Tommy Visits Ellie and Dina Scene - THE LAST OF US 2 (THE LAST OF US PART 2 Cinematic)
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the last of us 2 cinematic scene of Tommy Visits Ellie and Dina, this will be a full cinematic scene. SPOILERS AHEAD, the last of us 2 cinematic scene.
The Last of Us Part II is a 2020 action-adventure game developed by Naughty Dog and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment for the PlayStation 4. Set five years after The Last of Us (2013), players control 19-year-old Ellie, who comes into conflict with a mysterious cult in a post-apocalyptic United States. The game contains survival horror elements and is played from a third-person perspective. Players can use firearms, improvised weapons, and stealth to defend against enemies and cannibalistic creatures infected by a mutated strain of the Cordyceps fungus.
The Last of Us Part II is an action-adventure survival horror game played from the third-person perspective.Payers can use firearms, bows, improvised weapons, and stealth to defend against hostile humans and cannibalistic creatures infected by a mutated strain of the Cordyceps fungus. The gameplay mechanics in Part II have also expanded upon its predecessor, The Last of Us. In it the player character can traverse the environment more openly by being able to reach higher vantage points by jumping and climbing while playing as the more nimble Ellie. Players can also crawl in a prone position to evade enemies. Throughout the game, players will have a non-player character assisting them. Additionally, large portions of the game are set in Seattle, Washington.
The game also sees the return of "Listen Mode" allowing players to locate enemies through a heightened sense of hearing and spatial awareness, indicated as outlines visible through walls and objects. Additionally, players can collect supplements to upgrade skills in a skill tree. The three main branches of the tree are Survival, Crafting, and Stealth. Survival upgrades improve health, Listen Mode's range, and throw distance. Crafting upgrades allow for melee upgrades, increase to Ellie's crafting speed, and the ability to craft smoke and stun bombs. Stealth upgrades improve prone movement speed, faster stealth kills, and unlock pistol silencers. Part II also introduces guard dogs that can track the player's scent. - Hry
Joel would've hated Tommy for this, he would never want that for Ellie or Tommy, this whole revenge thing just destroyed their lives and in the end they all lost, there's no winners.
This game really made it so that no one gets a happy ending Ellie lost Joel and Jessie and now would have to work to fix her relationship with Dina and Tommy , Tommy is fucked up now physically and mentally, and all of Abby’s friends and people she loved got killed and she was tortured/ slaved for months all she has now is lev this game made sure no one got a good ending
@@djgreene5440Tlou never should have gotten a sequel the community is divided
@@karenwillreallyexposeyou8531 Just not a sequel in this direction IMO. Almost all of the elements of the first game take such a huge back seat that this is hardly recognisable as TLOU. Mini essay coming up if anyone gives a shit
The entire foundation of the emotions we feel from the first game is given to us entirely based on the relationship between Joel and Ellie, how they react to certain events, and how it affects their own relationship. In the sequel, these characters that we now understand deeply are either immediately discarded (Joel), changed so drastically without guiding us through that change in real time to ensure we still resonate with their feelings and experiences (Ellie) or go AWOL for most of the story (Tommy.) This cuts off this foundation entirely and we are expected to immediately be able to resonate with substitute characters like Abby, Owen, Jesse and Dina despite all the work they did to let us experience the lives of the cast of the first game.
Ellie's immunity plays such a little role in the story. Dina, Nora and two Rattlers learn about it in isolated instances with no consequence to the overall narrative. The origins and understanding of the infected isn't explored much either.
The entire WLF and Seraphite war is so unrelated to the background and context of the TLOU that you can plug it into a different game and it would still 'work.'
I honestly think they did a fairly good job executing a story so divergent from the source material, but the reasoning behind why it strays so far from the identity of TLOU makes absolutely no sense to me. Maybe something to do with the second storywriter who joined the team for this game? They got lost in the sauce
@@potatochicko Wow, it’s almost as if they told a different story from the first game. That’s so unlike a sequel. 😮
@@Bloooo95 GOW ragnarok told a very different story from the first game but they didn't throw away Kratos, completely change Atreus' character (when he gets all pissy the writers actually take us through that change), and expect you to emotional resonate with and play as Odin for half of the game.
Mate I bloody loved TLOU 2 even with criticisms, but I certainly would've loved it more if they stuck truer to the elements of what TLOU actually is
Contrary to many, I actually really like this scene. Tommy's reaction is realistic and human. He's lost his brother, lost an eye, is limping along, and the quest to Seattle clearly hurt his relationship with Maria to the point that he essentially doesn't have anyone left at the moment. And then he goes to visit the one person he thinks could understand and she just says no, I'm done. Its totally understandable that he feels betrayed by it, and he's gone throufh a lot of changes through the years that it makes the whole thing fit his character development.
There is nothing realistic nor human about Tommy's reaction. The man has lived 26 years in that world and has seen a lot of loss. He also knows what it takes to survive - and he would know how pointless this trip would be.
@@rudypepperablegrief and sadness can drive u insane plus hes disabled and crippled so yes its realistic to not think rationally when u are forced to live like that everyday
Finally someone who understands Tommy's physiology
@@rudypepperableTell you know nothing about sadness without telling me you know nothing about sadness
Is it wrong to have a peaceful life? Lol
I feel sorry for Tommy. He lost himself in the duel.
if they had a duel properly tommy could’ve won
I was talking about the emotional duel haha but yeah, i agree
yeah, he lost his brother :(
he didn't lose, in the end Ellie went to get Abby. DIna lost. and she was salty so she left Ellie while she was gone like a coward
@@qrukibot8296if lev wasn’t there he would of
This scene is amazing. Tommy is a reflection of who Ellie could become
He’s a reflection of who Ellie was earlier in the game. Don’t forget that Ellie pushed him to go to Seattle with her, and he chose to give up his on his comforting environment (Jackson) to help her. The roles are simply reversed here.
🤯never noticed until now tbh
@@DoggedGrim Don't pretend that he wouldn't have gone without Ellie anyways.
@@ghoslt Yes. He would've gone to Seattle. With a group of people! But since Ellie decided to dip. He couldn't take the time to plan shit out and gather people to volunteer and get justice for Joel.
What? This scene highlights how bad the writing was for this game. Tommy is 100% right.
Man was I glad Tommy was still alive. I got really upset him getting shot so I lost focus on the gameplay.
Spoilers below
I absolutely hated that cut when Jesse got killed (absolute tragedy) and tommy was on the ground, potentially about to die.Had to play through Abbys bullshit to get back to there. I will admit, I started to enjoy the people around her and her unique personality (manny, her fear of heights) but I still hated how I had to fight Ellie. I still wanted Ellie to kill her then and there. I was properly pissed when tommy was hit.
@@Azakadune I think that cut was made at the worst possible time making me struggle to like her until day 2 I mean I just saw her s
Kill one of my favorite characters with gun trained on the other 2
Crazy how Tommy even survived that
He's my favorite character
I hope he dies in The Last of Us 3
I think the point was that before Tommy didn't want to go after the wolves, cuz he had someone to lose like Maria. Now that Maria has left him, all he has is his trauma and rage. Goes to show how much you need people when you are at your lowest.
I wish tommy loved ellie enough to not ask her to go on revenge quest, but I guess his love for Joel and his rage was the strongest at this point
I’m also sure since he lost function of half of his body he wants Ellie to do it for him
I think you have it a bit backwards. Tommy did love Ellie to the point that he himself asked her not to take revenge and he knew she wouldn't listen so he himself went out there and asked Maria to not let Ellie go. This was at the start of the game and changed as the story progressed.
What you said is true that losing Maria made him a bit twisted and also Jesse's death added to his hatred and ofc him being shot in the head. At that point,all he had left to do was revenge but he wasn't able to cuz of his injury.
He said not to go because he didn't want Ellie going, and then he went the next day because he knew no matter how hard he tried to deny it that Joel would've been halfway to Seattle like Ellie said. Because he wanted the same thing too, he can't let it go either. He and Maria were still together at that point too, it's the same thing that happened with Ellie when they went to the hydro dam in the first one. Tommy initially denied taking Ellie but knew he had to do it, same thing here.
As soon as she looked back down onto the map I knew that this game was far from over.
We need a game with Joel and Tommy surviving the 20 years of post apocalypse since the breakout.
That might work as a dlc but not a whole game.
@@notnero5280 it actually will be brilliant. But since it woke culture. With 2 men only . They won't allow it
@@notnero5280that would work as a perfect prequel wtf are you talking about. The game starts after Sarah’s death and shows Joel and Tommy slowly lose their morals until they become complete hunters
@@TheChosen2030 joel and tommy traveled with a group of 3 other women, tess, anna, and marlene.
@@mozzy1268 Agreed. People underestimate the ability of storywriters since they themselves don't know how they would flesh out that particular narrative idea. Just because the concept can be summed up in a simple sentence doesn't mean you can't flesh out very interesting characters arcs like the way you mentioned morals there. Technically the 3 movies of star wars prequels was literally just a Darth Vader prequel and
In all honesty tommy had a point ellie pushed him first so it was only right for him to do the same yet again he just wanted an eye for an eye because they killed Jesse , it wasn’t just about Joel it was about just ending it all together to make it seem like they didn’t do it for nothing. I don’t hate tommy because in the end he didn’t use Joel’s secret against ellie cus he’ll take it to his grave as he promised.
True Ellie did say "I'm gonna kill every last one of em"
sorry, what secret are you talking about? I thought Joel told Ellie everything, or you talking about some details, i just dont get it, tell me
@@aliezahjuarez1212and she did. She just didn’t kill the main one she went for.
What secret? Did I miss anything?
@@thejeffryjackson the fact he saved Ellie at the hospital but lied about what happened. I think that’s what they mean anyway, I could be wrong.
Remember that time Tommy want Ellie to give up? Me neither.
He's not the same person he is at the start of the story as he is at the end. He took an arrow through the leg, stabbed in the hip, and had his face shot. He wouldn't want it all to be for nothing.
Has anyone noticed that after tommy recovers we see his right eye is wounded and Tommy killed manny by shooting his right eye
An "eye for an eye". Heh.
Tommy here is exactly like Joel when Joel offered him to go with Ellie in tlou1 the rage the talking everything
Ellie said in the first game, "it can't be for nothing" and, ultimately, it was.
I’d say it wasn’t. Ellie grew. She no longer feels survivor’s guilt by the end. And she isn’t losing herself again like she did…like Joel did for many many years until they both met. Now Ellie has a responsibility with JJ, and that is to be better.
@@TITANICLUSITANIALol Dina left her at the end bro. She lost it all
@@cocob0l0 lol there was a note on the table that stated Ellie was always welcome to Jackson, indicating she did not lose it all. She may be able to get Dina back, bruh.
@@TITANICLUSITANIA She will always have a home at Jackson of course but she probably won’t get Dina and JJ back. I doubt Dina would want to continue a relationship with her after all that
@@cocob0l0 We don’t know that for sure. And once part 3 comes out, we will find out.
In any regard, she still has a whole community. Abby may or may not.
Ellie dragged Tommy into all of this, he lost everything: his family, he is almost crippled and since he was a remarkable marksman, losing an eye is like being dead for him. I always tought he was being unfair with Ellie, but seeing this scene again, he is right, Ellie is enjoying a new life with Dina as if nothing happened and as I said before he lost everything.
He isn’t right. This isn’t what Joel would have wanted. Ellie is fucked mentally and is going through trauma, PTSD and multiple insecurities all at once. She is not in a state to be continuing her obsession with revenge, and Tommy is the exact personification of that. Tommy lost his own family; everything points towards Maria having left him because Tommy was having an unhealthy obsession with finding Abby, as evident with the fact that he was pestering travelers for months to see if they’ve seen Abby around.
Ellie did not drag Tommy into this. She was originally going to go herself. You’re assuming Tommy wouldn’t have wanted revenge for Joel, his literal brother.
Both are at fault for what happened in Seattle, they should have moved on after that shitshow and realized that none of this would bring back Joel or solve their own personal grievances.
Actually no she didn’t, tommy went after Abby on his own. When he visited ellie after Joel died he lied to her abt going after Abby. He wanted to go on his own to keep Ellie safe, he even told Maria to lock Ellie up if she had to…remember that? Then when he found her at the aquarium when they got back to the theater they all agreed to let the Abby business go. So now a year plus later, Ellie’s happy healthy and has a family u expect us to believe tommy would do this? Trash writing. Yea he’s depressed but keep in mind, after watching his brother get murdered in front of him he still made it a priority to keep ellie safe. He loved ellie just as much as Joel, he always put her before himself.
So because Tommy lost everything you also think it’s fair that Ellie loses everything too? It’s almost like this obsession with revenge is good for nobody, huh.
I saw the first game Ellie didn't drag nobody in. They helped each other if only blood and rage for vengeance couldn't stop to resist the eyes of it's prey. Maybe Joel would be alive. He did lose Sarah after all. Ellie reminds him of his daughter.
Ellie was anything but happy. She was every single bit as broken if not more then tommy.
At that point of the game its not about avenging joel anymore tommy wants it for himself
Someone said that. I also believe that Tommy was more frustrated bcoz of what Abby did to him like his eye and leg got messed up
@@user-cs6fr9dj4v I would argue against that if he actually wasn’t originally willing to let her go before she crippled him.
This game stripped everybody down (like here with Tommy) and that’s why it hurts so much. A lot of people have a visceral reaction to this game and I think many of them can’t even place why. It’s because the first game makes you love these characters and the story is very cathartic, helping people heal and explore their own traumas and experiences. Then the sequel tears that wound that felt healed wide open, while also making more. That’s powerful in a lot of ways and it speaks to how well the story is executed. For me, the problem is that I don’t resonate with this story now. I look to stories for exploration, of dark themes too sometimes, but there has to be a thread of hope that resonates. In the first game this was Joel and Ellie. While it’s clear that thread of their bond will always exist, that love will always be there, things feel hopeless because everything else is taken anyway. The game makes me feel empty by the end. That’s the story ND wanted to tell and that’s their right. It’s just not the story I need in my life right now and my personal journey. And maybe that’s ok. But I’d be lying if I said I wish it weren’t different.
i actually felt relieved and hopeful watching the final scene. Ellie finally accepted Joels death there.
@@HellooooooohiiiiiI think the end is actually a hopeful one. There is light at the end of the tunnel even in the darkest situations. If we only look at the bad that’s all we will see. But if we look at the light (there was a letter for Ellie and Dina where JJ’s mom invited them back to Jackson), you can often find it.
Ellie is choosing to reconcile with what happened, her survivor’s guilt from part 1, and that Joel loved her and she loved him ultimately. She’s made peace with it all.
@@HellooooooohiiiiiI strongly disagree
Tommy always had a heart. This game did his character so damn dirty. He knows Joel would have been absolutely disgusted with him saying this stuff.
ellie did the exact same thing to him, she convinced him to go after them first
@@risottonero4501 She actually didn't convince him, he lied to Ellie saying it wasn't smart to go after them so he could sneak out and leave without her following him.
@@marinaocto9705 Yeah coz he didn't want her to risk her life at first
@@Luke-vf6qc Yea and now He want's Ellie to finish the job cause he clearly can't like I know this is insensitive to say, but in a way he needs to let it go because at that point, he was just risking Ellie's life for his revenge . Like yea Ellie was still deep in her trauma and going through it because she failed in killing abby the first time but she still tried to move on and change her life while Tommy let the anger consume him and now he can't get back the things he lost, maria, two functioning legs, and 2 functioning eyes(no disrespect to him on that part) but yea.
@@marinaocto9705 I agree. I think Joel also mentions something about no winners or everyone loses when it comes to revenge
Idk what y’all mean when you guys say that Ellie pushed Tommy to go. Ellie said she was leaving whether he’s coming or not. Then I’m pretty sure Tommy just went by himself. He made sure to give Maria the note to lock Ellie up.
People are idiots bro
She pushed him when he was making excuses about not being able to leave Jackson ("what if we get attacked by hunters, what if the wlf move" etc. Not to mention, Ellie became a niece figure to him. He knew Joel wanted to protect her, so he felt even more pressure to not let her risk her life
@@UnseenOct tommys mind was set on going before he even went to ellie with the food
@@DXSUCKIT that's not how he acted when he brought her the food.
@@UnseenOct he wanted to do it alone. He was lying to her
They really fucked Tommy up for having any future badass moments by making him so damn hurt, really pisses me off. I kinda wanted a Tommy Ellie revenge dynamic close to joel and ellie but obviously different in many ways to really flush out Tommy's character and he could help ellie with the grief benefiting both of them
That makes no sense, you saw what revenge does. It does nothing. Something you learn from the hood, when they kill your homeboy, and you retaliate. You feel nothing, because that ain’t going to bring him back.
@@ZergCheco um so what you just forgive them wtf.
@@ZergCheco in the hood 😂
@@ZergCheco”In the hood?” “Homeboy?”
If cringe was a person
@@ZergCheco Revenge does everything if you succeed.
No one talks about Dina. I really love her !
she's a little cunt
She shouldn't have gone after Tommy. She should've just stayed with Ellie
I have a feeling if Joel were alive he would make Tommy pay for guilting Ellie like that.
Make him pay how?
@@lethalsoldier8082 Probably beat him up for making Ellie feel compelled to avenge Joel
@@Spud1189 buddy thats his younger brother. He wouldnt “beat him up”
@@Spud1189 either way joel is old asf by this point. He cant beat up tommy
@@lethalsoldier8082 Yeah but as seen in TLOU Joel is a father first and everything else second and if he saw his little girl get guilted like this he wouldn’t let it slide.
This scene has a lot of parallels to Part 1 when Joel arrives at the dam and has a "chat" with Tommy. Except now it's Tommy in Joel's position and he's literally become just like his brother.
If there is a Part 3 and knowing Druckmann's writing style, Tommy will likely die unceremoniously. It will be either self-inflicted or he will just be found along the journey. The thought of it is truly devastating, but I think in a way Tommy's already gone after this scene...wracked with guilt, grief, and hatred.
He'd probably go out in a blaze. But yes I can see it.
I think they’ll forgive each other and continue to mourn over joel and properly heal together and eventually find peace within themselves, and I think we will see tommy and ellie spending time with each other while talking about joel, we saw some of this in the last of us 2
Nah tommy to much of a savage they’ll keep him
I love that Dina wasn't having it, I was like "yeah you tell him Dina!"
The way I looked at this scene was that all Tommy had left was revenge
Im assuming his mindset was "My only sibling and the only tie ive got left to the old world is dead, and the woman responsible for it, got to ride off into the sunset. Meanwhile I've lost an eye, I can't walk which has decimated my ability to protect my home, and it cost me my marriage. Everyone gets to have the happy ending BUT ME"
Tommy is fair, it was Ellie who made him go to get revenge on the first place
@@DoggedGrim nah. Ellie wanted to go by herself in the first place. Tommy made his own decision. No one controlled Tommys mind to make him go.
@@frostyo223 but you forget that tommy and Jesse wanted to go back to Jackson without killing Abby and end the hunt, so his point still stands over yours.
@@24572 That's irrelevant this entire Thread. We are talking about the start not the finish...? And besides Ellie literally agreed to leave. Know what ur talking about before Speaking please
@@frostyo223 it wasn't the fInIsH and it's absolutely relevant - jesse and tommy wanting to go back happened before the halfway point of the game, and Ellie didn't lItErAlLy agree to leave; she was clearly upset about it, hence why she left her wife later on in the game to hunt Abby.
Plus it's largely hinted that he left in the first place to keep Ellie from going in over her head, hence why he tried to get his wife to stop her.
you sound like some kid who doesn't know what they're talking about
We are talking about the start of the game and ur saying some shit about the Midway point. Ur point is completely irrelevant and I can tell you don't get taken seriously that often at home 🤣. Take a hike
Danm bro tommy won the gulag but Joel did not?
Hahahahahaha, hey no😢
bro delete this lmaooo
Lmfaoo
headshot melee > legshot pistol thems just the rules
@@skraminc Joel got his entire lower leg shot off with a shotgun and then hit in the face to death by a metal object..
Ohh ellie, strong enough to have revenge but to weak to take it.
dina the only emotionally intelligent one in this game
Not really for the first half cause she was pregnant. Jesse should've taken Dinas role.
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I think the worst part about all this for Tommy was that he was reconnecting with Joel again, someone he hadn't seen since he left the Fireflies.
2:56 me after see the final
She was not a joke. Ellie did the right thing
Edit: By giving up revenge on abby
@@mitchellbenford3896 exactly. This revenge cycle is ridiculous. If ellie killed Abby how much you wanna bet Lev might of tried to kill her. And if Lev killed Ellie, Dina might of avenged her or someone else from jackson. The cycle keeps going until someone breaks it
@@noquemacuhh1967 So, Ellie could just also kill Lev
@@ramiroparicio6545 i doubt it. Ellie isn't a cold blooded monster. She doesn't have a reason to kill Lev
hey guys ! can someone tell me what's the music at the end, when tommy goes outside. I've been looking for it since a while i cant find it.
I’ve seen people say that it doesn’t make sense for Tommy too try and get Ellie to get revenge on Abby since before he got shot he wanted to leave however I think the fact that he got shot, got paralyzed and lost his marriage because of Abby he probably because more clinical and driven by anger due to what happened to him
I feel bad for Tommy as well. I’m so glad he survived though.
I don't hate this game, and I totally get that Naughty Dog wanted to show that main characters can die, and an ending isn't always a happy one. But I just really can't agree with their decision to kill off such a great character, in only the sequel. I mean, I get that games like Red Dead, and Red Dead II had their main characters killed. But, it's also different in a lot of ways. I honestly would like to see Last of us prequel. Set before events in the 1st game took place. I wanna see what happens to Joel, and Tommy, right after outbreak day. Maybe starting at the day after Sarah dies. I wanna see Joel meet Tess, and become partners. I wanna see Joel, and Tommy try, and survive the outbreak, RIGHT when it happens. They obviously absolutely can not make Joel not really be dead, so why not just tell more of his life, in that huge gap between Sarah dying, and when we start looking for Robert with Tess.
When Game of Thrones or The Walking Dead do it, it gets received with thunderous applause. It’s supposed to make you feel angry, fill yourself with hate to immerse you in Ellie’s head… if they did that, that whole feeling would be gone. Why do so many people not see this?
It saddens me how their relationships went downhill like this. I hope they can fix it if there's a part 3
Probably I think Tommy was heated at this point because A Ellie lied to him about making abby pay and B he just had a divorce recently and was maybe not in the right mood . He and Ellie may not be best friends anymore but I don’t think they are enemies
@@ACE_1923 I agree. Tommy has never ever been this bitter towards someone before. His always known as the caring, kind and supportive. It scares and saddens me to see him like this. I hope things cool off.
TLOU 2 wrecked everything. How can a possible Part 3 build anything on the ruins Part 2 left? It is pretty much the same problem than with The Last Jedi.
@@johan9428 I totally see your point. I just wish there was a fix. Part 2 has Ellie, Dina, Tommy and Maria ending on bad terms. I wish I could see them patching things up
@@Luke-vf6qc Good luck with that. Tommy was already mad with Ellie initially refusing to go after Abby. Imagine his reaction when Ellie tells him "I changed my mind and went after Abby, I found her captive and left to die attached on a pole, I freed her so I could fight and kill her, but I changed my mind again just as I was about to finish her and let her go". Tommy: "You WHAT!?". TLOU 2 took off from where we left in TLOU and destroyed every character we knew without building anything new for a potential sequel as everything was centered around a pointless vengeance story which went nowhere. Which beg the question "Why making TLOU 2 at all?"
The 2nd game is brilliant because it is nothing but shades of grey. It is the story NO ONE wanted. I love it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. Guess why shooters often commit suicide? Because revenge doesn't heal. It destroys any soul the person has left.
This game is basically the Miller brothers getting bullied by Dina and Ellie
Dude lost his brother and good men and his own body parts chasing after some girl, and comes back after months to guilt trip the only person left who still wants him around, Joel's DAUGHTER who survives him, to throw her life away?
The Tommy shown prior to this was a guy who was willing to go BY HIMSELF, without putting Ellie at risk, to do the dirty deed. This guy isn't Tommy, he's a plot device to make the ending happen. I don't buy it.
Tommy looking down on Ellie because when he had everything and was settled down he wanted Ellie to move on and accept life now that Joel was gone. Ellie didn't care, she wanted to avenge Joel and convinced Tommy to help her and he agreed knowing his wife didn't want him to.
Now He lost his wife for vengeance and still tries to help Ellie and she rejects because she's settled down and wants to move on. Tommy let her know she was a coward and a fraud saying things she didn't mean when Joel died.
i love dina fr
So, are they truly still alive both? I always feeled like the farm was some kind of dream sequence considering dina wasn't there in the end anymore. I mean, it's reasonable to leave when ellie decides to go after Abby instead of letting it all go, but still, the farm seemed like a safe place in this World and to leave this and go out with a Baby... I don't know
Dina and her son are both alive. Presumably, they went back to Jackson, which is actually way safer than out on a farm, where Dina and her family would be vulnerable to attack from a horde of infected, hunters, some other crazy faction of human, etc. Not to mention, if one of them would get injured or fall ill, especially given that Dina is recovering from having a baby and getting shot by Lev, it makes sense that she would go back to Jackson to live with her parents. But most importantly, this is the consequence for Ellie's actions: she ends up alone because she chose to pursue revenge and leave Dina and their child behind. I do agree that the final scene is dreamlike but it's happening in real-time.
@@shanemcnelis2667 indeed
Probly just too much to take care of between the perimeter, the farm, and the baby by herself. Only logical thing would be to go back to Jackson
Atleast Tommy is alive
Man, I CAN'T WAIT to see the story of TLOU Pt. 3!
I wonder what Dina & Tommy feel like now.
And I wanna see the characters older.
The baby should be like 6 or 7 if they do a 5-ish year time skip.
Dina & Ellie should be pushin almost 30 at that point, right?
Cuz aren't they 24 in this scene?
Idk, I can't remember their ages rn, sorry. 😅
The first trailer for TLOU pt. III is gonna go CRAZY!!
After thinking about it, neither Ellie nor Tommy should be thinking about getting revenge on Abby. I understand that Joel is his family, but it was Joel who brought trouble on himself from the beginning when he massacred the fireflies (including Abby's father) in that hospital. Abby found him and claimed all those deaths. Abby spared Ellie and Tommy's lives because they weren't the ones who massacred her people. They couldn't accept that and instead of killing Abby, they kill countless numbers of her people and close friends of hers except her.
In red dead redemption 2 Arthur morgan said revenge is a fool’s game
Abby want revenge for he’s father murder and that what cost she lost every thing and ellie and tommy want revenge for joel death and that what cost ellie lost jessie and his relationship with dina and tommy lost his leg and eye
And in the end both sides lose’s no one win
i really wanted ellie to say tommy yes ill go so tommy could have been good with her and not angry cuz after all that ellie went to abby and tommy did not know about her going and probably he was angry with her ofc ellie had dina and jj literally a family at the town and probably that is why she did not go like how tommy said, but at the same time i get tommy cuz how he said ¨she promised me¨ and ellie knew she had to do that and i know that joel and ellie where upset to each other at the end because of the lie but joel did all to protect her and joel became attached to ellie and that is why he saved her also tommy as well but i really wanted that, its like dina manipulated ellie not to go idk
What I really don't like about this is people think Ellie can get off easy from her constant screw ups and Dina saying she doesn't owe Tommy anything. How can she bring up what THEY have been through when they themselves went all the way to Seattle to get revenge? That's why Tommy went alone and told Maria to keep them at Jackson, he did his part. Not only that, Ellie ignoring Tommy and leaving Jesse to go to the aquarium and killing Abby's closest friends caused the whole incident in the theater, meaning it was her fault that Jesse didn't make it back and Tommy getting badly hurt. So this whole arguing against Tommy and forgetting Jesse's death is on them is unfair on so many levels.
the whole game would be real nice if ellie had a brian or didnt even exist
It is not about forgetting Jesse's death. That would never happen. They are rasing his son. It is impossible to forget. Dina and Ellie wanted to let it go because they found some kind of happiness for themselves and their child. That is what Jesse would have wanted.
Now Tommy's argument is understandable. He couldn't find happiness after his injury and break up. But Dina and Ellie did nothing wrong when they stopped the hunt. The wrong thing was that Ellie went for revenge again. Ironically Abby would have paid for it if Ellie didn't go for her in the end.
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Tommy’s frustration is totally justifiable and human, back at the very start of the game Tommy was preaching about how revenge wasn’t the way and Ellie ignored him, Ellie had nothing to lose at the time and now after Tommy has essentially lost everything including being able bodied ellie is living comfortably and given up on the path she chose after having others pay the consequences. Her actions repercussions were purely at the cost of other people, and now that the tables have turned where she suddenly has something to lose and tommy doesn’t, she wants to live comfortably and act like her revenge story that she started never happened. Tommy is WELL within his right to be angry and frustrated, does it justify his behaviour in this scene? No. Do I understand why he would act the way he did? Yes.
it was a little satisfying hearing Tommy back talk and disparage Dina though she constantly treated Jesse like dirt for no reason and when Ellie called her out on it she ignores Tommy may have been acting like a dick towards Ellie and Dina but he made it clear that he has a dislike and disgust for people who do something wrong and have the nerve to think that they didn’t. This also shows that even the friendly and decent ones like Tommy have a loathing spot for something in particular and some like Dina can’t or won’t accept their own mistakes but will call someone out for theirs instead
Tommy was in the wrong here, his blind lust for revenge was affecting his relationships and pushing people away
@@nich2632 but he wasn’t really wrong about Dina
@@darthuchiha1418 what moment are you talking about between Dina and Tommy
@@nich2632 ppl who dont have brothers just cant seem to understand. the man lost his older brother the only person besides his wife (who now left him) he had left in his life. He was not in the wrong at all.
@@nich2632 No he wasn't. Tommy loved and cared for his people that's why he left on his own in the beginning so they wouldn't get hurt. And he survived very well through the entire trip, even sniping Manny and his entire team. It wasn't until Abby found them at the Theater that everything turned upside down. And it was all Ellie's fault because she went and killed Mel and Owen, any of Abby's other friends' deaths had nearly no impact on her whatsoever, just those two. So it was Ellie's fault that Jesse died and it was her fault that Tommy nearly got killed with that shot to the head. She owes him A LOT for coming, and Dina is out of her mind, thinking they're not accountable for being reckless. Ellie was the one consumed by revenge to the point that she wouldn't even try getting to Tommy first when he could be in trouble at the Marina, like Jesse did. She completely ignored him and went to the aquarium to mess things up for everyone. And now Tommy is in this horrible state with permanent injuries and his relationship broken. Seriously, your angle at this is very inconsiderate to the characters that suffered way more consequences than Ellie or Dina.
This really sucks cuz Ellie did make her pay, arguably way more, Ellie lost Joel and Jessie but Abby lost literally everyone, Ellie did make her pay.
right , it’s crazy how blinded people are , abby lost her dad and all of her friends / her pregnant friend / her best friend and the love of her life.
J.J va tuer Lev pour venger son père 😂
Honestly I'd take Tommy's side over Dina's any day.
I’m with tommy on this and when Ellie leaves to finish it and Dina has no right to get in there way cuz tommy is right she dosnt care Joel wasent her dad or her brother it’s not her family
This is one of the reasons The Last Of Us Part 2 is awful: it utterly ruined Tommy's character. Tommy's character was initially handled masterfully: he was pragmatic to see that it would be useless and dangerous to avenge Joel's death. But when he saw how Ellie was determined, he decided to avenge Joel by himself so Ellie doesn't endanger herself and can have closure. Tommy has always been a selfless character and his motivations to avenge Joel were selfless: it was all for Ellie's sake. But what does he do in the end after being crippled? He guilts trip Ellie into pursuing vengeance. Tommy would have never sent to danger his brother's surrogate daughter for the sake of vengeance. And Joel would have never forgiven Tommy for doing so.
Would not be surprised if Tommy was a Rattler.
Why would he be a rattler?😄
2:59 “what a joke” dawg look in the mirror
This scene is out of character for Tommy IMO..
Divorce lost his eye and crippled don't think I would be the same me if that happened
@@carlinytc7431 Don't forget what started it all: Dead brother
Character development. Killed his brother, jesse, abby and manny tried to kill him before. Lost his eye which affects survival, and now he lost his partner
if someone killed my brother I'd be out for blood, too.
@@Petey0707 Even if you knew your brother was a serial killer who killed their family and friends mercilessly?
To rescue the franchise and win back the fans, Part 3 I would like Tommy to be the main player, going after Abby during the first chapters, killing her in the same brutal way, and in the final chapters Ellie giving her life to create the vaccine , the end a world without a pandemic and Tommy playing guitar next to Joel's Tomb
Nah
nah x2
Might as well just call TLOU2 story a bad dream in a Joel DLC real quick.
Shitty idea, would be cringy writing. I think ND is better off writing stories that are authentic and meaningful like TLOU2’s rather than to cater to fan fantasies that would water down all meaningfulness in favor of coolbadassyessir moments.
@@Void-by3ti so ND is very good at writing to feel a total disconnection in the story, I prefer to play any game that doesn't make me feel that.
I started to like Ellie and Dina less more bc of this scene and Ellie not killing Abby
I don't like dina
Man, I CAN'T WAIT to see the story of TLOU Pt. 3!
I wonder what Dina & Tommy feel like now.
And I wanna see the characters older.
The baby should be like 6 or 7 if they do a 5-ish year time skip.
Dina & Ellie should be pushin almost 30 at that point, right?
Cuz aren't they 24 in this scene?
Idk, I can't remember their ages rn, sorry. 😅
The first trailer for TLOU pt. III is gonna go CRAZY!!
ellie and dina are 19/20, they’d be 24/25 years old
@candlecove7590
I thought they were 18/19 in Seattle.
I thought like 4-5 years passed after TLOU1.
I was mistaken then.