow at 20 yards upon target, from 150 yards with the compound. Technology is a wonderful thing, and a game changer.
Getting dark is why you didn't shoot as good right there at the end!!! Awesome test!! I wasn't expecting those results
that and fatigue, i know it was only 30shots but he is walking 300ft to get his arrows each time lol.
You mean 300 yards each time.
Love the Backcountry hunters and Anglers shirt
Thanks! Me too ;)
He's right. A well exercised arm and a practiced, dead hand are all the mass stabilization you really need.
I don't think I could land that many arrows if not one at a 150 yard target ....stablizer or no stabilizer nice shooting man
Awesome comparison good vid thanks Zack
I’ve done a similar test (not video documented) and it produced very similar results. I had a front and a rear stabilizer on.....talk about a lighter unit to carry with all that stuff gone!!! WOW.
Can you explain how you determined the appropriate place to draw a dot for 150?
let's show this to Olympic style shooters with their broomsticks
Cough.. cough.. no wind. Don’t get me wrong, spectacular accuracy. Where I live has constant breezes, holding steady in the wind without a stab is possible, but tough.
That’s very similar results at 150 yards.
I imagine at actual hunting distances the groups would be essentially the same.
Interesting. I feel it is how stable your bow arm is to score. I'm still shooting with my 1995 Hoyt Alfa Tech 3D bow till today and have killed several wild boars with it. With or without stabilizer I can hit an orange or apple at distances up to 75 feet. I think it is how an archer grip the handle that is important. Thanks for your demonstration. I've never shot that far.
This video tells me that it's really for Olympic style shooting, and at 150 yards there are probably too many variables out of your control to make a difference. But for example the riser I just picked up is very neutrally balanced, so to adjust that I'd need to add weight, and by using a stabilizer with weights on the end, I can affect the balance more without having to add more weight.
Thank you for the nice work!
That is incredible shooting !!
It's what u are comfortable with that's what counts :) great video and good shooting
First of all, you are using B Stinger only on front of bow. Put on quiver with arrows and set up for balance. Second, Shrewd would be much better, I'll tell you later why. Third, Mathews would be best, again I'll tell you later why. In shooting a bow "It's not the arrow, It's the Indian". If you are an average shooter, Shrewd stabilizers front and side bar on back add a coolness factor that will impress anyone when you show up. That's important. If you are shooting a Mathews Bow with matching Camo stabilizer its more expensive than Shrewd so people will be in awe. When you miss, you can blame it on something, but it won't be you. With stabilizers you don't have to practice because you will be able to impress people without actually hitting anything. Also PETA will be on your side with the conservation you are showing towards the deer population. Putting a dot on bottom of sight housing is really uncool. Really, a dot. You need a fiber optic holographic image corrected for earth rotation. And lastly, shooting 30 arrows is ridiculous. Anybody can hit stuff if you practice. Be like gun hunters, and just drag out the ole 30-30 once a year or two and let her fly. You are really making the rest of us look bad. Stop it.
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its sad that we have to disclaimer "not for hunting distance". it gets so tiring sometimes. thank you for the video.
Dang! Nice shooting. Great video. Very interesting. I think your experiment was set up well.
Nice work, man! I would have spread them over a ten foot area at 150 yards!
I can't see anything at 150 yards!
Incredible form man.
Props for doing this without a golf cart.
You are an insane shot bro. I do about the is good at 80 yards. Never tried this. Idk… maybe I can do it. I shoot a Mathew’s LX lol.
I have never seen anyone wrap the index finger around the grip like you do that’s interesting very good shooting
I've recently dropped using a stab on a carbon defiant 34. Especially in the wind where the stap gets blown around more.
Each bow is different though
nice video! by the way what's brand compound bow u used? I never seen it befor.
I just got a 40 lb recurve bow I’m going to go deer hunting with it this year
So after all this what do you have on the end of your hunting bow these days.
I'm more impressed by the blazers. I just love blazers. This proves it.
just got back from opening day here in alabama and the mosquitoes are so bad this year. I feel your pain
great thanks bud...good cardio on the shoot
You are a hell of a shot brother
Great shooting! Awesome vid!
For some, stabilizers are more valuable than others. For someone that is very relaxed and doesn’t pull hard into the back wall, like you, a stabilizer is not nearly as important. For someone that has a dynamic shot, pulls harder or has low letoff, a stabilizer makes a huge difference.
You should try that with a better stabilizer setup
Do you have a magnifying lense in the sight?
Thanks for making this video, it seemed to me up until the last round the groups without stabilizer were slightly better. I was just wondering about this very thing stabilizer vs no stabilizer. I could see how the weight out front creates leverage to magnify torque rather than reduce it....just a theory though.
Do you even lift bro?
Interesting results there!
I have thought about tak8ng my front stabalizer off and just run my back bar because my sight k8nd of acts like a front stabalizer
Point being st 150 said you would never shot an animal why not 60 and use 3 targets better sampling and more pragmatic moving from one target to the other to see how accurate you are with and without
I believe it's because the jump from 60 to 150 yards adds such a higher demand for stability just to even hit the target, and that's what the test was about, does the stability control remain the same for him with or without a stabilizer. Just my opinion though
Love the shirt man! oh yeah great trial and error video on to stab or not to stab. I feel my bow kicks to much without a stab and it also has a lean to the quiver to it. Do you hunt with out a bow quiver?
Love it, nice work, I do similar hunting science experiments with my bow haha. Sweet video editing BTW 💪
Try a 15 in front and a 10 on the back and actually balance your bow.
Yes it is true. Stabilizers are overrated. I have been shooting Olympic re-curve bow for over 14 years and about a year ago I realized that I can shoot without stabilizers almost with the same precision... But I believe stabilizers boost the lifetime of your bow because they take a lot of vibration energy.
So did the test results result in you changing your hunting set up? Are you still going to drag that 10 incher around the oak woods?
Was there a guy hiding behind a rock 10 yards away shooting replica arrows?!!
That’s some fine shooting for sure!
Nice shooting👍 awesome eye opening (for some) test. I'm not sure what's better - the comments or the video... You should post this on Archery Talk😎
What’s your bow and what’s it set up at?
Great video and I love the shirt. Go Pokes!
I would say a stabilizer is helpful for an average shooter you just have impeccable technique so you don't need one. I slowed down the video to .25 to see your technique and there is no torquing of the bow and its extremely steady and is definitely shows in your groups.
How did you find a calm day. No wind that’s a challenge in Wyoming itself. Thanks for the video.
Impressive shooting!
Why do you put your vanes down so far on your arrows?
so many comments from guys saying i couldnt hit a bldg at 150 yards or i couldnt hit a bus at 100 yards..probably because you have never done it or more importantly practice at long range..the bows of today are incredible compared to the bows of 20 years ago and if you can group arrows tightly in a 3-4 inch group consistantly at 20-25yards you def can shoot at very long ranges..the equipment of today makes long range shooting much easier than most people think...a stabilizer makes a big difference in tournament shooting..a 30in stabilizer or longer makes a huge difference in accuracy..why do you think EVERY SINGLE top shooter uses them..on the incredible compound bows of today used for hunting not so much..they mostly balance out alot of these long shafted hunting sights which can be very heavy like an hha....most important at least for me and im sure alot of other bowhunters will agree,,, a compound hunting bow looks naked or even like shit without one and thats why i will never ever shoot without one..my 2 cents
That’s good shooting!
I can’t see 159 yards what is going on here exactly
My favorite bow is ridiculously off balance without a stabilizer. It might help or not, but its much more comfortable.
Thats great shooting
Nice work I enjoyed it!
Thanks for saving me some money on gear "I think I need"
This whole video is a humble brag, hahahaha. Just kidding man. You are a savage making it rain out at that distance!! Well done!
I’ve owned several bows over the years, some of them I shot well with out stabilizers. My current bows I feel like they need to have them
Seems to me that a stabilizer is a tool that helps the shooter. It also quiets your bow, but if your good enough to stablize yourself, you should have no issues.
Legolas, is that You!?
ТЕСТ ТЕСТОМ, НО ЗАКАТ ПРОСТО ШИКАРНЫЙ!
What kind of bow are u shooting?
What camera did you film this with?
Great video..
There is a high chance that shooter bias would interfere with the results of this "test". That's why real science uses a double blind method to isolate bias from the results, not really possible in this case. Nice shooting though, 150 yards is a long bow shot. I was out in a rock pit practicing at 60 yards with broadheads the other night on an 18" target. That will keep you focused on a clean release...
You should try a V-bar set up vs without
Stabizers are meant to help someone who doesn't punch their trigger and let's the shot surprise them. And another thing stabilizers won't help someone who has bad form.
Shots fired!
Woah, what kind of mount do you have for that elk head? Very clean.
Great video! Awesome hat by the way ;)
Awesome video