"Voice Acting In JRPGs Are Bad"
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*Cdawg“Nah I’ll do it myself”VA*
That's actually a pretty fair point. You press X or left click to show the whole dialogue at once and read it yourself rather than have the game slowly unveil it to you. Or even worse, the game physically blocking you from doing so because the characters need to play a certain animation. Genshin did this A LOT and it really bugged the hell out of me
Same, it's so annoying, especially in situations where I don't even care about half of the text
Literally the reason why I quit Genshin, it was possible to skip through it at your own pace when the game fist launched and then after a few patches they made it so you couldn't skip anymore until most of the voiceover was finished.
I hate being forced to sit there and wait when it takes less than half a second to read the whole paragraph myself.
I actually prefer mix of both i like main story to be acted and the iportant side missions to be as well
I don't like reading in genshin because they fluff out the dialogue with repeating things other characters just said or that was just seen and then they add too much dialogue to convey something that would only take a sentence.
Dragon Ball Z Kakarot where the game decided to imitate the slow ahh Anime and have them take an hour long pause after every sentence.
Assuming this is regards to cutscenes that require you to press A to advance text, yeah I can agree that it can be obtrusive if you want to read it on your pace.
But honestly this is why I much prefer if RPGs have a "auto-advance on voiced dialogue" feature so that I can read normally on unvoiced cutscenes and go hands-free when dialogue comes up.
But if you have to press a button to advance the text then you ARE reading it at your own pace..? Lmao unless you’re just spamming the button
@@ResistantPig69 See, here's the thing. When it comes to voiced dialogue, some ppl (like me), read FASTER than the voiced dialogue and so it usually means it have to take a while for thw dialogue to finish after I read the text. In a long RPG that builds up after a while.
@@HyperAmiNanashi but me reading faster is why I don’t use auto if I’m reading the text bc it’s so slow. Also they kind of talk slow too 😭. I do like the games where they let us just press to skip and it doesn’t have to wait for the voices to finish. I think Neptunia did that.
Although I will read faster than the voice over does follow, I don't like continuing until after it's done. It just bothers me to do so. Also, I have a hatred for auto play, because every time I use it, it has led to dialogue being skipped.
@@ResistantPig69you must be dense not to understand this, think about the difference between having a full page worth of words in front of you compared to one sentence with you spamming the next dialogue box
I like that the recent Like a Dragon and Judgment games give you the option to forward the dialogue at your own pace. The downside being even if you read in a decent Tempo the cutscene look like a sequence of jumpcuts and animated Stills and people and actions seemingly popping out of nowhere because you didn't let it play out.😂
Connor just looking to use cutscenes as QTE voice actor training.
Next week: Connor discovers the "Mute" setting in his games
My mind is blown. He just basically told me a problem that I’ve been having for a long time but I didn’t realize it.
tbh thats one of the main reasons i prefer manga over anime. i can just read as fast as i want instead of having to sit there and watch the story at the show's pace.
I wish I knew what episode this was from
201 Man
How has trash taste changed
201
he should play a mihoyo game since they dont let you skip cutscenes
Why would he play that if that's the opposite of what he wants?
Honestly yeah, I find dialogue more interesting than visuals usually. I’ll even watch anime at 2-4x speed as long as I can read the subs fast enough, I’m good.
I honestly hate fully voiced games because they are just repeating back what I read way slower and it feels like missing out on something to skip the voices even if you don't really enjoy the voices. I can get through dialogue so much faster just reading it myself instead so it feels like I'm missing out if I skip the voices but it feels like I'm punished for reading faster than they talk.
Can't you just turn off the voices?
@@deecee1853 Some games don't have that as an option so you would have to completely mute all sound to turn off the voices and at that point you can't listen to the music.
@@pup1337 I see. Didn't know there were games like that. It's either games with no voice acting, or if there's voice acting, you can tune the volume. Some visual novels even have the option to adjust individual character voices.
But hey I don't get the time, nor do I have the money to play that many games.
Did you know that In Persona 5 *ROYAL*, They added alot of voice acting, most didnt mind it at all.
no VA really sucks, its like talking to your self. I hate my self.
I kinda get that - I feel bad about silencing the character midway thru their sentence (yes, I know it's literally just a video game character) but mAN, sometimes they take tOO LONG
Best way to me is making the text go faster than the dialogue and then listen to the dialogue after reading, same thing with anime just read ahead and listen
Conner: Nah, I’d read.
When I played "Until Then" I did the full thing voiced on my own and I agree it is much more fun.
As an old, one of my least favorite developments in videogames was the move towards full voice acting. I really miss the way older rpg's handled it, where greetings or important text got VA but everything else was read-at-your-own-pace. Now I'm stuck either skipping through the majority of dialogue, which feels bad, or I just have to wait for NPC #17 to get out their line about their missing cat or whatever.
Bro roleplays as everyone in the games he plays
Imagine bro saying some shi like "B- bu- but my heart just ain't ready for all this.." lmao
He should play genshin. All the important quests are not voiced 💀
It’s kinda like reading a Book you enjoy and act out scene from the book so you can be immersed to its world. Basically how actors does it when reading a script which honestly can make you a great voice actor
Reminds me of how Persona 5 let you change the text speed in the settings. Very convenient
For me, i like both text and voices because i still want to know what's being said and what's going on, even if i barely pay attention to the voices or can't hear them.
Tbf as a Jrpg enthusiasts reading it for myself specially dialogues makes me understand more of the story that hearing it..
Same. I read pretty fast so I’d rather consume the story like a book, rather than wait for things to be spoken to me… but if I press A every time I finish reading and the voice actor is still only on their third word, I feel bad for skipping past their hard work…
It's the dawg in him that can't do it
Japanese games often went way overboard with their dialogue’s text that make me prefer the full on cutscenes or a narrative format text instead.
I think most game have options where you can just slide the volume for voice to zero so this should not be a problem
I feel that way about visual novels
Except for in Tales of Symphonia and FF7 Remake.
Xeno gears must be this guy's favorite game then
people dont realise this is the exact reason pokemon dont have voice acting, you are supposed to play it at your own pace even the dialogue
Depends on how dialogue heavy the jrpg is
Yeah I get it like i really enjoyed destroying my voice playing dragon ball legend
This is great, keep it up. Also, anything Berserk is good as long as it's not the eclipse.
Honestly I'm the same way its probably why I love visual novels I can do the voices myself
I get where he’s coming from; sometimes the pacing in older cutscenes especially is just off.
No surprise from the voice actor
JRPG and many animes have some of the worst voice acting because of their choice to do cutesy teenie bopper voices that are the worst to listen to. I'd rather watch 80's anime where the studios just have their interns do the voice overs.
Didn’t Garnt and Joey voiced in a game too? Wasn’t it terrible?
All 3 voiced in Honkai Star Rail as npc's. It was more comedic than terrible in my opinion
I have the issue where they seem to talk slow and it really kills the immersion.
if you get bored listening to voice acting then its probably because you are not interested in the story
Not really, sometimes I rather read it myself like Pathfinder, it has a lot of texts and lores, so I just play in mute and read it myself.
You can be invested in the story but not the voices.
Guess dog can’t… literally watch any show ever… I guess
_Both,both is good_
Not me, if a girl comes in, I’d sound like sammyclassicsonicfan if I’d try to VA
So it’s an engagement issue
bro is playing manga
Most of the dialogue in jrpgs is usually very poorly written and is just dry exposition, and you don't want to waste any more time listening to them.
There are stories that needs the voice acting but sometimes the direction of their voice acting doesnt suit the scene and im snoozing
After enduring the english dub of Xenoblade 2 I kinda have to agree with him 😅
I think more JRPGs should start having the option to disable voices in settings for people like Connor
I mean most games have several options for lowering volume including specifically voice lines.
Most games have voice lines as separate settings in the volume menu nowadays so implementing that to all games should be easy.
A lot of them do tbh
This is why he didn't stream ff16 any further and instead streamed older ff titles
I'm the opposite,reading while playing is impossible for me. I'll just hear the dialogue & skim over the writings
They always do their voice lines wrong. Like in my head that voice line should have been delivered differently. It gets really annoying sometimes
Very hot take
I'm not a fan of pressing a thousand times to skip those jpegs talking about innane shit
Connor's takes are either bad or just...fucking odd
This is square in the odd category lmao
Pretty clickbait title but at least the content was interesting enough to take into consideration.
Just play games that actually have engaging stories and acting rather than the 900000th 'Teen boys have to kill god accompanied by female yandare protags and comical sidekick' a Lot of the written only JRPGs have like 90% filler and the rest Is segmented Into different types of information that becomes an absolute chore to get through. Then you pair It up with dumb writing, poorly directed VA and static scenes, you aint going to engage fucking anybody
What jrpgs have yanderes in the party? That sounds pretty uncommon.
Just turn off voice audio lmao
Well they're also bad voice actors most of the time
Connor doesn't watch movies, he just reads the script and plays it in his head
I love this because Connor is so hypocritical. Skips cutscenes but when not they can't talk for me because I'm reading it.
He's actually admitting that he's learned to not skip all cutscenes, and now that he's achieved that level of growth he prefers written dialogue to spoken. That's not hypocritical, that's a modicum of progress from his adolescent Xbox Live gamer personality.
It's progress and he did start appreciating the story so maybe he will come around as he plays more
Cringe
Connor's literally doing a Homelander; "I'M BETTER, I AM BETTER!"
Me watching a playthrough where Game Grumps does the ‘male protagonist voice’ for the hundredth time: 🥲😭😂